Nirvana Producer Breaks Down Kurt Cobain's Screams (What Made Kurt's Screams So Unique?) 

Thanks for the additional nuggets!!

100% agree...he might have the most underrated voice in rock. There is a great RU-vid video a vocal coach did on him actually breaking down why he's actually pretty incredible singer despite no training. He describe it as Kurt having a unique ability to have infinite release on his voice with no fear...he would never hit that ceiling which most singers hit. To demonstrate he was comparing Kurt's voice to Dave Grohls and Ghrol has a stiffness that Kurt doesn't. Not that Dave is a bad singer at all but it was a good demonstration to show how unique Kurt's voice was. Kurt's voice was like a chainsaw just cutting through everything like butter.

@@vlcthefish are you able to send me that link? I’d love to see that. I watched a similar one about his guitar playing and he’s a much better guitar player than people realize too. He possibly was a much better guitar player than he even realized he was. He’s all around extraordinarily underrated as a whole. He gets a lot of being a musical genius and a voice of a generation, of which is all true and he absolutely is/was, but ge doesn’t get credit for the intricate things that made his songs. The lyrics were always last for whatever reason. Personally, I love his at home tape recordings. So intimate. So vulnerable. So passionate. It was all so great and wonderful!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🎶

@@vlcthefish for whatever it’s worth, I never cared for Dave’s voice. There’s something about him I don’t like. There are songs that I like, but over all, I don’t care too much for Foo Fighters. There’s just something that doesn’t sit right with me about him though. Vocals aside. I loved him as Nirvana’s drummer during that time, but since then, not as much. Can’t say that I can pinpoint it.

@@omardcastrod Sure its this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WtKgalo3iSc.html I like Dave's voice when he's not pushing. Marigold, Big Me, or the verse for songs like Everlong. I don't like Dave's screaming because he can't push without hitting that ceiling and it sounds stiff.

I really like that observation. Dead on.

Great suggestion

THIS

I agree 100%, that's an insanely hard part to sing. I think it's the highest he ever pushed his voice.

Absolutely an insane song to sing like Kurt did. Blows my mind everytime I hear it.

It was really amazing!!

You're welcome! I agree... to have THE GUY who recorded these early B-sides IN MY STUDIO talking about KURT... MIND BLOWN!!!!!

Well said Dave Grohl... It's SO true!

One of my favorite quotes to describe Kurt's voice. I've been reading Dave Grohl's book. I really enjoyed the Nirvana portion of the book.

@@jimijames27 😂 where's this from

@@eclipse_pvp-gamez5428 Lol. Dude must have removed his post. Some guy said he hated Dave Grohl. I complimented his picture for his profile. It was Mega Man

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Kurt tackled every song like it was Twist and Shout. Crazy stuff

He just had a great voice and a great rock n roll scream. I doubt it did anything to his vocal chords. People trying to copy him may damage something but it was natural to him.

@@jeffreyval9665 I mean no disrespect to the man. I'm a big fan, actually. But no, his grit was definitely from tension and overblowing his chords. You can hear it. Especially in live settings. Listen to how much harder it was for him to sing older material in their later concerts (granted, being strung out probably didn't help either)

@@damonhinson4005 Smoking, heroin and continual screaming: it didn't help Janis Joplin's voice later in her career either

One thing I noticed about KURT in music videos is he physically had a huge larynx, look at his throat in heart shaped box video. I know it's an unusual thing to say about someone but as someone who has sang in a nirvana tribute band I always wondered how kurt could sing like that for hours every night without permanently damagingvhis vocal chords. I suspect it was genetics and the fact he was still very young and could get away with it. If he kept doing that into his late thirties I doubt ie could have kept it up but who knows..... it's all conjecture.

Kurt had complete control over his voice. In any song, his voice cracks are completely intentional.

@@Josh-ol8sy Yep, I agree.

Couldn't have said it better. I think the most important thing is that Kurt just did what felt right, and just have fun with it. I feel like you can't over-analyse and say he was the greatest singer of all time. It's more that you hear him having fun, the way you can relate to the music is what makes it so beautiful. Its just people having fun. Like so many other artist if you try to look for them your local scenes

Yes, this is why I always cringe a bit at reaction videos, however good they are.

💯 said it perfectly brother👍👍

Thank you!

I agree wholeheartedly. An amazing balance!

You're so welcome! I agree... AMAZING to get the guy who actually made the recordings!! These insights could ONLY come from him!

A good vocalist, like Kurt, can control all the rasp and cracks in their voice. It doesn’t take lung or vocal damage for that.

Not true. Had nothing to do with that. He could scream like that as an early teenager.

@@sullyvanov matter of opinion Sully. 🤗

@@garrickbisogno8809 It's not an opinion that he could scream like that as a teen before all the bronchitis and chain smoking.

@@madhatter8508 It's my opinion dude. And Im done with this conversation.

It is also about the technique so that your voice doesn’t get completely lost.

It's been noted kurt didn't have great technical knowledge of singing when recording sometimes could only get through one song before loosing his voice which he eventually did go to vocal coaching for that so yeah its expression it's just what he thought sounded good and felt good

But after a few sessions Kurt stop taking the vocal lessons right?

@@darrenbishop1614 "you the police?" - Blac Youngsta

@@unfunnydave5485 Beethoven would agree with me.

YES YES YES

And John Lennon y Dylan?

You forgot Chester Bennington 👀

It IS amazing to have Barrett here and working through stuff with me!

Couldn't agree more!

Exactly

You're very welcome! My pleasure and privilege to bring you such content! Thank you for your support and engagement so that I can keep doing it!

@@chrisliepe as long as you put out videos I’ll be watching!

Oh that’d be amazing!

That vocal slide is so good on school

PLEASE DO SCENTLESS APPRENTICE!

Glad you enjoyed it!

WTF?? Why did they remove the lighter clicks? He put them on there for a reason and since he's not around you'd think they would honor his initial idea. And don't get me started on brick walking it's the reason why I steer clear of remasters

You’re so welcome!

Oh man that would be amazing to get one of them!

It's been an amazing journey so far with lots of amazing interactions! All of you included! Here's to many more years of celebrating the voice!

The box set is a re-release. It was first released in February of 1993 as a split single with The Jesus Lizard's Puss.

The original mix is my favorite. The box set is too loud and bass heavy, it’s Andy Kasper’s fault. I have both.

There's 3 live versions on RU-vid ;) This one has différent lyrics but the sound is the best ! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-83gBEXdCwi4.html

Glad you think so!

So cool you have this ep! It’s one of my favorites as well!

@@BarrettJonesProducer I wish you guys had continued this project. I loved Bruce's vocals on this so much I became a fan of 9353 afterwards and eventually became friends with him over time thanks to the early days of the internet.

Hehe. Yes!!

I thought so too when editing this. Didn’t even notice during filming haha

You’re so welcome! It was quite the privilege!

this is such an interesting story! where do you read it if i may ask

@@kinarlaimaura9307 I actually found it in the archives. Something Amirault? Let me see if I can find it. It’s short. It may let me copy. I thought it was so cute.

@@kinarlaimaura9307 GOING FISHING As Told by Larry Smith This little slice of time in Kurt's life is an elaboration of the memory I had when my grandfather took Kurt and myself on one of his steelhead fishing trips to the Wynochee River. I first related this at the memorial at the Seattle Center. I would like to be so bold as to add to what I remember here. I had related at the memorial that Kurt had been howling and screaming and generally making a lot of noise. Gramps had told me to go upstream to find Kurt because he must have hooked into a big fish . . . and of course . . . he didn't even have his line in the water! He was just kicking back against a good-sized rock in the sunshine, practicing his screaming so, as he put it, "I can strengthen my vocal chords" . . . Well, I need to relate that, driving up the road to the Wynochee fishing spot, Kurt was really just "talking up" about how he was going to really try to catch one of those big lunkers. I mean, he was nearly bragging about how he just knew he could cast his line probably even better than Gramps. Of course, he knew damn well that Gramps had been fishing for the difficult-to-catch steelheads for probably 40-plus years. He was just smiling and "getting Gramps's goat" with his comments . . . We went down the Anderson Creek road, which is gravel, and dead-ends about 100 yards from the river. From there, you have to walk through fairly thick brush to the gravel bar. Gramps got out of the truck on his side, and Kurt and I got out on the passenger side. Gramps told Kurt to "close the truck door solid, so it would close all the way." Of course, this was a cue for Kurt to overdo it . . . he gave me that wild-eyed grin, took both hands, and just "cranked" on that door! Gramps jumped about a mile! Kurt just cracked up, and was bent over laughing at this stupid little trick! I mean, I didn't think it was so funny, but Kurt sure thought HE was funny! Gramps told Kurt and I to hold our fishing poles backward, with the tip behind us, so we could get through the brush easier, explaining that if you hold it forward, it is hard to twist and turn through the heavy stuff. Gramps led the way, I was behind him, and Kurt was behind me. No sooner had we gone about 50 feet, and Kurt was somewhere behind us, squaking and bitching. Gramps looked at me and said something like: "Chrissakes, what's he got screwed up now?" We went back there, and Kurt was just tugging like a maniac on his fishing pole, which was caught in the weeds and the braches. Gramps said something like, "Well, I thought you were going to be the BEST fisherman here today, Kurt. You know, you have to make it to the river before you can even think about catching anything!" Of course, now Kurt is a little pissed. He just looked away while Gramps cut away the absolute birds-nest of entangled nylon that Kurt had created with his impatient tugging and pulling . . . We got to the river, and Gramps pointed out to us to sort of start at the top end of the "hole" where the rapids hit the deep water, and work our way down the hole with repeated casts, so as to "sweep" the whole area where a fish might lie. But, NO, NOT KURT! He said that he was going to search upstream to the next "hole" and do it on his own. Gramps just grinned, shook his head, and said for Kurt to just go ahead and do his own thing. So, the last picture I had in my head was Kurt, stumbling up the gravel bar, fishing pole jerking around spasmodically every time he half-slipped on rocks, heading for that "big fish" . . . I am not sure, but I think that Kurt never did get his lure in the water that day. Whenever I saw him, he was just screwing off, looking at log jams, skipping rocks, and turning boulders over to look at the various creatures. I do remember thinking, "What a weirdo - came to do some fishing, bragged about his fishing ability ahead of time, then goes off to do something completely different!"

@@orielcollins414 great! Thats very generous of you

@@kinarlaimaura9307 A lot of the old sites are gone unfortunately. There are so many things that used to be available but aren’t. A few were published in Aberdeen paper. Says: Larry Smith was Cobain's uncle, and knew Kurt during his teenage years, from about 1979 to 1984. Smith was in his mid-30s and lived in and near Montesano, Washington, a town fairly close to Cobain's birthplace, Aberdeen. Smith was gracious enough to post these anecdotes about Kurt in "Heart-Shaped Mailbox," a Website dedicated to his fans. I loved this one. OLD MAN REEVES Larry Smith Here is a little glimpse of a happy side of Kurt. A measure of the kind of man he was, even when he was about 15 years old. Old Man Reeves was this kind of eccentric guy who lived on Sylvia Street in Montesano. He was a loner and kids used to really give him a bad time, and do cruel things to him. He would come out on his porch and shake his fist as his tormentors and scream profanities. We (myself included, when I was younger) just loved it. Sometimes kids would throw rocks and break his windows or pull up his flowers (myself not included, thank goodness). He was known to a couple of generations of kids as a real weird and mean guy, even though in actuality he was not. The tormenting went on through quite a few years, and a new group of kids would take over for the old. Kurt, however, changed the tradition. When he was running around with Matt Lukin (I think now of Mudhoney??), Kurt saw the usual group of guys giving Old Man Reeves a hassle. He literally screamed at these guys to leave Old Man Reeves alone. He was so emotional about it (as only Kurt could be) that he stopped these kids in their tracks. They just dropped their jaws as Kurt walked up to Mr. Reeves, put his arm around him, and led him into the house. From that point on, Kurt had tea with Old Man Reeves quite often. A simple story, but it shows Kurt's sense of humility, compassion and individuality. . . Although I was in my 30s at the time, I can tell you that he was an unbelievable kid. Absolute compassion. I miss him.

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That IS very useful feedback. It’s a balance I’m still learning to feel out with these interview/jointly filmed videos. When to position the viewer as part of the conversation and when to do as you said and embrace the dynamic of just the people in the room. Thanks for observing and commenting!

Also I can be just a bit awkward and self conscious in general 😂

@@chrisliepe ❤️🤘

Yes!!! Quite the privilege to be able to sit down with him!

Haha. The screaming I did caught him off guard a little :)

Yeah I LOL’d at that. Doubled checked to make sure it actually happened.

Right!?!?!? I’m still beside myself that this got to happen. Sooooo amazing

I agree... I need 1 million subs for sure :) Thanks for being one of them and for watching and enjoying!

I’m glad Jerry! Thanks for watching!