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Steam Input is getting better and better, Valve's Steam Input is a powerful tool that allows users to customize the way their controllers work. With the Steam Deck, Valve is making Steam Input more accessible than ever before. Steam Input is being used to train people on how to use it
The Steam Deck is teaching people how to use Steam Input by making it easy to experiment with different settings. As people use Steam Input, they're giving Valve feedback, which is helping to make the tool even better. Valve is using the Steam Deck to push people to their software
Valve is using the Steam Deck to push people to their software, including Steam Input. The Steam Deck is a trojan horse for Steam Input, and Valve is hoping that people will get hooked on Steam Input and want to use it on other devices. Valve is the top innovator in the controller space
Valve is the top innovator in the controller space. The Steam Deck is a hit, and it's only going to get better with time. Valve is working on making Steam OS available for any hardware, which will open up the door for even more innovation.
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@NerdNest 10 месяцев назад

Get your own Backbone! go.playbackbone.com/e/nerdnest

@carlthewinner 10 месяцев назад

I love the backbone! I have used it a ton to play my PS5 Geforece Now and Steam Link. Great little device! I also convinced my daughters and wife to play Diablo Imortal as well. :) oh yes and Resident Evil plays great!!!

@carlthewinner 10 месяцев назад

I am glad Backbone is a sponsor! I have one for me and one for each kid. :)

@pablieto-veganson 10 месяцев назад

Gotta say, this is quality content.

@tornado723 10 месяцев назад

My steam deck OLED stopped working after 3 days

@finraziel 10 месяцев назад

I have a similar controller from Razer, but haven't used it much because phone screens are just too small imho. Don't get fooled by the big diameter that is shown in the spec sheet, phone screens are very long and if you stream a 16:9 game to it then your 6.5" screen may effectively only show the game at about 5.5". One other point though, I appreciate you need sponsors and I'm glad they are willing to sponsor you, but it's a little nasty how unclear your sponsor spots are. Have had that a couple times now in your videos where I'm just slowly wondering why you're being so positive about this thing and slowly realizing that oh... You're doing a sponsor... You only say it's a sponsor at the end. Don't know if they pay more if you do it like this but it's kind of scummy.

@IMan_93_ 10 месяцев назад

I love the way they operate as a company and the way they create. They don’t always hit 100% of the time, and nobody does, but man when they do is it something special.

@InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад

Yep, just copy other companies, get sued for copyright infringement, and claim innovation, lol.

@N00btr00per 10 месяцев назад

@@InitialFailure im not up to date. Who sued them for which product? Is the lawsuit still going? If not: who won? Thanks! :) Edit: my bad.

@jeevejavari8461 10 месяцев назад

@@N00btr00perWolfire games is suing them. They're a known patent troll company that goes around suing everyone and trying to extort royalties out of them. They've been successful against Sony, Nintendo, and some other brands. They're just grifters and not a legitimate hardware company. It's a stupid lawsuit

@InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад

@jeevejavari8461 let's not minimize one suit and poison the well, there's many others. I get that fanboys gonna fanboy, but Valve isn't paying you to run interference 😀

@jtinch94 10 месяцев назад

@@InitialFailure you failed to answer the question though…

@IcyXzavien 10 месяцев назад

Steam Input is the biggest reason why I got the Steam Deck. The ability to remap the controls or include gyro is really appealing to me.

@crestofhonor2349 10 месяцев назад

All the major handhelds have gyro configuration now

@IcyXzavien 10 месяцев назад

Good.

@dege10000 10 месяцев назад

Steam input can make use of most extra features in other brands joysticks, for example: the ds4 touchpad can be assigned actions or even action wheels and joy cons can be used separately or combined. Also, it has been announced that the SteamDeck oled will be getting wake on Bluetooth, witch until now was a console exclusive feature

@CFWhitman 10 месяцев назад

Nintendo came up with the cross shaped directional pad for their Game & Watch series of handheld games. They even patented the design. However, the patent did little to discourage competitors because they simply had to use a different shape (like a circle) for their own directional pads. Nintendo couldn't stop them because there was prior art in that the Mattel Intellivision console had circle shaped directional pads. They had no markings or raised portions, but they were essentially directional pads.

@caleasthetic 10 месяцев назад

But sometimes patent laywers goof real hard. like wiht the back paddles. Theire where already previous devices or controllers that had paddle shaped back buttons. Yet corsair still got the patent. Even after it was known that there was prior art. That is also why valve eventaully won the apeal. (atleast tho my knowledge they won).

@Healthy_Toki 9 месяцев назад

Tell that to all the Sega Master System owners who had to play with a mushy d-pad while nintendo was defending their patent.

@CFWhitman 9 месяцев назад

@@Healthy_Toki Just because someone made an inferior directional pad doesn't mean they couldn't make a good one. The patent hadn't expired when the Genesis/MegaDrive was released, and that had a good directional pad.

@CapsuleCorpDude 10 месяцев назад

valve is such an awesome company. The fact that we are getting more storage for the price on this new revision steam deck is insane. Also, just all the little revisions that they made to it. They could’ve just slapped the OLED screen on it and called it a day but no, they improved a lot of other things as well.

@sumomaster5585 10 месяцев назад

great device, but not so easy to pirate games there lol

@lucio-ohs8828 10 месяцев назад

@@sumomaster5585 it's a pc. just pirate games the same way as pc and add it as a non steam game

@jase276 9 месяцев назад

Those of us who got the "test model", ie the LCD model, got the shaft though.

@gungrave10 9 месяцев назад

@@jase276 don't think it like that. We were grateful for the early adopter of the system. Just like how we should be grateful towards the early adopter of ryzen. We would not have all those kinds of improvement if you didn't buy the system. Thanks for being the early adopter of the steam deck.

@reiniermoreno1653 7 месяцев назад

@@sumomaster5585it's hard to run games on Linux and you expect is gonna be easy to pirate them? You must wait to companies to support steamOS officially for that

@CharlesTersteeg 10 месяцев назад

Bill's old videos on configuring steam input on controllers was invaluable when i made a layout for the lord of the rings online. it's truly the best feature of steam input.

@ONEWONDERSHOW 10 месяцев назад

the templates are awesome too

@ToastedSynapseGaming 10 месяцев назад

I love Steam Input. I sometimes find it as enjoyable to 'program' in a controller scheme for a game as actually playing the game (there have been games where I would spend more time on controls than in the game at the start). One recent thing I'm proud of is my Diablo 4 (toggle to M&K with a button) config, which my PS5 friend that I play with hates, because he can't hover over items, skills, link stuff in chat quick or even chat. You can't even organize your chests as they will be placed and taken out at the first available spot when you press [A]. With a mouse, you just pick them up and drop them where you want. All the menus are on a virtual Steam menu so no more bumpers to go to other screens and much more. I love it :) - I also want to give a shoutout to Steam's Notes, which are very helpful so you don't have to alt-tab or use your phone to check something. I have some of those set up too. But as for copy-ing Valve... You're right... We're seeing these new handhelds coming out that do try and pack their devices with gyro, trackpads and all sorts of extra buttons. So from a hardware perspective they may be comparable, but they are no where near when it comes to software, that's for sure.

@leogil5933 10 месяцев назад

Hello, Could you Tell where could i find Guide or content for setting controls right New world i am trying but the menu interaction primarily Mapa is a real pain in the ass

@NerdNest 10 месяцев назад

I did that for new world on the steam controller, just search my channel

@xMRxLAMAx 10 месяцев назад

I had spent hours in the controller configurator without even a game open Last time I was fiddling with it, I figured out a way to take advantage of the ‘hip fire’ setting on the analog trigger, without outputting the analog trigger pull, but still being able to use the analog trigger with a slow pull

@caleasthetic 10 месяцев назад

But unfortunatly theire are not alot ofo people who want to spend hours to learn steaminput. I am also one of these so called nutcases that spends hours on making a config to get gyro and flick stick in most shooters. And i still try to learn as much as i can about steam input so i caan also make my tracpads do multiple things with modeshifs. But one of my bigest gripes is that steam can be buggy. A few fays ago i made a config for evil west. For the gyro i had to swithc the sensitivity on the ads mode by ading a layer on fullpull, but sometimes the alyer did not seem to unload when i let go of the trigger. Wich messed up my gyro and flick stick sensitivty. Also theire is still a save bug that will not let you save directly after each cahnge. You need to back out of the menu completly and then go back in to save the changes. This is still going on after month.

@KuittheGeek 10 месяцев назад

One of the reasons the Steam Controller was so amazing was that it actually sent the configuration down to the firmware level. So when you pressed a button, it would actually respond with the key it was mapped to, it didn't have to go through a translation layer like you would see with the numerous controller to keyboard programs for the PS3 and PS4 controllers. It didn't add latency because it was legitimately just sending "w" when you pushed the stick forward, instead of sending the analog axis value, then determining which axis it was, and checking against some threshold value, then finally converting it to "w". Yes, that doesn't take that much time, but it still takes time, thus adding latency. Cutting out the middle man made the Steam Controller so amazing. I really wish Valve had kept the hardware enabled dual stage triggers. You can still get it through software, but I don't think it is as good. Those with the gyro and touch pads made the Steam Controller feel so good and it was a lot of fun to play with.

@alflo8970 9 месяцев назад

I realized how incredible steam input is, when installing mods to my games on the deck. Often mod menus are tied to hotkeys like "insert", "f11", "f12" etc. and I used a wireless keyboard at first to manage that up until I realized I could simply reconfigure the backpedals to the hotkeys I need.

@TS-fb5tc 10 месяцев назад

When I first got the deck I wasn’t really fond of the trackpads. I felt they took too much space and that I won’t be using them. But after playing zombie army 4 and doom 3 with the right trackpad for camera control and pressing the trackpad for shooting, I can’t see myself go back to a joystick for camera control. They really are awesome

@InitialDL84 10 месяцев назад

I'm playing Doom (2016) on my deck, I need to try that setup out!

@werpu12 10 месяцев назад

Yes thats one of the problems the og Steam controller had people did not give the trackpads any chance and dismissed the controller. Once you have figured them out you never want a gamepad without them again!

@DoubleJumpPunch 10 месяцев назад

My favorite setup is to raise sensitivity so a full edge-to-edge swipe does a 360, cut vertical scale down to 40 or lower, increase smoothing and use with Gyro. Trackpad does fast, controllable horizontal turning while gyro does fine aim. The closest you can get to the feeling of a mouse, IMO.

@ThePaperKhan 10 месяцев назад

The trackpads in my opinion really help especially for older games or ones that were not designed for a controller in mind. Thanks to the near effortless of assigning controls, I comfortably beat a full playthrough of Elder Scrolls III with little issues camera or control wise when I was traveling. I've also noticed this helps with its sequel, Oblivion, as you no longer have to get frustrated with trying to move the mouse cursor over your potion menu so you won't die.

@werpu12 10 месяцев назад

@@ThePaperKhan Absolutely I am playing oblivion atm exactly that way, the quick menu on the left trackpad is superb. But also you can play adventure games, visual novels etc... liberally any mouse centric game that way, and I have not started even with wii games emulation which rely on kind of pointers to the screens like mario galaxy!

@PeachIceCreamy 10 месяцев назад

You know that USB port on the front of the index? Valve said themselves that they included it for the community to develop their own additions for the index on. They released a VR headset with features inviting and encouraging community development. Absolutely amazing.

@shm6273 10 месяцев назад

The steam deck, is the single most impressive piece of Hardware I have owned, I am a software engineer who studied along olympiad finalists, I am not easy to impress. It is a dream, truly, it is so good that I can notice the effects physically! I literally go on the treadmill with it. It is more powerful than many PCs and the 800p resolution is perfect! And the fact that it is fucking comfortable unlike the switch which is a nightmare to hold with my man hands is amazing.

@02337755 10 месяцев назад

The Steam Deck is the most comfortable controller I’ve ever used.

@applehazeva2739 10 месяцев назад

Ikr? They need to remove the screen and and make a legit Steam Deck one

@02337755 10 месяцев назад

@@applehazeva2739 Yes. It was very surprising.

@UmVtCg 10 месяцев назад

Really? Because the big screen in the middle kinda ruins it. It is the most comfortable handheld I've ever held though.

@ONEWONDERSHOW 10 месяцев назад

it's crazy how comfortable it is especially with the weight

@xXYannuschXx 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, weird considering how uncomfortable it looks though. Everyone I showed my Steamdeck was surprised how ergonomic it is.

@cosmocalypse3708 10 месяцев назад

I've got 5 Steam Controllers. One is on it's last leg and has already had the bumper mechanism replaced several times with 3D printed parts. I still have 2 controllers new in box, never opened.

@sagepirotess6312 10 месяцев назад

I got 3. 2 still new in box. Other I have, works but rarely use.

@Kaltsukka 10 месяцев назад

I'm hanging on the edge with my second and last controller since my first's bumper broke. 😭

@cosmocalypse3708 10 месяцев назад

@@Kaltsukka you can order the part to fix it from a 3d printing site. $10 fix.

@t.fernbach602 10 месяцев назад

My very first Steam Deck arrived about two hours ago. Currently installing Dragon's Dogma. Very excited :)

@sairamts 10 месяцев назад

That's awesome! Enjoy!

@iCognito95 10 месяцев назад

Enjoy the product!

@suiton20 10 месяцев назад

Awesome. Don’t forget to shift mode your 1-4 keys so you can quick use your items

@JustinY2324 10 месяцев назад

I just started it on my oled switch, l0l. have fun!

@dirtysink373 10 месяцев назад

Sweet, I am playing DD on my steam deck at the moment. What a wonderful piece of hardware

@PapaC92 10 месяцев назад

Love these style of videos bill! Keep up the great work

@RizalBoon 10 месяцев назад

For other console makers, they are stuck with their new inputs if not adopted each time they innovate on their own because game dev might not be interested in it. However Steam being naturally a PC has an advantage on making a custom input without ruining game dev's original intended input. Last innovation that was adopted universally was the PS2 controller layout i guess.

@thebravegallade731 9 месяцев назад

Not even truely universal cause xbox style exists (that nintendo also uses) and dual analog technically is preceeded by the virtial boy.

@DragunBreath 10 месяцев назад

I am very much looking forward to a steam controller 2 based on the deck's controls.

@bibabutzemann5661 10 месяцев назад

me too!

@InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад

Well, Valve was sued for the Steam controller 1 due to copyright infringement. I'm assuming they'll base it on some other company's controller like before, not the deck.

@elmergloo3259 10 месяцев назад

@@InitialFailurecan you explain more? This is the first I’ve heard of this. Who sued Valve for making the Steam Controller 1? It’s so unique I’m having trouble understanding who they were infringing.

@InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад

@@elmergloo3259 each time I post a link on what I'm talking about, it gets deleted.

@t3arki113r 10 месяцев назад

Dob’t quote me: But I believe the patent was for the “Rear buttons” on the back of the controller. So Valve changed it up and made them more flat and called them “Back pedals”. This why they never call them “Rear or back buttons”

@GamingDad 10 месяцев назад

I'd argue that the best part of the steam controller was the haptic feedback. It made the trackpads come alive and gave me important input in regards to button presses.

@collide618 10 месяцев назад

"There is a new king when it comes to video game controller Innovations and its valve, and it's been that way for a long time, but that hasn't always been the case." This opening sentence broke my brain lol. Great video!

@BallyBoy95 9 месяцев назад

11:00 - Kudos to the inventor of flick sticks.

@daveSoupy 9 месяцев назад

I loved the Steam Controller. Easily my favorite ever. It was so frustrating when my friends would get them, use it for maybe 20 minutes, and then discard it. So much was right about that controller but it was too different for people to see just how good it was.

@joedunleavy841 10 месяцев назад

The first console to support an analogue stick was actually the Saga Saturn when they released a 3D control pad for it.

@CFWhitman 10 месяцев назад

Technically, the first console that had an analog stick was the 1292 Advanced Programmable Video System released in 1978. Of course there was also the Atari 5200 in 1982, and then there was the Vectrex, also in 1982, which actually had a self-centering analog joystick (the first one on a console that was really usable because of the self-centering). I actually remember this console being readily available in department stores. The first analog thumbstick (rather than "full-sized" joystick) was apparently the Dempa XE-1 AP controller for the Sega Genesis in 1989. Only a few games supported its analog features, though some of those games were made by Sega. The Saturn 3D Control Pad was released about two weeks after the Nintendo64 with its controller in 1996. Technically, though, the Nintendo64 controller wasn't analog (though it did a pretty good imitation).

@joedunleavy841 10 месяцев назад

@@CFWhitman I did not know that. Thanks for the history lesson

@TheL1arL1ar 10 месяцев назад

So between the 3D pad and the DualShock 1…I wonder because crash 2 already had support. And the ps1 had the jog con for ridge racer and for rage racer aka ridge racer 3…analog steering or left stuck thingy….

@bulldogsoccer222 10 месяцев назад

The dream is fully implementing Steam Input into games on Steam. Where when you make changes to the controls the game recognizes that and reflects on the controller that you're using seamlessly. It would be a final step in making controls truly personalized. Instead of mapping buttons on a controller to buttons on a keyboard or whatever, you map the actual in-game action. Honestly, this might be a thing already. But if it is, not a single game that I play uses it.

@xXYannuschXx 10 месяцев назад

Seeing how good the Steamdeck is and how much they improved it with the OLED version, I am REALLY excited for the new Valve VR headset.

@cherokee180c0 9 месяцев назад

Getting the Steam Deck OLED for Christmas. Thanks for all the great content useful for a Steam newbie.

@Orochimarufan1900 10 месяцев назад

Even without Valve controllers, Steam Input is an absolute savior with normal controllers (especially non-XBox) due to the patchy controller support in a lot of PC games

@AllieRX 10 месяцев назад

Valve seriously needs to release a Steam Controller 2.0. I want those Steam Deck controls for my desktop PC and for when I play my Deck docked when I'm on a trip.

@zainshaikh527 10 месяцев назад

Why I wanted the steam deck so badly. I was locked in to the Xbox due to my cousin sharing my profile and me buying gamepass anyway and needing a Blu-ray player resulting in me getting a series x. The OLED model just happened to come out at the same time and when I desperately needed to upgrade my display and wanted to play indies, cprgs and action RPGs of old, while I already learned how to emulate on my phone and desktop. The device came in right when I was able to harness all it's power. Now I have the ultimate gamepass PC machine, am actually suing all the free games I got from all the launchers on desktop and I'm emulating PS2, 3ds and switch games. It's mind-blowing how fantastic this thing is and how incredible the community is. It's just he best of all worlds. No loading, waiting on menus, storage issues. I play rts and competitive shooters on the desktop, blockbusters like Alan Wake 2 and dead space remaster on the series x on the new family TV with Atmos and all the rest on steam deck. It's been a dream. It's hard resisting using even my RU-vid and browsing on the deck in bed, since I don't wanna burn out the battery anymore than gaming already does.

@blackyraypatrick9041 10 месяцев назад

Wonderful video. I think i started following you after stadia launched and kept beeing hear since portability gaming is since then a target i really like to achieve. What steam does with steam input is insane. But it definitely needs some commitment of the gamer getting used to it. I think this is one of the main reasons why its not often used by many companies... Using and setting standards taking all the work away from the user even when this means limiting the possibilities is the way nowadays to fo, to reach the casual users. This is for example in my eyes one of the main success reasons of apples devices. You always were limited like in a golden cage, but this makes the people feel safe and comfortable. I really like the wild west but on the other side sometimes i want something to just work so I understand both worlds.... With the classic thumbsticks on one side and the trackpads on the other side i think steam achieved addressing both worlds... One question i have. Can steam input used inside of geforce now the same way like on a pc or your device or will the gfn xbox driver be in your way?

@mohammedjafar8461 8 месяцев назад

Love your videos. I hope you reach a 100K and a million sub soon ❤

@iannhellobatac5580 10 месяцев назад

I just want to thank you Bill for your tutorials regarding cycling layers, because of that, I can play Terraria Calamity mod on my steam deck.

@ashir555 10 месяцев назад

"But PC is the Wild West and you can install anything you want on your computer" Nude Chun Li on a live tournament, is that you???

@HawkeyeFan321 10 месяцев назад

Please tell me the “software is gooey, it’s malleable” was an intended pun (GUI)

@NerdNest 10 месяцев назад

It was, but I was not expecting people to get the joke.

@bohdaniatsenko8428 10 месяцев назад

Trackpad as a mouse + gyro allowed me to play FPS games with a controller for the first time in my life. It was eye opening.

@joseaca1010 10 месяцев назад

Im obssesed with steam input, specially after buying a steam deck, ive made countless configs for old PC games, usually for both the steam deck and the dual shock 4

@Boss_Fight_Index_muki 10 месяцев назад

Well... there will never be a SteamDeck3 that's for sure...

@AgentKenshin 10 месяцев назад

Itll be more than 2 less than 4. Then steamdeck 4.

@t3arki113r 10 месяцев назад

Steam Deck 2 episode 1

@breadtheloafening6260 10 месяцев назад

Steam deck 2.4

@シミズルリ 10 месяцев назад

Dunno what's up with all the haters and Nintendo fanboys in the comments, but yeah, Steam Input really is very underappreciated. It's the single greatest tool to use with a gamepad or joystick!

@Megalania1 10 месяцев назад

@@ShadowsofRlyeh it’s funny seeing the Nintendrones get salty lmao I own a switch but can accept and say that it’s a weak piece of hardware and it’s definitely overrated lmao after all they probably think Nintendo is their god

@gondorianslayer4250 10 месяцев назад

or people can critcize steam.

@StudioKelpie1993 10 месяцев назад

I actually LOVED my Steam Controller when I got it, it felt comfortable

@kohiek 10 месяцев назад

The software has made every controller on PC better. :D

@jonservo 10 месяцев назад

I'm not going to lie, the way you finessed me into that backbone commercial was a thing of beauty lol

@michaeljurwin 10 месяцев назад

I’m so glad I have my steam controller still. I want a steamdeck and I can use the controller on my tv with the deck.

@olegov7ch 10 месяцев назад

the trackpads were basically HTC Vive's controller trackpads, imo

@galxrax6389 10 месяцев назад

Valve unintentionally has the best help for handicapped players the ability to change the controls on any game is so useful and even more so with the steam deck with the extra buttons and flexibility as someone who already has bad hand problems I can barely use the joystick it's fantastic

@OraOraOra 10 месяцев назад

Thank you! Great Video! Can't wait for a new Valve Controller. Hey it would be awesome, if you make a Dualsense on Steam Video, tbh.. there are sooo many options, idk where to beginn. I also saw your SF6 Video. The Dualsense reminds me of the Steam Deck in so many ways!

@KoolAidManOG 10 месяцев назад

I wouldn't say Valve is innovative in any real sense, but they do commit to polishing for PC what actual innovators like Nintendo have spent decades blazing the trail for.

@simosmauromatis2592 10 месяцев назад

Bill, before i discover your videos i was not regular viewer of any specific RU-vid channel. Mostly picking a random video of interest. Your channel makes all the difference it is simple, to the point and has character. Keep it that way I wish you all the best!

@dogearmybrian7070 10 месяцев назад

Valve New Slogan: DOING IT BETTER. BUT FOR REAL.

@anthonyalexander5607 10 месяцев назад

I genuinely forget about all of nintendos innovations for controllers they started all the great advancements. I think technically the rumble pack gives them haptic feedback as well for the 64.

@BADGIZM0 9 месяцев назад

steam controller was sooo underated. still got mine and love it just wish steam still suported it. also alot of the design of their controller went into the steam deck.

@TheFrantic5 10 месяцев назад

It's the little things with Steam Input. I often have to cast on the go in FFXIV, and not only being able to add a d-pad to the right trackpad, but add one that refuses to do diagonals, is damned useful to help prevent fat finger inputs.

@zestyorangez 10 месяцев назад

Steam input made it great for me to play hyper rogue on my steam deck. It's really fun to map the touchpad 1 to 1 to a specific part of the screen.

@justinseans 10 месяцев назад

Steam I put makes a huge difference. On steam deck especially... It began with the SC obviously. And came to fuition and completion in the SD

@ahmedp8009 10 месяцев назад

I continue to love my Steam Deck more and more, Valve did amazing job on it. And while I don't plan on going OLED (yet - hopefully an aftermarket option is developed), whatever they come up with next, I will for sure get it.

@zombiejesus7445 10 месяцев назад

I have been saying this is why the steam deck is greater than any other handled..... No other company thinks about the controls of playing the game, they just think "this game needs to run +1-5 Fps better than this other device" Nothing else has gotten even close to Steam Input

@H.DISTRICT 10 месяцев назад

HTC Vive wands and Valve Index controllers further pushed the development of Steam input.

@charlyy1337 10 месяцев назад

Excuse me, nobody is trying to copy switch controls?! ALL these handhelds have switch joysticks and the legion go literally has 2 detachable joycons lol

@gondorianslayer4250 10 месяцев назад

thats steam fanboys for you, lol.

@mrterrychaos 10 месяцев назад

"Nobody is copying Switch controls" - Dual Sense rumble is just HD rumble tbh.

@werpu12 10 месяцев назад

Small correction Nintendo did not invent the analog sticks, analog sticks have been in use since the early 80s in consoles and on the pc, in fact the first pc joysticks were potentionmeter analog sticks with a single button, but there were others, like the Vectrex which also had analog sticks!

@hudo108 10 месяцев назад

True. But Nintendo were the first to apply analog stick controls to 3D character movement in a way that didn't feel like shit.

@ItsJustHenriHeck 10 месяцев назад

Ahhh you're a hiker too! That's tight dude. But valve has been killing it I didn't get a steam controller before but this video makes me want to go to ebay and pick one up.

@Yoshihara72 10 месяцев назад

As a Steam Controller owner I said it before: The idea is great, especially the trackpads are game changing. But the design/layout just wasn't. And they proofed that I was right with the Steam Deck. It's the perfect shape and has the best layout for it. The only weakspot are the shoulder buttons. But even those are serviceable.

@vicvision 10 месяцев назад

Have you heard about the issues with the headphone jack on the new OLED decks? There is a loud buzzing coming thru and it's apparently a common issue. I have tried 2 different headphones and it's present for both, and not present when used on my LCD deck. I'd love to know if you get any buzzing thru headphones too

@jessephillips8319 10 месяцев назад

Valve would have worked with any company to support their OS, and I think there was a comment made that made me think they are doing exactly that currently. These companies thought Windows would be the killer feature.

@kalosmani127 10 месяцев назад

I love the trackpads but i feel they take too much space for something i dont use often. Making the D Pad and face buttons more smaller and in a more awkward position. For example i find it harder to do quarter circle motion for fighting games because my thumb isnt resting in a nice angled position

@ActionGamerAaron 10 месяцев назад

Fully agree. I would love a Deck mini without the trackpads, smaller and lighter.

@apersonontheinternet8006 10 месяцев назад

Try using the left touchpad as touch input for joystick and press for D-pad. Right touchpad makes for nice number line and radial menu using the touch and click input method.

@bungalowfeuhler1541 10 месяцев назад

I worship at the feet of SteamInput. I want it baked into the BIOS of every device.

@shariarrahman7562 10 месяцев назад

I cannot wait for steam controller 2. I play a lot using the trackpad and gyro and I want to be able to use that anywhere

@wile123456 10 месяцев назад

I hope we get a steam controller 2 with the same layout as steam deck but more ergonomic than the first controller

@ian6239 10 месяцев назад

I didn't even use steam input prior to getting a steam deck. After getting used to it and using it more, it is truly an incredible feature. Shitty default KB+M controls on a game you want to play with a controller? No big deal, just edit the template or use a community template you like.

@doctorgadget3580 10 месяцев назад

Desperately waiting for steam controller 2

@AngryApple 10 месяцев назад

Its so sad that the dual stage triggeres arent present in the steam deck. The slight haptic bump isnt the same 😢 I have a steam controller but as you mentioned its awkward to hold and I could never force me to use it because of that, it was too expensive and felt way to cheap. The Steam Deck really is a Joy to use, I wish there would be a Controller Mode because its way more comftable than the Steam Controller. Would like to use my Steam Deck as a Controller because its the better Steam Controller. Also Imagine a WiiU Style Input Scheme together with the Steam Deck additional information on your second controller screen

@TheL1arL1ar 10 месяцев назад

As an owner of an lcd deck and OLED now….the best controller I find for docked use is the DualShock 4….with the trackpad for left and right click including mouse aim…and then gyro controls with intricate adjustments for gyro…I would get the dualsense5 but that battery…id rather use one of my 3 ps vita’s for another controller 😂

@xMRxLAMAx 10 месяцев назад

A large part of why the wiiu didn’t catch on was because two screen gameplay doesn’t work out, unless the screens are immediately next to each other And what did you use dual stage triggers for anyway? I put multiple actions on analog triggers and don’t care for dual stage triggers so I’m curious.

@gerreycynepheld 10 месяцев назад

the steam os is (mostly) open source since its linux. people have made their own version (forks) of it like nobara and chimeraOS.

@pxkqd 8 месяцев назад

Steam input is still used in desktop to use controllers.

@tlingitsoldier 10 месяцев назад

I got a bundled Steam Controller for an extra $20 when I bought Sekiro. It's not my favorite controller, but I like having it. The touch controls can be too...touchy sometimes. Hoping for a refined second version sometime soon.

@monsterjj9917 10 месяцев назад

The steam controller is hands down the best PC gaming controller. With it and steam input I played through all of botw and totk 100% and over 1800 hours in botw alone solely on the steam controller. In totk I made it so when I hold the ability swap button the right trackpad becomes a touch wheel and I can swap abilities instantly. Needless to say, I love my steam controller

@wwe682 10 месяцев назад

I'm happy I put my stock in them since 2021

@CT--fd6gc 10 месяцев назад

I definitely need to give the steam controller another try. I never really gave it a chance. Its in a drawer ill havr to pull it out😊

@danmar007 10 месяцев назад

Some companies just seem to have IT!

@technodrone313 10 месяцев назад

the steam controller was a really cool idea and they gave up on supporting it almost right away. i was kind of mad at how bad that was. but yeah i just got a steam deck oled and this thing is wonderful. cept no windows drivers....

@austinwolff9679 10 месяцев назад

Yeah it was really innovative watching Valve do a massive ban wave in CS2 which resulted in thousands of users getting false banned locking their inventories and making a large list of games unplayable. Very innovative.

@tomorrowisyesterday3215 10 месяцев назад

So, steam input is another steam workshops, you can get specific settings by few clicks, if there someone make it? Very cool, no need manually change every button and stuff

@devillad666 10 месяцев назад

I love the steam controller, I really hope that a successor comes at some point

@splitcryptic 9 месяцев назад

The Dual Sense controller is such a tragedy. So much features yet devs are given no incentive of turning any of those features into functions. Meanwhile the Steam input continues in proving itself a miracle, adding to the reasons you would buy the Steam Deck over its competitors. No other handheld can give you the experience that the Steam Deck can provide with its ability to play ANY game *HOWEVER* you want. No need to seperate the joystick in order to turn it into a mouse, or any strange jargon, as alternative options already exist in order to achieve anything that you want.

@mykotauro 10 месяцев назад

Steam input was a loyal frinend but (obviously) only limited to steam games (there are many methods like adding non-Steam games but is very complicated with some titles) so I use everyday my Steam controller with reWASD.

@zDToddy 10 месяцев назад

Actually the SIXAXIS controller for the PS3 had gyro 3 years before the WiiMotionPlus

@jjcranfill 10 месяцев назад

I would love a big chunky steam first party controller. I have giganto hands and the steam deck is the most comfortable layout I've used barring the weight.

@badmoose01 10 месяцев назад

I’m surprised you made a video about how valve innovates game controls but didn’t mention the index.

@xJohnWolfx 10 месяцев назад

Great video and breakdown brother.

@peppefailla1630 10 месяцев назад

"Valve turned this concept into success with Linux" FINUALLY

@UmVtCg 10 месяцев назад

That is the first time ever I've heard somebody refer to the switch as a powerhouse. I mostly refer to it as a potato

@NerdNest 10 месяцев назад

in terms of sales.

@dennisthegamer2376 10 месяцев назад

Here in Europe the price of a used Steam controller is 30 to 70 Euros, doesn't seem that expensive if your try to look for a good deal.

@chad.breece 10 месяцев назад

I want a steam controller with e-ink face buttons that can change to Xbox/nintendo/playstation layouts based on the steam input. That would fix so many problems I have with current controller issues on pc

@mohammadaminarab2617 10 месяцев назад

Aside from everything, I really love how you put ads in your videos. It's super smooth.

@NerdNest 10 месяцев назад

I appreciate that!

@cunawarit 10 месяцев назад

I am of the opinion that every single mainstream controller needs gyro, back buttons and trackpads. In that priority order. And these should be configurable via a Steam Input like feature. Given devs simply don't support things like gyro and back buttons by default then the controller should.

@InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад

Why? I've been gaming over 30 years and don't use any of those features.

@smidlee7747 10 месяцев назад

@@InitialFailure The back buttons is more useful on a PC handheld. One example I often mapped "Toggle Magnifier" on to R4 which helps a lot playing on a 7" screen. Gyro is very useful for fps to compete against keyboard and mouse. With keyboard and mouse you don't need any of those features.

@InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад

@smidlee7747 ah I can see that. I kinda stopped competitive gaming about 5-10 years ago when cheating became so rampant it killed PC competition for me.

@ryan-oo3lh 10 месяцев назад

@@InitialFailure I'll never use a controller without back buttons again. I usually map the analog stick clicks to them and it's way easier than clicking a stick down imo (and there's an added benefit of less wear and tear on the sticks). I'll sometimes also map face button or dpad controls to the back buttons, which allows me to take my thumbs off the sticks less often. It just makes so much sense to give your other fingers something to do besides gripping the controller.

@Ladiesman-js3kt 10 месяцев назад

I usually add gyro aiming to my DS4 on Steam.

@tedlundholm8163 9 месяцев назад

The Steam Deck kicks butt

@specialfred453 10 месяцев назад

SteamOS is the primary reason why I won't consider getting any of the Steam Deck copycats right now. I don't need something more powerful, or a higher res screen. I need SteamOS

@mysterio7807 10 месяцев назад

I want stronger haptics on the Deck.

@mamaharumi 10 месяцев назад

I just wish valve would make a controller. I can't go back to gaming without a trackpad. They're perfect in function, and the haptics make them feel so good. I don't even want to use my kbm, lol. Also, the side-by-side layout of buttons and sticks is superior to the standard, imo. Not sure how that'll work for a dedicated controller, though.

@xMRxLAMAx 10 месяцев назад

I was so disappointed when I joined a steam deck related group online, before I had a steam deck, I figured the steam deck was a controller based pc, so literally everyone would be using steam input now, and no one cared a single bit about it, and everyone keeps saying ‘just connect a mouse and keyboard’ And my appreciation for it diminished as well since getting a steam deck and finding home button chord configurations aren’t allowed to be changed…only on steam deck tho…? Neat feature I guess Oh and the new controller configurator sucks ass anyway so I use old steam for the old big picture mode

@InitialDL84 10 месяцев назад

I thought I would never use the track pads on my Steam Deck, until I played this visual novel/bartending game that piqued my interest and I was kinda forced to use them. I didn't realize how easy they were to use, and it made playing the game that much more enjoyable as a result. I play mostly play fighters, beat em ups, shoot em ups, JRPGs and some racing games, so using the track pads was kinda low on the totem pole for me. Now I want to try out other genres of games that make use of the track pads even moreso than before.

@TheL1arL1ar 10 месяцев назад

Definitely and when in docked I use a DualShock 4 with a combo of track pad and gyro controls..became an awesome combo…and when in portable I prefer gyro when my thumb is touching the right stick 🤘🏻.