1:32: "Train sounds like it's on its last leg, don't it?" 765: "Ah shut up!! I can do this!!" *Determined stack talk intensifies* 16:38: 765: *Blows whistle triumphantly*
This is such an awesome vidio! I love listening to the stack talk! It almost sounds like she's saying, I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, i- think- i- cannnn, over and over! I love it so much! Show em what you've got in you, girl! Just keep on a- puffing! Rain.
SteamCrane-thanks for sharing this Great video. Me being a Steam-Fan for the most part,I enjoyed it very much. The main engineer-Rich Melvin on NKP 765,on Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society's web-site talks about ''The Hill'' a ruling grade to the southeast of Buffalo,New York years back on an excursion. The railroad's guide assisting in the cab that day didn't understand the power a steam locomotive has. It was interesting to hear Rich talk about the fact that the Diesel-Jock didn't know about NKP 765's pulling power.
Michael Bowman-I agree. We rode behind the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum's 2-8-0 #630 in October 2011 right after it was restored. We went up-and over Missionary Ridge south to Summerville Georgia from Chattanooga,Tennessee. We had 9-passenger-cars and no Diesel-helper,and we were in the vestibule of the first coach right behind the coal-tender with no Canteen(auxiliary-water-car). By the time we got near the top of the over 10-minute climb-up,we were down to a slow walk,but the 3-man-crew(it's hand-fired) kept putting down sand for traction. I know they were using sand because the 2-fireman kept looking out the left side,and down towards the driving-wheels checking the flow of sand. Number #630 never slipped or lost it's grip at all. I think that most Rail-Fans like to see steam passenger-trains go fast,but I like to see steam-locomotives using all of their raw-power to get over a hill at low-speed too. I am glad this video shows,and educates the public on what the #765 is capable of doing.
Wow, nearly 71 years young, and the crews still work her for all she has! That is a heavy train with all those passenger cars, plus a half dozen coal gondolas thrown in. Great stuff!!!!
Note that on this day, they didn't get the running start up the hill that they had hoped for. Track crew was told to grease the curve at NP junction (Ashtabula), and got carried away with it. Here is somebody else's great video of the work to get her past the grease: "NKP 765 Ferry Move, Rockport Yard to Youngstown, OH on 7/23/15 (Gets Stuck)"
Hopefully I found your youtube channel, but I wanted to let you know, I'm the gentleman who was in Mentor that you talked to when that NS train was stopped in the siding with problems.
I love the exhaust sounding like a rapid fire cannon. I have heard that in person, but maybe not as extreme as this. You can actually sense the concussion when it works so hard. Does anybody know what the gradient is here? Great video and sound!
The more I watch this, the more I get amazed by 765's might! Designed for fast freight, climbs up a grade unassisted with a good amount of cars. How steep is the grade?
No, the Nickel Plate never put boosters on these engines. The NKP line (not this ex-NYC ore line!) is mostly level, and since it was a high speed line, these engines were horsepower oriented. 4000 real drawbar Hp continuous across a whole division. The trailing truck they used was built to accept a booster, and NKP did consider it, but decided the maintenance wasn't worth it.
When I was in the Naval-Air they used to say if you attached a Cadillac Car to an Aircraft-Carrier's Steam-Catapult and fired it straight up in the air,the Cadillac would go up a mile.
@@cellogirl11rw55 No single locomotive can pull that much weight. And the 64,000 figure is close to 765's tractive effort in pounds, being 64,135 lbs. How much she can pull depends on where she's going, and this amount of cars seems to be what she can pull on this route.
Not really. At slow speeds (like in the video) a steam locomotive doesnt make maximum power unlike a diesel which makes maximum power from zero. Diesels are actually using electricity to power traction motors.
Bryan Porter well they get power at starting, and low end, the late period steamers like the 765 were made built and breed for most of their power at higher speed, we need more videos of this, she dont get many workouts like she used to, 17 cars is a drag but she pulled 100 freight on friction bearings in her first life, and climbed the new river goarge unaided with the longest trains they ever ran, as well as attica hill in The Hill story the Mr Melvin tells of her, and she actually accelerated the 1.5 percent grade hill and impressed the conrail conductor, as he had no idea about what a steamer could do, oh the safety valve blew, she did that a few times sitting on the cannonball run while not running, boy she is really working and pounding you almost never hear her have to go this hard, its almost like the video of the chessie special going up sandpatch hill slipping and slipping, and sounds like she is pounding the rails well she did it without too much trouble no slips from the NPK 765 loco on this hill but she had to earn her keep on this one.
manga12 Yep, that is a 1.8% grade there. Very steep. She did very well, as you say, the train had been already rolling. But an SD-40 would have had to stop to cool the traction motors, where a "real" engine. (STEAM) can just keep pulling till she slips, or gets over the grade. This reminds me of the the 614 pulled those coal trains back in the 80's. But she had a booster engine, so that is not quite the same as 765. I would love to see her pull some freight. I am not a passenger train fan. watching her drag a coal train up a grade would be the ultimate for me! :) Having a superheater, and such a large firebox helps tremendously in her pulling like that. She is a good steamer and responds quickly to load changes on the boiler.
oh almost 2 percent thats kind of steep really anything above 1 would be considered steep, but thats a fairly short run in 4 miles to climb that, I would also love to see her move freight beside the coal gondolas she has to fuel with, though it was nice to see that for a change, and I dont mean the photoshoot empties of vintage they do in owasso, I mean pull about 10 cars of revenue freight even if its just the short jog to the east wayne yard from the industrial park, and video it just something, I know they up does it but they own the engines they run, all three of them, and the other vintage diesels like the big mack that 6000 hp centenial eh maybe the name is not right but the double engine they used to use, and kept one for excursions, they will sometimes use them for special trains and for pulling freight when they need to sometimes, though they are out of the steam game for awhile rebuilding the big boy 4014 which will be neat when it comes back.
