Niv Mizzet vs Nekusar vs Queen Marchesa vs Windgrace | S2E1 | cEDH Gameplay | Casually Competitive 

Remember to vote for your favorite commander using the 'i' in the upper right hand of the video. Also, let us know in the comments if you like the theme of powering up some commanders that aren't exactly at the cEDH tier. We plan to build them to be as strong as possible, but with season 2 we wanted to experiment a little with the commander choices, so let us know if this is something you would like to continue to see.

3:47 "Dark Confidant" is discarded to "Gamble." *Pauses video and checks Lord Windgrace's Opening Hand* Yup, that's how Gamble works.

Community: Man I can't wait to see what new and interesting combos and fun cards these players will use! This will be fun! CEDH players, aggressively T-posing: *T H A S S A ' S O R A C L E*

MISTAKE (DOES NOT AFFECT GAME): As a Gitrog player myself, I noticed a pretty glaring error- T4, Nate could not use the floating black mana from Bone Miser to Terminate Nekusar since every time he was went to discard was actually an entirely new Cleanup Step & the mana empties from his mana pool each time. This didn't really matter, since he had an untapped land that could produce the needed black mana & he never used that land before his next untap step, but it REALLY matters in games involving Gitrog decks, since comboing off using the Cleanup Step as your discard outlet is actually very complicated & tricky due to the mana emptying during each new step

If Joseph had activated his Top to draw a card after Jordan's Demonic Consultation had resolved, Jordan would have been forced to draw before Thassa's Oracle's ability resolved and he would have lost the game, unless I'm missing something? (end of the second game)

Game one was enjoyable but not surprising Joseph played 10 counterspell and the game was won with Thassa's Oracle.

Love seeing commanders on this power level. I hope to one day see Alesha on here, Mardu for life!

A friend if mine has a nekusar deck, I have a niv deck, every time we play together it's a race to see whether I draw curiosity before he kills me. these decks fuel each other into a beautiful wheel rube goldberg device

NEKUSAR LETS GO! I love him, personally I play him with a curiosity package and its so good.

15:00 Doesnt Adam get an assassin token here?

Sees new game: *starts to clicks on post* Sees Nekusar and Niv in title: *CLICKS RAPIDLY* im a fan of card draw if you couldnt tell

I’ll definitely enjoy a continued variety of commanders as you continue this season.

I'm happy to see any commander that's not a combination of partners chosen to allow for the usual dull CEDH decks that we see a thousand times on YT. Good on you for trying something new, I love it :)

That Underworld Breach into Burning Inquiry. I choked on my beverage there. Hilarious outcome. Love the fact that Nekusar gets pitted up against a t2 Bone Miser!

That Nekusar turn at the end of game 1 was absolute fire 🔥

These set of commanders were super fun and interesting! Hope you guys continue with this new direction, I especially loved seeing all the nekusar plays. I've only ever seen janky group huggish nekusar so seeing how a more tuned and competitive version would look was very cool.

I don't usually like these style gameplay videos but you guys make them very easy to follow and I'm totally hooked on these now. :) Keep up the good work! I especially like how you break down what's happening on the stack so well.

My comment on the last S1 episode was relevant! And this was a great game! Thank you guys for being great

Different commanders are cool and all but if every game ends with Thassa's Oracle it doesn't really matter much does it?

LOVE this new direction!!! Really seems like you're finding your niche 😁

Niv-Mizzet is super interesting to watch. I personally love watching decks built around him

absolutely love this game and the decks! I have been considering making decks out of all these commanders in the near future!

All for the variations in the command zone. Can’t wait for the next match up.

So stoked and loved the outcome. I play 3 of these decks and love to wheel!

I like seeing the sub-optimal commanders being maxed out on their potential. It shakes things up and means it's not always the same commanders every game. Keep up the good work!

excited! liked this game's decks lineup

Go Niv-Mizzet! He’s my boy, and I love him! So glad to see him being piloted on the show.

Queen Marchesa!! my first ever commander, and still my favorite. Long may she reign!

Nekusar!!!! One of my first commanders so I'll always have a soft spot for him. I've been meaning to resurrect that deck, not for cEDH but as a lower-powered but still formidable deck to play for a change of pace. Good stuff!

Nekusar is one of my favorite commanders. Glad to see him in action!

Honestly love the video. I’m a massive fan of Lord Windgrace and he is my strongest commander but I need to put that draw win-con in the deck. Currently, my main combo win con is using Purphoros, God of the Forge to wipe the table using landfall creature token generators like Avenger of Zendikar or Worm Harvest (the main ones). Continue the awesome vids as although i don’t play CEDH, I learn so much from you.

Seat positions mattered in this episode. Windgrace being seated before a heavy control player and after the Nekusar deck (light control) meant that deck was going to take a lot more hate than if Windgrace was seated in Marchesa's spot. I think it might be interesting doing a "reseat" on an episode or season, with the same decks but in a different order to see the impact.

I appreciate highlighting lesser used commanders. Just because they're not the most optimal doesn't mean they're bad or unusable. They have their own quirks and advantages.

Woooow the first game was veeeeery entertaining to watch. All the different interactions between the discard mechanics from Wingrace/Gitrog, the draw effects from Niv Mizzet and Nekusar with the combined draw/discard/wheel effects were very interesting to see! It would the great, if you would do a rematch with a mill commander like Phenax or Jelvala instead of Marchesa. That would take the game in such funny directions! Thumbs up guys!

I like this this feels more real to me as my play group tends to like to play more Niche generals in the most common most competitive General

finally!! some different decks!

I’m not sure if it is just the voiceover or if the game played out that way but, burning inquiry has to fully resolve including discard before the triggers from drawing cards get put onto the stack

Great games! They reminded me that I forgot Waste Not in my wheel deck. Dang.

I like your point on showcasing how "unoptimal" decks can still be powerful. Stuff like Tasigur and Rashmi can still do work even though they're inferior to the partner decks versions

It was fun watching that niv-mizzet pop off while it lasted. Its a shame he was never able to get off his near-infinite combo. I recently built a budget niv deck myself, love the commander.

Last game, you forgot to exile the spell (rolling earthquake) that was countered with Force of negation. I noticed it because i tend to forget it myself 😅. Nice games btw👍

That Nekusar win was insane!

Adam forgot to hire an assassin during his upkeep when he wasnt the monarch

You should always do two games. It can be seen better the interactions and intricacies of the 4 decks. Keep up the good work.

Oh wow. Oracle for the win. How spicy. Hurray.

I love nekusar glad to see him around

Loved seeing Nekusar. Hoping to see more games with him. Everyone says he sucks but I love seeing him show people wrong.

Hey correct me if I'm wrong, but the mana floating in Nate's pool at 9:00 should have emptied, as per the rule 514.3a: "At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins." Because it's a new step, mana would empty of of his pool and Nate couldn't have cast that Terminate with the floating black.

Could anyone tell me the name of the background music used in this video? I assume it's royalty-free, which is why it's not showing up in the video description...

I love the videos! Would love to see my boy Tasigur

Love your videos

great content

I'm gonna be trying a Nekusar & Obosh combo. Not exactly the most optimal since some of the key cards needed for a deck like this are even too. but it will be interesting if i can get it up and running

Excelent!!!

These are good commander choices👌

I would love a cedh golos build around the activated ability my version uses extra turns and land untaps for additional activations and some big beaters (eldrazi) to finish the game, but i would love to see what you come up with

That is some disgusting interaction with Bone Miser and the cleanup step. *I love it.*

I love monarch as a passive effect

Gitrog Monsters triggered ability is only one card for each instance of whatever triggers him so for example if you pitch two lands to bunting inquiry you only draw one card from the spell.

My favorite is Niv-Mizzet Parun. A fun powerhouse of a commander.

16:35 freaking ridiculous 😂

Loving Adam's play mat, anyone know where to find one?

I guess there could be a mistake in stacking the triggers in the Order active player -> nonactive players at the Burning Inquiry at 11:25 - First Niv Mizzet Triggers Putting it on top of the stack (that was right) then after that resolves, burning inquiry resolves fully (and that means each player draws three, then discards three), then there are a lot of triggers that are put on the stack in the order active player to nonactive player. So first the nine Nekusar (three to each) damage trigger go on the stack, then the card draw triggers from bone miser, then the niv mizzet damage ping triggers. When Niv mizzets damage ping resloves, Nekusar is dead and he cant trigger when Nate draws the cards from the Bone Miser. I dont think those 3 life would've made the difference, but yes, that was the most confusing burning Inquiry maybe ever.

Locust God is my pride and joy, would love to see him in a buffed up power level than would I can do.

I'm just here for the Nekusar!

I hope we get more non-oracle wins, kinda sick of that fish already. But i love the idea of different commanders! Thank you!

So during the whole discard a Nate endstep shenanigans with bone misery and gitrog mana empty’s from pools each time you discard since it’s a new phase correct?

GGsssss!

I would love to see an Ayli deck. I wanna know how strong she can be.

I just got nekusar! I plan on putting niz-mizzet in it so i do damage when i draw so twice as much damage and then just make everyone cast and copy each player draw half their libraries. I win!

Here I go building Gitrog again!

I have pretty much the same exact deck as Jordan's Nekusar, but I use a (proxy) Gwendlyn Di Corci, and instead of all his counterspells I have a ton of Bloodchief Ascension-like effects (Liliana's Caress and Migrain) to try and win through wheel damage in case the combo fails. His first game is my wet dream! An addition to be considered is Geth's Grimoire. It's a bit slow being a 4-drop, but it more than doubles every draw you get in this deck, given everytime someone discards a card, you'll be getting a draw from that. Wheel of Furtune? Discard your hand, draw 7+all the cards on other players' hands.

The first game was a lot more interesting than the second honestly. Equal back and forth is what generally makes magic fun to play *or* to watch. I think the general issue you guys have been having when you do a 'Hey let's pull back on the power level a little bit so we can see different decks and games' sort of match is that generally, not everyone pulls back the same amount. Here the Nekusaur deck is clearly a step above the table, with Windgrace and Niv being in the middle and Marchesa just having a hard time. Windgrace and Niv are powerful decks with strong strategies and synergies, but the difference between the first and second game was how many times Nekusar's deck got piled on with answers; it was enough to draw the game out but even from a dominant position Niv couldn't stop Nekusar from pulling a win out after just one really draining turn going back and forth with Marchesa with spells. The second game Nekusaur just got going and didn't get meaningfully knee-capped and just ran away with it. This was honestly still a much better try at the 'lets do something a little different' than the 'Tribal where not everyone was really playing Tribal' match from before. The Tyma/Thrasios was way further above that table than Nekusar was above this one. I just think when you do these you should talk more among yourselves about what you're thinking about bringing power level wise and you can probably get your next one of these pods even tighter in power level across decks, which will only lead to games that are more fun to play and watch and leads to more games where really clutch plays and skill at magic matter a little bit more and who was able to steam roll to their 2-card combo will matter a little less. Also, who knew you could take Nekusaur: an already linear, repetitive and boring commander/deck and make it even more so by just added Oracle/Consultation/Pact to it?

Oh my god i LOVE Niv-Mizzet my fav commander, just have to build around that restrictive mana cost then go off. My build uses a few cards or enchantements that like créatures being targeted to steal them or make them be sacrificed, à long with a lot of copy effects to draw à whole heap of cards

I voted for niv But I want to see all these commanders again ! Good variety!

9:20 Nate uses floating mana that I'm pretty sure should have been fizzled out. It doesn't affect the board much because he could have tapped his Overgrown Tomb and Blighted Woodland to pay for the rest of the Terminate. 514.3a as far as I'm aware in between each discard it's treated as a new phase which mana fizzles through, that's why the endstep loop for Gitrog requires all the cards in hand and not just to loop dark ritual during cleanup kill.

Both games for zombies..very good games all..keep up the good work

Love seeing my pet commander winning🥳🥳🥳

Nekusar spanking the rhystic and the mystic!

Can anyone give me a link to the original image of Adam's playmatt? I really dig it.

Nekusar is an awesome commander, fun for everyone

I love these commanders I have a deck for each haha

Nekusar is just an awesome Commander. It's the first Deck I ever build for Commander :D

Wahooo new video! Also first time being first :O

I really like the theme of season 2

Not our rose but the queen is OK too. Long may she reign!!!!!!

Id love to see a good competitive Karn, Silver Golem mono brown deck

What a day to see Nekusar, is there any chance to see old jhoira?

2 for the price of one?! this is a lucky day :D

Not sure if you'll see this, but I had a question regarding The Lord Windgrace deck. You mentioned that Nate could win with the Mana made off of Bone Miser, but I am not exactly seeing how. I'm seeing a few things, but not necessarily a what I would normally see as a table killer, I guess (Kind of the whole point of these lower power decks). Ob Nixilis, the Fallen and Splendid Reclamation paired with Squandered Resources to get ~30 triggers off of Ob's Landfall trigger, there's also Field which pairs well with Splendid and Squandered to make extra zombies and have haste from Anger. Are these what the win cons are or am I missing something?

So what percentage of games for you all end with a lab-man effect in actuality? I'm curious to get a feel of that, data wise.

I would love to see Marath Bloodpod in this power level he would be perfect.

I'd like to see a Tasigur list. So versatile a commander

Nekusar is by far my favorite commander to play but I play with a bit of stax sprinkled in

19:33 Shouldn't whispering madness draw 45 cards? 15 for whispering madness, 30 from notion thief? what am i missing?

I'd like to see Teysa Orzhov Scion at this power level. She is mostly the posterchild for that color combo but i rarely see a decent list for her that isn't horribly casual.

So uh...that six card stack was kinda crazy. I want a stack like that

Do I see it correctly that Joseph forgot his Baral counter triggers at 17:00?

15:09 no assassin from marchesa?

In the second game, did Nate not activate Lord Windgrace the turn he came out? Nothing was mentioned. Similarly, on the same turn cycle, did Adam miss the Flayer of the Hatebound etb trigger?