Nintendo's Palworld Lawsuit Could DESTROY The Games Industry... 

don't we already have a precedent? "The US Copyright Office specifically states that “Copyright does not protect the idea for a game, its name or title, or the method or methods for playing it. Nor does copyright protect any idea, system, method, device, or trademark material involved in developing, merchandising, or playing a game.” because of that disaster with what was it ... ridge racer? where they threatened to sue anyone else that tried to compensate overly excessive load times by playing minigames on the loading screen. which then exploded in their face because it was said once and for all you can't copyright game concepts and mechanics.

@@Fylasfrommabi These are patents we're talking about. These are also Japanese companies so different legal system. So really don't know how this will play out.

Nintendo going lose this lawsuit

@@LegacyKillaHD yeah. the hwole idea of going "hey we sued those guys in china sucesfully so now lets use that as a argument in japan" as lawsuit ammo is super wild to me, I can't wait to see how this turns out. honestly would not mind them getting the book thrown at em. nintendo has been far too uptight for way too long.

​@@Fylasfrommabiabsolutely. Nintendo has ruined it's image in my eyes, it remains a stale concept with more letdowns than Pokemon in their roster, not to mention that the game panders to anyone under 12 and fails to sell to the people who literally funded their brand all those years ago. With leadership attacking those who try to put a fresh spin on the monster catching and battling concept, they're effectively making it so their brand stays stale and discouraging change.

That's been the goal the whole time.

minigames in loading screens patent expire 2015 it's just that the load times are too short to make any useful during it

MGS V has that sort of mechanic. Lots do in fact. Patenting things like that would limit what smaller devs can create, and might kill indie games. Imagine if Ubisoft patented using "towers" to reveal things in an open world.

@@Azguella yeah, so we couldn't have them for the ENTIRE ERA OF GAMING WHERE THERE WERE ACTUAL LOADING SCREENS. Now that they aren't useful anymore, we can use them just fine! It's totally reasonable!

@@Azguella A lot of online games have noticeable and unpredictable loading screens. Its weird that these always get ignored. Dota, League, Siege, stuff like that.

Started playing a bit Enlisted is pretty cool, wish they didn't slip in a bit of P2W aspects... But it doesn't seem to hurt the gameplay.

Sadly you can and its been upheld in court, japan is even stricter if one part of that code even looks like pokemons systen yes this is going to court. As for winning nintendo is known to have a blankbudget concering these things as they like to win.

Intellectual “property” is stupid as hell.

Sonic's spin dash, Crash's aku-aku mask, Pac-man'a power pellets. Now does it now make sense?

@@Trex10100 No.

This is the same company that tried to claim that Ekans is a copyrightable design Its a fucking snake

Pokemon is just Shin Megumi Tensei with Dragon Quest monsters.

@@bencegergohocz5988 I still need to try that series

The nintendrones are the cause of the problems too.

@@chernobyl169 The nintendrones are the cause of the problems too, sadly.

Or that they simply reflect reality as it is and has been.

From what i heard, the patent is on the throwing a ball part, not catching itself. Though since they took the using ball idea from 60's Ultraman series I hope it does not stand up. That or something that prepares it like ghost busters sues for the who throwing a capture tool idea. My opinion is there should not be anything substantial enough there, as nothing was terribly innovative, but apple managed to copyright round corners when everything had round corners for years before rue iPhone so I have little trust in the system.

@@sjmcc13 The only way that would occur is if the patent gets shut down. If it were an American patent then it would be a different story (Since the American aircraft industry was saved by shutting down of the abusive patent the Wright Brothers had.) Sadly, this is a Japanese patent (Nintendo) and they are filing this lawsuit against a Japanese company (Pocketpair.) So, I highly doubt that this will go all that well for Pocketpair but I will wait with bated breath to see the outcome.

I mean wait and see what the patent is first, it could be something valid.

@@Jdudec367 I am 99% sure it isn't valid. It's nintendo we are talking about in here, the main bully in gaming industry.

Nintendo is attempting something dangerously stupid and there is a high chance that the Japanese courts will not tolerate it.

Nearly destroyed the aircraft industry because the Wright Brothers were greedy POS. This is why there needs to be oversight for patents so that people can't intentionally stifle the innovation of a industry.

The patent cancer culture needs to stop. It’s being abused so badly.

Agreed.

@@GeraltofRivia22 can’t even post without it getting auto deleted by RU-vid, great

Ark with Digimon*

Funny that the image used in one of Nintendo's recent parents has dinosaurs on it.

No it's duel monsters!

​@@danyul2571😂😂😂

I forgot that game

Genshin impact *should* have been taken down, just because it's a cringe anime game with waifus

Nintendo NOT react Hoyo copied game too aggressive despite Japan sucessful then China overthrow Cash flow

Zelda and Genshin are totally different games, with one being completed big single player experience and the other made for gambling addict children that are overly attracted to anime characters which, on top of that, went through Chinese government censorship. Bad example.

@@LinkRammer sounds like someone is mad anime games are popular

​@@250914616672152Anime hate is getting cringe af. These guys thought they were funny 10 years ago hating anything anime related.

Reminds of when either Pepsi Co or CocaCola (whichever one owns Monster Energy drinks) tried suing everyone for just using the word "monster" in any title Edit for spelling

@@porakiyadraekojin3390 HAHA remember when Sky news wanted to sue No mans sky cuz they have a literal trademark on the word Sky? look up how many times they actually did get their way

@kilowhiskyforge4337 I do sorta remember that, and I'll be sure to look it up lol. This also reminds of something I heardblong ago. There used to be a trademark on Popsicle, bur the name became so associated with "frozen fruit juice on a stick" in the public mind that a court actually ruled that it couldn't be enforceable

By that logic Atlus should sue Nintendo for ripping off Megami Tensei (it's several years older than Pokémon)

@@porakiyadraekojin3390 Or when the Candy Crush people tried going after anyone using "Saga" in their titles, or The Fine Bros trying to go after other reaction content.

Don't patents apply retroactively to?

@@Pyxis10 Not if the idea the patent was used BEFORE it was filed.

Palworld's "Aim and throw throwable item to capture monster" mechanic was something that Pocketpair also already had developed and released by 2020 in the form of Craftopia. The patent that Nintendo has for Pokemon Legends Arceus for that same mechanic (though the patent itself that Nintendo has was way more vague than the concept I stated above for Palworld, since it stated any projectile that affected a field character or called a field character, way too vague since this would include grenades and airstrikes) was filed in Japan in 2021, it only went through in the USA in Sept 2024. They shouldn't be able to win this lawsuit if it goes as fairly as it should.

@@cirnotheicefairy3609 I haven't read it yet but is it just for the mechanics of Legends Arceus? and not any other Pokemon Game?

@@tallyikroe2476 Yeah, its specifically a PLA patent, because Pokemon Legends Arceus was the first 3d Pokemon Game to feature aiming to catch with pokeballs.

"Bottom-line and ONLY that..." 🤑 Investing time and resources costs MONEY. And we can't have that in any way, shape, or form, can we? Except when bonus time comes around.

I think the last new IP they tried was Arms. Failed. The only newer IP they've had any success with is Splatoon, and it's over 9 years old now. They don't try anything new, and when they do it's gimmicky.

@@whichDude I don't think you even played any of their newer games if you really think they don't try anything new at all , it isn't just gimmicky like...what is gimmicky about a 3D Kirby game?

'kirby but 3d?'

@@jeremiahjohnson2784 yeah

That sounds really unrealistic.

@@CarloNassar Sounds unrealistic yet is true, lel

@@LaZd- It's not true if the only sources are RU-vid comments.

@@CarloNassar Yeah sure Nintendo didn't do anything until the game came out and the success is massive.

@@CarloNassarAnd twitter And Facebook And Instagram And other forms of social media yeah ok 😂 It’s very very true just say you don’t see on your timelines dude cause some of us do

They don’t care about ideas they just envy a small studio just because its getting more money than Pokémon on switch

Because tbey don't have to make good games at that point. Nindendrones will swallow anything their gods shit out, and still ask for more

@@jacplac97 Yep, Breath of the Wild was rubbish. I grew up on Link and BOTW was hot garbage the world lapped up. It was ordinary not innovative. The only way BOTW was innovative to anyone was if you were a shill, a fanboi or hadn't played many video games before. God, it was awful/ordinary.

@@LifenowafterOH i grew up on Zelda as well & BotW was amazing & still is a great open world game. Da heck are you talking about? It may not have had as many dungeons or items beyond weapons & armor like in other Zelda games but it was still an amazing game in its own right.

@@LifenowafterOH .

Optimistic but unfortunately it can. The dialogue wheel, nemesis system, loop loops, dual reality, etc are some mechanics that have already been patented in the US and Japan. There are also some games where features had to be removed due to the patents being enforced in a few other countries, although it is very rare

the only thing they could be going for is the capture system since they JUST got the patent for that approved last month, but even then there is no way they can sue a game for infringing on a patent that DIDNT EXIST prior to its release/development...

@@n3xus236have any of these been tested in court outside of Japan?

@@n3xus236 I wish there could be a "coding solution" loophole that could win just like with mechanics as long as your blueprint doesn't look the same but the effect is you are golden.

@@svenjorgensen5 Most end in cease and desist, while some have been tried already. Funny as it is, Activision actually owed 23 million in two separate patent lawsuits and the crazy taxi lawsuit which was in the US. They can sue all they want but it's the implementation not idea, unless it's specific a court will throw the case

Kind of like a time-limited exclusivity feature type of deal? That sounds reasonable enough, yea.

So you want people to rip off your property? Think about whats exclusive to certain games. Sonic has spin dash. Pac-man has power pellets, crash has aku-aku mask, Mortal Kombat has fatailities, ect.

@@Trex10100 Ok, but the simple act of throwing an object into a field for the express purpose of having an affect/effect of some kind, on a target in some manner? By that logic, Nintendo could sue every game that has grenades. Besides, if one game can do one of these patented game mechanics better than the original, then they deserve it more anyway.

@@swigmcale7555 the point of you throwing the object is to capture the monster. Thats the effect they have a patent on.

@@Trex10100 Yeah, but Pokemon has lost a lot of its luster. Palworld has a unique charm to it, and if Pokémon could have their cake and eat it too, they would love nothing more than to take Palworld out behind the shed and feed it two shells of 00 buck. I want Palworld to live.

"So many good games"? All those reskins from decade old games? And IF they try something "new", it still is generations beyond the rest of the gaming world. I tend to disagree here.

@@babaecalus idk, i dont play their games but it's not as though i've heard them add NFT's or big black trans dudes in their games unlike other companies nowadays. Which means their games are leagues better than those games alrdy.

@@madmantheepic7278 They just made the Pokemon Go characters intentional ugly with the body form of a potato and basically no difference between male and female, so players can create a character they can identify better with. And still, their main cashcow Pokemon is a reskin for 25 years now. Is that really leagues better? Or you just wanna hate on wOkEnEsS, hm? Try to stay on the topic. And thats not it., so nobody cares.

​@@babaecalus I mean look at all their other 1st party games, they're are all pretty great games. I think pokemon is definitely the outlier when it comes to quality which is odd if you ask me.

​@@leedlebob2667 I guess that falls under subjective matter. Still, their technology is basically generations behind compared to all other platforms. And the problem is in my opinion, Nintendo is a backwards company who rather hold everyone else back to not put too much effort into anything, instead of learning from competitors and getting better themselves. Competition is absolutely healthy for the market and innovation in general. Seemingly not if you ask Nintendo.

There was an analysis of various models when the game first came out and it was obvious they copied many Pokemon models and tacked on some features to try and hide it.

But they are not suing for that.

@@aaronhumphrey3514 Stop it, this argument is old and debunked. If you want to sit here and say that they look the same, and that's the reason they should get sued, then the creators for Dragon Quest should sue Nintendo for copying every single monster from that game.

@@aaronhumphrey3514 I saw those comparisons & they were all bogus skepticism. The polygon counts in each Pal model vs Poke models were completely different. The base skeletons aren't even the same. Them 'looking alike' is just because of fan service. They wanted to draw in people who grew up with & still played pokemon, & it worked.

@@aaronhumphrey3514 That "analysis" was using modified pokemon models and even with the modifications the models didn't line up in their own evidence.

that's true too.

Source?

@The_Squatch_97 Bro look at any of the Digimon episodes and Pokemon episodes And if that doesn't convinced you look at the games it's written all over it my guy

​@@The_Squatch_97because they had it years before pokemon.

Digimon has the Mega-level as the highest Digivolution stage. Pokémon's Mega Evolution is just a temporary power boost. Totally different things. Digimon doesn't have "Mega Evolution." Just Mega-level Digimon. Would you say something is ripping off Digimon if they say "Ultimate Evolution?" Or "Champion Evolution?" Rookie, In-Training, Fresh? They are all Digivolution stages. Sure, the high level Digimon often revert to their Rookie forms, but that doesn't mean Mega Pokémon reverting back to normal is a ripoff.

This is about patents of game mechanics though...

I guess people keep forgetting about the Nemesis System patents?

Nintendo are being crybabies

@@jerkusclownstar I think the correct term is ridiculous scumbags.

It's Japan's laws on this stuff. They're much stricter than ours are.

​@@Pyxis10 Japan Was Fascist In World_War_2 So It's Not Suprising.

I think its just the fact that you throw a ball of some description and capture monsters. they think they own that.

@@freeasabird30 Which is funny because ARK Survival Evolved uses a similar mechanic. You tame the animals than catch them in a cryopod. They're reaching and it shows.

@@LaZd- No, actually, for patents you actually have to patent a very specific mechanic. If the specific mechanic is virtually identical in execution, that's a patent infringement. In this case, if the patent is "throwing a ball to catch a creature", it not only has to be "throwing a ball", but basically the exact same execution of the mechanic as well. IIRC, weren't people comparing the way this works to Pokemon Legends: Arceus when the game came out? Its not as simple as "any mechanic where you capture a creature and use them in combat." That's too broad. It has to be far more specific than that.

@@JaidynReiman so they should change it to a cube

I think it's more about the three shakes the palsphere makes when a capture is in progress, which is pretty much 1:1, tbf.

Notice how Nintendo waited until Palworld's popularity died down and until they aren't being productive with new game content to hit them with the lawsuit?

@@dra6o0n It is typical to wait until the profits are maximized so that your lawsuit can get as much as possible. If you file early, it will derail both of the parties involved.

@@dra6o0n that's not why. They wanted to see how their lawsuit against the Chinese company was going to pan out.

@@dra6o0nNintendo legal team got ammo to pull more lawsuits in this coming holiday

​@@dra6o0nyes and tbh I wondered why Nintendo waited for them to become rich first so that they can afford to protect themselves? Maybe Nintendo also wants some of that money.

Tem tem, cassette beasts, and others come to mind too. Beast catching and taming games are all over the place now. Most closer to Pokemon in mechanics than Palworld too I feel.

It's called patent trolling. It's pretty common these days sadly. It does nothing but make Nintendo look petty, and all Pocketpair has to do is point to the many examples of the same game type (even before the patent was made) and get the other devs involved. Square, Bandai, and many others would absolutely get it tossed as a frivolous suit. The fact lawsuits like this have been raised against nintendo too should tell how easy that would be.

@@ClaimSuit According to some searches that others did they tried to patent the use of a ball to capture monsters in 3d space. In 2022. Pocketpair had that mechanic in their prior game craftopia.

Zanzarah the Hidden Portal also joins the party. Who doesn't love capturing faeries with metallic spheres?

Megami Tensei was released in 1987, while Red and Blue in 1996. Atlus clearly was earlier for almost a decade. If counting from reboot, still first Shin Megami Tensei was in 1992.

Ooh that's a good point. Forgot about Craftopia

They did have the patent published around 2021, Palworld first trailer was 2022. Then again, Pocketpair also made a BOTW clone yet they didn't go after it, you know why? Because that game didn't get the same success as Palworld did. On top of this, Pocketpair also announced Palworld Entertainment, just like how Pokemon company came to be after Pokemon's success. Palworld is not just a competition in the game scene but also in animation media and merch. And they partnered with Aniplex and Sony Music Group of all entities, it's a serious expansion.

tbh I didn't know those 2 were made by the same developers

Similar to Disney.

Palpatine, Ganon (probably): Ironic.

Japanese have an oddly weird culture about these things it seems. I'm always baffled by how poorly they handle situations where people clearly just love their games. Their reaction is usually always aggressive and a total shutdown of the other party.

@@Mazenathis reminds me of how capcom got upset at mods and called all mods cheats. Even though mods just add more content and allow people to enjoy their games even more

Capcom just wanted to sell micro-transactions, but mods already do the same thing better and for free. That was a move made entirely out of greed.

Ha. Well you won't have to support anything since the patent killed any chance of something being made.

@@Techigai Besides the patent holder genius 😅😅. The upcoming Wonder Woman game will use the Nemesis system.

Ah well there is that I guess. WB games aren't on my radar and they downsized their games section. Not sure they'll have anything after current projects.

@@Techigai Of course they'll make another game 😂😂. Its WB, not some indie dev. But that's not the point. The point is that the Nemesis system would be amazing in other games and settings and game mechanics shouldn't be patented in the first place. Nintendo had nothing else and this lawsuit didn't exist until PocketPair stated they were seeking a mutual partnership with Sony and Microsoft.

PIRATE!!!!!!!!! aye I'll join you arghhhhh

Wrong the first FPS was haunted house on atari 2600

@@chickenwings6172Haunted House was top down. There were a handful of first person games in the early 80s on various platforms. Battlezone was released in 1980 in arcades and was first person, for example, but there were games released even before that, just less well known.

Actually doom is the first fps

Platformers clearly are just Mario Rips, how dare people make a game better than Mario

@@mrgameandwatch52na45 actually its wolfenstein 3d lol which was released in 1992 one year before doom

Kids these days don't know about Digimon. This fight has already been fought and won.

Arc is made by an American company so Nintendo is not going to risk a lawsuit.

Bad example. Palworld simply use Pokemon characters in they game. - "No they not! Compare +300 Pokemons to Palworld pets!" Dude, really... If you see 3 second video either pokemon or palworld, you can't tell deifference.

...That's not how you tame in Ark. Cryopod is just a convenient way of storage/moving dinos. Edit: Not that I agree with Nintendo here.

And Craftopia also used the capture-balls and its been out a few years, it was the previous game that the creators of Palworld had going...

Add SMT to the list as well since it came out well before pokemon did.

Capsule Kaiju from Ultraman looking at Pokemon: Remember how Pokemon was originally going to be called capsule monsters?

Add Shin Megami Tensei as that's what's the actual gameplay is based on.

Didn't the early Pokemon try to sue Dragon Quest sometime in the 90s and lose, or was this just an urban legend?

how about temtem? 3 more new monster collecting game coming in steam i wishlist

Well Warner Brother Patented Enemies Remembering who you are after you last fought them

The bright side is that patents have to be very specific to be filed and to violate one you have to infringe on all the terms of it. So companies can't actually do that in a literal sense because you can't actually patent the idea behind a mechanic but it's execution.

@@PaulonTheBrave Is that how it works in japan?

Recovering souls after death....lol

@@Gamebuster tbh at this point something should make a law that forces Nintendo to ease up on their laws infringing on other companies

Nintendo be like, "If anyone is gonna make money from playing with balls its gonna be us".

if thats actually what they are arguing then people who use orcahedrons

I'd laugh in Violation and Saints row

"stop attacking the multibillion dollar companyyyyy"

Don't go giving Rockstar any patent ideas...

Imagine FromSoftware suing other games for recovering souls after death.....Lol.

I 100% agree with you on software patents, but I have to disagree with using "evil" in this context. This isn't terrorism.

@@CarloNassar Idk I bet "software patents are terrorism" would make a pretty good ted talk and/or clickbaity video essay.

@@delphicdescant When I said 'terrorism,' I meant literal physical contact, like if people who work at Nintendo started killing innocent people. That would be "plain evil" like you said. But this is a patent infringement lawsuit. Corporate and stupid, yes, but not evil.

It is clearly that last sentence. They're just trying to crush them. Nintendo isn't even logical about this... they try to stop people from playing 30 year old games that they no longer sell (emulation). They are their own worst PR.

I genuinely don't understand why so many people still support Nintendo, and yet, time after time Nintendo has shown how much they hate their fans.

@@YokaiMario Fanboys keep saying Nintendo is the last "good" one but have their foot in their mouth whenever a new lawsuit is brought up. Nintendo is basically the Toho of gaming.

​@@YokaiMario Because Nintendo make good game, that the only thing matter for a game company.

@@alywafa3697 and yet when Nintendo have terrible business practices and treats their core fandom like garbage, they get a free pass????

@@YokaiMario what core fans? They target audience are children. Nintendo so aggressivelly protect they IP because they want be see as family friendly company for parents.

Except Nintendo would open themselves to the same lawsuit, because Shin Megami Tensei came before Pokemon, and has capture mechanics. Nintendo trying to patent something they didn't create is gonna hopefully open a big can o' worms

i think digimon was first than pokemon

Digimon and smt was came first for monsters collection, do your homework

​@@porakiyadraekojin3390Furthermore, Linda Cube, AKA Linda³ for the PC-Engine also came out before Pokémon and is all about going out and capturing all sorts of weird and wacky monsters.

@@porakiyadraekojin3390 I'm not supporting Nintendo if that's what you're implying

Technically, patents don't mean no one else can use them, just that someone owns the rights, meaning a person can acquire a license to use the patent.

They even gotten woke, but it's subtle since they don't wanna attract a backlash in Japan itself.

@@dra6o0n only brainrotted children use words like woke, and get scared by it

@@dra6o0nwhat is woke about nintendo or pokemon? I'm lost on that

The western world is just delusional and doesn't realize that most Japanese games are stuck in early Playstation 3 era visually and look like Ys X at best. Just look at Gundam Breaker 4, one of the biggest Japanese games of recent months. Japanese companies always try to play safe and go the route they've always taken, so anything ever barely improves. So no, it's not just pokemon or Nintendo. It's just that you are more exposed to news about Nintendo more over there.

@@penuji7981 Using trans characters in a game or rainbow flags or colors, and such, it is VERY subtle but I can see that it's very non-Japanese culture to do those sorts of thing. Because it's subtle and vague enough, you can't prove it publicly because the public would just mock you. But this is how corporations get public acceptance over time, they blend the controversial with the norm over a decade until people think it's acceptable once they make a big enough jump. People on social media 'looks down' on groomers, but corporations are the biggest existence of them and no one really care enough to point that out. Consumers are 'groomed' into a ideal subject for them to exploit.

You do know this has been a thing right? The Nemesis System from the Shadows of Mordor games have been patented for a while.

@@nahte123456 Which was a major loss for gaming.

@@Longshot441 no shit, why are you repeating something obvious?

Why so toxic and angry? Take a break dude.

@@noteansylvan6051 Mate had someone mess with his cheerios.

And better than pokemon.

Agreed.

The only part that it would be justified is something super specific like Sonic's Spin dash attack. That would be it. The only Patent that made sense in the past but probably wouldn't hold up today is the Patent Pac-Man Got way back in the day because some idiot tried to copy them

thats what i was thinking, this is like George Lucas sueing any movie thats ever used a gun that shoots laser

Nintendo is pissed they never made a Pokemon survival game before Palworld came out

@@christopheryoung2874 I think its more that Nintendo is pissed that they had to make an open world game because of how clearly behind the ball they are compared to other games. They're probably thanking their lucky stars that Tem Tem didn't take off as well as it could have lest Nintendo be forced to make a proper mmo.

Nah, according to another comment, Sony Microsoft and another company were going to start pushing Palworld products to directly compete with Pokemons main cash cow. Can't have competition.

BINGO!!! 👍👍👍👍 Free money for Nintendo.

but they wont get any of that money, nintendo and TPC are just being assholes, palworld proved people want pokemons with guns, and remember palworld was a succes meanwhile pokemon scarlet&purple was a quality flop so bad nintendo had to step in

​​@@250914616672152 Yeah, I hope they lose, and I haven't even played Palworld lol. I might check it out pretty soon because of this.

​@@250914616672152 I hope Nintendo loses and I haven't even tried Palworld out yet. I'm going to check it out pretty soon because of this.

I hope Nintendo loses, and I haven't even played Palworld yet. I'm going to have to buy it soon because of this situation.

Every time I get interested in a Nintendo exclusive, I get a sharp reminder of this reality

You liked them? Why? You liked their games, not them, right? Not the same. I love Metroid, but hate Nintendo.

@@AppleInk I think they meant well in the beginning, you know Nintendo polish and all that. But now the polishing has become a threat lol. They look at their customers now as ink blotches on their perfect paper. What once was a sign of quality that every gamer could appreciate, a symbol on the box that it was going to be good. Now though, it just means if you do anything with that game other than play it, the Nintendo man will get ya! This is just my opinion but the shovel ware slide and the tarnish on that seal started around n64 and it’s just gotten progressively worse.

@@fieroboy11 Nah, you are right. Personally, I stopped liking after Iwata left us. Everything went to the dumpster after that.

What’s sad, is that the other console corporations are even worse

This isn't about the characters but about the game mechanics. That being said, being TOO CLOSE to existing designs absolutely is something you can win a lawsuit over, but its not a guarantee to pull it off.

Why wait for that to happen? Stop giving them money for lawfare.

@@19CD91 Reasonable.

Boycotts should punish the attempt, not getting away with it. If a company has the gall to try something like this, that's the time to boycott, regardless of whether they succeed.

Your still supporting them now by purchasing their products and you'll only stop IF they win the lawsuit? So they show you the absolute horrible POS company they are by suing yet another, not their first but another small indie dev out of selfishness and greed trying to patent and sue for their monster catching thing. But you'll only stop supporting if they win but not for suing in the first place? They already played their hand, they show they want everything and are taking the palworld devs to court saying they want to do this, even if they lose you'll still support them just for losing. So if someone tries to do something insanely horrible like nintendo they get your money still because their plan failed. This is the most important lawsuit the palwold has to win or the entire game industry is screwed like this video says. But of course you'll let it slide if nintendo loses anyway...Stop supporting bad companies that try to patent game mechanics and are doing stuff like nintendo does. Your just feeding their wallets and their ego even more to sue with. If they lose to palworld they'll just go after someone else to take millions from them. They are doing a bad thing, punish them for it by not supporting them anymore. Its like saying "I can't stop the person with a weapon because he hasn't actually killed the person, only wounded them that's attempted murder, I will only do something once its actually murder"

Tough for you

"If they win"? You should be boycotting _now,_ because if they have the gall to try it in the first place they're already morally objectionable.

@@LepidoliteMica True, though I guess there is scope to learn. Even if its practically being forced to right. But you are right.

They can't really take Dragon Quest down, because Dragon Quedt came first, and a lot of Gen 1 pokemon designs are based on Dragon Quest monsters

Dragon quest came first and pokemon stole the designs of dragon quest monsters... So how would that work lolol

Shin Megami Tensei

Same case here. I love Pokemon, but Nintendo's corporate antics are getting out of hand. They should lose this lawsuit and take this as a lesson to not go as far into exploiting stuff legally.

Name one Company who isnt ! Im waiting

​​@@jackplisken4738dumb logic, so your saying because other company's do it, it's fine if Nintendo does it. That's called a whataboutism and if that's your whole argument, it's a dumb argument.

@@chaosacsend9653 Dumb logic even if thats not the case. If you wanna call someone or something a name, deliver a reason why someone should believe you. You got the burden of proof. Dont do this 'show me one who isnt' crap. Thats not how arguments work. Could go and randomly name one: Alkimia interactive. what now?

For real, ok let's point at some of the stuff Sony and Microsoft have done in their gaming spheres this year. Wow, it doesn't change that Nintendo is doing and has done crappy things.....

That's how Kirby was born however from the Lawyer named Kirby who won that case.

WB started this bs by patenting the nemesis system

While I agree to be scared that will never happen. Other large game companies wouldn't allow that to exist. Nintendo might be one of the if not the biggest game company, but they are not the biggest company. They won't win that type of legal battle.

@@mariustan9275 doesn't have to be them, if they start winning patent trolling like this, its only a matter of time before a megacorp decides to go that route and absorb big game corpos to do just that, to make sure that all game development can only happen under their banner.

@@cirnotheicefairy3609 Still, a lot of corporations are in the US. As long as they are, anti-trust laws keep them in check. I don't know about Japanese laws though.

@@mariustan9275 why do you think they keep pushing for de-regulation in the US through legal bribery aka Lobbying?

Shin Megami Tensei

Dirty as Nintendo is and has been. Fuck them!

They did have it around 2021, Palworld first trailer was 2022. Then again, Pocketpair also made a BOTW clone yet they didn't go after it, you know why? Because that game didn't get the same success as Palworld did. On top of this, Pocketpair also announced Palworld Entertainment, just like how Pokemon company came to be after Pokemon's success. Palworld is not just a competition in the game scene but also in animation media and merch. And they partnered with Aniplex and Sony Music Group of all entities, it's a serious expansion.

@@D3adCl0wn nah. The patents referred to in the lawsuit are from 2024.

More like it took this long for the lawers to figure out how to attack palworld

more than likely they were also using the time to build up their case, since they couldn't just send a cease & desist letter like they normally do.

@@Crazy_Gamer_OG Building a case? More like searching for something to actually sue for because they had nothing. This is further warranted by the fact they are not suing for copyright.

I hope Palworld capitalises on that lol

They waited until palworld started to set things up with Sony

Warner Bro's is not a Japanese Company. they're probably one of the most well known American Companies out there inside the animation industry

I have bad news

@@cptncutleg I said deserves. Not that they will. And I have bad news for you. You are old and still on stuff like this.

@@DragonFruitXVI I meant that a patent DOES mean you own the idea on how something is done. I agree that Nintendo deserves to lose. I know I'm old and bitter, but gaming is my one relief, and I'm sick of corporate BS getting in the way of fun games.

@@cptncutleg No it doesn't. A court can invalidate or otherwise ignore a patent if it deems that it pertains to something which can't actually be patented, and yes this does happen.

@@ratdoto2148 "A court can invalidate" Yes, if they invalidate it, the patent holder is not a patent holder and doesn't own the idea on how something is done. Having the patent means they DO own it. You literally destroyed your own argument. Invalidating the patent means they don't own it after it has been invalidated. But until it has been invalidated, they absolutely DO own it.

No, if a game has strong sales, Nintendo gets the government to rob them.

Agreed.

Wait until Disney buys Nintendo.

@@candyneige6609 right now, with Disney's current state? Nintendo will do how they did to Microsoft when they mentioned to buy Nintendo... laugh in their faces.

@@solitaregames It almost really happened in 2015.

@@candyneige6609 Same reply as before.

@@solitaregames It could really happen next time.

you act like this is the first time they did something this stupid

They did go after Digimon, 30 years ago. I think they also lost.

Not to mention Beyblade, Bakugan, Dragon Quest, any Atlus game that include their demon party members, and many more in the other replies