Me too. So addictive. I’ve beaten the depths but still experimenting with different builds. And every weapon has tonnes of individual ways you can use it and play differently from the next player. Such a deep game.
Nioh 2 is just incredible. I really, REALLY want to like Wo Long because I love the three kingdoms, but the lackluster combat simply made it impossible for me to do so.
@@LasttoLoad can you tell already if wo long will get the same treatment after all the dlcs and patches as nioh 2 and become something that highly regarded or at least be of that essence (sorry if my question is lackluster)
Wo Long need only deflect skill to win, but in Nioh you must be a pro to win a stage because almost boss are hard, high hp and high defense, lot of moveset 😢 Nioh 2 is harder than Wo Long 😢
I went into Wo Long with the same character i did in Nioh 2. Mezuki's aggressiveness makes me think he hasn't forgotten how I killed him in thag game...
Great job man! The excellence of Nioh 2 does not need to be reiterated. On the other hand, Wolong has gradually become more interesting in recent updates. I look forward to what it will look like after DLC3.
This is why i love Wo Long more, its as deep but less complex thanks to a reliable and satisfying parry mechanic that allows you to choose between rushing down opponents with attacks or take a strategic approach and intertwin you aggression with perfect parries. Unlike Nioh where it's mainly about overwhelming with abilities and learning a few enemy moves to get some openings to bombard them
while I'm enjoying Wo Long I need to say this video shows why Nioh is still best for many of us, the amount of techniques both defensive and offensive and the freedom how to use them is what makes Nioh great. I hope the next Nioh or Wo Long style game by Team Ninja takes Nioh as the core design and adds some of the cool things of Wo Long to that formula instead of going for simplification.
When I was replaying Nioh for this footage, the intricacies of the gameplay combat brings me back with the amount of freedom and complexity it has. That sheer level of mastery is something that I enjoyed practicing while learning new things to experiment. I would say that Wo Long is easier to enjoy with lesser requirement of mastery, accessible difficulty and smooth animations, but it doesnt hit the same due to its simplicity (especially in movesets). Long Sword managed to have a fair balance with its movesets, and I would love to see that same treatment with other weapons.
Yeah, I was talking with some people about Wo Long and they kept saying it wasn't that different from Nioh 2. It's one of those things that, until you go back and try it again and you remember all the little things, you don't realize just how different they are. Wo Long is more an extension of the Strangers of Paradise systems than it is the ones from Nioh.
I think it's because you have to internalize so many things in Nioh so you don't actually think about them, they are just reflex. And that makes it easier to forget about them til you go back.
I remembered that Mezuki is immuned to wood/water/metal elements in Wo Long (only way to apply is to have an element resistance penetration from a weapon stat). Please do not replicate what I did 🤦
i should also leave a mean comment so.... hmm.... despite all your combat creativity you still have no fashion sense nor character making skills, you should take some lessons from xMizu
Amazing Showcase for both Mezuki Variants! I love both games, currently i play WO Long to be honest Mezuki is great in both games! I loved to fight against him in different playstyle and settings. The only thing i really miss is the Music from Mezuki in Wo Long. Nicely fought in both games it was a pleasure to see!
Amazing Nioh play! You made quite an effort to make the Wo Long play cool too! And the sad thing is I know the Wo Long battle would be even easier if a player just stuck to spirit attacks into fatal blows. You had to go out of your way to showcase Wo Long moves whereas Nioh moves are almost required.
the difference is that nioh requires more mastery in controls, to this day I can't change between stances at the same speed as the Asians and he can lol, but wo long's combat despite being simpler has improved with these latest updates, It's still a good game but Nioh is a masterpiece.
@@douglascelestino6597 Yup, but there are two problems. 1.) that it took this long for Wo Long to become passable since launch when it was bad and marketed as from the people who made nioh when that was not true. This is the director's first game ever and it shows. I don't think people generally consider the game to be decent until DLC2 happened. The problem with Wo Long remains that what it added is not necessary. It was never balanced right. Martial arts and spells are significantly inferior to the normal style which is: normal square attacks to build spirit meter. Then spirit attack to bring down the enemy gauge for fatal blows. That way is safer, stronger, and faster to play then trying to incorporate the bells and whistles. However, Nioh gets so tough or makes things so interesting that you want to use skills and spells and they are mostly effective. Most martial arts and spells in wo long were not effective. You said nothing wrong, I just wanted to add more context for other potential readers. I also personally don't forgive a game when that it may eventually become good. I was sold at launch. I played it at launch "like a good fan" and I was sucker punched for it. My experience was how awful it was then as was most people's as launch is when the loyalty and buying and player count is highest. I'm not obligated to return because it got improved numerous months later. It should have been much less terrible at launch and it still carries the stink of worse gameplay. They never addressed the core issues even as performance gradually increased.
To be fair, you can also play Nioh without changing stances, without doing many combos, just playing locked in a single stance and using a single skill, in fact this is the gameplay used by most players, where they focus more on build power than improving its use in combat mechanics. wo long: martial arts are now more useful, consume less spirit and cause more spirit damage, basic attacks are still effective but martial arts are now better, and weapons such as spear, staff, glaives can cause an effect called breaking of armor that when caught on the enemy will cause them to be stunned, enabling combos. Now there are 6 martial arts per weapon and 8 spells to use, and you can use everything during a sequence of combos.
@@ninjasouls743You can play Nioh super basic, but it's generally less effective than using everything the game lets you use. This video servers as a great example, he completely shut down Mezuki for 15-20 seconds with careful control of Confusion that wouldn't really be possible to this extent without making use of Jutsus, GS, Cores, and Arcana (which in turn basically requires using multiple stances to access the skills you put them on + ki management). It requires a bunch of execution and planning but the game rewards it by letting you kill enemies faster and more safely (on top of looking cool). In Wo Long, spirit attacks into fatal blows just generally feels much safer and just as, if not more rewarding, than going out of your way to use your full kit. This showcase made me reconsider MAs a bit (working them around the glaive armor crush is pretty cool), but in my opinion the game still does a pretty poor job of actually rewarding you for going out of your way to use all the mechanics they finally made viable in recent patches.
@@Snug_maBut the vast majority of players do not use all of Nioh's mechanics, the vast majority always resort to easier resources such as tsukuyomi, infinite familiars, laziness, omnyo magic in mastery of amulets, and ninjutsus. Of course, Nioh is much more rewarding to use all the combat mechanics, but less experienced players generally focus on what is simpler to execute, and many do not seek to evolve in the Gameplay as a whole. wo long is simple for sure but it's good, it was never sold by team ninja as a nioh 3, that was the media's fault.
was thinking that they are going to tie the nioh/doa/ NG/ universe to wolong but they only put that, hoping that they add a npc or someone related to the other games traveling to wo long zones in that age :(
I really enjoyed playing Wo Long and had never really played Nioh or Nioh 2 until fairly recently. Not until I played Nioh 2 did I realize the disappointment in Wo Long. The combat is Wo Long is pretty solid and I had fun, but Nioh 2 is just exceptional in every way. Takes some getting used to with the stance switching and Ki pulse, but the more you play, the more you can truly appreciate it's greatness.
Little late but it is so satisfying to deflect his cheap grab cause he used to spam that move in nioh 2 in my case on dotn like 5-6 times continuously and I was like stop! In Wo long I deflected that grab and it was satisfying!
Dam, you are a master on this, i loved the first nioh i haven't played the second one yet, but all this three of this games are amazing on their own, i just finished the main history on wo long i'll gonna play the dlc and the new game plus cuz there's a few things that i want to try, anyway great video 👌
Bloodborne will always be my all time favorite, that was my first From Software game but Nioh 2 i have 3x the hours played so far and only recently got into Underworld on floor 40 , love this game. i heard Wo Long is alot like Sekiro ? i just couldn't get into that game the green bar is enemy health? i felt like i was watching an ant beating up on a bull
My all time favorite TN game is for sure Nioh 2. Wo Long coming second. Wo Long honestly has improved right now compared to release. The game is very much playable and enjoyable, crashed only once during my entirety of playing. Parry system was mad good but also made the game way easier than nioh2. Hope they improve on that and make it a little more challenging if they ever make a new game.
Nice video!! Solid gameplay as per usual. On second 17 or 18, you performered a roll on low stance, how did you do that without being in high stance? Thanks
i kind of had to nerf myself a little bit to showcase most of mezuki moveset. He does get easily destroyed with current gears (at least until we get the last difficulty).
its going to be restrictive/punishing in nioh gameplay due to stamina management but, once you get the hang of the game's mechanics, combat can possibly become one of the best experience that we can get from Team Ninja.
I played wolong 3 hr and reach stage 3 😅 I think it was easier than nioh 2, in wo long you can spam skill and run without stamina, and practice deflect skill. But in nioh, it is more difficulty to attack an enemy using skills 😢
Wo long is okay ( except for parry and dodge being the same button) but nioh 2 is perfection. TN should stop saying"ow we covered all japans history so theres no 3) NOBODY plays TN game for the story. Rise of the Ronin has to be more creative than Wo Long, SOP has a great combat system its just get boring killing the same 10 enemies with them
This horseshit was cleaning the floor with me in Wo Long, the same way as in Nioh2😭. But after a lot of tries i beat this horseshit the same way in Wo Long too 🫡
Wo Long for me is just too flashy and limited at the same time, while I love both games. Its really hard to say that Wo Long is better if the Nioh 2 boss fight kicked the shit out of me, while Wo Long was just kind of there. Idk maybe due to experience but yeah.
They're brothers. Just close your eyes and pick one. There are getting to be so many of these type of games that the market will become saturated with them, and people will burn out from them, they're similar games, just pick one, or better yet, get the one that is old, but still considered newer - a la Nioh - and get it for a cheap price. I am personally waiting for BlackMyth Wukong, but they're all similar to me. I appreciate this video because I thought that Wo Long was the forgotten one of the bunch, I have both games, but I don't play them anymore. Sick of having to go all of the way back to the beginning of the area every time that you die.
@@OHikcc Its the core mechanic of stance switch to constantly switch your stance at any time given during combat, and pre-stance switch helps quite much in that regard to prepare your next move or fluxing your ki. You can look at this guide for elaborated details about stance switch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0FRPHwB7YZU.htmlsi=A3p3nKTLhOzGpXiw
I mean, the upper stance is on the upper button, the lower stance is on the lower button. The buttons are far away from each other. Such fast taping like on the video is barely possible @@LasttoLoad
@@OHikcc one tip I can give is using your whole thumb to cover your buttons (from upper to bottom). You have to create some tricks with you thumb to make these inputs possible.
Redo video with controller feed plz or there might be sending the wrong message that similar effort is being shown here 🙂. Also i saw that 5 stack scythe "parry".
Wo long was not for nioh players and ive been saying it since its release Good game just not nioh and whether you like it or not nioh pulled off way more than wo long did even the first game not to mention the difference in difficulties Niohs mad harder, yea ik its not all about that cause Wo Long has some nice visuals thats a bit better but TN shouldve stuck with the formula Then again RotRs getting ready to come out so hopefully its more of a return to what we loved
imo Wo Long has better core mechanics. Mainly because the Posture based systems in sekiro is miles better than the Dark Souls formula when it comes to making combat engaging But it lacks the variety and depth the Nioh 2 had. Improvements to to a Wo Long successor would surpass Nioh. TEAM NINJA. DO IT.
When a game as marketed as from the "makers of Nioh" comparisons are inevitable. Your argument doesn't fly. People wouldn't say that garbage that you just tried about Bloodborne and souls games.
The director for Nioh 1 and 2 (Fumihiko Yasuda) is working on Rise of the Ronin, while Stranger of Paradise and Wo Long had different directors. Hopefully Rise of the Ronin will be of similar quality to the Nioh games.
Fantastic ! It has been a long time since i last played those. I couldnt even play WoLong dlc as my computer is far under the requirements. So, i have a question : how much you are reducing your attack power ? (This fight seems to take too long)
I had to play without a grace set to nerf myself a bit (with +9 weapons, and current limit is +11). mezuki can generally be beaten faster than this if played properly.
