No New Imperial Guard Kits? How Do YOU Make Them Your Own? 

Games Workshop need to be aware that this is potential lost revenue; people will look elsewhere for their guardsman model conversions, and buy far less as a result.

GW create new models that people want? Forget about that, have some more Primaris.

Sad.. Im still hoping for New Steel Legion models...

Love 3rd party stuff!!! Scibor Spellcrow Anvil industry Creature Caster Kromletch Atlantice miniatures Are all great

My Dkok have plenty of women. The people of Krieg are equally expendable in the eyes of the Emperor, whose redemption we all seek.

Get yourself on to anvil industries regiments kits, you'll never go back, so long as your wallet holds out... Although there stuff works out much cheaper if you but whole custom squads/platoons And whenever questioned "those aren't GW miniatures" I just say "the day GW makes plastic Valhallan ice warriors, I'll buy them, in the meantime..."

I'd settle for something like the Space Marine Chapter upgrade kits. Enough heads for a squad, maybe a few torsos and some add-ons unique to the regiment for standards or backpacks or heavy weapons, etc. Would still be a bit costly, but it'd give us maybe more of a chance. And yes, more fighting ladies!

-Get Blue Stuff -Buy a couple kits -Buy epoxy -Make a blue stuff mold -Profit

If you don't care about going to official GW events then there are lots of historic miniature ranges out there that make good guardsmen. A box of 48 Victrix Napoleonic infantry is £20 for instance. Don't bother replacing the muskets (since there are a ton of las-rifle variants anyway)-just find something to be used as special weapons and you're away :) Meridian miniatures are good for special weapons. Napoleonic cannons and late victorian Gatling guns work well for heavy weapons. Just one idea of using a historic range for 40k.

I used Anvil as well to make a WW2 themed desert rats Imperial Guard regiment. Zero complaints here, high quality casts, and even something as simple as a head swap onto a catachan body radically changed the look of the whole model once paint was applied. For an extra 10 quid per squad it was worth it for me.

All Games Workshop needs to do is pretty simple and would open so many possibilities. Run a bitz section on their website. They kinda do it with Forgeworld in terms of "upgrade packs", but being able to go to their website and order 10 chem dog heads, 10 catachan weapons and a box of 10 cadian troopers (for example) would result is so much new variation in army style. The Guard army i want to kitbash would be so expensive and i'd just end up with hundreds of then useless bits i'd never be able to use due to half the model being missing. Kinda off putting. The only thing i would say in regards to 3rd party bits - if you plan on going to any GW hosted event, their "event packs" state the models have to be made from GW items. Now, i dont know how much checking they do (did none at warhammer fest that i saw) but i wouldn't go overboard with changes otherwise you run the risk of getting noticed and not being able to play.

>this video comes out in 2017 >nearly 2020, and no major new guard stuff >feelsbadman.png

3 years after the words "new imperial guard army" and the IG players wait still. We are truly honorary xenos

Goddamn it after watching this video I'm now hell bent on outfitting my entire catachan army with fedoras...

There is a place based in Germany called "megabitzshop" that sells individual bits which could be useful for making armies like this. Started using it meself once I found it, P&P is a fiver when under 30 quid, but it's worth it. Sad I still gotta get the full, re-breather style helmets from forge world directly.

I like to think of Cadian's, as a sort of "Standard kit" for Guard. Most worlds would just get a standard Imperial kit, in perhaps their own colors. If the regiment I want to represent is specified as having a particular look I will try to find the models to bash into that look, but if I am just bulking out guard, I have no issue with Cadians with a different scheme as a home brew regiment.

If I had more money, I'm thinking of grabbing some slouch hats from Victorian miniatures and making my own ANZAC themed imperial guardsmen

Just went on Anvil and ended up spending a little over £20 on some new heads and cloaks, cheers for the recommendation!

*The Gw-Inquisition wants to know your location*

Still waiting for Krieg models...

Theres talk that as part of their gender push they are gonna release plastic sisters as part of their 12th codex release early in the new year with intention they could also be used with kitbashing female guard and that was the reason the kickstarter for a female sisters like army was cancelled. Of course take with a large dash of salt as plastic sisters are to the tabletop what Half Life 3 is to PC gamers.

Those Victoria miniatures look amazing. Those are some great Earthshaker cannons right there. Great video. I'm gonna look into these bits to add to my renegades.

I converted mine to have boltguns. I used the cloaks with the sniper gun bits in the command box, cut the sniper gun off and had the guns in place. Now I'm using them as acolytes

Surely just releasing an upgrade kit for certain armies would be a good option? A box with verious head, weapon, torso swaps wouldn't be that hard. Then people could just buy that and sprinkle those bits amoungst the catachan or cadian kits to create alternative builds.

Anvil Industries are brilliant, I've used their highly customisable models for my Inquisitorial Acolytes and the mould quality is excellent, better than anything I've got from Games Workshop. You could easy make any of the main regiments or make your own custom regiment from Anvil's range. The kits aren't that much more expensive than GW kits if you buy full platoons rather than than individual bits as well, cheaper than buying metal GW models anyway.

Love Anvil Industries they have a great product but be aware the heads don't fit on cadian torsos easily the neck is both wider and taller than cadian heads so you will need to do some filing down before they fit but once on they look fantastic

Took 3 years but hey now we have plastic krieg and a new upgrade sprue

We need an updated version with the new kits and compatability issues between different kits.

I can see your point, but with green stuff and a visit or two to a bits bin, you can build anything you can imagine.

Victoria Miniatures is awesome

I take any opportunity to blow up Anvil. Great quality, fantastic service and, for smaller projects, surprisingly affordable. It would be great if they started doing more vehicles though. I heard good things about kromlech for tanks.

In my opinion, GW could learn a lot from how Anvil Industry does its Regiments range. By having a decent pool of interchangeable parts they create Massive scope for creating distinctive Regiments. GW could either do something similar with selected parts or just do what we've all been secretly hoping for which is make 10 trooper squad boxes & command squads of the all the Major Regiments (Tallarn, Mordians, Valhallan, Vostroyan, Steel Legion etc) whose parts would be all interchangeable so we could kitbash easily from official kits we can use in store without penalty. At the moment I use Anvil Industry, Mad Robot Miniatures and Victoria Miniatures as my primary alternative for human troops as those companies are serving an area GW is conspicuously ignoring. The Guard are supposed to be the most numerous of the Imperium's armed forces and yet they have so little options (in plastic). It is actually really disappointing that the lessons they learned when making the first plastic space marine box sets came (i.e. having sets with interchangeable parts encourages creativity) has been forgotten. I personally am tired of Catachans (models are ancient and ugly compared to their command squad) and of the Ubiquitous Cadians who are pretty much the Ultramarines of the Guard (thrust down your throat at every opportunity). Give us variety! There are dozens of different pattern Lasgun, let's see some! Give us some different legs and torsos and for the love of the Golden Throne so more dynamic poses (I would love some guardsmen in a bayonet charge!) Or even lying prone or enough kneeling legs in a box to have two ranks of firing troops! (Some bits sites sell kneeling legs for £2.99!)

Ideally they would make about four webstore exclusive Upgrade sprues for twenty troops, and include a sheet in the Base Infantry box advertising the option. Probably not going to happen though!

I've done an infantry squad and HW squad with the Renegade Militia Conversion set torsos and filled in the chaos symbols with green stuff. Not painted yet, but they've got a Mad Max / Waterworld kinda look.

the redcowl head is a Skitarii Ranger head. i use them all the time for my Necromunda Cawdor gangers

I totally agree, my infantry are mostly from Anvil, with a few bits from elsewhere. I actually don't care about playing my Guard army at GW events, there are plenty of clubs and tournaments that don't specify you use GW models. And if I did want to play at my local GW, I could just bring my tanks - a Russ army is entirely feasible now.

Hey Bud, responding to your request for 3rd party reviews. Victoria Miniatures... Where do I begin. The only con I can think of is shipping costs from Down Under. It is pricey. Especially if you're ordering 10 parts for a squad, shipping is going to cost more than the items. Its a case of how much you value the individual feel the conversion give to your army, over spending money. Now, the pros.... These sculpts are beautiful! I love them. I'm currently starting a Praetorian spearhead detachment using the pith helmet heads on tank crew. These heads fit in with the scale of Cadians quite nicely. The casts themselves, I would say rival Forgeworld. I've never ordered from FW, I am too poor to do that, but these heads are orgasmic on all the right levels. I'm not sure if this is commonplace with Vic's company or not, but last time I ordered, I got some free goodies too. Namely, 4 female heads and a dress torso, meaning I have FREE parts, to convert a second tank commander as a commissar etc. (Officers peak cap being one of the heads included), who is also a woman! I would recommend Victoria Miniatures 100%. Excellent quality and I'm yet to have a problem with them. Love you guys Vic

Oh boy... I wish I had known about Anvil Industries before I bought and assembled all my guardsmen and veterans. Im tempted to try and at least swap the heads.

Was thinking of taking a stab at one or two troops from my Only War regiment, The Halcyon Dusk Riders, but it's remarkably hard to find the right cowboy parts.

The indigans don’t look too bad. Neophytes with Vanguard heads.

Want to make your IG look distinct and be affordable? Do what I did; use plastic Cadians as a base and throw in copious amounts of 3rd party bits. Mad Robot is my go to as a Yank, and there seem to be multiple companies in the UK. Also, do a unique color scheme.

Statuesque heads are indeed great , the sculpt is nice and the casting is high quality ( better than those " fine " cast from GW that's for sure ) . I'm not totally sold on the fact they're in metal though , as i've heard there's more issues when painting metal than plastic , need to give it a try !

You really missed an important point regarding space marines, which is that there are many plastic kits for Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, as well as upgrade kits for other chapters, and the same doesn't exist for Imperial Guard. I suspect many people would be happy with some simple upgrade kits with different heads, cloaks and other bits to represent some unique Guard regiments. Wouldn't be useful for some regiments (eg Tallarn, Vostroyan), but would be a reasonable compromise at least.

I've started a Genecult army and I'm going to use Catachan guys. Going to try to mix parts a bit more to make them more diverse

14:17 those field hats look like cowboy hats. That's it. I'm sold. I'm going to get some of those sprews and make cowboy/hill billy sped marines or guardsmen.

I'm a manic when it comes to this stuff, no model in my Emperor's Children army is standard. Kromlech are awesome for Orks and Chaos. Toughest Girls in the Galaxy are great for full 3rd party stand-ins for female troops, Dark elves/Eldar, Tau, Guard, Daemonettes. Spellcrow are quite new, but have a good range for Marines and Chaos Marines. Wargame Exclusive produce awesome alternative sculpts for Characters. Maxmini have tons of heads, torsos and legs for Imperial Guard, but also a huge armoury of ballistic and las weapons. Creature Caster are fantastic if you think greater Daemons should be a little bit grander!

I'm just annoyed because I read ALOT of Impguard fluf, I'm never going to have the 10bilion to make a proper Deathkrops army or re-create the massive tank armys of some of these books..

Agreeing on the paint scheme discussion and that it doesn't make Cadian models not look like Cadians, but I think it's inverted for vehicles. Go look at the Wyvern on the webstore; it's done up in Valhallan colours and it looks so different to all the other vehicles, even the Hydra that it's 95% the same plastic as. I think that's why different colour Space Marines work and Guardsmen don't; vehicles and marines have very large flat surfaces on which the paint scheme is the primary defining aspect and they're primarily one colour; armour. Guardsmen meanwhile are smaller and more greebled models that are primarily at least two colours; flak jacket and fatigues, and then most will have boots or skin tone or even their guns in a different colour. TBH I think the Genestealer Cults Acolytes box is enough to do Savlar chem-dogs as shown in that image. They wouldn't have exactly the right torsos but the head are good. And I think GW out to be capitalizing on that; it's literally just a regular Cadian squad with the headswaps from the Acolytes upgrade sprue included. They could easily sell upgrade sprues for other regiments; longcoat legs and headswaps for Miasman Redcowls, for example. Mordians are basically just one of the torsos from the Command squad, they could probably make a sprue of ten of that easily.

OMG, I've saying this for years and people look at me like I'm crazy. They have opened up the doors to us to create a IG that we want and make it our own. Some people just don't have imagination.

@KiriothTV 4.03 I think his head comes from the Wildwood Rangers from Warhammer Fantasy range.

VOR(void?) had some (an?) excellent lady catachans. Don't remember who but some studio bought both models and system wholesale.

Honestly without shilling too much for GW. The different sets are fairly cross compatible to a good point for kitbashing I was looking at using lots of empire stuff for my incoming IG army. Sadly Fantasy/sigmar/40K if you want female bits it has to be elf bits. Although come to think of it wytch torsos may look half decent on a guard army.

I don't really feel mine need to be visually distinct like that. I'd like an easier way to get the 'not a massive aquila' side of the banner to not be Cadian, but aside from that, the Cadian models give a reasonable enough 'generic infantry' feel, which suits my headcanon for my IG fine. They're far from home, never going back and the best they can really hope for is that whatever kills them does it instantly and painlessly.

That miasman has a chaos cultist head

The head from the Miasman Redcowl comes from the Chaos Cultist set, but with the small pieces at the mouthbreather removed. Maybe we need to take a look at Black Powder range from Warlord games for certain regiments.

I'm disappointed but i'm not really surprised. I'm hopingthey at least update the Tallarns, Mordians and Valhallans, but I guess I shouldn't set my hopes up too high.

Some new Cadians would go down nicely for me!

Hi mate these kit bashes are designed to get you to buy three infantry squads to only.make one it's money grab

I run pewter only for my guard.... I have to to run steel legion. And that frankly pisses me off

I just give them knight helmets and skitarii vanguard helmets. Works a charm.

I Remember the Old 80's Imperial Guard Box $40 with Giant "Las cannons," on Shoulders. GW needs to make $150 Imperial Regiment Box Set. With Extra Heads (like Bretronian British WW2 helmets) Weapons, Backpacks and Torso's. With the Sell out of GENE-stealler Box (with Space wolves) ?? Mix with Possible Makes for Marauder Guard (like in Blackstone Fortress) or Penal Legions. The Limited Ed Female Comm. officer can lead them.... What am I Expecting this is GW..... they would NEVER do this..... Stock Price Driven.....???

The head on the recowl looks like a Wood elf gladeguard head with the rebreather from the command box.

If Guard ever get upgrade sprues for infantry I would cry in tears of joy. It'll never fucking happen but I would cry. Just have Plastic Cadians, Plastic Catachans, and Plastic Kriegers and then you'd fill out the full range of soldiers in kevlar, soldiers in shirts and vests, and soldiers in fatigues. Then put resin upgrade sprues on Forgeworld. Make it just like the Secutarii sprues. Take a Krieg, put a sword at his hip and change his head and now he's a Ventrillian Noble. Take a Catachan, give him a camo cloak and arms holding sniper gear and now he's a Tanith first-and-only. Take a Cadian, replace his arms and head and now he's a Tallarn. Obviously I would object to paying another 40 fucking dollars for a conversion sprue but if it'll get GW to make Guard at least a little more modular I'd be very happy.

I've got currently got a Mono 4k, Mono X 6k and an 8k 3d printer on the way this summer.. There are stunning stl sculpts available so I don't need GW to do anything for me at this point.. 3d printers go brrrrrr. I'll not sending money GWs way this year aside from some Necromunds stuff, tough break GW shareholders, you can kick rocks.

it would be cool if they did a focus on making a few boxes that let you choose different uniform types for your armies. so instead of a box being everything buy a box with a legs and bodies, then a set of heads and then the arms. imagine the variation with just 4 of each? just a simple 3 or 4 base bodys and 2 sets of heads and 2 sets of weapons per kit and you have a massive amount of variation. just standard mobile infantry (cadian basic), Greatcoats (like armageddon and valhallans), hench Savages (catachans and ork hunters) and Void born(enclosed space suit looking dudes) then choose from infantry helmet, gas mask helmet, space helmets, fur hats, turbans, peaked hats or feathered hats (and of course no hats at all) and an arm set from muscled, mobile infantry, Dress uniform, heavy coat or loose fabric if each box had one body uniform, 2 different sets of heads and 2 sets of arms. it would be pretty easy to make these kits print on demand, or even sell the specs so people can print their own (i know, pie in the sky, but this is exactly the right product for them to dip the toes)

Anvil industries are tip top.

I wanna see plastic vostroyan firstborn. They were awesome in metal but soooo much better as plastic. Not sure that's gonna happen though :(

GW just needs to bring back their bits service. Problem solved

By not releasing new guard they keep shooting themselves in the foot. They only need to replace the catachan infantry squad and keep the finecast in production for the others.

Enough with GW "gum ball" heads! Get very affordable Wargames Atlantic guards!

Good take on things. I have always liked the guard as they provide the true human element within the narrative. One reason I'm not sold on AoS.

found anvil regiment's shoulder pads instantly make something look more 40k.

To me all space marines look the same. Expect like 2 different ones.

before wargames factory went throught distubtuion hell i bought a whole army. they are a hadr plastic kit which to the vetern will get nastalga kick

Who’s getting replaced by Primaris? List them here to shame GW!

Doubtful it'll be of use to anyone, but here are a couple of 3D-printable heads I made for my praetorians. I for one just cut of pockets and shoulder pads of Cadians, and redo their rifle stocks with Greenstuff, but they'd probably alternatively go pretty well with the Mordian bodies GW sells, if you're going for old-school PG. drive.google.com/open?id=0B2icFx9jvRMcSnBsWE0zR1dYckU

tbf, forgeworld has been doing a good job supporting the Death Korps of Krieg (Granted in resin, but they still look great)

That IG page spread is fuckin' hilarious!! Here's what you could make....... if you buy 36 separate kits from a dozen different ranges and 2 different game systems! lolz Ge Dub suck soooooo hard!

Ventrillian Nobles only need one other other bit to make them from the Cadians and that's the head. And the armgeddon Ork Hunter is just a Catachan model with some sort of shoulder pad bit. I feel like if your willing to go shoping for bits you can make some of them work. The Chim dogs, Miasman, and Indigan are not so easly done.

Anvil are great, I made a squad of Praetorian Guard for nostalgia sake.

For the woman in the imperial guards . I remember reading that they represented almost 10% of the guards ans are mostly in all femal squad

Aunt Vickie's minis and bits are the best. Never had an issue. I really hope GW does give us something new in the near future. I'm ok without it being right away though I'd rather it had been. They did promise that even if you got a new codex and not yet new stuff, that you would at some point in the near future. I'm only hoping they weren't lying and planed to keep to it.

I swapped out the Cadian heads for some Victorian heads from Victoria Miniatures. They have those nice pith helmets. I hope if I ever go to a Games Workshop store that they won't be too picky about it.

Does anyone know where I can get a wolf skull helmet for a wolf priest?

Anyone else just want a Praetorian Guard army?

I have Spellcrow heads on my ultramarine scout company, and I have used some of their vehicle upgrades. all have been fantastic. Scribor Have some great parts too, I have a WIP Inquisition land raider that looks like a rolling church thanks to them.

There's so many third part models out there. Fuck GE models. Mad Robot makes great models for Guard

gw should make an IG upgrade sprue. would be easy money for them imo

You can make entire armies of this stuff, but you need to use cheaper 3rd party stuff. I’ve got a Chem-Dog army utilising 3rd party bits and it wasn’t at all overpriced. If you don’t want to use 3rd party stuff to make one of these armies.. well, as Kirioth hinted at: RIP you and your wallet.

I gave up and got a bunch of WW2 British soldiers in the proper scale.

My biggest regret was starting a stock Cadian army. At least I didn't paint them in the 8th Cadian beige and green... Now, I have too many of them to feasibly do something else with my Guardsmen.

One major difference between Space Marines and Guards is that in the lore Space Marines use power armour based on the same basic patterns with some details individual to specific chapters while Guard regiments are described as a having huge variations in apperance. The modells should, in my opinion, represent that or the lore and fluff becomes basically pointless.

I've seen someone done ventrilian nobles

When i first started gaming there was a book gw did where you could buy every individual part you wanted it was made and sent to the shop for you. It stopped purley down to proffit so you had to buy more. It was loads better when you could

I love Anvil Ind. I've been using their ExoLords line a for my Raven Guard. I am a modern military fan so I adore all the little pouches, rifle mods etc. I actually use GW MKIII spare bolter mags, Sanguinary Guard jump packs with MKIV's ,Anvils bolter sights and spare mags, Imperial Guards bits and Scouts heads , sternguars bolters etc to give my models personality. I used Spellcrow side doors for my Rhinos and a bunch of xenos skulls on the Razorback. Sometimes I'd just buy a whole brand new squad on ebay for bits. As you said there are options, even with GW merchandise, but it takes time to research and moolah to buy a bunch of bits.

Type into Google... Raumjager. They’re really good looking Steel Legion alternatives and you get 24 to a box for £25.

Go to (puppets war), there good for the money.

Bit of a recommendation for anyone looking for IG alternatives who stumbles across this:- Victioria miniatures are nice, esp if you want to add female guards to your army, scale wise come in about same size as elysians or kreig from FW, lot less flash though. Anvil really nice, just ordered a few bits for test and conversion and will be ordering more, detailed minimal flashing. Zing, good for random odds and sods, esp for vehicles, found them invaluable for getting rid of the church on the back of my baneblade and stormblade (a hatch, a vent and some plastic card), only negative is they come with big blocks of resin on some of the smaller items but it's nothing that can't be cut around These are the ones I've used most for IG infantry and vehicle conversions to make a decent variation of regiments... oh as a side if you want a simple way to make trench coat guards a cadians field jacket can be extended down with green stuff to make a fairly decent trench coat (if you play in store and want to avoid being banned from using models cause of 3rd party parts)

the savlar aren't too too bad if you switch up the torsos and legs of basic neophytes and guardsmen you get twenty men for the two boxes. great video and totally agree with you. hell even bringing back bits orders if they are going to focus the book on kitbashing...

I made a pretonnian guard army by using Cadian body's, empire pistolier heads but cut the flash hiders off the lasguns, added empire pistol barrels to the end of laspistols, very unique but as pointed out , VERY expensive