No. 117 - Oil Lamps - Alternate Fuels For EMERGENCIES

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Welcome to the Camppatton Family Compound, In this video I discuss some EMERGENCY SHORT TERM alternative fuels for lamp oil. Important Points To Remember: 1) These are Emergency Alternate Fuels. 2) Never use Gasoline, Alcohol or other Flammable liquids in Oil Lamps. 3) Only use combustible fuels. 4) Keep flammables away from the lamps. 5) Stock up on lamp oil now while you can so you don't have to worry about running short in an emergency.
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@crazysquirrel9425 2 года назад

I changed all my oil lamp wicks to carbon felt and hand sewn in copper crafting wire into it. Works perfectly. Never burns up or wears out. Copper wire transfers heat down the wick and into the fuel. It is called thermal feedback. Thinner fuel draws up the wick better. Thinner fuel also vaporizes faster and more efficiently. This is why in the hot summer time you have little problem using oil lamps but in cold weather they can sometimes give you fits of not thin enough. Saves from having to mix fuels or use expensive fuels. Cold lighting will always remain the same level of difficulty vs temperature. When using thicker oils, you may have to sew in an extra copper thread or two. Or if you expect cold weather use. You can sew in copper wire into a regular lamp wick if desired. But remember, those wicks do get used up. For a neat effect, cut a zig-zag pattern into the end of the wick looks like this: ^-^-^-^-^ on the top end. But bigger peaks. Or an arrowhead shape. Or a 'fang' shape. Or a spoon shape. Different patterns yield different flame designs. Olive oil seems to not want to draw up a wick very well on it's own. For some reason it wants the flame close to the fuel presumably to heat the fuel and thin it out. Copper wire allows heat transfer to warm the oil and allow the wick to be raised higher for more light if desired. Edited to fix a typo...

@frikkiesmit327 2 года назад

Your comment regarding olive oil you probably correct. My reason : i have built a furnace that runs on old cooking oil. And the oil needs to heat up to certain temp before it burns. I even once soaked a piece of cardboard in oil and tried to ignite it with open flame from a lighter. Didnt work. So the temp of oil plays a big part

@HerrEngelsman 2 года назад

Great info!

@crazysquirrel9425 2 года назад

@@frikkiesmit327 Are you familiar with the old Kerosene type mantle lanterns? They had an alcohol 'cup' that you put in alcohol and lit it. The heat from the alcohol heated up the kerosene in the tubing and lit the resulting gasses. Same principle should work with olive oil and similar. If you took a Ball/Mason jar, make it into an oil lamp, but along the wick you ran some copper wire down into the oil, that too should vaporize the oil more efficiently. A sort of thermal feedback if you will.

@baranjan4172 2 года назад

my oil lamps stink and it's always the wick burning, not the oil. do you mean carbon felt does not burn and a strip can serve as a wick thus burning the oil only?

@jude7321 Год назад

@@baranjan4172 100% carbon felt does not burn. Just make sure it's 100%.

@johnhealy9231 2 года назад

A little trick I use to stop the lamps from smoking,soak the wick in vinegar then let it dry then install ,also regular trim the wick (black carbon bits) helps.

@Aleisha313 2 года назад

Thank you. I will try this.

@charlenerogers8607 Год назад

Thank you.

@glenngriffon8203 Год назад

Thanks for the advice. Will definitely try that

@johntyjp Год назад

Wish it might stop me from smoking?!😆

@evaallen9728 Год назад

Sounds like a Great idea, will try it. Thank you.

@chabka34 3 года назад

I was about to spend my day messing around doing this so thanks for saving me a day

@robertl4 Год назад

JP4 is a karosine , jet fuel . In refining the karosines come before the dieseles . The first diesel engine was run on vegetables oil .

@robgad2271 Год назад

You should see the effects of high elevation on the standard kerosene lamp, it's almost a no go at my cabin at 8m000 ft elevation. This is what I found works. Add 3 parts of proposal alcohol 91% to one part kerosene, burns faster but the little water in the alcohol helps the vapor point and stays lit without constant relighting and adjusting the wick. Vodka works at about the same strength with kerosene or olive oil. Diesel works, but soots up something terrible. Use almost anything but gasoline, even a little bit makes it into a bomb, not light or heat if it goes boom or flares all over the place. Thanks for the video.

@harrymills2770 10 месяцев назад

The store bought propane heaters don't work at elevation, either. their safety isn't a CO detector, but an O2 detector, and if the air's too thin, it'll shut itself off. For your safety. smh

@crazysquirrel9425 10 месяцев назад

A Coleman white gas lantern can give off a lot of heat. If you can find a Coleman catalytic heater that too can work.

@rickyloveday5727 4 месяца назад

Wonder 20% diesel 80% cooking oil

@generfeld 3 года назад

Great video. Those look like the WALMART FLORASENSE lamp and lantern- I got both too. The FLORASENSE lamp oil works great. Be careful- the glass globe on that lantern is VERY thin and easily breaks. Also the lantern wick is much smaller (7/16") than the lamp wick (probably 7/8") so it will put out less light regardless of fuel type. The larger the wick, the worse it would work with thicker fuels. The WALMART lamp works great, and a 7/8" wick gives a lot of light. But it's delicate and not easily portable, and any wind/breeze ruins the flame- so Im buying a DIETZ lantern with a 5/8" or 7/8" wick so I can bring it to family dinners, summers outside at night, etc. Nothing compares to the comfort and beauty of fire light. I have these indoors and it makes any room look comforting and warm, etc. Put them on a hard stable flat surface away from any fabric or carpeting, and you're fine- oil only burns if its soaked into something, it does not burn on a flat hard surface. So even if it knocks over you should be fine

@benjammin2L8 Год назад

Carbon felt makes a great wick for vegetable oils

@bryansloesshillshomestead4523 4 года назад

We used an oil lamp to keep our hog water tank thawed out during the winter when I was a kid. We used diesel fuel in the lamp. It was readily available ( step dad was a truck driver) the lamp was all metal. Rectangular metal box with the burner no chimney. I've tried finding them at the farm stores and on line and haven't had any luck.

@426superbee4 2 года назад

We used them lamps and Coleman stoves to help heat our tents while hunting

@johnelliott7375 Год назад

I have a whole be ox of them and they are about half the size of the one he has.

@marthaleone584 Год назад

Amazon has those lamps

@jimbayler4277 Год назад

@@marthaleone584 : Under what search/keywords ?

@jimbayler4277 Год назад

@@marthaleone584 : Under what search/keywords ?

@Faithfulfamily 11 месяцев назад

Interesting. We use a parrafin oil in our lamps. Burns cleaner than kerosene. I can see definitely mixing in order to stretch the oils out because the lamp oils such as the parrafin and or kerosene are very expensive here in Canada. Even expensive olive oil is way cheaper than our lamp oil!

@TPooch-qt6sf 10 месяцев назад

Paraffin lamp oil has a habit of freezing if stored in cold just a tidbit.

@albanymountainhomestead 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing this, learned a few useful tips beyond types of fuel to use.

@lisalynch629 11 месяцев назад

My #2 clean heat just went from 10 to 15$;thanks biden

@auntbarbara5576 Месяц назад

A recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose yours. A recovery is when Jo & The Ho lose theirs 👍🏻

@johnndavis7647 Год назад

You are going to have to wash your glass globes every few days. They are very delicate and break easily. I wash mine in a basin of hot soapy water but I wash them separately with nothing else in the basin to bump them against. Turn the wick down as low as possible before you light the lamp because the flame is going to jump up when you lower the globe. It will smoke a lot when the flame jumps up too high. If you keep the flame adjusted so it doesn't smoke you will have to wash the globes less often and so reduce the possibility of breaking them during washing or handling. Odorless mineral spirits is what I generally use for fuel in kerosene lamps. I get it from the paint isle at the big box stores.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Good points. Thank you for sharing this information

@createa.googleaccount713 10 месяцев назад

What's Really impressive is how you stretched a 5 minute video into a 20 min. Video. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, I appreciate you 🙏🏻

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

If I tried to do it in just five minutes most of the information would not be included. I did high speed to cut time out but still show what a lot of viewers have asked for in older videos.

@createa.googleaccount713 10 месяцев назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound still I appreciate you 🙏🏻🔥 Thank you

@airman6822 9 месяцев назад

I use Klean Heat, doesnt smell or smoke. Its currently $15/gallon (Dec 2023). I'm going to try a couple of these alternatives.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 9 месяцев назад

Remember, these fuels are for emergency use, not daily use. For us the use of oil lamps/lanterns is light eighth in line for our backups for lighting, behind automatic emergency LED lights, battery powered lanterns, solar rechargeable lanterns, etc.

@clairewyndham1971 Год назад

I buy kleen heat. I'm in an apartment and can't have my ceilings have soot. Kleenex Heat not only burns clean but does generate about 5° of heat, which can be a game changer here in Upper Wisconsin.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Cool, ah I mean nice I'll look into that. Lately I have been stocking up on Shabbos Lamp Oil, by Ner Mitzvah, in the gallon jugs. Yes I have 20 + gallons of kerosene, but I am saving that for adding to my tractor's fuel in the winter and for emergencies.

@clairewyndham1971 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound - Yes, please do. Msybe that few degrees won't make a difference to many people, but in an area like mine, cold weather is not something that happens " every so often". But also, for me, because its not kerosene, there is no soot build up on the ceilings, which means a LOT to me.

@PalmettoPrepared 4 года назад

Interest. Im always down to add new tricks to my bag and never considered using vegetable oil or olive oil as a mix with lamp oil to extend them. Im a kerosene man myself. Takin it back to the Rockefeller Standard oil days. But knowing how to make biodiesel will be extremely helpful. Thanks Gil

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 4 года назад

I want to make bio fuel that I can use for lamps and oil fired water heaters

@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 4 года назад

How do you make biodiesel?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 There are several videos on how to do it on RU-vid. I haven't tried yet, too busy getting the compound set up. I plan to try in a year or two.

@dinky6620 2 года назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I couldn't find how to tag you but thank you! I knew I could use olive oil in my lamps.

@hardnackfarms1736 3 года назад

I am going to try and get some of these at auctions or garage sales. I learn so much from your channel. I will check with Tom and see if we have any of these lamps? I know he has a few decorative ones I got him. Thank you for sharing! Wendy🌸🐞

@trajandeitrich 10 месяцев назад

Holy comments! 😂 I had a turbo diesel Mercedes running on Alt fuels for 5 years. Lots of experiments from veg/citronella tiki torches to waste oil melting furnace. Fun! Preheating oils thin them out. I used copper tubing coiled around the furnace before going to the burner as a preheater. Once it's going it's going! Waste oil is a resource! Give waste oil burners some experimentation. You won't regret it.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

I have several plans for building waste oil heaters, I just have so much going on getting the properties up to the self-sufficient stage. I want to use them for heating the shops and livestock buildings.

@itsnobodyg Год назад

Very good tutorial you taught me a lot now I know if I ran out of oil lamp with to use thank you for sharing

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

You have no idea how good your comment made me feel. You nailed the purpose, "If You Run Out". Hopefully everyone will stock up while they can. Have a great evening and Halloween tomorrow.

@DKilnerScull-wu1gn 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for your informative video I've been trying to find the best solution to use in my oil lamps when I'm out of lamp oil God bless you and your family and bless America our military and veterans

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

Thank you, I try to share what I know to help others. My wife thanks you too, she was a Staff Sergeant

@DKilnerScull-wu1gn 10 месяцев назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound thank your wife for her sacrifice and service for country may God bless you both 🙏

@mattgiebel 4 года назад

I buy “lamp oil” from the local Amish general store. It’s just high quality mineral spirits. It’s cheap doubles as a solvent and burns in my flat wick and center draught lamps clean stable and bright.

@marymadalenem2351 3 года назад

Does mineral oil smell?

@jungleno. 3 года назад

I hope you mean mineral oil and not highly volatile mineral spirits. Big difference.

@falingo 3 года назад

I buy lamp oil from a guy named morshu

@inhumanfilth681 2 года назад

What you are describing is extremely dangerous please don't do this

@Zane-It 2 года назад

@@inhumanfilth681 I bet it's a troll trying to get people killed.

@jimnjele.bean-dayone3505 7 месяцев назад

Great experiment...I have a diesal heater that i dumped a quart of canola oil intoabout a gallon of diesal in the tank. Fired up the heater, and it was hot !!!...shut down and went to bed. Next day heater would not light ...the oil was heavier and not enough carbon content I think...had it been used fryer oil, I feel it would have worked....had to drail the tank of about a quart and presto, heater worked again....love doing experiments like this...thank you for sharing...

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 7 месяцев назад

Another problem with cooking oils that I have found out since making this video is that they are altered to NOT burn at higher cooking temperatures and that is the reason I had problems with them and why it didn't work in your heater. I was about to try some in my Kerosun heater when I found out. Good thing I found out before I ruined a new wick.

@stevecochran9078 Год назад

I've been using charcoal lighter fluid as a lamp oil in recent months. Basically, any petroleum product classified as a 'Combustible' is safe to use in an oil lamp, lantern or mason jar lamp. Vegetable oils are 'combustible' but benefit from a little help as demonstrated on the video. We use olive oil in our church lampadas. The only problem with olive oil though, is it starts to congeal at about 55* F. But, olive oil burns clean and pretty much odorless.

@vetinger 10 месяцев назад

Thank a lot for showing your great experiments!!!

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

My pleasure! I just hope it helps others.

@miguelboricuapatientlongsu1855 3 года назад

I'm glad of running across your video I had been thinking about the possibility of cooking oil to be used and you answered my question thank you so much Four more years .

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

I'm glad you got your question answered by the video. I hope you enjoy my other preparedness videos too.

@funfun9360 Год назад

Use Goeche fodri oil for the Lamp, works great.

@travismoore7849 2 года назад

Jojoba oil maybe better, It has long chain oils like whale oil. I don't know about flax oil.

@stevengoodwin4501 8 месяцев назад

You could use that basting tool to drip some "starter" oil on the wick.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 8 месяцев назад

Back at the other house I have a two ounce bottle with an eyedropper just for that purpose. Good thinking!

@Sjackson2369 3 года назад

Jet A/JP-8 is an excellent fuel as well if you can get your hands on it. It’s refined beyond #1 and kerosene.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

Yes it is, but most people don't have it around for emergencies. Thanks for bringing it up. 👍

@Bucky1836 2 года назад

I live a block from airport i buy it in bulk 4.50 per gal

@triumphmanful Год назад

You can fly at home if it gets lit !

@hardnackfarms1736 2 года назад

We got paraffin to run our lamps. I was able to get one at the auction and the same friend that gave us the jars gave us some oil lamps so we have several now. Wendy🐞🦋🌸

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад

I'm going to grab a couple more bottles of lamp oil myself just so I don't have to get into my kerosene reserve

@hardnackfarms1736 2 года назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound we should get some more as well. Plus more solar lights

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад

@@hardnackfarms1736 Solar lights are good. Find out what batteries they take and be sure to have extra to replace them when they wear out

@hardnackfarms1736 2 года назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I am learning about all of this. I missed what you said on your live about my solar because there was buffering

@roseskyschmolesky Год назад

What is the difference between paraffin and lamp oil ? What actually IS lamp oil ?

@TruthWizardTemplar7 3 года назад

God bless your family they are so cute and thanks for the information

@toniafolven Год назад

Sure did enjoy the bluegrass music playing with your video. could you please send me the title of the tune. My Papaw played these instruments when I was a kid. Thanks again sir for helping us understand some good stuff.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

It was some that I was sent by another RU-vid channel. It didn't have the title on it. I believe it was from RU-vid's copy right free library for creators. Sorry I could give you more information about it.

@RobertFulton-o9j Месяц назад

I use it in karosine heaters too

@HeritageFarmsTexas 3 года назад

Great video. We just recently ordered some lamps for emergencies.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

While these are good emergency fuel, stock up on a high quality lamp oil so you don't have to use these.

@HeritageFarmsTexas 3 года назад

Will do. Thanks

@jeffreykennedy9553 Год назад

fun fact you can run marvel mystery oil yes I actually did thst it ran just fine

@jeffreykennedy9553 Год назад

they do make 1gal jugs of mmo if I remember correctly its burns fairly clean

@thewheelchairprepper8070 Год назад

THANKS

@seetasingh2032 Год назад

Just remain in the darkness,your eyes will get use to it.

@leecarlson9713 13 дней назад

Some of us are older, and we need light to be able to move around. Dim light is great for younger people, but I am 80, and less stable on my feet now, with old eyes that don’t see as well, and I need good light to move in. And I don’t think anyone’s eyes can adjust to total darkness.

@phillipensminger2934 11 месяцев назад

Thank You! You are an amazing teacher and I was able to learn a lot from your video. Thanks again Phil

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 11 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@BonnieStarke-s6o 7 месяцев назад

Thank you so much

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 7 месяцев назад

You're most welcome

@RoseBud-fk4qg 2 года назад

That is what I was wondering about mixing thank for telling us about mixing

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад

No problem!

@drmachinewerke1 Год назад

I would much x veggie and diesel 50/50 in my Mercededs. I filtered the oil with a paint filter. No issues in Missouri.

@GrayManPrepping 4 года назад

Bio-diesel is great lamp fuel too.

@andrewb9708 3 года назад

I've been using b99 in my Dietz from day one. Burns really clean with a brilliant white-yellow flame. It has a very light vegetable oil smell, but nothing offensive.

@kbjerke Год назад

Whale Oil Beef Hooked! Great video - thanks!!

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@Robertjustice101 2 года назад

So you can use # 2 Diesel as an substitute fuel for Kerosene heaters.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад

Only in emergencies, #1 diesel is better and burns cleaner. You will need to have a fresh air source and you need to have a carbon monoxide detector for any fuel in a kerosene heater

@Robertjustice101 2 года назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound Leave a few windows open a crack for air flow. You try using corn oil see how that burns in lamps. I tried useing off road diesel it didn't burn really well in the kerosene heaters I had to clean and replace the wicks and heater tanks out.

@ferebeefamily 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the information.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 7 месяцев назад

Any time!

@sixpackbinky Год назад

Great video thanks!

@rubymcgilvra1771 10 месяцев назад

I would rather use diesel than veg. oil because the gallon of veg. oil at Walmart was almost 9$ when diesel was about 4$ something.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

True

@nicholasridiculous3488 2 года назад

Great info. Thank you sir.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад

Gold to help out with suggestions. Stay safe and prepared.

@wheepingwillow24u17 11 месяцев назад

OLIVE OIL IS SOME EXPENSIVE FUEL AS WOULD BE CHEAP OLE VEGETABLE OIL. AS FOR THE KEROSENE 1 IS USE THAT IN MY HEATER. DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAD ONE MARKED 2. I WAS TOLD 1 IS FOR INDOOR USE, AND ANY OTHER WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR THE LUNGS AS IT DOESN'T BURN CLEAN. ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS? THANKS SO MUCH, THIS WAS A GREAT LESSON/LEARNING EXPERIENCE. :)

@stanleyspurgeon5339 Год назад

I have thought about bio diesel myself maybe cut it with kerosene I’m experimenting with antique perfection heaters

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Cool, please let us know how it works out.

@stanleyspurgeon5339 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound sure No problem I just have to get the glass containers only gonna make small batches Another oil that nobody thinks about is olive oil that’s what they use in the holy land and fish oil

@gordonadams4793 11 месяцев назад

Also they used olive oil to light the lamps on the tabernacle of THE ARC OF THE COVENANT

@308dad8 11 месяцев назад

I keep some used motor oil around for lighting fires but especially the thinner weights would work fine especially thinned with diesel or kerosene. For fire starting gas and used oil, gas and diesel, gas and used cooking oil, diesel and used oils all work great, burn hot and long to get proper combustibles going. I have used animal fat with paper towel wick in a can for a makeshift candle/lamp. Lots of options. I bet mineral spirits would think oils out sufficiently to make them burn bright and draw well, but it may be expensive compared to buying kerosene or diesel.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 11 месяцев назад

Good thinking. Your last sentence ends on point. If everyone can they should be buying lamp oil or #1 kerosene now and not waiting until it is too late, they won't need this information . . . mostly

@jungleno. 3 года назад

You did not discuss different amount of light output by using different oils. Some oils put it out very little light.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

I know, but the purpose of this video was to talk about alternative fuel for EMERGENCIES, not everyday use.

@davidcooper6704 Год назад

I have an old (approx 1900) carriage/cart lamp which was designed to burn "Vaclite". This a lard like substance and was used in a semi solid form to prevent spillage when the carriage was on the move as the roads were rough. The lamp has a wick and to enable the Vaclite to travel up the wick the burner incorporated a copper filament which, once the flame was burning would heat up and keep part of the vaclite fuel liquid enough to enable the wick and burner to function. It might be worth experimenting with a piece of copper wire running from the flame to the oil to thin the oil just enough so that it can travel up the wick.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Several commenters have mentioned about having wicks with copper threads in them.

@davidcooper6704 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound This is the result of my research. "Vaclite was a flammable grease, of wax-like consistency, used as a lantern fuel by the Navy and other marine users as it was spill proof. The company was owned by Standard Oil by 1906. The fuel used a special burner called a Minot burner. "

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

@@davidcooper6704 Interesting information. It's amazing how much is lost as we "progress" as a people.

@triumphmanful Год назад

@@davidcooper6704 Cool. (actually warm advice ) My family is all US Navy. I bet Grampa saw some of those lites. He and my Dad were both Machinist Mates- Petty Officer 2nd Class (E5) US Navy men ! Their job was to keep the ship running. Fixing everything, from plumbing, electricity, lighting, and much more. Very important job ! Without them, the ship would shut down and that would be hell during war time ! I must have inhereted something from them as I can fix most everything. I love being independent and have my tools to prove it. Only thing I have not tried is brain surgery (joke ) !

@Animegypsy Год назад

What is the negative about using low odor mineral spirits?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

It's classified as a flammable, not a combustible. It's vapors can ignite by spark or the flame of another source. Not safe to use in a lantern or lamp.

@jimmieblue6262 Год назад

Racoon or possum fat rendering will work in warm weather mix a little very very thin oil or kerosene with it too make it go further.

@cowboygeologist7772 Год назад

Thanks for posting.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Just trying to help people get a little more prepared.

@pityparty9955 Год назад

I love using lamps and lanterns, but can’t get the flame bright enough to read by. Also some of the fuels stink intolerably.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

The quality of the fuel impacts the brightness of the flame and the smell & smoke/soot output

@edwardkrall3335 4 года назад

Thanks for the great video. Can we alternatively use other oils such as peanuts oil or other types of vegetable related oila? Thanks

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 4 года назад

Yes, absolutely! You can even mix oils.

@edwardkrall3335 4 года назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound Thanks for the prompt reply. I sure will try.

@thomassmith3310 11 месяцев назад

How about veg. Oil or peanut oil that has been used for fish, fries,etc

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 11 месяцев назад

The more I look into vegetable oils, the more I find that they have been modified not to smoke when cooking at high temperatures. That makes them harder to get to burn for use in oil lamps. especially those oils used in deep frying.

@leoheine5427 10 месяцев назад

What about fumes I use these lanterns with lamp oil?

@davidvalenta9394 4 года назад

for total self-sufficiency, could sunflower oil be used? I've seen someone create a manual hydraulic press sunflower oil extractor which seems pretty good for total independence/self-sustainability, though it's a slow-go process. What about the offput fumes of oil lamps inside a home or workshop? also: what about using used or rancid cooking oil? (or is that best left to go for biodiesel?) Thanks-

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 4 года назад

Sun flower oil is usable, I just haven't tested it to see how well it burn and whether it also has to be boosted with diesel or regular lamp oil. Peanut oil works too. Used and/or rancid cooking oil works, it just smells like french fries and make everyone hungry for the first week, then they get sick of the smell. adding a little peppermint oil, orange oil, lemon oil takes care of that. The fumes from vegetable oils are a tee tiny bit less bad than regular lamp oil which is better than kerosene. Extra virgin olive oil is the best health wise. unless you seal up the house or workshop air tight, you will always have some fresh air exchange going on. Every time you open the door you get fresh air. The amount of CO2 generated for three lamps for six hours is about the same as cooking dinner with three burners for 30 minutes.

@davidvalenta9394 4 года назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound THank you ! I appreciate your feedback, knowledge & experience!

@dandahermitseals5582 Год назад

I 80 yrs old from the Ozarks n waiting to see if you show these city people how to trim their wicks. Or describe the different styles of those hurricane lamps and which one burns the brightest. Ok you didn't trim your wick. Haha

@426superbee4 3 года назад

I'am looking for indoors oil, Like vegetable oil, mineral oil, paraffin oil. Not out door oils like diesel, Kerosene ect i can't stand there smells. i just mix 50/50 vegetable oil and paraffin oil and it worked Excellent. and no smells. might can mix it 75% vegetable oil and 25% paraffin oil ? IDK haven't tried that yet ~ So that there doubles you indoor paraffin lamp oil! ~ Want a fragrance add some essential oil ~ Want a color oil for glass lamps use food coloring

@benniedonald 3 года назад

We burned kerosene in our lamps. It didn't give us any problems. Well I did drop a few dozen I Q points give or take a dozen. LOL 😆🤣

@freethinker4596 2 года назад

We heat with kerosene, So if it works I'm all for it

@426superbee4 2 года назад

@@freethinker4596 OMG the smell of kerosene, diesel, and wood YUCK> For inside I heat with propane and electric. We don't have natural gas here. I WISH FOR IT> They got these little electric space heater that can heat a bedroom They work Nice to! cost about 20 bucks each. I can't afford my central air and heat 400 dollars a month electric bill So i went to window units for ac, propane heater and space heater. Cost of my electric bill now is 77 dollars to 175 dollars at the tops The propane is expensive but a little cheaper than electric> more of a emergency heat. for extreme cold weather > most cases just the pilot light or low settings on a wall propane heater. will help to keep a bedroom warm. with temp around 40 to 30 deg out side. So pick a small room in your house you can live in. Stay in the room much as possible for heat and air. This will help you save Money, rather than heating and cooling your whole house! If you want to heat and cool your whole house get more ac units and propane wall heater and space heater. heat and cool the rooms you stay in the most front room and bed rooms

@426superbee4 2 года назад

@@benniedonald i don't like the smells of Kerosene, diesel, and wood burning. It chokes me up. Makes my house stink. Those are not good for inside used. So its electric, propane, or natural gas. Which we don't have is natural gas. I have have no problems with this kind of burning energy> Steam heating and power is good to can heat the lines with water or oil from a pit or stove from out side. cheers

@rachaelclarke3076 2 года назад

Yes, regular lamp oil or kerosene give me an instant headache 😩 I'm curious if mineral oil will work. Is it the same as paraffin?

@QTPatriot 11 месяцев назад

When mixing the veg oil and diesel wouldn’t they separate because of different weights?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 11 месяцев назад

The diesel causes at bonding on the molecular with some oils. Yes it will eventually separate but for most mixtures that would longer than it would take to burn it up. It is like adding dish soap to water. if you just pour it in it settles to the bottom. If you mix it well it may not separate at all.

@americanfreedom2324 10 месяцев назад

I wonder what would happen if you would thin down the vegetable oil with alcohol?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

Good question. The alcohol would evaporate out of the mixture and make an explosive vapor in the lamp and you could have an explosion. NEVER put flammable liquids in oil lamps. Oil lamp fuels are combustible and that is what the lamps are designed for. Safety first. If you have oil lamps/lanterns stock up on fuel while you can. I love our oil lamps, but they are the eighth level of backup lighting for us. Automatic power failure light, LED lanterns, LED flashlights, solar powered lights, rechargeable batteries for LED and regular flashlights and lanterns, portable power stations, generators, then oil lamps. Diversify your backups.

@adnanabdull4h Год назад

What oil is safe to burn indoors in terms of fumes?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Olive oil is safest. Next is a high grade kerosene lamp oil. Make sure it is a lamp oil, not just a type of kerosene. Some kerosenes have additives that you don't want to use indoors

@jsollien127 3 года назад

16:49 Vegetable oil - Doesn't work well. Diesel - Good. 50/50 - Works.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

In my continuing experiments I have found that different types of vegetable oils, as well as brands, burn differently. It has to do with the viscosity and pureness of the oils.

@jsollien127 3 года назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound This is awesome information, thanks! I never ventured past the expensive store-bought lamp oil before... What do you think about used cooking/frying oil? I always feel bad about throwing it out.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

@@jsollien127 Frying oil can be filtered (coffee filters work) and saved to use again. Just don't get it too hot, that ruins the oil. It should work in the lamps/lanterns for emergencies. Haven't tried that yet.

@maccabeus-everydaysurvival5828 4 года назад

Excellent brother

@gsp49 Год назад

I keep 5 gallons of kerosene on hand, I burn about 2 gallons a month for light.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

I am adding more solar powered lights to our supplies to extend the life of our kerosene and lamp oils.

@lindaripp5902 Год назад

This was so well done thank you

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Thank you

@pstewart5443 3 года назад

Im jealous of your tractors, gardens, and chickens.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

Just a good series of luckily timed purchases and a bit of hard work.

@triumphmanful Год назад

its great to have your own stuff. City folks would starve & die if everything shut down. Country folks would survive ! We live 50 miles from the big city. They would swarm over us if a Y2K SHTF thing happened. Home security is essential !

@adventuresbackroad2534 3 года назад

Olive or vegetables oil is good for Florida, here in nord of Canada olive or vegetables suck because low temperature they freeze too stiff. Paraffin didn't frozen. Lesson learned

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

I can see that out in the out buildings when they get cold. Best bet is just to stock up with good quality lamp oil. $$$ Well, there goes the budget. 🤣

@426superbee4 3 года назад

They got the 12" hurricane oil lamps for 7 dollars on amazon. I just got 2 of them in. There nice little lamps ~ the wick size is 1/2"

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 3 года назад

Yes, that is a really good deal for emergency lanterns

@426superbee4 3 года назад

I agree 👍 and for power outages, camping ect to ~ I couldn't go wrong with 2 for 14 bucks and free shipping 😎

@johnwyman6126 2 года назад

I would suggest trying them out right away at night with no other lights on. You'll probably find them to be less bright than a night light.

@426superbee4 2 года назад

@@johnwyman6126 Mine are pretty bright. Not as bright as the Coleman Lantern thro. I'am happy with them! For a emergency outage. I would recommend, the oil lanterns.>> I would also recommend these new T5 UlraFire rechargeable flash lights. There like Alien

@greendeane1 Год назад

When my father believe he didn't have enough gasoline in his three piston 1965 Saab to get to work, he'd put kerosene in the gas take. It was smelly but worked. I would not do that with a modern sophisticated motor. Three piston did not have a crankcase. The oil was added to the fuel.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Just like 2 stroke motors, chainsaws and such.

@yourmom1302 2 года назад

"But diesel doesn't burn with open flames" people who haven't ever even tried.

@susantaylor8507 Год назад

Alll I have is glasses lamps

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

I love the glass lamps. They are so elegant looking.

@jimbayler4277 Год назад

Charcoal lighter fluid also works.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Charcoal lighter fluid is too flammable and dangerous. It evaporates at room temperature and its vapors and be explosive in a partially filled lantern or at least cause a flash fire. Safety tip; Do Not use any flammable fuel in a oil lamp/lantern.

@jimbayler4277 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound ok, thanks.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

You would be surprised how many said the same thing. The other thing I try to add is the was for emergency fuels, now that you are thinking about it, stock up on a good quality lamp oil AND get a solar battery charger for you flashlight batteries. With the increasing types of LED lights, Oil lamps can become the backup to the backup or just mode lighting

@connieroberts4626 Год назад

Question, I have COPD, how bad is yhe smell and how much does it effect breathing? Also they say the nation will be out of diesel fuel by around the middle of November then what? Is there anything you can cut the vegetable oil with to 5hin it? Just trying to think of more alternatives.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

The smell varies with the type of oil. As the title says this is what you can use in emergencies, I would recommend stocking up with lamp oil while you can. I have switched to Shabbos Lamp Oil, by Ner Mitzvah. It is clear, smokeless and odorless. One of my subscribers uses Klean - Heat by Klean Strip in his lamps and kerosene heaters. You can cut vegetable oil with any of the commercial lamp oils.

@robstirling3173 Год назад

I understand that before Kerosene /Paraffin oil was available, Colza oil ( Rapeseed oil) was used here in the UK. Could you please try that out?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

I think you meant Canola oil. We don't use it as we have switch to olive oil only. The purpose was to show some possibilities with what people have on hand in emergencies. I continue to recommend that anyone with oil lamp stock up on lamp oil or kerosene so they don't have to use alternate fuels.

@Thebearcave1776 2 года назад

A small solar setup with Panel, cheap charge controller, battery/batteries, and cheap inverter works fantastic for lighting. Much safer and no resources to store.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад

True but that's not the subject of this video, that another video. But since you brought it up, solar works if there is sunshine, not during storms or when covered by snow. Which is what the weather has been here for the last two weeks. If we had lost power we would have been on oil lamps by day five. That said I do recommend solar in addition to oil lamps, candles, tri-fuel generators, and peddle powered generators. One is none, two is one, three is better.

@Thebearcave1776 2 года назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound Batteries provide the power at night. Building a Solar system is not just a matter of day/night. You measure how many watts a day/night you need and build the system to meet that demand; with your number of "no sun days" accounted for. I won't go into what such a simple system entails here. You won't see my burning Diesel inside the house poisoning my family. We do have some oil lamps. And yes, 1 is none and 2 is one. Take care.

@howardlawrence9882 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound oil lamps give heat. 2 in bathroom 4 in kitchen, like...eh bye?

@triumphmanful Год назад

Vacume tubes require no fuel, no electric, no pumps. There is a video on it. I would love that setup. Just spent $1200. USD on 300 Gallons of Home Heating Oil ! Damn, there goes my nest egg !

@taylorsparks7697 Год назад

love your DIY vids!!!!! great ideas that work:):):)

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Glad you like them!

@gidgetsmart7186 Год назад

Can alcohol be mixed with vegetable or olive oil to thin it out? Would the wick last longer?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

NO! Sorry for shouting but that is very dangerous. The alcohol evaporates out of the oil and gathers at the top of the oil reservoir and can explode or at the least cause a flash fire. Never put flammable liquids in oil lamps/lanterns. Only use oils. Oils are not flammable, they are combustible and that's a big difference for safety.

@gidgetsmart7186 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound Thanks. I use alcohol stoves camping, but that's just a flame with no wick. I guess I was thinking that combining with a plant oil would raise the flash point, requiring a wick. Thank you for setting me straight. I didn't think that the oil and alcohol separate because using alcohol is how I mix essential oils in water. 🤷‍♀️

@richardtrowell8812 Год назад

Interesting video. Only one I have seen comparing different fuels. I have heard thinning the thicker oils with kerosene solves the wicking issue. One third kerosene if I remember correctly. The carbon felt material has mostly been used for alcohol stoves. To aid in wicking. Would be interesting to see how well it would work in a heating situation as well as cooking. Supposedly one ounce of alcohol can bring water to boil. How long would each of the fuels burn as a heat source? Maybe a quart of each.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

I have a couple of kerosene heaters. They burn 8 hours on 1.5 gallons.

@richardtrowell8812 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound The alcohol burns on vapor alone when it is heated. Also burns hotter and cleaner. Notice the blue flame in video. Perhaps it would burn longer?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

@@richardtrowell8812 There was no alcohol used in the video

@richardtrowell8812 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I was saying it would be interesting to compare it to what was done in the video.

@nickprague1481 Год назад

Have you tried mixtures with used motor oil, especially synthetic oil?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Yes I have and it smokes too much and wow the stink.

@tacticalrabbit308 Год назад

Have you tried coconut oil?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

No. I was only trying the things that I would around and could use in emergencies. My wife thought it was cool to teach others what they could use, but then she went and stocked up on some high quality lamp oils and said she doesn't want to deal with the alternate fuels when she can stock up now. Yes she is smart

@Suuegrl 2 года назад

So now, if you mix diesel with a melted tallow fat? Tallow has long burning time for little amounts. Wonder how this works out. Have to try and get back at you.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад

The only problem I see with that is if the tallow solidifies or thickens the mixture so that it won't flow up the wick. Let me know how it turns out.

@JohnSmith-ki2eq 3 года назад

You can thin out veg oil by adding a small amount of mineral/white spirit, you don't need a lot.

@ronfox5519 3 года назад

Is that the same as mineral spirits?

@JohnSmith-ki2eq 3 года назад

@@ronfox5519 yes, but remeber that you don't need a lot, and for the love of god don't try cooking with it 😆😐

@ronfox5519 3 года назад

@@JohnSmith-ki2eq got it . Lol.

@0.68_11 8 месяцев назад

Yes , if no white spirits...I use Whiskey or Vodka

@PEoplearepeople Год назад

Does carbon felt put out any dangerous fumes

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

I'm not sure as I haven't tried it yet. I can't see it being worse than normal wicks.

@donalddesnoo5303 Год назад

Do I have to keep my railroad lamp in the fridge after😅

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

🤣 good one

@donalddesnoo5303 Год назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound thanx couldn't resist 🥴

@bobf12 11 месяцев назад

If you are going to use diesel fuel, use the red off road fuel. You will pay road taxes on the clear on road fuel. Its the very same fuel but is dyed red for tax purposes.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 11 месяцев назад

In some areas. Here the off road has a higher sulfur content. My tractor doesn't like it

@scottdykstra9137 9 месяцев назад

Can you mix lamp oil and olive oil together?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 9 месяцев назад

Yes you can, as can other fruit and vegetables oil. The higher quality oils will blend better with the lamp oil. If the mixture is going to setting for a while before you use it you should wait to mix it. Unless you have a large amount of olive oil or palm oil available to you (such as several well producing olive trees), you should consider stocking up on lamp oil or diversifying your emergency lighting before an emergency happens.

@billg7101 11 месяцев назад

👍👍👍

@enascott5963 Год назад

Can I add 1k kerosene to old oil?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Old lamp oil? Yes.

@patriciafergusongerkin3785 10 месяцев назад

You said not to use Alcohol - does that include Denatured Alcohol?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

Yes. Now to clarify, most (99% or there about) oil lamps/lanterns are designed to use combustible fuel, not flammable fuel. Gasoline, alcohol, pain thinner, solvents, acetone are flammable. There are some old (1960s and earlier) multi-fuel lanterns. Coleman are the most common of these. They must say multi-fuel on them. The multi-fuel lanterns can alcohol and white gas as well as kerosene and other combustible fuels. These do not have a wick, they have a mantel and a pressure pump. I grew up using them and now they make me overly cautious when using. I will only light them up outdoors before I bring them inside.

@patriciafergusongerkin3785 10 месяцев назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound Wow, thank you for your quick reply. I have been using Klean-Heat for all my lanterns - most of them are really old lantern that I fund at yard sales, all of them ran really well with the Klean-Heat and I have found it at Lehmans as a lamp fuel. What I am looking for is a lamp fuel that burns bright, doesn’t’t have a heavy scent that bothers my allergies and doesn’t smoke. Someone has also recommended Firefly as a good lamp fuel. Do you have any recommendations?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

@@patriciafergusongerkin3785 The old Coleman multi-fuel with alcohol or white gas should work for you. Now to diversify, Propane never goes bad and burn clean. Solar charged LED lanterns with Lithium batteries are great too. I have a variety of types just because it is a good idea. On 11-14-23, I will have a live stream to answer questions on this topic on my other channel @GrayManPrepping at 10:00 pm eastern

@patriciafergusongerkin3785 10 месяцев назад

@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I considered the lanterns that had the mantel with pump and decided to stick with the lanterns that I am used to that use a wick. I will most likely go one of the two choices I mentioned above- the Klean-Heat or the Firefly. Thank you for your help and I will continue to search for a better option. None of my older lanterns say they are multi-fuel and the newer ones don’t either, but I will see if I can find the old Coleman multi-fuel. The Denatured Alcohol that have I am using in my Trianga Alcohol Stove and in a cooker/heater that is used in boats.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

@@patriciafergusongerkin3785 Is the flame hard to see in your alcohol stove? It is in mine and that is the reason alcohol lanterns use the mantle and pressure pump, to get a bright light. It's a trade off, which is way mine is my last line lighting.

@johnspruit7296 Год назад

What is the viscosity of SUNFLOWER oil ? Could that be used ?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

Steady shear rheological properties of oil samples were measured at shear rate range of 0.1-100 s⁻¹. Viscosity of olive, hazelnut, cottonseed, canola, soybean and sunflower was 61.2 mPa.s, 59.7 mPa.s, 57.3 mPa.s, 53.5 mPa.s, 48.7 mPa.s and 48.2 mPa.s, respectively.

@johnspruit7296 Год назад

Thank you for the scientific response. Excuse my lack of knowledge of terminology , but Does a LOWER number mean the oil will migrate UP a wick faster or slower ?

@johnspruit7296 Год назад

Thank you for the response. Excuse my lack of knowledge of the scientific terminology , But does a LOWER number mean the oil will travel UP a wick Faster or Slower ?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound Год назад

@@johnspruit7296 Lower is thinner and should wick better

@clandry1607 10 месяцев назад

I wonder if peanut oil is usable?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 10 месяцев назад

If you keep a supply on hand at all times. Remember, this is about fuels you have on hand in an emergency, not everyday use.

@asaboehme1866 2 месяца назад

Something I don't see in the video or the comments; Use caution and make sure there is fresh air ventilation. Lamps give off toxic fumes, especially diesel fuel/kerosene.

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 месяца назад

As stated in video and the description that these are Emergency Short Term fuels and to stockpile lamp oil now while you can get it. Diesel gives off toxic fumes from the additives it has for engine use, Kerosene does not have those toxic additives. It has been mentioned several time in the comments that modern homes are more air tight and one must make sure that there is enough ventilation to support the use of oil lamps. Turning on the kitchen hood fan or bathroom fan will draw in more than enough fresh air as it exhausts air in that room.

@littlehouseinthebigwoods9968 2 года назад

I don't think I understand so can I use just vegetable oil or no? Or Canola oil?

@CamppattonFamilyCompound 2 года назад

The wider and thicker the wick is the better the vegetable will burn. All vegetable oils are thicker than olive oil which is thicker than diesel and kerosene which in turn is thicker than modern lamp oil. Vegetable oils are a last choice and really need to be thinned or 'cut' to work better in emergencies. that's what this is about, fuels for emergencies. The best thing is to stock up with extra modern lamp oil. This is to show what you can use IF you have to.