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Nitto Tire's Recon Grappler A/T vs. Ridge Grappler : REAL WORLD COMPARISON | Inside Line 

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@bootssummers3126
@bootssummers3126 2 года назад
Just bought a 2021 Rubacon Gladiator just so happened to be the same color you have. Your videos have saved me a lot of time and money guessing of what to do! Greatly Appreciate all you time and Effort putting these videos together! Keep things going and I will keep supporting!
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
Thanks for the note!
@warkillspeople
@warkillspeople Год назад
The Recons are great in snow despite the missing 3 peak rating. I drove 100 plus miles in snow coming out of Telluride with no issues. They also balance very well, like less than two ounces per side.
@patrickkelly8095
@patrickkelly8095 Год назад
The snow rating is my concern. I live in the mountains of the north east and snow is a major concern here. I don’t want a AT because they suck in anything passed road or dry pack gravel /dirt roads.
@spingel88
@spingel88 Месяц назад
The previous owner of my truck had put on 305/55-20 Ridge Grapplers. I gotta say, they are pretty stellar tires. They are just a tiny bit noisy, but otherwise, I have absolutely no complaints at all. They have great grip wet or dry, on road or off. A couple of days ago we went driving on some muddy forestry roads and I thought for sure that I'd need to at least put the truck in Auto 4wd, but it almost never spun. Haven't had them in any snow yet, being in Georgia... They even get decent mileage, having managed to get a best 25 mile average of 24.3mpg. Not bad at all for a RT tire on a Sierra with a 6.2L. I'm probably going to stick with the same tires again. Exhaustive searching for a cheaper alternative that's just as awesome hasn't yield any great alternatives...
@candidcapture
@candidcapture 2 месяца назад
Thank you for putting this comparison together. Currently running Trail Grappler and found driving in the rain really slippery so I am researching these two other Nitto offerings.
@ChristopherSeaDawg
@ChristopherSeaDawg 10 месяцев назад
I put the ridge grapplers on my F-150 two years ago and put 10k miles on them. A lot of over landing, most on trails with mud & ruts. Never had a single problem getting stuck or cuts. I keep them at 30 psi most of the time. They are awesome, and I will buy them again.
@frosty0419
@frosty0419 Год назад
On my F 250 HD the ridge grapplers struggle for traction on wet roads when the thread gets about 40-50 % worn. That’s why I am watching your review. Thanks!
@amendment2711
@amendment2711 8 месяцев назад
Lack of traction in wet roads is why i got rid of mine.
@sassinator21
@sassinator21 2 года назад
I have used the ridge grapplers on 3 different vehicles from 33’s to now 37’s on my gladiator. I got around 20-25k with half tread left on them but changed them recently for some Mickey Thompson Baja boss at’s. The ridges in snow did really well especially new and offroad I never had an issue. I had to retire my ridges due to a metal item in the sidewall that wasn’t repairable since I had certs. I’m super happy with the new Baja boss at’s , way more grippy and quieter than the ridges and they are 3 peak which I need where I work currently up in North Dakota. Since the recons are new I can’t say how well they do but knowing nitto, they will be a contender for a long time.
@gabrieldalcomune3044
@gabrieldalcomune3044 Год назад
with your mickeys, how’d they balance? I’ve heard they’re hard to balance. Kind of cross shopping between the ridge grappler and the mickey baja boss at
@sassinator21
@sassinator21 Год назад
@@gabrieldalcomune3044 both of them balanced really well. I get them balanced and rotated very 5 k
@gabrieldalcomune3044
@gabrieldalcomune3044 Год назад
@@sassinator21 You rebalance then each rotation too? Have they ever been out of balance? I ask cause my kendas can’t seem to hold a balance after each rotation
@sassinator21
@sassinator21 Год назад
@@gabrieldalcomune3044 the ridge grapplers I didn’t rebalance once and that was a mistake and had to take it back for balancing. On the Mickeys I balance every other rotations. Sorry to hear about your kendas
@buttersb123
@buttersb123 11 месяцев назад
Hey there I was wondering if you had any updates on the Mickey Thompson Baja boss AT? how have you liked them now that you have owned them for a while? Would you stick with these or the ridge grappler‘s?
@Motleymick
@Motleymick Год назад
I have the Ridge on my Ram 3500 now and I'm going to try the Recon next. All I use that truck for is towing a trailer down the highway.
@fasterthanyou7605
@fasterthanyou7605 5 месяцев назад
So excited to try the Recons. On my new Ram Rebel 2024 I have a brand new set of 35” Ridge grapplers and I love them! However on my wife’s 2022 Rubicon we are installing next week a set of 37” Recons to replace a terrible performing set of 37” Patagonia’s that actually reimbursed us for the terrible performance so kudos to milestar for the refund that means a lot but I’m going to what I use in my trucks. Nitto.
@rockstar69ster
@rockstar69ster 2 года назад
Love my Ridge Grapplers on my Gladiator. I prefer the Terra Grappler G2 on my other truck for mainly road use. The G2 is better in rain than the Ridge and just as quiet as the all seasons on my wife's SUV.
@lobsterlipps
@lobsterlipps 2 года назад
That’s my question. I currently have the terra g2 on my Grand Cherokee. I was thinking about upgrading to the ridge grapple however I have 80,000 on the G2’s and they have performed far better than expected. I mainly drive on the road however I occasionally get it muddy. Would it be worth it?
@ryanvegas777
@ryanvegas777 2 года назад
The only area that wasn’t really covered was snow. I am not a huge fan of ridge grapplers in snow. In fact I love this tire in everything else except the snow. Best tire I’ve owned but unfortunately I DO go on snow often enough for it to concern me and every time I do, I feel uneasy about these tires. I have been stuck 4 times with these tires in snow that I wouldn’t consider heavy. My BFG KO2 tires never left me stranded in the snow, but that tire was UNBELIEVABLY hard to balance. In the shop every 1k miles trying again. Had to have 2 replaced under warranty the balance got so bad. Never got them 100% so I switched to this ridge grappler. Overall the best tire I have owned. I have had to balance them ONCE in the 40k miles I have put on them. So other than snow it’s the best tire to own. At least for me
@betweenthepines4000
@betweenthepines4000 Год назад
Thats why I went back to the G2 last week. Still the best all around AT that Nitto makes, closely followed by the Exo. Two very proven and capable tires that were focused on performance, not sema showstopper looks.
@JDC129
@JDC129 Год назад
I live in GA but frequently visit Syracuse NY(Snow capital of the US) to see my in-laws. My Ridge Grapplers are terrible in the snow. Sidewalls are too stiff and the compound of the rubber too hard. Love them otherwise!
@longreach207
@longreach207 Год назад
Weird...I've been stuck in a Roadside snowbank and actually got myself out, unaided. Only ever Ridge Grapplers for this JK! 🇺🇸
@patrickkelly8095
@patrickkelly8095 Год назад
Isn’t this video about the Recon Grappler and not the ridge?
@precisionsoundworksstudio
@precisionsoundworksstudio 3 месяца назад
Excellent overview. I’m selling my car and looking for a truck. Gotta find the right tire that’s a balance of aggressive looks and highway manners. The Recon might be it!
@thatoff-roaddude9515
@thatoff-roaddude9515 5 месяцев назад
Ridge all day!! I just replaced mine @71k 4 and a half yrs later i will admit my truck started riding a bit rough 9 months ago absolutely love those tires worth the price.
@nickricholetti754
@nickricholetti754 2 года назад
I’m not sure anything on the market right now compared to the ridge grapplers
@riverracerx
@riverracerx Год назад
About to replace my Ridge Grapplers on my 2019 Ram 1500 with over 80k miles on them. I LOVE them. But might try the Recons for my next set.
@kdbl007
@kdbl007 2 года назад
Wish they’d release the Recons in 35x12.5x17….best tire size for my truck and ride quality
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
We know 17's are coming soon.
@JK-qq2jm
@JK-qq2jm 2 года назад
Getting them this week in that size.
@davidschaller7962
@davidschaller7962 2 года назад
🙏🏼 for this great comparison! Two questions: What pressure do you run on highway vs sand? Are the tires in your recon and ridge videos always mounted with the more aggressive sidewall outside?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
Thank you. Street pressure for my Ram is around 60 psi and 35 psi under the Gladiator. I drop the Ram pressure down to 20 for the beach. It’s not necessary with the Gladiator. I have each mounted with the more aggressive sidewall out.
@butchgreene
@butchgreene 2 года назад
Also...I HATE my Ridge Grapplers here in Asheville. Every road is windy and curvy here and the side lugs have gotten horribly feathered. I can pull off pavement onto gravel and every other lug doesn't even have dust marks. With them being so staggered, they started a roar at 20k miles that is deafening and fills my cabin. A certain person Ali and I both know has put the Ridge Grapplers on his vehicles and has no complaints so far, but don't know if he's gonna put as many miles on his what with ALL the vehicles at his disposal. Not buying them again solely because of those side lugs being so odd angry after break in.
@fredflati5789
@fredflati5789 Год назад
Thank you very much for the great video review. Recently purchased a new 2023 F150 Platinum and im considering the Recon Grappler and the Toyo Open Country AT3. I rarely travel off-road but im looking for a tire that makes my truck look aggressive like a truck should but dont want additional road noise or a loss in fuel economy. Planning to go with the stock size for now which is 275 60 R20. Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
I haven't driven on the AT3, So I can't speak to how it would perform. They both weigh the exact same. Just off of looks, I prefer the Recon Grapplers.
@michaelnugara1
@michaelnugara1 Год назад
Rippa comparison vid mate 👍
@jasondickinson1842
@jasondickinson1842 2 года назад
Thank you for the review! How does the Recon do against hydroplane? And is the sidewall uncomfortably stiff, or does it flex nice like a KO2?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
Haven't had an issue with hydroplaning. Both stay fairly planted in the rain in general. Both have heavy sidewalls, but neither feel super stiff under the Jeep. I can still run around 30 PSI under the Gladiator and it rides nice.
@cathtech15able
@cathtech15able Год назад
Excellent video! I appreciate the detail and time you put into creating it. Ironically, I've been debating which of these tires would be best for my 22' RAM 1500. I also had my eye on the very same wheels you have installed on your 2500. Can you tell me what size the tires are that you had mounted ? Thanks...
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
Thanks. They are a 37x12.50R20 Recon Grappler A/T
@butchpalmer1860
@butchpalmer1860 2 года назад
Great review!!!
@GirlDad2321
@GirlDad2321 2 года назад
Very informative. Thank you!
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@davidgore5719
@davidgore5719 2 года назад
Just bought a 2021 Ram 2500 Longhorn with the Cummins--looking at replacing stock Firestone Transforce AT with either more aggressive BFG KO2 ATs or Nitto Recon ATs. One aspect you didn't touch upon in the Ridge versus Recon debate was fuel mileage. Not sure if you had any experience with street tires before installing these but did you experience or do you expect a moderate drop in fuel mileage with these tires over the less aggressive stock Firestone's? You had the recon's on the Ram 2500 (not sure if it has Cummins). Let me know what you think and what MPG's you have been experiencing (city/hwy/combined)? I will be doing some moderate towing with boat and travel trailer and fuel mileage is definitely a huge factor. I could get by with maybe 1MPG less but 2-3 MPG less would be hurting me--lol! Thank you for this really great review as I was initially considering Ridge Grappler versus BFG KO2s but now I think they are too aggressive for my needs.
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
The Ram does have the Cummins. Both of these tires are more aggressive than a highway radial for sure, but not so much that you’re going to drop 2-3 miles per gallon. The Recon Grappler is slightly less aggressive than the Ridge. So, it’s going to be the one that delivers less rolling resistance, which will help with fuel economy. I doubt you’ll drop more than one mpg moving from the stock tire to one of these.
@davidgore5719
@davidgore5719 2 года назад
@@DrivingLine Thanks for your expeditious response. With the Recon A/T, I was hoping it would be about a one MPG loss at most. I have 35" Trail Grapplers on my 2003 Jeep Rubicon and 33" BFG KM2s on my 1998 Chevy Z-71. With both those mud tires, I lost 2-3 MPG on each so that makes sense it would be around one MPG being quite a bit less aggressive. I'll see if I can lay my eyes on the actual Recon A/Ts at one of my tire shops to see it in person before I buy it. Will definitely be between the Nittos and BFGs but will have to sleep on it a few more nights. Need to also check out the Toyo AT3 just to rule it out. Thanks again for your input and review of these tires--David
@Schneble73
@Schneble73 2 года назад
Curious on the snow performance of the Recon Tire. My Ridge Grapplers are almost done so I'm scoping out a different tire. 90% road/towing a boat with occasional trips off road to go shooting.
@Ali_Mansour_Editor
@Ali_Mansour_Editor 2 года назад
I have not tested them in snow, but a few others here on the channel have and stated they work great. From what I understand, the Recon has the same compound as a tire with the three-peak rating, but they have not been tested long enough by the rubber manufacturers association long enough get the official badging for that.
@jamesmullen75
@jamesmullen75 2 года назад
I have a set on my F150 here in Minnesota.. we have snow. So far the Recon's have pretty drastically outperformed my Ridge Grappler's in slippery conditions. Very impressed! Running 50 psi.
@Schneble73
@Schneble73 2 года назад
@@jamesmullen75 Thank you. I have my local tire shop setting a pair of the Recon's out and a pair of the Falken Wildpeak AT3's so I can compare.
@jasondickinson1842
@jasondickinson1842 2 года назад
@@jamesmullen75 50 psi on F150? Is that 16+ with aluminum body? I’m running about 35 in my KO2’s. Or are you loaded all the time? Does the Recon need more pressure?
@jamesmullen75
@jamesmullen75 2 года назад
@@jasondickinson1842 Yes, 2021 F150 Powerboost. I do occasionally tow but mostly drive unloaded. It's -10 here right now (just for reference) so the tire pressures drop pretty drastically when it's this cold. I need to do more testing but so far 40-50 psi seems to work well in a wide range of temps and conditions. I drove through a snow storm last night and on the freeway the tires felt very planted, especially in 4wd. The tires are rated to 80psi so 50 seemed like a good place to set them and so far so good.
@Aalqalam
@Aalqalam Год назад
I just installed the recon grapplers on my truck as a daily driver mostly highway. There is a very humming noise compared to the highway tires that come stock. How’s your experience since you posted the video ?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
The Recon's make more noise over a highway radial, that's for sure. But, they are very quiet for an all-terrain tire. The ones under the Ram have around 35,000 miles on them now and are still quiet.
@Aalqalam
@Aalqalam Год назад
@@DrivingLine thank you for your feedback.
@DH-gp3gp
@DH-gp3gp 2 года назад
How come we do not get any other manufactures tire review. BFG or another brand? It seems the internet is filled with mostly Nitto videos.
@andyham6094
@andyham6094 2 года назад
I’m pretty sure driving line is in partnership with nitto. That’s the only tire they ever push and talk about and sponsored
@albertb1702
@albertb1702 2 года назад
Hey Ali, I'm curious and couldn't tell from the videos, pics or web article on these, when you were running the 37x13.5x20's on your Gladiator, did you have a 5th one run in the spare location? I'm actually looking at the Recons in 37x11.5x17's since I've got AEV 17 inch Pintlers, so a different beast altogether from what you were running way back before the 40's.
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
I could never get a 37 to fit in the stock location. I always just put the spare in the bed when I went out of town.
@abrahamzayas133
@abrahamzayas133 4 месяца назад
Great video! Any updates on your thoughts?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 4 месяца назад
I still think the Recon is the better on-road tire. It’s lighter and quieter. The Ridge remains the better trail tire. They both ride about the same. So, it comes down to if you need more off-road performance.
@abrahamzayas133
@abrahamzayas133 4 месяца назад
Thank you, that’s great info. I’ve had over 60k miles on the ridge grapplers and even the Toyo RT but never the Recon. I do lots and lots of highway driving so I think I’m gonna give the recon a shot. I would like quieter
@HarrySituations
@HarrySituations 2 года назад
Ali is the hero we need.
@Ali_Mansour_Editor
@Ali_Mansour_Editor 2 года назад
😁
@jaymckenzie4419
@jaymckenzie4419 2 года назад
Have you had any experience with the ridge grapplers on road in snowy conditions? The 3 peak doesn’t mean much to me but real world performance is something I’m curious about
@Ali_Mansour_Editor
@Ali_Mansour_Editor 2 года назад
I don’t unfortunately. Where I live, I rarely see any sort of snow.
@duramaxnash
@duramaxnash 2 года назад
I had the ridge grapplers up north in Canada with weather ranging from 20°C to -50°C and the ridge grapplers has out performed any tire I’ve ever had in snows slippery conditions and in deep snow. I would recommend ridge grapplers to anyone
@philipmalone888
@philipmalone888 2 года назад
great video! what PSI do you run the recons on in the sand?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
Under my Gladiator, I don't air them down at all in the sand. Even with 30psi, I don't find it necessary. If I had them under something heavier, I'd probably drop them to 15psi, but the large footprint of the tire under Gladiator really hasn't required me to lower the pressure for the beach.
@cmorse723
@cmorse723 2 года назад
Anyone else having issues with getting these tires especially in 35’s and up? Nitto doesn’t have a timeline when they will be available/made.
@Bananahammock88
@Bananahammock88 2 года назад
Look online. I’ve found all of them in every size online
@joem8247
@joem8247 2 года назад
Great review! Where are you driving in the sand in this video? Is there a beach in the southeast that we can?
@Ali_Mansour_Editor
@Ali_Mansour_Editor 2 года назад
Thank you. I’m in North Carolina. You can actually drive a few places here in the state. Up north on the Outer Banks and further south on Carolina Beach and at Fort Fisher OHV area.
@gian-lucbrasseur6200
@gian-lucbrasseur6200 9 месяцев назад
With a 295/65R20 can is safely air down to 20 PSI without a beadlock rim?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 9 месяцев назад
You should be fine, however, part of that’s going to depend on if it’s under a 1 ton truck. I’m assuming with that size you’re probably a 1/2 ton truck or lighter, which should be fine. If it is under something heavier, I would go with 25 psi to start.
@gian-lucbrasseur6200
@gian-lucbrasseur6200 9 месяцев назад
@DrivingLine thank you for the reply. And yeah I drive a Ford F150. Some days I wish I had a lighter rig that I could do some serious offroading with. But I gotta work with what I have!
@JeffGillis1
@JeffGillis1 2 года назад
Which is better in snow & ice?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
I don’t have a lot of experience with either in that terrain. Just based off of how the tires are designed, I would say the Recon is probably better suited for winter conditions.
@gregandbethpawluk2316
@gregandbethpawluk2316 Год назад
just bought a 22 gladiator rubi. do i want ridge grapplers or it’s cousin open country at3’s in a 35 inch?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
The Ridge Grappler is more aggressive. So, if you want that look and something more off-road oriented, that's what I would go with. The AT3 is more similar to the Recon Grappler in that they are both all-terrain tires. Both the AT3 and Ridge weigh about the same. So, there's no major difference there. It's also worth mentioning you can now get the Ridge in a 35x11.50, which is ideal for the stock Rubicon wheel over a 12.50.
@gregandbethpawluk2316
@gregandbethpawluk2316 Год назад
@@DrivingLine I keep reading horror stories with ridge grapplers and rain. I’m in NC- hurricane weather is legit. Thoughts? I’m pretty novice.
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
I'm born and raised in NC. Currently live in Wilmington. I know all about rain and hurricanes here. I've never had an issue with Ridge Grapplers in the rain.
@gemcityfireman
@gemcityfireman 2 года назад
What size is on the ram? 35 or 37?
@Ali_Mansour_Editor
@Ali_Mansour_Editor 2 года назад
37x12.50R20 on the Ram.
@JDC129
@JDC129 Год назад
I am at 55K miles on my Ridge Grapps and still have about 30-40% tread life left. Cant believe how durable they have been and still balanced pretty well. They are getting loud AF like you said though lol
@mikehughes8023
@mikehughes8023 2 месяца назад
Do you have a tow rig?
@JDC129
@JDC129 2 месяца назад
@@mikehughes8023 It’s a 2018 Sierra 1500. I tow my boat with it but that’s it. Update I just swapped the Ridge Grapps for the Recons. I got 74k out of them but they were pretty noisy at the end. Love the Recons. Smooth and quiet.
@nealequipment3777
@nealequipment3777 2 года назад
I just put Ridge Grappers on my dually f350 and i was very impressed how quite the tire is.. form experience i have had 2 sets of Toyo AT2 & 3. And they where noisier than the Ridge Grappers..
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
It is impressive how quiet aggressive tires are these days.
@fatsixtysix5392
@fatsixtysix5392 2 года назад
My dad has the ridges of his 2500hd and i just convinced my mom to get the recons on her f150! I got another 15k miles on my ko2s we’ll see how these nittos perform😈
@Bananahammock88
@Bananahammock88 2 года назад
How are the recon grapplers??
@ElectricBlueIX
@ElectricBlueIX 2 года назад
Great informative review. I just ordered the Recons for 2011 Sierra 1500 along with a set of Fuel Rebels! Can’t wait to get these installed. I’ve been a fan of Nitto for years. They might be slightly higher in price but the benefits are undeniable. Previously had 3 different trucks with Terra Grapplers and would have gone with them again if they were available. That’s when I heard about the Recon Grappler. Thanks to video review like this one to help make my decision easier!
@Bananahammock88
@Bananahammock88 2 года назад
How are they??
@AllTerrainFamily
@AllTerrainFamily 2 года назад
I’m pretty happy with my ridge grapplers! Good on road and off. Heading down for an Overlanding tour in Death Valley for more testing!
@AllTerrainFamily
@AllTerrainFamily 2 года назад
The did really great on 3 days off road in Death Valley towing a trailer even! Very happy.
@tiny_the_200
@tiny_the_200 2 года назад
I love that the Ridge is offered in a 38 x 12.5. Most 38’s seem to go wide. They also remain moderately light for their sizes 👌🏼 Now if I could find someone to contact for “influencer” promos 🤓
@ronnierebhan229
@ronnierebhan229 2 года назад
Very informative, thank you. Ordering Recons this week.
@Jassman3536
@Jassman3536 2 года назад
great review. Just subscribed. I have had Terra grapplers and then 2 sets of ridge grapplers on my 15 F350...love the Ridge but like you mention when you get to about 35k of wear they get a lil louder. I switched on my 20 F250 to Yoko X-At...also a great tire just now getting about the same or just slightly louder than the Ridge Grapplers at 30-35k wear. I dont go much on the trails anymore and pull trailers through job sites so more on pavements and wanting the quietest AT tire since I switched to the 7.3 Gas vs the Powerstroke.
@garyburdett2337
@garyburdett2337 Год назад
In a gladiator with a go rhino rack, you can stand a 38 Nitto trail grappler MT up in the back of your gladiator against the cab
@ManuelRodriguez-qq3pn
@ManuelRodriguez-qq3pn 2 года назад
Bro thanks for the video, clear some of me questions and re insure some of me believes, because I work on construction and travel a lot, I can conclude that my best option is the Recon.
@diversify210
@diversify210 11 месяцев назад
Im a huge fan of Nitto. Ran the Terra Grapplers on my trucks for years and loved them. That said, I have been seeing nothing but problems with the Recon Grapplers. Just replaced the tires on my Tacoma and wanted to go with the Recons, but Im seeing more problems with them than I see people that actually like them. So I just went with the Toyo Open Country AT3's
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 11 месяцев назад
Curious what problems you are hearing about Recon Grapplers. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with them. It’s also worth mentioning that Toyo owns Nitto. Both tires are built in the same plant.
@brians.4488
@brians.4488 2 года назад
Great information. I wonder which auto manufacturers will use these on their brand new trucks and maybe aggressive crossover vehicles
@maverickreviewed7894
@maverickreviewed7894 2 года назад
If you have tried the Toyo Open country AT3, would you place them as a better highway, daily driver tire compared to the Recon? These are the two I’m trying to decide between. Thanks
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
I’ve not personally tried the Toyos. So, I can’t speak to how they compare. I do know that Toyo owns Nitto Tire. So, there’s likely some alignment in terms of overall quality between the two tires.
@loriharton271
@loriharton271 2 года назад
How do these compare with the BFG ko2?
@Ali_Mansour_Editor
@Ali_Mansour_Editor 2 года назад
It’s been a while since I’ve spent a considerable amount of time on a K02. That’s what came on my JL Wrangler Rubicon when I purchased it. I remember them being a little loud and hard to balance. However, I haven’t spent enough time on the trail with those tires to make a fair comparison.
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 2 года назад
I love the K02…it’s my go to tire for all my trucks and my Rubicon
@1111Overland
@1111Overland 2 года назад
I’ve been running K02s in different sizes over many many years. They really are amazing tires, but I’m planning to go Nitto on my next set, and can’t decide between Recon and Ridge. This video is helping!
@BRG13DEAN
@BRG13DEAN 3 месяца назад
I have had two used sets of ridges over the last few years and really like them. The recon does intrigue me though. Noise doesn’t bother me, mpg wouldn’t imagine would be drastic enough for me to swap. I drive a 09 Silverado 1500 and I pull a 20 ft boat nearly every weekend and my off-roading consists of dirt roads on the local game lands. Is it worth switching to the recon or should I stay with the ridge?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 3 месяца назад
If road noise and mpg are not deciding factors, then it honestly comes to more to looks and longevity. The Recon will likely last longer, but the Ridge is the better off-road tire. A good number of the Recons that have come out since I made this video have been considerably lighter. That equates to better mpg and performance. I have Recons on my Ford Raptor now and love them.
@HMPennypacker
@HMPennypacker Год назад
What bumper is that on your ram? Great video! Thanks
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
It's from ARB.
@charlescrim5266
@charlescrim5266 2 месяца назад
My problem with choosing between the two is I need good for wet road ( u chose Recon) and I need it to perform well in this Alabama mud (you chose ridge) during hunting season. Any advice? Will be purchasing within the next few weeks
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 месяца назад
I would go with the Ridge. It works well enough in the rain and is definitely better in the mud.
@riley6723
@riley6723 3 месяца назад
Even though this video is old. It’s still relevant. The Ridge Grappler has been my fav on my f350. Quieter on the road and smoother ride than the newer Toyo AT3’s. I’ve been eyeballing the Discoverer AT3’s…..but I might look at these Recons.
@MistAtsiM
@MistAtsiM Год назад
3 out of 4 of my Ridge Grappler lt have not been able to balance them since get go, not to mention, uneven wear even with several several alignment checks at several shops with numbers perfectly dialed in on my F250 with just a leveling kit. Also have gotten radial pull on those 3 tires. Yes I did install the traction bar, and caster shims. So I do not believe this is an issue with truck. So next set will be recon. If they fail me again, I won't purchase another nitto again.
@MrDraper38
@MrDraper38 Год назад
Great video. Trying to decide between the 2. I habe an f250 7.3 4 wheel drive. Im on the highway a lot. Also in dirt and sand some as im in the landscape industry. I also build koi ponds and waterfalls. So i beed to tow and haul rock in my bed. Your opionion which to chose. Like i said im on the interstates a ton as well. I go to all my daighters college soccer games from july to December all over the SE.
@ChristopherSeaDawg
@ChristopherSeaDawg 9 месяцев назад
I have the Ridge Grapplers on my F-150 now for 2 years. I can’t say enough good things about them, and they still look new. I do a lot of trails in Wayne National Forest, and seldom need to use 4 wheel drive.
@ronnierebhan229
@ronnierebhan229 2 года назад
The 275 R18" on my 80th anniversary is going E rated, do you have any concerns on being a heavier tire on the gladiator, stiff riding, shifting issues, slow torque off the line? Do i need to reprogram? Thx
@av8orAH64
@av8orAH64 Год назад
Hi Ali, Thanks for your informative videos. I think I have watched most of your tire videos. I live in the Southwest in North Texas. I have spent a good amount of time in the Outerbanks area and love it there. I supported our Marines at New River and Beaufort and fell in love with the area. I wish this was my environment. I get more dry rocks and need the low weight and performance of the Recon Grappler. If I lived where you live, I would choose the Ridge. I must admit that I like quiet, fast acceleration, and the lower unsprung weight of the Recon. I think for my environment, the Recon edges out the Ridge. But it was a tough call. Thanks to your unbiased videos I was able to choose for myself and my driving conditions. My 2021 Rubicon 392 XR also Sarge Green is a beast and I love its performance. As a guy who always vacillated between performance cars and utility vehicles the 392 XR is so much fun. I don't want to choose because I want both on and off-road performance. However, since I will drive this more onroad than off I will opt for the lighter quieter tire with reasonable off-road performance. I am currently running on 35" Goodrich A/Ts, I even considered remaining stock in the XR configuration on the bronze bead lock capable 17s with 35s. But a two-inch bump stop to jump up to a 37 Grappler? I gotta do it. Thanks for helping me to make an informed decision. If all else fails, I have a 392 Extreme Recon running on Recons...kinda like they chose themselves. Cheers, Gary
@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures
@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures Год назад
Currently debating whether to go 38x12.5r17 Ridge grapplers or 37x12.5r17 Recon grapplers for my highly modified Bronco. My current 37x12.5r17 KM3s look small compared to most 37s and are getting quite noisy. If the Recons came in 38x12.5r17s, that would definitely be the route I'd go with.
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
I would go with the Ridge Grappler if you are doing more trail wheeling. Both the Recon and Ridge are true to size tires, but the Recon is about 6 pounds lighter per tire. Another point for the 38” Ridge is that it comes with a load range c sidewall, which is great for something like the new Bronco.
@FarmTraveler
@FarmTraveler 10 месяцев назад
This was super helpful! Thank you!!!
@butchgreene
@butchgreene 2 года назад
Well...I found one issue with the Recon Grappler that I hate. Not available in 16" rim size, so won't be going on my Xterra.
@1Coolbanana
@1Coolbanana 2 года назад
Great video 👍 Clear concise, very good.
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
Thank you.
@TheShowtime85
@TheShowtime85 Год назад
That’s weird you saying the Recon is better in wet weather because on Nitto’s official site they say the Ridge Grapplers had a higher rating in wet weather.
@brianmadlock8385
@brianmadlock8385 10 дней назад
How do they perform on wet road and in snow/ice
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 10 дней назад
Wet roads, they both perform about the same. I don’t live in a place that gets really any snow or ice. So, I can’t really speak to that.
@AHayes-ss6js
@AHayes-ss6js Год назад
Dude. Well done. Super informative. Thank you
@Greengiant1968
@Greengiant1968 Год назад
Good video , made my mind up on the ridge grapplers .
@RobertoPerez013
@RobertoPerez013 Год назад
It just help me to made my decision, Thank you
@nofameculture
@nofameculture 2 года назад
Great information 👍
@joshharris2777
@joshharris2777 Год назад
How do the recons do towing with your 3/4 ton?
@MrSteelr4life
@MrSteelr4life Год назад
Thanks for the detailed review.
@silver3157
@silver3157 Год назад
Great review, completely agree!
@Branner1968
@Branner1968 2 года назад
Extremely helpful review, thanks!!
@ricardolopezdevictoria1109
@ricardolopezdevictoria1109 2 года назад
I wish you stated the weight of the tires, within the same size. I think a lot of tires out there are "heavy" which changes your entire dynamics. A reason I use Patagonia M/T.
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
You are correct. Weight absolutely makes a difference. I wish I would’ve weighed the tire and wheel combo, that way I could’ve given accurate comparisons for that. Most of the tires I like tend to be on the heavy side. In my experience with LT tires, the lighter it is, the less reliable the sidewall. I guess it just depends on what you’re doing with the vehicle.
@davidcooper3957
@davidcooper3957 2 года назад
Thank you for the details, have you had a chance to try the ridge grappler in the snow? I’ve had two sets of G2s 35” and now 37” and now with almost 85k on them it’s getting to replace them. Looking to go with a set of 38”. This is all under my JKU with pro rock 60s and a LT1 6.2
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
I had Ridge Grapplers on my Ford Raptor a few years ago when we got a lot of snow for my area. They did very well, but I don't have enough time on the Ridge over snow to make a real review. I hear they do well, but the only Nitto I've put any time on in the snow is the Trail Grappler.
@KGFlyer55
@KGFlyer55 2 года назад
Great comparison 👍
@dsaltlife2925
@dsaltlife2925 2 года назад
Great job 👍
@mitchwelty7636
@mitchwelty7636 Год назад
I just bought the recon grappler a/t’s 33x12.5 a week ago and driving it right away they’re super loud. 80 decibels at 45 mph. I’m far from an expert on tires and don’t know what to do. Any advice?
@michaellesko7141
@michaellesko7141 Год назад
Try turning your radio up
@mitchwelty7636
@mitchwelty7636 Год назад
@@michaellesko7141 uno triple reverse, the transmission went out so I sold it!!
@thebiblicaldigest
@thebiblicaldigest Год назад
Snow?
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
I don't live in a place that sees any snow. So, I can't speak to that. The Recon has more sipes and from what I gather a compound that is more aligned with a 3-peak snowflake rated tire. My guess would be it would outperform the Ridge in winter mix and snow.
@Marie-kj3xf
@Marie-kj3xf 6 месяцев назад
Why does everyone seem to think that hokey sound effects and terrible music helps? Please just grow up and give us facts/opinion. That being said, a good video.
@WeekendWarriors87
@WeekendWarriors87 2 года назад
Imo huge fail that the recon isn't snow rated. Definitely would have considered it if it was. Same with ridge grap actually, had tk go Goodyear
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
Nitto has a three-peak offering with the EXO Grappler. I think we may see the Recon eventually get the rating as well. The compound is right, but to achieve the three-peak official rating it has to undergo a certain amount of testing with the Rubber Manufacturer's Association. Given the Recon is so new, I don't think they've had enough time to test it.
@WeekendWarriors87
@WeekendWarriors87 2 года назад
@@DrivingLine Well thats good news, I like the sound of the recon but without that rating it definitely wont be my next tire. If this gets the rating I will be between these and those new mickey thompsons
@jasonlovell3934
@jasonlovell3934 2 года назад
I think tire companies should make more jeep and light vehicles specific tires for 17” rims. Everything from 33”-37” in C load range since most of the big trucks are going to 20’s.
@Ali_Mansour_Editor
@Ali_Mansour_Editor 2 года назад
I think you’ll see more of that soon. The demand for Hard Metric and Load Range C tires has definitely increased.
@Clearbrowser
@Clearbrowser 2 года назад
Which look more aggressive on a dually truck
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine 2 года назад
The Ridge Grappler looks more aggressive to me. Both have great looking sidewalls.
@vladyUA
@vladyUA Год назад
Thanks man for the review. Your scored “5+ starts”. I’m on a market now for a new set of tires for my T4R TRD PRO. So far my options are: KO2, Nitto Ridge, Nitto Recon, and Falken Wildpeak AT3W. After your review I narrowed down to Nitto Recon vs Falken AT3W. What would your say. Driving Nothing extreme: once a month camping in wood or snow trips in CA
@DrivingLine
@DrivingLine Год назад
I really like the Recon Grappler more these days. I put a set of 37 Recons under my dads Jeep a few months ago. He’s a picky 70-year-old that doesn’t care for loud tires and often drives fairly long distances (NC to Key West, Florida for example). He loves them. It’s also worth noting that the Recon is about 10 pounds lighter than some of the other 37s on the market, which is a huge bonus.
@jerryjohnson9531
@jerryjohnson9531 Год назад
I currently have the Wildpeaks and will not be buying them again. Mine are pretty much worn out at 31,000 miles with rotation every 5,000 miles. They are also getting quite loud. They have been great in the snow but a lot of AT tires can do that. I am looking at KO2's, Nitto Recon or Toyo Open Country AT3.
@vladyUA
@vladyUA Год назад
@@jerryjohnson9531 Thanks for sharing. I started looking at Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus (good reviews).
@user-zd2lt5se3u
@user-zd2lt5se3u Год назад
@@vladyUA I absolutely hate them. I rotated properly and have uneven wear. The Pirelli rep told me to go Nitto so what does that tell you 🤷🏼‍♂️?
@PUT_ME_IN_COACH
@PUT_ME_IN_COACH Год назад
I drove through a snow storm with 35 inch ridge grapplers, and they were outstanding. I had about 15,000 miles on the tires. I also drive on black ice as well and they did great (beings I had AWD engaged and 15-20 mph) I also towed many stuck vehicles on the beach as well and the tires were great in traction in deep soft sand. I even pulled a f250 diesel with 4wd that got stuck.
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