Nissan LEAF 62kwh Battery Swap 

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$10,000 for just the smallest battery? $17,000 for the largest battery? Does that include installation? Seems hardly worth the cost.

@@velocityacoustics Unfortunately id be in at around $3500 at the most. Chevy Bolts can be had for a bit over $10K

The problem with the Leaf is that they have no cooling system for the battery, it's just cooled by ambient air. Because of this, they can get very hot and degrade very fast. They are restricted to one DC Fast Charge per day, too.

Nailed it

Now THAT will be awesome.

How about a pricing estimate for this upgrade. What do you do w the old battery, can the customer keep it to build a powergrid w if they want? Where is your shop located, great video thank you

@@charlesball6519 that makes me wish that Chevy didn’t stop making the spark EV because I think people would be doing this with that car too

My leaf is 9 years old, same clean if you live in southeast United States

No petroleum residue to attract filth.

@@tonyperone3242 Ive seen a few oily ones they can get oily 🙄 eveything is just concealed well for aerodynamics, but yeah for the most part a gasser with 200k miles or one thats 16 years old can look unsightly underneath.. buy it still moves.

@@Mark_conoroil from the suspension?

Problem is the cost of the upgrade will be almost prohibitive that you might as well put the used value of your car and the cost of the upgrade towards purchasing a used [newer generation] EV.

There's a company in New Zealand that is started to make new Leaf battery.

They only need to make the cells the BMS and stuff would still be good.

How about US made batteries. Screw china.

I noticed that as well. Sandals in a garage. Lol

Same. Only thing more cringy than an adult male with open toed footwear is wearing them in a shop. Amazing.

We are not the first in the US to do these swaps, but we are one of only a handful of companies doing it. The car actually showed 280mi of range with the A/C turned off! Realistically though, 220-230 is pretty close to what the actual usable range should be. Glad you like the JDapter!

I done my leaf 62 kwh in hitechautomodule about a year ago, in LA. So far so good. I'm getting about 240 miles per charge. Its feel like competly different car!

Where are you guys located? Did the quick charging issue resolve its self?

@@pashko90 hey man can you tell me how much it cost I’m in la too

@@robertp9370 62 pack is about 9k$, plus about 1-1.5k$ to install it.

Excellent point

Look forward to the Evsenhanced solution which isn't available yet. 16 Blade. With active thermal management. Several RU-vid videos on their site.

No oil, no mess 🙂

Does a 2013 nissan lead take oil

How much

@@snowwhite6882 no oil changes needed

These 62kWh batteries have only been around since 2019 in the LEAF+! It was about a year and a half ago now that we did this swap, and we haven't done any 62kWh batteries since (they are VERY hard to get ahold of).

All thanks to the power of editing! In reality it takes "a bit" longer than that, but with all the parts on hand, the swap can easily be done in less than a day. EV's Enhanced in NZ actually specializes in Nissan LEAF service and repairs, including battery upgrades!

There are 2 companies in New Zealand but I don't remember there names

Because they are seeking to increase their profits more.

Manufacturers don't upfit,, recycle, or overhaul ANY vehicles, not just EVs.

@@tehbonehead Since I posted that comment two years ago, Renault completed their Refactory in Flins and had refurbished 12,000 vehicles as at September 2022, with a target of 45,000 for the end of 2023. But that is the only manufacturer that seems to be doing this.

Because Money realistically a BEV makes a lot more sense to through money at to repair then a gas or diesel vehicle since they have almost no drivetrain issues outside of the battery wearing out so the only other repairs really should be suspension as it wears out which is cheap and tires/brakes, makes a lot of sense to replace the battery since the motor and gearbox is highly unlikely to ever have a failure before the frame rusts out but that doesn't make Auto manufacturers as much money, hopefully as more and more EVs hit the road the aftermarket can start supplying battery repair and replacement to more brands and models at cheaper prices

@@KiRiTO72987 All good points that bear out my experience of running small EV for the last 30 months. Even if I live another 20 years, my Fiat 500e feels like it will probably outlast me!

@B Witness Dude, the guy in the video said "that wraps it up, thanks for watching" so he probably stopped the video. No need to be an internet d*ck about it.

@B Witness Apparently you didn't take the time to finish reading my comment. "is there someone remotely close to me..." I live in Ohio and QC Charge is in California. Sending my car 3000 miles across the country is not cost effective. I was asking THEM, not YOU!

You're lucky. Mine gas just gone to 37 on an 80 fast chsrds

I get 75kms to a full charge in my 2013!😂 I’ll be upgrading to 62kWh soon. Bloody expensive though - I heard it might cost $30K😮😵

@@dddeathmannnn buy new car better than

Great question

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I think I heard somewhere that the battery itself is 9k plus another grand or two for the rest of the part's before labor so not terrible for more than double the range and a brand new battery I think one that matches the OE capacity can be had for 3-4 k

We actually are now making new aftermarket batteries available for the LEAF, in sizes starting at 42kWh. We expect our first volume shipment to arrive sometime in the first half of October.

@@QCCHARGE - That's awesome. Might be worth the 14 hour drive (tow) to get there, when I eventually need an upgrade.

This is the same question I have.

Ditto

Same! I prefer the spaceship like interior of the old ones over the more conventional new ones

Ditto

Same.

I am already on a second battery - replaced under warranty. After 5 years it is at %70/9 bars and it serves me just fine.

@@alternatereality7713 I just starting getting 8.5 kms per kw power ..by steady driving and ECO and not going over 80 km per hr

Well if I'm not mistaken the only oil in a leaf is in the gearbox/differential which is usually not a leaker

True but the older Leafs have 2 advantages. 1 insurance is cheaper and 2 most have dings and dents so you can park them anywhere and blend In.

@@en3rgy187 I'm thinking the same thing. I want more range from my existing Leaf. I only paid $18K for my 2013 Leaf new. New EVs are $40K minimum. $12K for 62kw upgrade doesn't seem that bad.. I'd like brand new cells for that price however..

That’s to much I have replaced a Chinese vw id4 battery 82kw due an accident and it cost me just $8k

Nissan dealers will not swap a larger capacity battery.

I'm looking forward for a ~5 year time-frame to replace my 2018 Volt's battery... would love to get newer tech and more all electric miles and keep the car going for another ~5 years (at that point in time I could have near to a half million miles on her).

if thats the case Im jealous, my 2019 Chevy Bolt only charges at a max of 55kw (highest Ive seen it is 51) it takes about an hour 15 to get from 15-80%

I hope the owners are still able to have access to a CHAdeMO station, I know a lot of EVGo, Electrify America, and ChargePoint stations are swapping their CHDMO cables with NACS as Nissan, the last holdout for the standard in the US, pledges to swap to CCS (Probably NACS if Ford, GM, etc. live up to their word and swap next year)

​@@zeph_os shouldn't be too big an issue since a CCS to Chademo adapter now exists though it's not as simple as a CCS to J3400 (NACS) or J3400 to CCS adapter since Chademo doesn't talk on the same standard as CCS/j3400 so you need an small processor to translate the CCS protocol to what Chademo uses so it's a bit pricey

Good question

@@roc00851 Bid on a totalled Leaf e-Plus and pull the battery.

Mark, look up Dala in Finland, he has a project under way to add CCS to a Leaf, using hardware from I believe the BMW EVs.

I looked imto the battery swap and the weight is not too different. Theres vid that shows a battery swap start to finish. The car computer haa to be re programed for larger capacity

Unfortunately this is a limitation of putting the large (62kwh) battery into a 2011 or 2012 LEAF. In a 2013 or newer, the instrumentation should work like normal, but the older ones basically were never designed to work with this much capacity. The car is fully functional, but it just won't really show the correct SOC on the dash. A 40kwh battery on the other hand could be swapped in and work with no issues in any LEAF (2011-2017).

The battery came from Nissan. The overall cost was about $13k US.

@@QCCHARGE WOWZER!

@@QCCHARGE i THOUGHT THE BATTERIES WERE 5500$ FROM NISSAN. Are you guys charging a 7000$ markup?

That pricing would be for a stock size $24kWh battery. As far as we know, it is not possible to buy a new 62kWh battery from Nissan (though there have been some folks who claim their dealers said they can get one). The batteries we are getting come from the used market, and usually are removed from wrecked Nissan LEAFs (though there are rare cases of "like new" batteries that were used for research projects at universities and such, which is what the battery in this video was originally used for). Typically, salvage operations sell used 62kWh packs for ~$9-11k, 40kWh packs for $7-9k, 30kWh for ~$4-6k, and 24kWh packs for ~$2-5k. Depending on which battery is being installed (some require extra work and hardware to adapt to the car), we charge ~$500-2,500 to do the install.

Thank you for this video. I bought a used 2012 leaf a year ago from Carvana which only had 10 life bars. Nissan wouldn't honor the warranty because it had more than 8 bars. My 10 bars soon went to 9. I bought a limited warranty through Carvana and they ended up swapping out the battery which cost 9k (battery and labor). Battery was 8k by itself. My only regret is that it was a 24KwH hour battery replacement. The dealer lied and said the swap wasn't possible for a newer model battery or I would have gotten the 62 kwh hr battery. Also after the swap I was getting an error code about the water pump. What error message did you show after your swap?

Unfortunately they are quite hard to find... If you're lucky, you might be able to find one at a wrecking yard, but often the batteries are already pre-sold before the car even makes it to a wrecker (if at all). The quickest way to get a battery would be to purchase a complete, wrecked LEAF from an insurance auction, though that definitely comes with it's own possible pitfalls and drama...

Sorry, we don’t have anything like that at this time.

@@QCCHARGE Thanks for the quick reply. So when installing a 62 kWh into a 2011 Leaf, the 3.3 kWh charger still remains as the primary charger.

The total cost is dependent on the cost of the battery itself. The way we do it here, is the customer buys the battery separately (we are willing to help source it, but ultimately the customer makes the purchase), then our cost for the installation is ~$2,500. The communication module that we use does the pairing with the car (hence why it needs to be programmed while the old battery is still in place).

@@QCCHARGE does this customer ever check in to give an update on how well the Leaf accepted the new battery?

@@QCCHARGE that’s a little pricey for the labor. Not trying to dis your business but that’s a little much. It’s not that hard of an install and can be done in a day correct? Really a few hrs. So what’s y’all’s hourly rate? $600 an hr??? Just sayin.

@@tjblackartist people like him can’t exist if people like you try to tell him he’s overcharging. He has the mind, a shop, guys to pay. Come on man.

@@LncGmz I own my own shop as well. And $600+ an hr is outrageous. Come on man

Brandon, yes, the 50kW is limited by the car, not the battery.

Batteries are not cheap. I would estimate that a replacement 24-30 kWh battery from Nissan is $7500 to $9500 from a Nissan dealer. Just the 40-62 kWh battery is likely $11,000 to $13,000 in this crazy car market of 2022.

@@QCCHARGE Interestig, so basically by the end of 2023, maybe it might be more possible to get a used 2012 Leaf for 5K, and swap the battery like you showed in the video for another 10K, and essentially have an upgraded 2012 Nissan Leaf with 200 mile range for about 15K (at the end of 2023)

@@flolou8496 mmmm not sure, just the battery is 13,500. Then I hear you should do suspension upgrades? Not sure about that though.

My thoughts have changed greatly in the year since I asked these questions, right now the best car's I would recommend to people are 2017 Ford Electric Focus or 2018 Kia electric Soul for like 12K with under 40K miles which is advertsied as dealerships now at this price point, but the key is to find one near you at this price obsviously, but I know 1 year from now, this we'll be common, depending on your personal preferences, the Ford Focus is built a little better than the Kia Sou from a suspension standpoint, it's multilink or double wishbone with the electric, but only MacPhearson Strut for the Soul, but the Soul, has a lot more cargo Room, both have the same range, but the Focus has extra horsepower also, but if the range in the low 100's before battery degradation when they were brand new does not fit a person's need's, than I would say just wait until say January of 2025 when I think it's going to be very common to see the newly redesigned 30 Kilowatts battery in the 2019 Nissan Leaf SL trim be available for like 12K to 15K where you get over 100 more miles in range, you still get the issues however with the non liqud cooling thermal management issues, which present potential problems in the SouthWest in the summertime, (I still think this issue is worst than the severe cold issues and battery range loss I hear from Nissan Leaf owners on RU-vid who live in climates that get into the freezing temps, but if your lucky enough to not live in extreme climates, that's probably the best electric car for the money from a range standpoint, The suspension on the 2019 Nissan Leaf however isn't anything special though, So to summarize, because of what I found out about the 2017 Ford Focus, I don;t recommend a Nissan Leaf over this car even at the 2016 year, which isn't going for much less anyway, the only problem that might arise with the 2017 Ford electric focus is that the car went out of production in 2018, but as I understand it, it's basically a regula Ford Focus anyway so parts for it should be ok in the future if anything breaks down, the electric focus was built even on the same assembly line as the regular focus, right now I can't decide, if I'm going to wait for the 2019 Nissan Leaf to come down more in price, paying 4K for the Nissan Leaf to get that 100 miles extra in range is a fair trade off, considering current gas prices and what they could be in our near future if gasoline shortages occur from middle east upheaval which is more and more a possibility, here is the best 2017 electric Ford Focus review I've seen so far: (I won't go into level 3 charging issues in the future with a Nissan Leaf because that's another subject on it's own) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MuheGsIxeNM.html

I have since purchased the 2020 Nissan Leaf SV Plus because it was only a $3k difference. Very happy with my purchase. 223 miles on full charge

There is a 40mm (~1.6") reduction in ground clearance due to the required spacers. Alternatively a 40kWh battery can be installed with no penalty to ground clearance.

Unfortunately Nissan will not sell you a 62kwh LEAF battery (or really any at all unless they are installing it, and depending on the year of your car, they will only install either a 24 or 40kwh pack). The sources for the 62 and 40 kwh pack for these swaps typically come from wrecked or otherwise salvaged cars. In some instances it's possible to find very low usage packs that were used for research projects, but those are exceptionally rare...