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10/5/12: The umpires call the infield fly rule on a popup by Andrelton Simmons, causing the game to be played under protest by the Braves
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@gogopo-sm6pb 9 лет назад

As a braves fan, I watch this video occasionally just to piss myself off again

@ericktidwell9937 9 лет назад

Lol. As do I. I get just as mad watching it again as I did when it happend.

@user-oo4xu4by3w 5 лет назад

I’d get more mad every time the graphic comes up and says 3 errors. Those E were way more significant than that call

@nativebutnotofthisworld9792 5 лет назад

Legit call...

@AtomicApex 5 лет назад

As a baseball fan this pisses me off

@michaelhorsey5871 5 лет назад

Why would you be mad? An infield fly rule call walkthrough: It is a pop up (not a line drive, nor a bunted ball) ANYWHERE in fair territory that in the umpire’s judgment (any or all of them) feels an infielder can make a reasonable play on the ball. 1. It does not have to be in the infield. 2. The infielder doesn’t have to catch it. 3. An outfielder can catch it and it still be an infield fly. 4. No, a player does not HAVE to be “camped” under the ball. 5. The runners DO NOT have to run. 6. ONLY if the ball is caught do they have to tag-up. IF THEY CHOOSE TO RUN. 7. If the ball is in foul territory/near the baseline the proper call should be (infield fly, if fair). 8. If the ball lands foul, then it is foul. It is a strike to the count (no strike 3) and the infield fly does not take place but it is still in affect. 9.In field fly rule is on with runners on 1st and 2nd -or- 1st, 2nd, and 3rd with LESS than TWO outs.

@PersianSelection 9 лет назад

Infield fly rule was put in place to prevent double/triple plays due to infielders intentionally letting pop outs drop...its not supposed to work against the offense, Kozma was not camped under this ball, its not average effort when a shortstop has to run to left field, he thought he was called off but he wasnt and should have been charged with the error. Just a horrible call, anyone attempting to defend it doesnt know shit about baseball.

@lcrossmk8563 7 лет назад

No, you don't know the rules of baseball if you think that was the wrong call. That was the RIGHT call, and you know it.

@thomasmckenzie4584 6 лет назад

It's a terrible call and PersianSelection explains exactly the purpose of the infield fly rule. It is to protect the hitting team from a double play by an infielder intentionally dropping the ball and then turning two. The defense couldn't even have gotten an out on this play.

@hbk314 5 лет назад

@@thomasmckenzie4584 This call was clearly correct. Period. There's no disputing that fact. Learn the rule.

@thomasmckenzie4584 5 лет назад

I know the rule. I also know the purpose of the rule.... to protect the baserunners from getting doubled up. The rule was also there for the umpires to make the call when the ball is on the way up, not when it is on the way down and 2 feet from the ground. The umpire completely botched this call. There isn't a manager or player in baseball who would agree with this call. It was brutal!!!!

@hbk314 5 лет назад

@@thomasmckenzie4584 Nothing you said holds any relevance. You also make the false claim that it was called late.

@joedaddy20 10 лет назад

The Braves were screwed out of the playoffs because of this bullshit call.

@bnumber8 10 лет назад

Bad call, but still down by 3 with 5 outs remaining without it. Don't over-think it.

@joedaddy20 10 лет назад

they totally could have come back. they were about to if the umps didnt fudge this call

@KDK239 10 лет назад

bnumber8 The 2003 Florida Marlins were down by 3 with 5 outs remaining, and ended up scoring 8 runs because of a good no-call of fan interference... I rest my case, good night

@joedaddy20 10 лет назад

you have no clue...

@burtreynolds5520 10 лет назад

its not like they would have won anything, anyway. Atlanta fans don't deserve a winner. Biggest bunch of fairweather motherfuckers around.

@jrpgweeb 4 года назад

This was Chipper's last season too. I don't blame the Braves fans

@Coleburgess09 9 лет назад

im a nationals fan and really cant stand the braves but bravo for them i would throw shit too thats a terrible call its their way of protesting game good for them

@grantgilcrease7522 9 лет назад

Don't worry we hate you to

@Coleburgess09 9 лет назад

Grant Gilcrease thats what makes this fun

@lekileyboazman7471 9 лет назад

My dad shouted at the tv that day it was hilarious but I feel like we could have won that game if that call would have been overturned

@Coleburgess09 9 лет назад

LeKiley Boazman i ABSOLUTELY agree with that

@Illigrown 9 лет назад

+LeKiley Boazman You could have won it after the bad call too

@TheOriginalFrankMatthews 8 лет назад

I remember this like it was yesterday and this was bullshit

@dawgsfan1196 6 лет назад

Frank Matthews this and the 91 world series when Ron Gant got pulled of the back was probably the 2 of the worst calls in baseball

@cid2852 3 года назад

@@dawgsfan1196 I still remember the Ron Gant thing. I was barely 6 at the time and didn't really understand what was going on, but I remember my dad and older brother were really pissed about it (and now that I'm older, yeah, that call was 100% bullshit).

@shaun7096 8 лет назад

Earlier in the game the ump granted time to a Braves batter after the pitch was already being thrown. The very next pitch was a homerun. The way I saw it, this call evened it out.

@crispy6311 6 лет назад

This will go down as one of the worst calls in history. It completely ruined such a good game.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 6 лет назад

A prerequisite I think to qualify as the "worst call in history" is that the call be wrong. I don't think it even meets that criteria. The only thing I can deduce from your comment is that you don't understand the infield fly rule. Nothing more.

@crispy6311 6 лет назад

Willoughby Krenzteinburg and you liked your own comment because no one would ever agree with that hair brained bullshit. 30 yards into the outfield calls for the infield fly rule? And I don't understand the rules? It was called directly off the bat as an infield fly before the umps even knew where it was going and there are paid professionals stating that fact in the announcer box. Also, I said "ONE of the worst calls in history". Just stay out of comment sections there buddy.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 6 лет назад

Crispy Quote the part of the rule which excludes this play from being subject to the infield fly rule. Once you read the rule, you will find that not only will you not see such a clause, the rule specifically and explicitly omits where the ball is hit from consideration and the only criteria that needs to be met is that an infielder can make a play on the ball with ordinary effort regardless of where the ball is it. The rule is simple despite the fact that so many people have the same misconcrption you do. You're wrong. Period. You can assert otherwise all you want, but your redundancy doesn't add any merit to your nonsense. The infield fly rule was not invoked directly off the bat in this play. It was invoked the moment the fielder got under the ball and squared to home plate. You can literally see the umpire pointing up making the call. There is another misconception that the call has to be made the moment contact is made, and that's just more nonsense. The rule states that the umpire shall call an infield fly immediately after it becomes apparent that it will be an infield fly. In other words, once the fielder gets squared to home under the ball arms raised. At that point, the umpire can rule that merely ordinary effort was required to make a play, and it was this moment the umpire actually invoked the rule. It was textbook infield fly rule. I dont like my own comments. If it gives you a sense of victory to think otherwise, that's fine by me. You clearly need a win. Have at it.

@bryceharperwallstar3098 6 лет назад

I'm a Braves fan and a Green Bay Packers fan. I had to live with this call and the Fail Mary call. I'm also a Sacramento Kings fan and remember 2002 very vividly.

@JJDaSaintsFan 2 года назад

No way bruh that’s gotta be a troll 💀

@FigureFarter Год назад

@@JJDaSaintsFanThat's the other breed of Yankee-Cowboys-Lakers fans

@placeholdermcgavinport5343 Год назад

Seriously. I have a hard time believing someone would be a fan of teams in atlanta, sacramento, and green bay randomly. @@JJDaSaintsFan

@samborgensjr6456 10 месяцев назад

@@placeholdermcgavinport5343 Automatically better than Chiefs-Warriors-Astros fans.

@richardabram4596 8 лет назад

It was the correct call. I am an atlanta braves fan and it hurt at the time. The rule states that the ball has to be caught caught with ordinary effort.Ordinary effort is established by mechanics/rule when the infielder is facing the general direction of home plate. As for the timing, mechanics teach the umpires to call an infield fly when these conditions are met. This is exactly what they did. By rule the effort of an outfielder is irrelevant as well the balls location. The umpires did a perfect job on the call and the timing of it. The timing is unfortunate in this case, but i'm not convinced at all that the infielder doesn't let the ball drop when hears the infield fly rule caught

@coramoor3 8 лет назад

Have a disagree with you, sir. Not an infield fly in my opinion.

@hbk314 6 лет назад

Well, you're wrong.

@billcook4768 6 месяцев назад

I know I’m 10 years late, but I don’t understand the controversy. It’s a crystal clear infield fly rule call. (1) men in 1st and 2nd (2) less than two outs (3) fly ball (4) could be caught be infielder with ordinary effort. Should have been called by the umpire immediately, before the miscommunication even happened.

@KarazolaX 4 месяца назад

He moved 20 feet out to the point where he was camped under it out in left field. That's not ordinary effort. The whole spirit of the rule is to protect the runners from an unfair force out if the ball isn't caught. They have to stand on the base, because they can't advance without tagging if the ball is caught. But if the ball ISN'T caught, and the fielder deliberately drops it, then they can throw to 2nd and 3rd for two free force outs, because the runners had to stay on their bases and would never make it to their respective bases. But the application of the rule here does the opposite of its intention: It punishes the running team by turning what seems to be an error on the defenders into an out for Atlanta. This turns a rule meant to protect runners into a rule that protects the fielders from a baffling mistake. Atlanta should rightfully be able to capitalize on the cardinals' error, but because they misapplied a rule that was supposed to protect them, they are instead being harmed by this rule.

@jdtreharne 3 месяца назад

20ft is absolutely ordinary effort. And the whole point of the rule is that it has to be called before the infielder has a chance to make an error

@parklloyd6690 5 лет назад

Okay. Runners on first and second with fewer than two outs. In that situation, under the rules, the infield fly rule is in effect. The umpires know this, and generally signal to each other to remind and make sure everyone is aware. When the ball is hit up, the umpire is required to call it immediately, not wait to see where it lands. Language from Rule 2.00: "An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort . . . ." "When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare "Infield Fly" for the benefit of the runners." From the commentary to the rule: "The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire's judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire's judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately." Important points: The ump must call it immediately. (Says so in two places.) So where the ball lands isn't as important as the initial trajectory (i.e. not a grounder, not a bunt, and not a ball that's clearly going out to the outfield). Here, the ump saw it go up (i.e. not down and not a line drive) and made the call right away. And note that the shortstop drifted out and was in position to make the catch. He moved because he thought the LF was going to make the play, but he could have made the catch "with ordinary effort." The rule doesn't require that the ball land in the infield. The umps got the call right. The outcome of the play may have sucked for the Braves, but it looks like the umps made the right call. Cheers.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 5 лет назад

The rule does not require the umpire to call for an infield fly immediately. It says that _once it becomes apparent that it will be an infield fly,_ then the call should be made immediately. The call is made when the infielder gets under the ball, squared to home plate, arms raised. At this point, it is apparent that mere ordinary effort was required of the infielder, and at that point, the infield fly rule was immediately invoked. In fact, I believe that when the umpire made it known it would be an infield fly, the infielder thought his outfielder was calling him off and that's why he bailed at the last moment. Really, the infield fly rule can be invoked any time before a play is made on the ball. The purpose of announcing the call is to alert runners on base that forces have been removed should the ball land uncaught; they do not have to run. The call was certainly made with plenty of time to make such runners aware of the call.

@parklloyd6690 5 лет назад

@@willoughbykrenzteinburg Fair point. I was more responding to the people who said that it didn't land in the infield so it couldn't have been an infield fly. But you're right that it doesn't have to be called the second the ball leaves the bat, and also the ump doesn't have to wait to see where it lands. The outcome still sucks for the Braves fans, but I think we agree it was the right call. Cheers.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 5 лет назад

@@parklloyd6690 Yeah, we agree it was the right call, and we also agree that the outcome was unfortunate. It's just bad luck. Cheers.

@reinodehyrule8726 4 года назад

Major League Baseball's Official Baseball Rules specifies that an infield fly is a fair fly ball that "can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort." Rule 2.00 (Ordinary Effort) defines this standard as "the effort that a fielder of average skill at a position in that league or classification of leagues should exhibit on a play, with due consideration given to the condition of the field and weather conditions."

@jpsned 5 лет назад

Actually, the rule doesn't say that the ball needs to be in the infield, only that it's possible for an infielder to catch it. It looked to me like he was ready to catch it, and then he reneged because he thought the outfielder was going to get it. So from that point of view, the call is correct.

@indycastletonjonahinarizon8380 5 лет назад

James Sn and with miscommunication, they should have NOT been rewarded an out. HORRIBLE CALL

@jpsned 4 года назад

@@indycastletonjonahinarizon8380 Part of the rule is that the infielder needs to be camped under the ball and he has to be able to catch it with ordinary effort. I don't see those elements being a part of this play. Adding those two factors to the equation, you're right, it was the wrong call.

@SauceBoss127 8 лет назад

"This is embarrassing for the Atlanta fans"... NO THE FUCK IT'S NOT!!! That was a bullshit call.

@TheTigerfan99 8 лет назад

+SauceBoss127 "Let's respond by throwing shit onto the field because that'll change the call"

@johnSmith-qp1rx 8 лет назад

+TheTigerfan99 I wondered if the call was upheld only because of the fans throwing trash, because they didn't want to encourage that sort of thing

@wittybanter96 8 лет назад

+TheTigerfan99 Any crowd of 100k plus people would react that way regardless of sport or fanbase

@ImFaded_ 8 лет назад

+Justin Winters it wasnt a crowd of 100k lmao

@NilsDunlop 8 лет назад

Had stopped watching baseball for a couple of years so this incident went past me until now. This was an absolute steal. That umpire shouldn't be allowed to referee any games not even 2 year old tee ball.

@alanhess9306 8 лет назад

Lugiarocker, Jerkoffs like you should not be allowed to comment on baseball rules...ever.

@NilsDunlop 8 лет назад

Alan Hess Appreciate the insult, especially since it isn't based on any logic, do you think the call was correct?

@benn454 9 лет назад

Braves fan: *throws garbage on the field* Cardinals fan: LOL

@1Motoko 4 года назад

This is beyond ridiculous, whoever ump this call should be fired immediately, and the other umps who let it stand shouldve also been fired.

@kennethmiro6955 4 года назад

The delay from the cleanup completely killed any momentum the Braves could have salvaged

@teeeeeveeeee314 9 лет назад

They called it that way because 'it's the Cardinals'!

@LittleBenjaminNeocon183 6 лет назад

I'm a braves fan and that call was horrible but throwing trash on the field is classless and puts the players and other fans in a dangerous situation.

@sheefra7731 8 лет назад

This is absolutely right. The rule says that it's an infield fly if in the infield or BY AN INFIELDER. The infielder could have made that catch easily, so the infield fly rule applies.

@protoman1365 8 лет назад

+sheefra There wasn't an infielder easily able to catch the ball on that play. If the ball was in the outfield but Freese was able to catch it easily but didn't, then I could understand. And I hate the Braves.

@protoman1365 8 лет назад

+Proto Man Scratch that, the shortstop was under it. Ignore what I said. I was led to believe that he should've been camped under it though for it to count as "easily catchable", and he wasn't, though.

@inlinechris Год назад

Still a 100% correct call according to the rules

@ontherooftop3367 Год назад

Still 100% untouched, uncaught, and not ever in reach of the pursuing infielder while the outfielder (with a better chance) slowed to a spectator.

@Breadman22 Год назад

Chris, you are 100% correct brother. People just mad.

@4thand3 Год назад

@Breadman22 there's a right to be mad it's one of the worst calls ever in baseball game. Up there with Jim Joyces call

@Breadman22 Год назад

@skie And yet, not you or anyone else can explain why. It was the literal definition of what can constitute as an infield fly. Learn the rule and you'll begin to understand. You don't even have to catch the ball

@Breadman22 Год назад

@@4thand3 go learn the infield fly rule and then tell me how this is one of the worst calls in baseball. I'll wait... I bet you don't even know that if at the start of the play you have outfielders that are established as infielders, they count as infielders...

@placeholdermcgavinport5343 Год назад

Its not embarassing at all when fans throw things on the field. Its downright entertaining. Deserved in this case. I don't think many people are sitting on their high horse thinking 'oh my god this is so outrageous that they are pissed off and supporting their team during a clear injustice'

@easymoneyvicp 9 лет назад

The worst call in postseason history. In a one game playoff an epic failure. Braves were robbed at a huge moment in the game

@impittsburghpiratesfandont7867 5 лет назад

victor perez what about the one where the kid Jeffrey Maier took the ball out of Tarascos glove and the ump called it a home run for Derek Jeter in the ‘96 ALCS? I think that’s the worst call in postseason history lol

@dawgsfan1196 5 лет назад

No, there's been worse

@AlonsoRules 8 лет назад

learning the game and in my view, that's not an infield fly

@cameronm2877 8 лет назад

Where's Greg Gibson the home plate umpire when you need him. Fuck sakes.

@naswii4360 5 лет назад

Me being a Marlins fan, regardless of rivalry, this was a very bad call. I think Atlanta would have won if this didn’t happen.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 5 лет назад

What specifically was bad about it? Let me guess....the ball was in the outfield... is that your argument?

@naswii4360 5 лет назад

Willoughby Krenzteinburg actually yes. How is it an infield fly rule in the outfield? It’s not like it was on the edge, it was already way in the grass.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 5 лет назад

@@naswii4360 The only criteria is whether an infielder can make a play on the ball with ordinary effort. The fact that it is in the outfield is irrelevant. Do you honestly think the umpire didnt realize the ball was in the outfield? Come on..

@StsFiveOneLima 5 лет назад

@@willoughbykrenzteinburg By your logic, if the infielder had not gone for it at all, yielding to the outfield, the rule would still have applied. That's basically retarded.

@indycastletonjonahinarizon8380 5 лет назад

Willoughby Krenzteinburg stop talking, you’re so wrong on so many levels

@mikebond195 8 лет назад

my issue is that on a infield fly the umpire has to call it immediately. this wasnt called until the ball was almost on the ground

@SamtheBravesFan 5 лет назад

I haven't watched a playoff game since this. You would have thought Brooks Conrad/Mike Dunn would have done that, but nope. This is what did it.

@jeffrowisdabest 2 года назад

Lifelong Cardinals fan. Worst playoff call in decades. We didn't want to win like this.

@AdventuresinBackpacking 8 лет назад

If the shortstop (or any infielder) squares his shoulders up with the infield BEFORE catching the fly, the UMPIRE, by definition, will call "INFIELD FLY!" I'm not saying I like the call at all, but I see the reason why it was called.

@jackglenn2516 8 лет назад

This game happened on my birthday. It was the WORST birthday ever! ;) On top of that, I was sick and my dad got me tickets to the NLDS as a birthday present. I was upset that night.

@revinevan87 9 лет назад

This is what convinced me that the Cardinals were the umpires' pets and that they expanded the wild card for the cards. They think that the cards can get into the post-season if given another playoff spot below the wild card and then when that win is threatened, the umpires make a horrendous call in favor of their little pet cards.

@danielr1843 6 лет назад

I was sitting in the right field foul area behind the foul pole at this game with 4 of my friends. Chipper was my alltime favorite. This hurt so bad, i lost my voice yelling bullshit at that ump. Had it not been a playoff game he wouldnt have even been out there. This one will hurt forever.

@chrisanderson1809 8 лет назад

God that is a bad call.

@Mgruz13 5 лет назад

I’m a Braves fan....but according to the rules, the right call

@nathanculli 7 лет назад

im a cardinals fan and this i know that was a bad call

@timhurst1350 6 лет назад

Bertie Blue Nope.

@GeorgeDubya43 6 лет назад

Bertie Blue how was it correct explain

@treymurschell2589 11 месяцев назад

9 years later. And still an infield fly

@chialpha8450 11 месяцев назад

11 yrs ago (2012)...and still an insufficiently tracked (Howitzer) fly ball to catch. Lead runner Uggla knew it standing 30 ft off 2nd..easy stroll to 3rd. All the Holliday loafer could do was pick up ball and eat it.

@Brooklyn3955 6 лет назад

LOLOLOL - where did these umpires learn the game. Horrific.

@SenorSmeeth 7 лет назад

I've been a diehard Cardinals fan my entire life. And, the Cards were up by three with one out, so it's not highly likely the Braves would've tied or won..... But that call absolutely sucked. I'd be pissed off to.

@paullentz1972 2 года назад

Bases loaded with 1 out...is much different than runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs.

@JT29501 4 года назад

Regardless of how much this shouldn't have been called an infield fly, was it determined at all whether the calling of the infield fly is actually what confused the fielders? If that was the case, this whole thing is much less of an injustice, as the umpires would have both caused and solved the problem..

@Kartkid024 3 года назад

I find it hard to believe considering the ump was in the opposite direction and the fact he was already starting to move away before the call was made. Not to mention he was never fully under it to start with. I think he realized he wasn't going to get it and just simply looked for help from his fielder.

@scottyp2505 5 лет назад

That call made no sense, I was in a college bar when this happened the place went insane

@Marwarluigi 6 лет назад

That should’ve been an error due to miscommunication.

@Marwarluigi 6 лет назад

Phallus E that should have been an error on the outfielder

@hfontanez98 9 лет назад

I have no dog on this fight, but that was a HORRIBLE call.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

hfontanez98 What makes it a horrible call? What part of the rule excludes this from being subject to the infield fly rule?

@hfontanez98 9 лет назад

Willoughby Krenzteinburg Ordinary effort should exclude it from being called. Running something like 75 feet to get to the ball is not really ordinary when you are running backwards. In fact, the umpire who called the ball FAILED to immediately call for the infield fly as the rule stipulates (Go to 1:22 on the video and judge for yourself). Instead, he waited until the shortstop appeared to be under the ball (after running about 75 feet) and THEN signaled for the infield fly. Of course, because an infield fly call is not reviewable, you cannot argue that 1) the effort wasn't ordinary, and 2) he didn't IMMEDIATELY called for the infield fly as stated in the rules. You can look up the rule yourself here: mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/definition_terms_2.jsp

@dakotahredden77 8 лет назад

One of the worst calls ever in my opinion I remember this like yesterday

@brawlkuribohabridged 5 лет назад

And now this ump is gonna call the braves game again

@sean2015 3 года назад

The infield fly rule exists for one reason and that is to prevent fielders from intentionally letting a ball drop in to turn a double play whenever there are runners on first and second or bases loaded. From that depth of the outfield it would've been impossible to throw out two baserunners. So the IFR is absolutely not applicable here.

@chialpha8450 3 года назад

Since lead runner D. Uggla could see ball was ticketed to drop and standing 30 ft off 2nd, he had a Sunday stroll to 3rd. There was no throwing out even one baserunner.

@sean2015 3 года назад

@@chialpha8450 yeah I was actually about to edit my comment after watching the replay. They didn’t have any play at all.

@Breadman22 Год назад

It is not determined by whether or not they can get the base runner out. So then if he was 30 get off the base and the SS didn't think he was getting waved off and caught the ball, then he's unable to tag at 2nd. Rule applies all the way around. You're adding in your personal opinion outside of what is fact. You might not like it, but it was correct. Don't spoil it by inserting your own personal anecdotes to something that is clearly defined

@TerminalSports45 6 лет назад

this is why you don't add extra umpires

@davidsonberrier7511 3 года назад

If this is an infield fly we should see about 10 of them called per game

@usctrojans001 5 лет назад

That Bad Call is up there with the WS Yankee Reggie Jackson Interference Call Debacle!

@Mastahcheech 10 лет назад

"This is embarrassing for braves fans." No. That call was embarrassing...

@originalshamus 10 лет назад

they can both be embarrassing. and they both were.

@thatrandomkid1143 10 лет назад

That was the right call.The infield fly rule is if an infielder can make a popfly catch the umpires will call a infield fly to avoid an infielder purposely dropping the ball to get a double or triple play because you are not allowed to purposely drop catches to affect the outcome of the game.

@lolitswhiteslang 10 лет назад

Call it an outfield fly rule then ^__^

@larrymires4636 10 лет назад

It's called an infield fly because it could have been caught by an infielder, not because it's in the infield.

@larrymires4636 10 лет назад

The Braves' fans should be embarrassed. They don't know the rule and instead of accepting they lost the game because they were outplayed it's just easier to blame the umpires, even when they got the call right.

@joshuasimmons8160 2 года назад

I can finally watch this in peace after the Braves won the World Series

@danielm.5163 2 года назад

congrats yall deserve it

@joshuasimmons8160 2 года назад

@@danielm.5163 thanks!

@HipRapBlack7 2 года назад

Same here.. This haunted me for so long

@ZeroVirus21 2 года назад

I can’t. This still pisses me off, especially with it being against the Cards… but it isn’t as bad now that we got our World Series dub.

@bilyonarelifestile2226 2 года назад

correct call. infielder should have caught it with ordinary effort

@cameronm2877 8 лет назад

Where's Greg Gibson the home plate umpire when you need him. Fuck sakes.

@DuckW1thLuck 8 лет назад

Ikr

@avneetn.7123 8 лет назад

@alexbinkley5479 7 лет назад

remember he is in LA I believe motioning to both players

@grandoof8037 7 лет назад

No, he's in St. Louis motioning to both players.

@Homerj2935 6 лет назад

Alex Binkley I laughed way too hard at this

@socalchargers 5 лет назад

i'm mad cause it was Chipper's last game, what a terrible way for him to go out

@jamedlock83 3 года назад

That's his own fault. He could have decided to come back for another year.

@aaroncarrancho7959 3 года назад

@@jamedlock83 not the point but whatever

@bigredhippie397 2 года назад

@@jamedlock83 that's Kentuckys mindset when they lose in the round of 32 every year

@Scottydontbutscottydoes 5 месяцев назад

He also went like 0-4 and had a crucial error

@caleykruse9852 8 лет назад

i'm not even a Braves fan and this pissed me off completely changed the momentum of the game

@ticklemonster2909 8 лет назад

Thorin Jordan Thats what its like being an Atlanta sports fan.

@kurumauzamaki2731 6 лет назад

It was already 3-6 how’s it change the momentum and in the 8th

@wittybanter96 6 лет назад

Chipper comes up with the bases loaded and one out in the 8th. What do you mean how?

@kurumauzamaki2731 6 лет назад

WittyBanter 96 it was his last game meaning he’s old and older players lose their ability to hit like they used to also he didn’t even score a run in or would’ve been able to even if the bases were loaded

@TheGamingRepublic 6 лет назад

Kuruma Uzamaki doesn't matter because he's old and it's his last game. He's still a threat at the plate no matter what. The energy in the stadium when I seen this game live especially when the braves got things going in the eight was incredible. Cardinals were on their heels and after the bad call, it gave the momentum back to st Louis to be able to get out of the inning.

@shipofthesun 8 лет назад

One of the worst calls in MLB history.

@CBrandonChapman 8 лет назад

Why?

@blarsonjr 8 лет назад

They nailed it. Got it right. Taking heads clueless.

@CBrandonChapman 8 лет назад

+blarsonjr I'm not sure why it drives me so nuts, but it does. Maybe it's not so much that these folks are clueless, but they so brazenly act as if they aren't.

@renardmigrant 8 лет назад

But if you read the rules, it's an infield fly. The umpire doesn't have the option to not apply the rules.

@CBrandonChapman 8 лет назад

+Martin Gardner I think you're adding to what I say, right? Like, agreeing with me? I realized my last comment could be misconstrued as me saying the umpires clueless, but I was responding to someone else and talking about the people who were chiming in without having any clue on the actual rule.

@brimacki 10 лет назад

The infield fly rule is supposed to protect base runners, not fielders.

@csantoi 6 месяцев назад

exactly. there is zero reason an IFF call should benefit the defense more than the offense.

@captainc7160 5 месяцев назад

Testing system

@DaleC1980 12 дней назад

Exactly. The IFF is to protect a cheap double play. They didn’t even get a single out.

@sethwatson6678 8 лет назад

You know who could have made the right call.....Greg Gibson ,the home plate umpire

@jll9916 8 лет назад

But he was too busy motioning to both players to make the call

@RioRiver829 8 лет назад

+Jesse Lindell As the Dodgers were celebrating in the dugout.

@pdp6692 6 лет назад

Jeff Kellogg was the Home Plate Umpire.

@bandits13 6 лет назад

PD P it’s a joke look it up

@jackson5116 5 лет назад

@@pdp6692 look up game 6 of the 2013 NLCS, and you'll get that joke.

@garrison0532082 6 лет назад

"This is embarrassing" No, that umpire crew was embarrassing

@luissantoyo27 5 лет назад

garrison0532082 both.

@ICF31 5 лет назад

Joel Zand that’s not an infield fly rule

@ICF31 5 лет назад

Joel Zand just bc you’re an umpire doesn’t mean you’re good at it

@mikegallegos7 4 года назад

You need to learn MLB Rules cupcake ...

@mikegallegos7 4 года назад

@@ICF31 If you aren't an ump, and you don't know the rules, what do you rely on for interpretation, osmosis ???

@ryanwhite94 6 лет назад

that time I tried to throw my Tv onto Turner Field...from my living room

@TR_145 3 года назад

If a correct call makes you want to throw your TV onto Turner Field I'm curious to see how you'd react to an incorrect call?

@Conr328 3 года назад

@@TR_145 in what way that was correct he’d have to dive to get that ball that was so deep the left fielder wasn’t even playing shallow

@TR_145 3 года назад

@@Conr328 Ordinary Effort- the SS got back there without difficulty and had AMPLE time to make the catch. He then gave way to the LF and the ball fell between them. Ordinary effort is the key phrase here. You should try having a look in the rule book- you might learn something.

@captainc7160 3 года назад

@@TR_145 Ordinary effort includes a fielder positioning himself FOR the catch..."exhibiting what he should". Kozma didn't identify the correct location. The "rule book" description of O/E is but one sentence that can be broadly interpreted. Kozma also didn't know where his LF was.

@KartKing4ever 9 лет назад

I would buy shit just to throw on the field.

@farfromsubtle 9 лет назад

KartKing4ever Why buy shit when you can just shit and throw it on the field?

@KartKing4ever 9 лет назад

***** Good point.

@lavarball7143 9 лет назад

KartKing4ever or you can just run on to the field and take a big crap and throw it at the umpire for a direct hit

@davidbentley4417 9 лет назад

Not in Atlanta it cost 10 bucks for a bottle of coke

@hfontanez98 9 лет назад

David Bentley Best 10 bucks ever spent in a Braves game.

@treychaffin8839 8 лет назад

I've never been prouder of our fans than for littering that field with garbage just like the Umpires did. Joe can shove it.

@DanceWithDoge 8 лет назад

idk man...groundskeepers were the ones that paid for the shit call. kind of a raw deal for them

@wyssmaster 7 лет назад

An infield-fly was the right call, though. The rule only says that it needs to be catchable by an infielder with ordinary effort; if you watch Kozma the whole way through the play, he's jogging. If he doesn't get called off by Holliday (others have said he may have heard the umpire signaling and got confused) then he gets there in plenty of time.

@JamiLeeD 6 лет назад

Well, if the Braves fans had class and took the call. Don't blame the people running the stadium for the call.

@trey87 6 лет назад

I believe the fans should have hit the umpire with the bottles.

@GeorgeDubya43 6 лет назад

wyssmaster you’re stupid, the infielder had to go way out to the outfield, so you’re telling me that he could’ve been on the warning track and INFIELD FLY would’ve been called? They need to change the name of that rule if that’s the case

@javanroach1687 3 года назад

I was there. I was 8 I was hit with a beer bottle. I grabbed the beer bottle and threw it on the field.

@sauzxy4k765 3 года назад

i kinda believe you but idk man

@ontherooftop8509 2 месяца назад

@@sauzxy4k765 Testing the system

@chialpha8450 2 месяца назад

Testing the system

@DAMNbyrnz35 9 лет назад

Still one of the worst calls I've ever seen in my life.

@alanhess9306 9 лет назад

Correct call. Pull your head out.

@AnEternalEnigma 9 лет назад

Alan Hess Incorrect call. The infield fly rule is designed to stop the defense from letting the ball fall intentionally to get a double play. There is no way on earth that, unless the Braves baserunners just stood completely frozen in time, they were doubling up two runners on this play considering how far out the ball was from the infield.

@JSam21 9 лет назад

AnEternalEnigma The rule, as written, only requires that the ball be able to be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort. It doesn't matter how deep the ball is.

@danilobonnet4900 9 лет назад

Justin Sampson that was not ordinary effort And if you still admit it was the correct call then your straight biased and

@brimmster 9 лет назад

BigJim35 Worst call since the 91 WS when Ron gant was pulled off the base..I dont care who you are if you know anything about baseball at all, that was a horrid call

@Pandaoniman 9 лет назад

1:42 How is this embarrassing to Atlanta fans? That was the worst call in the history of baseball and the people in the stands made it known.

@carramrod42069ify 9 лет назад

How so? Just because you don't know the rules makes it a terrible call?

@RadicalDaveNFriends 9 лет назад

Pandaoniman Was it a bad call? Yeah. Was it the worst call in the history of baseball? No. Relax your hyperbole. How about Armando Galarraga's blown perfect game by Jim Joyce? What about Jeffrey Maier 1996 ALCS Game 1? And, hell, what about "The Call" in 1985 where we Cardinals fans ourselves were screwed over? These things happen. Just gain some perspective.

@dtakings2018 9 лет назад

+jason beswick are you dumb. Whether you know the rules or not, the players, coaches and announcers are all calling bullshit so you know its a bullshit call

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

DTA Kings Quote the part of the rule that makes this a "bullshit" call.

@teammagmadaniel4672 9 лет назад

This was not the worst not even close

@AndyStubblefield 8 лет назад

From a Cards fan, this call was terrible.

@johnnyfive222 8 лет назад

+Andy Stubblefield Deffiantly sadly this call was a turning point in the game. The Braves were gaining momentum and was coming back big time. I think this is the call that got the replay in baseball right? Unfortunately for the Braves and fortunate for your cardinals lol it wasn't here.

@TPTGopher 6 лет назад

As a baseball fan it was terrible; as someone who enjoys seeing bad things happen to bad people, it was beautiful.

@hbk314 5 лет назад

@@johnnyfive222 No, this call didn't bring in replay. This isn't even a reviewable call under the rules of replay. This call wasn't even incorrect, so there's nothing to even fix.

@johnnyfive222 5 лет назад

TPTGopher what are you talking about bad people ?

@johnnyfive222 5 лет назад

hbk314 Yes it was it was very incorrect

@RoyalRedbird 7 лет назад

I'm a Cardinals fan and even I thought this was a HORRIBLE Call, man did we get away with one..

@mikeloosemore6301 2 года назад

Another person who dosen’t know the rules

@captainc7160 2 года назад

@@mikeloosemore6301 Another example of a commentator with a degree in EWV...empty words/vain rhetoric, but perhaps needs a refresher course in language arts with emphasis in spelling..."doesn't" is correct.

@mikeloosemore6301 2 года назад

@@captainc7160 When you try proving someone wrong by talking about an entirely different subject, you have no clue what is going on

@captainc7160 2 года назад

@@mikeloosemore6301 So far (on this thread) you haven't stated any facts to support any clues either. So back to the play...which had two fielders in pursuit of a fly ball, neither could track it well enough for the catch. Therefore, it lands "neatly in the outfield"...like an eight-iron to the 17th green. What is the rule (or definition) at hand?....it's how well "ordinary effort" fits the picture...not very well based on the effort of these fielders (especially Holliday...who slowed to a light trot and watched Kozma's unsuccessful attempt). It's now your turn to say something relevant...if you can think of anything.

@mikeloosemore6301 2 года назад

@Dees Nuts first of all, they could have easily gotten a force out at second or third, and when you say the umpire should rule it immediately, that means as soon as the criteria for infield fly is met in this situation. Kozma was able to get camped under the ball for a good 3 seconds and was not running back the entire time. You can have your opinion, but this call in my opinion was correct

@kkevin8826 4 года назад

Here after the Nationals call just to remind everyone what a clown Holbrook is

@galactic_clashx4056 4 года назад

IKR

@Andy-wt3nb 4 года назад

Why does he even get to ump postseason games.

@hbk314 4 года назад

He got both calls right... assuming you're referring to the Infield Fly call above and the Runner's Lane Interference call on Turner.

@masterbokey5127 5 лет назад

7 years later it is 2019 this is our year and he is umpiring the braves vs cardinals again at home this is going to be interesting Never mind 13-1 in the 3rd inning I thought it was r year always next year

@jacobsikking914 5 лет назад

Master Bokey lol I’m here watching this video because I saw he was the crew chief for the braves cardinals game

@badjr0 5 лет назад

@@jacobsikking914 lol same here!

@brendanosullivan1229 5 лет назад

Master Bokey the espn article got me here with this incident being the main topic lol

@setadrft 5 лет назад

Same lol

@NoName-bh4pf 5 лет назад

"this is our year" LOL

@TheGdogg66 8 лет назад

how can an OUTFIELD umpire call an INFIELD fly rule? lmao dumbest thing ive ever heard

@trizlet 8 лет назад

any umpire can make the call, it's in the rulebook

@TheGdogg66 8 лет назад

+Harry Andrews thats why its the dumbest thing ive ever heard...

@jumperguy9867 8 лет назад

Perhaps if you knew ANYTHING about umpiring, you wouldn't consider it the dumbest thing you have ever heard. Learning the rules might help some as well. You seem to be one of those ignorant ones who think an infield fly (as the rule applies) is a ball hit over the infield. DUMB

@dunzerkug 8 лет назад

The infielder was obviously able to get to the ball with ORDINARY effort so it is infield fly rule.

@RS-tz2zn 8 лет назад

Frith How did you determine it was ordinary effort? If the outfielder had called him off earlier, would that have changed anything? Do you think the infield fly call would still have been made?

@jmhydn58 4 года назад

MLB version of the 'tuck rule'.

@zachellinthorpe1277 3 года назад

That's a great way of putting it. Technically, both calls were correct, though both still draw ire from fans. By the way, this was a correct infield fly call. The rules say nothing about the ball having to be in the infield. They just say that an infielder has to be able to catch it with normal effort, with runners on 1st and 2nd and less than 2 outs.

@niclazzari2309 4 месяца назад

@@zachellinthorpe1277But that wasn’t ordinary effort…look how far back Kozma went and he still missed it. The infield fly rule is there to protect the baserunners not the fielders.

@Bp2181991 2 года назад

8 years later, the Braves are finally World Series Champions. So many years of pain and disappointment preceded last night's victory.

@alexdwyer7677 Год назад

Go Phillies!!!

@stevenroberts614 Год назад

@@alexdwyer7677 Yea Go 1-5 to start the year Phillies!

@ryanbrown4401 Год назад

@@stevenroberts614 doesn't matter how you start especially in NL East

@stevenroberts614 Год назад

@@ryanbrown4401 Correction to your comment, "It doesn't matter how (THE BRAVES) start, in the NL east." That is because the Braves absolutely OWN the NL EAST.

@johns.8220 Год назад

And they won it in spite of a disastrous "rebuild" that needlessly prolonged their chances at WS contention. Very impressive win.

@coopermaxedon8460 5 лет назад

who’s here after the cardinals meet the braves again in the nlds?

@bosshoggish1 5 лет назад

ME!

@yeetyskeety507 5 лет назад

Cooper Maxedon and the guy who made this call is the crew chief in the series

@jackson5116 5 лет назад

Wild Card game in 2012 though, so this time it's not that stupid one-then-done, so calls like this wouldn't affect everything (unless it's a 2-2 series in game 5, and by that point both will have had their chances repeatedly).

@benjamin29471 5 лет назад

Sam Holbrook is. He's the crew chief in this series! I was so angry when I saw that. Haha

@coopermaxedon8460 5 лет назад

Jack Son it’s a 2-2 series 👀

@jacobbecker1905 9 лет назад

I'm a serious Cards fan but I could not believe this when it happened, I started laughing. Atlanta got robbed.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

Jacob Becker Yeah - but not because the wrong call was made. It is absolutely, without question - the proper call according to the rules. It is unfortunate that the invoking of the rule actually benefited the defense - when it is supposed to prevent the defense from gaining an advantage. There is nothing anyone can do. The infield fly rule has to be called before any play is made on the ball - otherwise, it's purpose is defeated. The call needs to be made for the benefit of the runners, and unfortunately, that is obviously BEFORE you could learn whether or not it benefits the defense. You can't retroactively negate the call because then forces would be reinstated, and you'd have a giant mess. The good thing is, this VERY RARELY happens (infield fly rule benefits defense).

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

***** How did it not "fit the rules"?

@chrisnelson7320 6 лет назад

If you think that was an infield fly, you have 0 clue on baseball. I've played in college, coached, and umpired.

@ohboyhowdy1373 5 лет назад

It was an error, all day.

@RadicalCaveman 5 лет назад

@@willoughbykrenzteinburg The reason it very rarely happens is that umpires don't ordinarily call it in these situations, even if, depending on the interpretation of "ordinary effort," it's supposed to be called according to the rules.

@AnEternalEnigma 9 лет назад

Braves fans were loaded with passion that night. Everyone knew this had the potential to be Chipper's last game (which it was). Granted, Chipper's huge error on what should have been a routine GIDP did more to lose the game than this, this was still one of the worst calls in the history of baseball. An infield fly rule 200 feet into the outfield? Sure. I could understand why the Braves fans were amped.

@usabro410 9 лет назад

Doesnt matter how far the ball is. The rule is, if the infielder is able to catch it with ordinary effort.

@aaron1981 9 лет назад

kyle kerby Before you answer this...go back and watch it again...no way in hell you call that "ordinary" effort lol

@richnieh 9 лет назад

Astew 95 It was a typical miss communication play...how was that an ordinary effort if you need to communicate at all?

@breckeny1712 9 лет назад

kyle kerby So you're telling me that even if it was on the warning track of the outfield it still would have counted as a infield fly if he had a legitimate chance to catch it?? that makes no sense

@papalog08 9 лет назад

If an infielder is camped under it, it's an infield fly rule, even one foot from the fence. The only reason people got hyped about the call is because of how tbs announcers played it up. The announcers work for the station the team owner owns, they're paid to be biased.

@WesleyAPEX 8 лет назад

I'm glad they threw trash on the field! Thats the only way to make it VERY clear that the ump fucked up.

@CardsTricks42 8 лет назад

Actually, he didn't f up. An Infield Fly is a fair fly ball (not a line drive or bunt) that, in the judgment of the umpire, can be caught by an infielder, pitcher, or catcher with ordinary effort and when there are runners on first and second or first, second, and third and less than two outs." www.wusa.org/page/show/487073-what-is-the-infield-fly-rule-and-why-do-they-have-it-

@emilygiles8125 3 года назад

I love how they said that it was in bad taste for Braves fans to throw things on the field. Imagine if that had had happened to the Yankeee,s, Mets, Red Sox....it would have been mayhem

@DimonGirl Год назад

Seriously!!!

@cubsruleben 4 года назад

world series 2019 game 6 lmao

@badrockxxx 4 года назад

And it was the same ump Holbrook again.

@jonsmith904 9 лет назад

why do you add extra umps for the playoffs? it's pure stupidity, and this was proof of how damaging adding extra umps can be

@richnieh 9 лет назад

I agree with you but It really does not matter though for that play. Even the first base umpire should see it as an error.

@RS-tz2zn 9 лет назад

Jon Smith The extra umps down the lines should only be there for fair/foul, catch/non-catch calls...nothing else...

@puttter 9 лет назад

Jon Smith with replay being in MLB now they should get rid of them extra two. The main reason they were there is fair/foul, fan interference, and homerun calls. All which are reviewable.

@tristanlewis271 6 лет назад

Jon Smith it can be good at times on a foul or soething like that

@markcolby1453 6 лет назад

Is hard to believe there are still comments about this IF controversy (clearly there were grounds for debate). As the commentator with Joe Simpson (R. Darling I think) stated that night..."with extra umpires there may be extra calls"...interesting statement. As for the call, those trying very hard to defend it (including H. Reynolds), many have stated the distance in the outfield (about 55 ft) where the ball dropped should not be considered in whether it was a proper IF, however, the distance does have bearing on the application of "ordinary effort". Once the Cardinal SS planted his feet and looked up and KNEW he had no play, my assessment is that's where the ordinary effort ended, and thus no IF to call. Based on the side angle replay, these runners needed NO "protection" from getting forced or doubled up in the absence of the call. They could have performed handstands on way to the next base. Much too late to harp on, but to close enjoyed J. Simpson's comment the weekend Sun Life Park opened...on one of the games he announced "the 3rd base umpire is Sam Holbrook...hopefully there won't be any infield fly's".

@ifeelallright 9 лет назад

Outfield Fly Rule lol

@dawgsfan1196 5 лет назад

The outfield really doesn't have an effect on the rule as long as the infielder can make an ordinary effort to make the catch which Kozma did not

@lexzone-six9912 4 года назад

Worst call in baseball history.

@Tiger29532 9 лет назад

I'm a cards fan, but this call was complete bullshit...

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

Explosive Magic What about it was bullshit?

@Tiger29532 9 лет назад

Willoughby Krenzteinburg It was in shallow outfield...

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

Explosive Magic And? Are you under the impression that a ball hit in the outfield can't be subject to the infield fly rule? You'd be wrong if that's the case. Perhaps you should take all this energy you're currently using to scream bullshit and target it at the nearest MLB rulebook to educate yourself on the rule.

@warriorspanthersblackhawks4651 9 лет назад

+Willoughby Krenzteinburg its called the INFIELD fly rule for a reason dude. now I know you're probably going to comeback with a 5 paragraph argument against me like you've done to every single other person thats posted in the comment section but I'm sorry to say that nobody believes you or this call and you really need to just shut the fuck up and go do something else lmao

@alanhess9306 9 лет назад

+Flagrant Liam You should read the rule and stop making yourself look like the idiot you are. As long as an infielder can catch the ball with ordinary effort, it is an infield fly no matter where it comes down.

@oliv3rjosh 6 лет назад

I remember I was in my freshman year of college watching this game with the guys.. when this happened we all went into a uproar because we knew that this call just changed the momentum of the game

@corywhite6098 Год назад

same man. this was outrageous.

@adamttown 7 лет назад

Terrible call. Here's why: The infield fly rule is designed to protect the offense from being faked into a double-play. But there is no way a double play could be turned from 80 feet deep into left field. Also, the left fielder was is better position to turn that double play it if were possible; leaving the short-stop's position irrelevant. What's to stop any infielder from, when less than 2 outs and runners on 1st and 2nd or bases loaded, "making an ordinary effort to be under any fly ball into the outfield and not even having to catch the ball? Such a shittastic call.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 7 лет назад

It's the right call. It's just bad luck. The umpires ruled in accordance with the rule - so if there is something wrong here, it is with the rule itself - and plays like this are not so frequent that addressing a rule change is necessary. Again, it's just bad luck. In the vast majority of cases, the infield fly rule works as intended. And if you don't think that a fielder this deep in the outfield could turn a double play if that was the intent, you don't watch much baseball at this level.

@Jdb63 5 лет назад

It doesn't matter what the rule was designed for. The only thing that matters is what the rule actually is. The umps made the right call. If you're mad at anyone it should be the MLB for not restricting the boundaries of the rule

@indycastletonjonahinarizon8380 5 лет назад

Willoughby Krenzteinburg no no it was not the right call

@MrC_316 4 года назад

The ball was nowhere near the infield!!! The shortstop had to make a great effort to get the ball. I heard the rule was that the infielder has to make no effort with the ball being catchable by that infielder in order to use the infield fly rule. This doesn’t hit part of that rule! Wow!

@redrome9 4 года назад

Willoughby Krenzteinburg frick you you stupid idiotic punk

@LGDevilsFan 3 года назад

Well now we have a new bad call to rob the Braves, because now it’s legal to not touch him plate and be safe, and rob the Braves of a win.

@orangeflaws8088 Год назад

One time when I was in high school, we had a game where we had bases loaded with no outs. The batter hit a pop up right in front of the catcher and he missed it and it landed fair, but the umpires didn’t see infield fly, so our runners ran and the catcher stopped on home for the force out. Then our coach was telling the umpire that’s supposed to be an infield fly, because if they said it and our runners still ran, he would’ve been safe at home since it would no longer be a force out. Then the umpire said he did say it, even though everyone on the field knows he didn’t, including the other team. But then the umpire said the run doesn’t score because the catcher tagged him which he did not. So it ended up being a double play when it should’ve been a run scored with one out

@jaylattergrass6307 8 лет назад

Only if Greg Gibsion was At Home Plate

@alexplays1112 8 лет назад

Jay Killa he could have motioned to both players

@elijahburgie6279 8 лет назад

and the dodgers would have been celebrating in their dugout

@JohnnyMidnyte 9 лет назад

The Cardinals pay off umpires The Right Way®

@JohnnyMidnyte 9 лет назад

Louis Greubel The Cardinals curse out anonymous internet folk The Right Way® Oh, and they pay off umpires The Right Way® too. So there's that....

@teammagmadaniel4672 9 лет назад

Braves fan alert

@JohnnyMidnyte 9 лет назад

Cardinals fans make excuses for their cheating team The Right Way®

@teammagmadaniel4672 9 лет назад

Give me one example of the cards cheating

@JohnnyMidnyte 9 лет назад

The Cardinals question the obvious The Right Way®

@bls1999 4 года назад

Sam Holbrook with another horrible call, calling interference on Trea Turner running to 1st in game 6 of the 2019 WS. How does this umpire still have his job???

@bls1999 4 года назад

Hubertus Minerva here's the thing: Gurriel wasn't going to make that play in the first place. Turner didn't "break up" any play. Further, watch ANY right-handed batter run to first base and you'll see how ridiculous this is. Altuve took exactly the same path as Turner multiple times in the series and he didn't get called out. The umpire's judgment is under scrutiny, not the rule.

@forman208 8 лет назад

The fans had every right to litter the field after a horrible, totally unnecessary decision that cost them big time

@jujurussell6076 8 лет назад

No they don't. They could hit someone, and trashing up anything that belongs to the community is WRONG. Braves fans showed nothing, except they have no class.

@bronx15_82 8 лет назад

They have no right to litter the field. The umpires aren't cleaning it up, the braves staff are cleaning it up.

@renardmigrant 8 лет назад

But if you read the rules, it's an infield fly. The umpire doesn't have the option to not apply the rules.

@IkilledColMustard 8 лет назад

so that is like saying: A kid has every right to destroy the house if his or her parents voted for someone they didnt agree with. Stealing 100 pairs of shoes, three TVS, five BlueRay players, burning stores,beating up white people if a police beat up a black person Punching a five year old on the face because he spilled grape juice on your white carpet. Debate me please.

@Top10Peoplz1 8 лет назад

No, Atlanta just has a horrible fan base thats all

@michaeldepinto3562 5 лет назад

that Ball was in left field one of the worst calls in baseball history!

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 5 лет назад

Yeah? And? Do you think the ball being in the outfield prevents it from being an infield fly for the infield fly rule? Do you honestly think that the umpire didn't notice that the ball was in the outfield? Seriously?

@jhawk889 7 лет назад

As a Cardinals fan for my entire life, this is one of the worst calls ever. Would it have affected the game? Perhaps. We'll never know. But I hate the fact that we had got an out because of that

@MrFetus1 6 лет назад

you are 100% wrong.

@hbk314 6 лет назад

Joseph Kleen | How is an objectively correct call "one of the worst calls ever"? Learn the rule.

@indycastletonjonahinarizon8380 5 лет назад

MrFetus1 no you are

@kevinconner2425 9 лет назад

I am not a Braves fan but that was one of the worst calls I have seen. That was clearly the middle of the outfield.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

kevin connerYet another "backseat" umpire who has zero knowledge of the rules. The ball can be hit to the outfield and still be ruled an infield fly for the purposes of this rule. The ball can even be caught BY AN OUTFIELDER, and the rule would still apply - - as long as an infielder COULD HAVE made a play on the ball with ordinary effort. The argument that the ball was in the outfield is irrelevant. ANYONE can see that it was in the outfield. Do you really think that an MLB umpire missed that? No. What you are missing is that the fact that the ball is in the outfield is irrelevant.

@kevinconner2425 9 лет назад

Oh golly gee Willoughby. If the Braves played the game under protest. Do you think a major league manager would do that knowing the rules. That was clearly an outfield play. He missed the ball. Its more likely an error and he is on base. Wow you are just so awesome.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

kevin conner "Do you think a major league manager would do that knowing the rules." Yes, I do. If you don't know otherwise, you don't watch much baseball. Games are played under protest for a variety of reasons. The manager's beef was that the intent of the rule is to prevent the defense from exploiting a situation where they could turn an easy double play. The problem is that the invoking of the rule BENEFITED the defense. I would agree whole-heartedly that the rule's intent was not for situations like this. I agree with the manager, and I would have played under protest as well. However, to win the protest would have required a rewording of the rule - because as it is worded, the correct call was made. By the way, I'll use your same logic. You asked if I thought that the manager would have played under protest knowing the rules. How about this question : Did he win his protest? No. So, do you think the league would have upheld the call when the improper call was made? Use some common sense. The rule specifically states that the infield fly rule shall be ruled as such on the sole basis of whether or not an infielder COULD HAVE caught the ball with ordinary effort - NOT by some arbitrary 'line' such as the outfield grass or any other criteria. So the fact that it was in the outfield, or "so far" into the outfield is irrelevant because - BY RULE - the area where the ball is - is categorically omitted from consideration by the rule. This could not be made ANY CLEARER. And sometime, the managers don't know the rules. It's possible. And if this isn't enough for you, how about a quote from the infielder who was in this play? "I bailed at the last second. I thought [the ruling] was the right call. I am an infielder. I went back and was camped under it. I just bailed at last second."

@kevinconner2425 9 лет назад

Gee Willy. I didn't insult you. Of course games are played under protest for a variety of reasons. That ball was clearly over a 100 feet in the outfield. Distance from home plate to deepest infield at second is 127/feet. Clearly in outfield territory. Not infiled. It was an outfield play. Turn an easy double play. If the ball was more shallow I could agree with you but not that deep. It was an outfield play the infield fly rule not in effect.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 9 лет назад

kevin conner You aren't listening. WHERE THE BALL IS - is irrelevant - by rule. The ONLY criteria is whether or not an infielder could have caught it with ordinary effort. This is the last time I'm saying it. If you don't get it, you don't get it. You're being muted.

@TheMchugh996 7 лет назад

Orioles fan here. Love when fans and players take action against these terrible umpires. Keep it up!!

@bobby2367 7 лет назад

This was one of the worst moments I've ever experienced as a Braves fan. This was just about the turning point where we turned into one of the worst teams in baseball. This really haunts me to this day. I was literally heartbroken for several months after this, and this unfortunately was the end of Chipper's career. sad. And the really bad part is that the protest was ignored by Joe Torre. I still am a little shaken over this 5 years later.

@Shawn6751 Год назад

Braves won the NL East the very next season.

@DavidRobinson-wy7lx Год назад

@@Shawn6751😂😂😂

@nathanielkahn9681 4 года назад

The announcer says he made the call immediately, but he didn't until the last second when the shortstop was bailing out...

@rthorat 3 года назад

The shortstop bailed out because he heard the umpire yell, "Infield Fly!" It was loud, so he mistook that for the left fielder calling him off. Even the announcers noted this once. Everyone pretends this didn't happen, but it's clear from the replay that is what happened. This is the dumbest "controversy" in baseball history.

@nathanielkahn9681 2 года назад

@@rthorat BS, that is complete fake news!!! He bailed out because he thought Holiday had it! That is a total lie man, its not good to lie

@Scottydontbutscottydoes 5 месяцев назад

@@rthorateven if that’s true, the umpire waiting until the last second to call it. The rule states it should be immediate

@rthorat 5 месяцев назад

@@Scottydontbutscottydoes The rule is that the umpire calls it immediately upon making a determination it applies. This is what the umpire did.

@nathanielkahn9681 4 месяца назад

@@rthorat No he did not call it immediately, all these years later and you are STILL a liar

@benc.2671 8 лет назад

I'm a huge Cardinals fan. But that was wrong call. It was miscommunication between them.

@c.5366 8 лет назад

It doesn't matter if it was a miss communication and infielder was able to make and easy play on the ball it's an infield fly it doesn't have to be in the infield to be an infield fly

@ufcmanable 8 лет назад

+See See that makes no sense \

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 8 лет назад

ufcmanable It doesn't have to make sense to YOU. He's right. Read the damn rule.

@ufcmanable 8 лет назад

I know he's right but the rule doesn't make sense to anyone. Whats the point of calling it the infield fly rule if you are gonna call it when its in the outfield.

@willoughbykrenzteinburg 8 лет назад

ufcmanable What would you call it? The easy double play pop up rule? It's just a term. It relates to infielders and whether or not they can make a play on the ball, so maybe you could call it the infielder fly rule. It's just a term. If you know the rule, it shouldn't make a difference what you call it.

@juliantorres3239 4 года назад

As a cardinals fan I'm not even surprised that Pete kozma dropped that ball

@captainc7160 3 года назад

Testing the system

@M1IRONMIKE 3 года назад

He didn't drop it. He was called off by Holliday.

@chialpha8450 3 года назад

@@M1IRONMIKE Affirm, ball dropped in LF like a pitching wedge lands on the 15th green. Kozma didn't ever locate where this TX Leaguer would come down, so he didn't have anything to drop. And contrary to what many incompetent commentators have claimed, the Holliday loafer didn't "call off" Kozma. He just slowed with his glove to his chest and watched ball drop...very poor effort by a veteran outfielder.