No-fail Drum Recording - Any Kit, Any Room, Any Genre 

Wow, thanks for such a cool comment.

my two favorite audio channels, Mix Jesus and Locs-4-Drums, meet in this comment. My life is complete.

I also bought Ryan's drum course and it's worth way more than the $17.

I totally agree! I've learned a lot from this channel. No B.S. Keeps it fun but always thorough and exhaustive too! Great instructor! House of Kush also though too!! You guys really have made the last 7 years of my recording journey worth it because there really are a lot of distractions and misinformation but I have never been given the bum steer by either of you fellows and always feel energized and refreshed with the knowledge that you share. Inspired!

I record the choir. XY approach is the same. I never was happy enough while using AB... Only XY gives me feeling I'm making a kind of photo of the choir. All the image in one shoot.

Thanks so much!

Got my thumbs up and sub from this vid. Always loved a 3 mic set up as it sounds more natural. Never was happy with my current set up as the floor tom was always too thin sounding, now I know what to try, thank you!

@@GrooveIsNow where/what is the third mic?

Thanks John. You can use all three or just one of the methods to get the sound.

Thanks! I worked hard on this one!

Thanks Philip and glad you liked the video!

Great natural sounding kit

Thank you Robert!

Thanks so much! The compression really helps to give it that sound.

Glad this video was helpful!

ditto

Thanks! I work hard at it.

Thanks so much! What should I make a video about next?

I just went online to look at this clip... Fkn Genius. Thx.

Nice. Yeah just experiment and you’ll find the right sound.

Yes totally. I developed it to be like the black t-shirt. It always works.

Nice. Let me know if you check this out!

Thanks and glad you got a lot of of my videos!

@@creativesoundlab Oh? Wanted to ask if you have a Patreon?

Sure Darrin. Let me know how it works out. You’ll want to stay low with the mics which means you may be wider than you want. If so then go over the ride to fine tune the width. Also the xy could possibly mean that ceiling treatment might be able to be concentrated over the pair vs with spaced pair.

Thanks so much! I’ve done a lot of testing for the videos and my courses so there’s a lot to talk about.

​@@creativesoundlabI did the drum course and applied what I've learned yesterday. I have a small space where I can record drums and with a couple of runs I got a great first result! I want to thank you for giving me the confidence to get started from a solid place rather than just messing about. I did get lucky once. I had an old Sony stereo mic with a small wire attached. Due to happenstance it ended up on the floor below the drum stool pointing towards the kick and floor. It was a really nice sound! Kick upfront and warm cymbals, perhaps you'd like to try that too. Kind regards!

Thanks Zack!

Your welcome Cole and glad it helped!

I record as two mono tracks. I just like to hard pan two tracks and it gives me control if I need to lower one side slightly of the snare isn’t centered. Sometimes it happens! Nobody’s perfect. Also when exporting tracks it’s nice to have a bunch of mini tracks for a song rather than have to group a few stereo tracks and then export the rest as mono.

Ah good point.

Thanks Paul!

Nice! Let me know how it turns out!

Very cool glad this inspired you!

Great and let me know how it works out. This was just the overheads. Add in the close mics and use the planning of what you get with your OH to help you pan the toms etc. then go wider if you want.

Yeah, those mics are XY I believe. That's a super fast way to set up and get moving quick. I also use this technique with the AEA R88 which is two ribbons inside at the same angle we used here.

Very cool and glad this inspired you to do something new. It’s so simple but a cool detail to mess with.

Yeah totally. I can’t get rid of the tongue no matter how hard I try.

Yes so simple and light

Sweet let me know how it works out.

Haha yeah those 013s are great. I don’t know why they sound so big either.

Creative Sound Lab - curious, do you recall what factors lead to you choosing these vs the other mics in a similar price range; Neumann K184s; Telefunken m60; Beyer mc930; Miktek C5s. Kinda where I’m at. These seem to have a lot of low end, transient detail and impact, and a nice top end, without sounding overly hard or harsh. I’ve been using a pair of 4041s for a long time and they’re really decent mics, but I often find them to be a bit strident. Never an issue where I can’t make a record, but just looking for some new tools. Seems like I always like things that have a bit more of a flattering character such that they sound like a record on the way in. Btw I really appreciate the amazing job you do of exploring recording techniques in detail. So much of what’s out there doesn’t talk about the principles behind mic selection and placement choices. Bravo!! I’ve been at this for many years but continually find useful info on your channel. I wish your channel was around when I started!! Keep up the good work sir!

Very interesting that you hear that in the ride cymbal. I’ve noticed comb filtering in the snare when in a room with low ceilings. Also consider that a cymbal will sound different at different angles so right above will sound more scoop. To the side or back over the floor Tom will sound brighter.

Creative Sound Lab, oh yeah, snare fills are the worst if you have a comb filtering issue.

Yep totally. That’s why I compressed the sound so that you would consider stuff like that. If you have a bad room then this would be a problem so get closer. Same with vocals.

Thank you man!

Thanks Cujo!

Very interesting! Which ones do you use? I've spent years to find some that I like.

@@creativesoundlab I don't personally own any right now, but when I was in school we had the Neumann KM 184s but those are totally out of my budget. I'm looking at maybe trying some more budget friendly ones like the Rode M5s.

@@mjohns908 Check out the Line Audio CM3!

Thanks so much man. You rock and I can only do this because of the courses.

Yeah Frank, totally. You could actually use these ideas as long as you have a stereo bar that lets you move both mics together.