I was born in London to Irish parents and went to school with Jamaican's in the 70's, love reggae, used to D J dub reggae and play bass, moved to Ireland 24 years ago to care for my parents, called a Brit bastard all the time, as John Lydon said too Irish for the English and too English for the Irish, so turn up the bass and racists are everywhere and I am sick of it
Well, I treat a person according to their character. The amount of pigmentation in their skin is not a factor. I only wish everybody treated me with the same respect.
I came here in 73.the.ploice gave us a hard time been Irish u were called a thick mick picked up walking home at nite and changed for been drunk we said nothing no camera them days
@@timlinator and the thousands of Irish slaves Oliver Cromwell sent to English plantation in the Bahamas and other places around the world, stole there lands
Donald Wainwright. When and where exactly did you see these signs. I’m just asking because there isn’t a shred of documented proof that these signs ever existed.
@@davidpryle3935 Take a look at any historical newspaper database and you will find lots of such anti Irish sentiments expressed. And if you wish to argue semantics that a newspaper advert or notice is technically not a 'sign' that was already tried in the US by one academic www.thedailybeast.com/the-teen-who-exposed-a-professors-myth www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/8th-grader-how-she-proved-no-irish-need-apply-signs-existed-despite-denial-from-prof academic.oup.com/jsh/article-abstract/49/4/829/2412883
@@davidpryle3935 Seriously .. It is well documented .. flats and jobs had that very wording ... " No blacks, no Irish, no dogs' in the 50ties and 60ties in the UK.
Irish/black unity, all Irishman from all nations should remember our oppressors saw us as no different from blacks. So we should always fight for black lives
Cromwell was a brute. His parliamentarian General Edmund Ludlow when speaking of the Burren in County Clare said, "A savage land, yielding neither water enough to drown a man, not tree to hang him, nor soil enough to bury." Which tells you the mindset of someone well versed in genocide.
My mum n dad lived in 1 room with his aunt until we got our own place. Then potential tenants wouldn't take a room as my dad was black but...the white tenants that we let a room to were absolutely gentlemen 👍🏽🙏🏽
My dad grew up in Ireland and always said to me about racism in America "that's how the english treated us". He empathized with black and brown people.
I grew up in the Uk in the 60s/ 70s. My family were from Galway. Irish everywhere as far as I was aware no body ever had a problem . My parents loved it here, we never had a penny . We were always given respect and friendship. British people are amongst the most accommodating people going. If not why would people keep coming.
@@hetrodoxly1203 no it wasn't my nan lived & grew up around Winson Green in Birmingham in the 1920s & 1930s they was everywhere my nan became friends with a couple of Irish kids & some of her so called friends wouldn't speak to her again same with my great grandparents.
@@jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980 In Birmingham, that's a new one, we have the one scribbled note from a window supposedly from a London B&B, it turned up in the mid 1980s, it's been proven to be fake, but i'd be very interested to see any solid evidence you have.
As I have said elsewhere, I lived in London in 1978 a newsagent at Kingsbury circle had adverts, including one which clearly said "No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs". How times change, on a visit recently that same shop advertised for staff "Must be Gudgerati speaking"
There's a saying people use in Belfast which goes,"The dogs in the street know about this matter or that".I've spoken to a number of dogs and they haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.🤪😜🐕🐶
Let's not forget that a lot of these highly racist English ,that did not want blacks or Irish living amougnst them, fought in the second world war... Makes you think doesn't it. But yet we are told by todays politicians that they were the greatest generation.
@@malbig2344 my spelling and grammar are correct, i just didn't bother to capitalise correctly. my meaning is crystal clear. Oh and by the way it's not "pratteling", it's prattling...duh
@Zane the pain LOL the Irish have been colonising England for centuries. Ireland gets independence - and instead of building on that half of you come running over to England as soon as the WW2 bombs stop dropping, to a place and people you obviously despise - makes no sense at all.
@Zane the pain The UK was wealthy through hard work, generations working in stinky old factories producing goods, even Charles Dickens was working in a factory at the age of 12. Other kids were working in mines digging coal. They were no more than slaves. The middle classes were inventing things that made the world a better place..How much are you stealing from the ordinary Chinese people when you fill your house with cheap Chinese goods?
@Zane the pain Yes the British brought the Irish the potato from S, America and the Irish population flourished to 8 million, trouble was they relied on it a bit too much after that as it was an easy crop. Cotton was not stolen it was bought from the USA. During the American civil war it was paid for with boats and other things the Americans were short of at the time. The British invented the weaving machine 'The Spinning Jenny' which revolutionized textile production around the world including India. Oh and the toilet you sit on everyday was invented by a Brit.
@Zane the pain England produced the industrial revolution and became the workshop of the world. This created demand for workers who came from neighbouring countries.
I stayed in Belfast a few years ago and I'd never met a more openly racist woman than the landlady of my hotel. She came in at breakfast time shocked to have a black guy come to the door. Actually said he's not coming in, he had no suitcase, at this time in the morning,. black as your boots he was. Stayed with me that incident did.
I had a neighbour, Scottish woman.....her husband was transferred to the metropolitan police in London (early 1970s) she later found a selection of blades, knuckle dusters and assorted weapons in one of the cupboards at her home, when she asked her husband he snapped these were for the raids on ‘black’ domestic disturbances in London, they always went in mob handed, beat the shit out of everyone, planted drugs, weapons etc and made their arrests. They hated catholic’s with the same passion.
@@jimd8292 I spent some months in Worcester MA and the relationships between the various ethnic groups was tense at times. Weekends were a time to be careful as fights could break out very quickly with no warning or prior signs of a verbal confrontation or shouting, which you would get in Ireland. Talking to some police on my way home I was told that it was down to racial tensions between the Irish and the "blacks", he wasn't specific about which blacks but this was sad to hear.
@@jgdooley2003 yeah, if your Irish the explanation is simple, rich wasps (white Anglo Saxon Protestants) have always played the Irish and blacks against each other, keep us divided and fighting amongst ourselves and not against them
@@jimd8292 Irish and blacks have nothing to do with each other you dickhead, protect your own people and forget others, Ireland will be minority Irish by the 2040s-60s
Where are the Irish ? I lived in Portobello/Ladbroke grove, London as a child in the 60’s and i remember there were IRISH there, long before West Indians but again they don’t exist in the media - could that be racism ?
In recent times media plays down the Irish discrimination part as its more fashionable to concentrate on the black story. I used to go to West Indian parties in the early 70s, it was great everyone got on great but there weren't many white people. Although in a local Irish pub it would get packed with west Indians, Irish, poles, white working class English we all got on great, people would only fall out over the usual things, but I don't remember any trouble on racial or national grounds, after all we were all in the same boat, all bottom of the heap, there was plenty of mutual respect. Also lots of west Indians then were very serious & responsible church going types, very well brought up, very polite very respectable people it wasn't all rasta man & Bob Marley. I think the over immigration Tony Blair encouraged around the turn of the century destabilised what was a more harmonious society, too many people too fast.
Same here in Liverpool born 67 mum used to get spat at as well as us the kids so moved to Toxteth Liverpool 8 went tho all the madness of skin eds racist police if post code was L8 no chance getting work we ones had unity now Toxteth is gentifide am victim of it, but to be honest am happy we're I am today as Toxteth L8 today folk I new weather moved on dead the rest just trying to blend it.
What is neatly forgotten about those signs 'no blacks, no dogs, no Irish' is that they could contain anything about anybody 'no musicians' 'no actors' 'no single women' ' no pregnant couples', etc. Presumably, based on a bad experience the landlord/lady had previously had with a particular group as after all they wanted to make money.
There never was signs “no blacks, no dogs, no Irish”. It’s just another urban myth, all based on a photo of a sign mocked up by Irish activists in the 1980s.
@@tablettwentytwo1750 I am referring to the U.K. not just Bristol. There is plenty of proof of discrimination against black people, of that there is no doubt. There may have been isolated instances of discrimination against different nationalities for particular reasons. For instance I have heard there were “no Australians” signs in boarding house windows in earlscourt London. Apparently the Aussies had a bit of a reputation for late night partying. The Irish also had a reputation for heavy drinking and some guesthouses would not have wanted to have to cope with this. But the “no blacks no dogs no Irish” signs apparently being all over the place is a myth cooked up in the 1980s.
@@tablettwentytwo1750 I am saying that the room signs existed, but they did not only say 'no blacks,Irish or dogs' they could say anything 'no musicians' 'no actors' 'no single women' etc.
@@davidpryle3935 Have to give it to you Pryle, you're on a mission to rewrite history. As detailed by way of reply - in the other comments where you keep repeating the same rubbish. Take a look at any historical newspaper database and you will find lots of such anti Irish sentiments expressed. And if you wish to argue semantics that a newspaper advert or notice is technically not a 'sign' that was already tried in the US by one academic and his claims were debunked by no less than a 14 year old student. www.thedailybeast.com/the-teen-who-exposed-a-professors-myth www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/8th-grader-how-she-proved-no-irish-need-apply-signs-existed-despite-denial-from-prof academic.oup.com/jsh/article-abstract/49/4/829/2412883
I thinks alot of people forget that racism was not exclusive to black people dont het me wrong what happened to black people is terrible but the irish and jews and other races where wholly discriminated against by todays standars jewish and irish people are considered white so to some privileged based on skin color the black people got it the worst i think but other races which were white got discriminated against really badly the only difference is the most defining factor which is skin color its something to separate us and point out but in reality so many other people have been discriminated against throughout history but its like everyone only remembers the stuff black people went through. No disrespect to my black brothers but discrimination happened far and wide and ascended skin color to be honest i think mostly all racism came from Britain. alot of people also forget in America there was also alot of black people with black slaves but definitely the majority white Americans.
Cromwell was a Satan and only ready brek stateless no nation bigot Scots speak of him as human and his troops gave minutes to inquires in government saying Cromwell was a animal and his orders and actions were of the devil
@@davidedbrooke9324 So is "Top man" 😅 Anyway guess that explains why Cromwell's body was dug up and posthumously executed in 1661. Then his remains were hanged in chains at Tyburn and thrown into a pit. And just in case people didn't think he was quite done with - his head was cut off and displayed on a pole for everyone to see. Reckon the man was hated and with good reason.
The 'No Irish wasn't racist. At this time London was still being rebuilt and most of the building work was done by irishmen. I saw the same signs in cafés. It was the mud, cement dust and debris they carried on their clothes that singled them out.
And the total fear that some romanticised head case got a chemistry set & a bit of rebel vinyl for christmas & was working away in the scullery on the latest suspect device !! :-( 🔥 💣
Irish and Jamaican was one race at one time . the no Irish sighs were to target the Irish gypsy Jews trust me . It wasn't to target the anglo Irish settlers fact! Pls we need to stand up now . Jamaicans decend front he tribes of Juda / naoh sons of Simion Same as the gypsy people have now been recognised by the Jewish community as one of the lost tribes of simione to 👌🏾.look it up people will be shocked .
Michael o Dowd,thanks for telling me about the Lydon name Always liked John Lydon he was one of the very few to highlight that creepy old bastard Jimmy Savile. Makes him a hero in my book.So glad he has Irish blood.🍺🍺🍺
Ironic now in London it’s no English, the number of times I have seen signs live room to let Italian house or Polish speaking flat mate wanted.. Woke doesn’t eliminate it legitimises it against white English
@@greatest7391ah you mean the anglo planters and colonists who took land in Ireland and later also in other Countries the British colonised. Nope they were never Irish and didn't consider themselves so
