Noam Chomsky Compares Right-Wing Media to Nazi Germany 

3:00 "and unless and answer can be given to these people we're in for trouble" Really ... we were in for trouble 20 years ago ... trouble is here, here and now.

That "kill granny" part caught me off guard lol

How does that effect his argument?

Chomsky has been the creepiest gatekeeper around.

I ❤ Noam Chomsky

Noam: "and I don't want to press the analogy too hard..." Fora: "CHOMSKY COMPARES FOX TO NAZIS"

@manucalrad Thanks for your support and advice. It is very much appreciated.

You never hear Chomsky raising his voice or ranting the way so many right wingers do. Just calm, well informed, logical answer. Emphasis on well informed because so many times when he speaks he will bring in multiple historical examples from the past to illustrate his point. It's scary to think about how much he has read and how much information he can draw upon from all that reading. No wonder he has been called the worlds leading intellectual.

I laughed when he said conservatives don't hear anything else but the right wing media. I guess he means those few conservatives that don't own a tv, watch a movie, read a newspaper, etc. Most media is tilted toward the left, and most people who tilt that way themselves can't see it since it is the truth to them. Most people seek out confirmation bias whether on the right tor the left.

What a shallow synopsis of what was going on in circa. 1930's Germany. The government had profoundly failed the people resulting in mass starvation and indentured servitude. In 1924 French and Belgium troops occupied Germany to force them to pay reparations even as Germans were starving. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr The resulting maltreatment of German citizens resulted in an ideological split between those calling for fascism and those calling for communism. Germans could see first hand what communism was doing in Russia. Remember what Stalin was doing at the time? Remember the millions of Russians Stalin killed? Germany had a living example what would happen to their country had they sided with Russia and they rejected it en mass. They chose the other option only because there was no other logical choice. By taking his example out of historical context, Chomsky is engaging in the worst kind of consent manufacturing (propaganda) leaving the viewer to believe right wing news=Nazi's.

well, i can't exactly write a tome limited to 500 characters..

Isn't the title of this video a little bit misleading?

Several issues: - The Right-wing talking point about an elite that has little interest in them and actually prefers illegal immigrants over the native population isn't a terrible explanation, it's the most plausible explanation given the evidence. Unless Noam is trying to tell us the ruling class has a genuine altruistic view towards the common person and Conservative rhetoric is misguided. Either way it was clumsily stated, he probably got lost in his train of thought as he was talking. Regardless, you have cooperation between business interests, political parties (GOP elite & the Democratic Party), left-wing ideologues, and the clergymen who are rallying for mass migration. Again, it's silly to think this is due to some altruistic characteristic of the powers that be, more than likely the impetus for such movements are self-interests in a total Machiavellian sense. The only issue I have with the specific talking point is calling the ruling class "the left," as "left" in that instant would be poorly defined. Although at this point terms like Right & Left tend to lose their meaning. - 1920's Germany was "vastly superior" than the Third Reich? And we know this because of the arts and the "democratic process" (whatever that means) was of a superior quality? The former is completely arbitrary and the latter is just too vague and abysmally worded that I won't even comment. The Reich had produced some great art, musicians, philosophy, & architecture. Never to mind the fully recovered economic powerhouse it became due to the Socialist policies implemented in a staunch rejection of liberalism. I guess Chomsky is trying to say that genocide and war-mongering somehow disqualifies these accomplishments and puts 30's Germany " in the pits of human history," which is simply silly and again, rather arbitrary. Might as well characterize Imperial Rome, USSR, America's entire history as being "in the pits of human history" for similar objections. Really weird to view a civilization in such black & white terms. Chomsky is a pseudo-scientist (staunch neo-creationist racial egalitarian) and an Anarchist which is just full-fledged savagery. I do admire most of his lectures and love his critiques against capitalism and society at large but he has some prominent faults.

1:30 - Wow, could he be any more patronising? Chomsky is simply the best that can be hoped for from an intellectual. The usual arrogance, pride, and false modesty are all there, just beneath the surface. He does a good job keeping the lid on them, most of the time.

@LibertyDownUnder thanks for the link i will certaintly take a look at it. I know chomsky references Adam Smith often in his speeches. Ive not had a chance to read Wealth of Nations, but i will be adding it to my reading list.

Buy my book. Live in a tent. Shit in a hole in the woods, die at thirty. -Noam Chomsky, intellectual Pepsi can

Mussolini:"Granted that the XIXth century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the XXth century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right', a Fascist century."

So how do we fight the billionaires behind right wing media?

@spacepatrolman sorry about the triple post, youtube gave me an error so i reposted it...

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "Chomsky and his ilk." He is not a supporter of President Obama or the Clintons. He is also not a welfare liberal either. He has been highly critical of trade unions even though he supports unions in principle. He has also been a longstanding critic of corporations and governments for their exploitation of ordinary people.

this is a good video, thanks to posted

@willing07 you said it best, i was gonna say something similar but i couldnt remember who specifically was diminishing jobs and where exactely we were being forced to go overseas

Corrado Gini is his name -- was born May 23rd, 1884 died and died 1965 in March. He was big on controlling the population. He was Italy's Margaret Sanger. He established the Italian Committee for the Study of Population Problems. He was a statistician, demographer, sociologist, and he developed what is called a Gini coefficient. It's "a measure of the income inequality in a society." He was a fascist, theorist, and ideologue who wrote The Scientific Basis of Fascism in 1927...sick

@braktuun What is with Srebrenica? Could you specify what this is in reply to?

"The domination of government by corporate power is the essence of fascism" -Franklin Roosevelt

Has anybody NOT read 1984?

Also, he has visited countless "Third World" countries and helped out with popular movements in them. Basically, whenever he's not doing work on linguistics, he's working to create a more democratic, free world in whatever way he can. Expressing his theories about the mass media is one of the methods he uses.

He might be a professor at MIT but that doesn't mean he has any common sense.

So. What is happening to them?

Learn the truth about Noam Chomsky and his ilk by reading the book, "Do as I say, Not as I do"

@spacepatrolman I'll grant you that, but it doesn't add weight to your argument. The episode wasn't about anarchy, it was about justice. Further, film can be seen as history, but only in certain context. It can give you a glimpse of the prevailing social attitudes of a time, but often the settings of tv shows and movies are often romanticized images of a period. So you have to be careful if you're going to use a non documentary as a source as more than likely its been romanticized.

@ContemptForYou My experience as a union steward is that the a lot of people tend to come and go based on what's in it for them. I find that, despite the rhetoric, there is an obvious pecking order of preferrence regarding what workplace gets the most attention of the union, and

I've no legs.

That only applies when it's not relevant. 'You wear shoes, the Nazis wore shoes too!'. He's drawing very clear parallels which would exist regardless of whether he explicitly made the comparison.

Yup. We’re definitely in trouble

Yeah sure, sometimes Rush goes off the deep end talking about illegal immigration and stuff, but Glenn Beck specifically said, "Be careful. Don't get violence! They want you to react like a mob. Act in the manner Gahidi and Martin Luther King Jr. prescribed." [And to be clear, I’m paraphrasing, that isn’t a full quote.]

People won't recognize that they were divided, these men and women were separated by a few individuals making sure humans don't stand up together against a certain upper class.

Chomsky is a prime example of someone who has never experienced the real world nor real politik. He's been on a college campus for half a century now enlightening us with theories and opinions that he never has to answer for.

I hope Noam Chomsky's genuis continues for a long time.

@spacepatrolman Further, if you're getting your information on a political ideology from a 1960s Western, you may want to re-examine your sources.

Germany definitely wasn't the height of western civilsation in the 1920's....

Actually, America was founded on the genocide of a native people and a kind of "clean slate" on vast, fertile land. We broke away from the clutches of empire across an ocean and once we were well established, no one could seriously mess with us. We usurped this land and its bountiful resources and became very rich and powerful relatively quickly. From a sociological and political look at the historical context, its not a big surprise that liberty blossomed here. Yes, we are quite different.

Chomsky's linguistics is still one of the highest cited books both in linguistics and cognitive science. Linguistics is not moving away from "innate grammar" but rather neuroscience has confirmed that innate grammar exists. These comments are coming out of left field but I can verify further if I notice my posts get through.

Germany in the 1920s was the peak of western civilisation , this statement proves what he is

Chomsky: the only man who can write a 200 page book on terrorism without once mentioning Islam !

Chomsky does make distinctions between Trump and Nazis in 2019, but this clip still shows the 'rhyming' comparison that still holds true. Chomsky quotes Twain to clarify he does not think history repeats exactly, but 'rhymes'.

@IngeniousEpithet I completely agree with you.

I bet Chomsky is a dude that doesn't throw around Nazi Germany comparisons often.

RW talk show hosts say liberals dominate the media, not "own all the corporations". Difference there. Think, think.

10/01/2020.... couldn't be more relevant. God bless those of us in the streets. Shoutout to everybody doing the work, educating yourself, trying to educate others, and creating stronger communities. Darkness is rolling in, and we are living in the calm of the storm. Never give up.

"National socialism" a misnomer. They were a hard right party which supported traditional capitalism.

@zackariam1 But he's such a gracious man that he probably loves all of us with his whole being as well.

The fact is a budget wasn't passed when Democrats had super majorities in both houses. When Obama proposed his budget to the Senate it was defeated 97-0. Members of his own party won't vote for his budget.

He's right that the US wouldn't have industrialized at the pace it did without protectionism. No country ever has and the USSR's turn around was the fastest turn around probably in world history. It took the US at least 100 years to put themselves into a "industrialized" country but only took the USSR 50 years.

chomsky wasn't comparing the right wing media to nazi germany. he was just saying that people in times of crisis can find horrible ideas appealing.

Noam Chomsky not a political thinker? You serious? Chomsky is one of the most respected political scientists alive today. I've had several of his articles and books as syllabus during my 5 years in Uni.

If you haven't heard 'Mr Chomsky' discuss any of those things it's because you haven't read his books or followed his media.

@JBBlitz Could you elaborate, I can't seem to connect the dots?

well said

@MilanTbay Okay, let's think about this one. American Confederacy, which side were they, the right or the left? What does confederacy stand for, as opposed to federalism? Hitler was on top, and wanted lots of power, is that like confederacy or more like federalism? After answering these questions (presuming you understand them) do you still think Hitler was Right Wing? How about Stalin or Mao Tse Tung?

I meant had super majorities in both the House and Senate.

The man is a linguist, not a political thinker.

Or maybe those who disagree are understanding of the fact that his comparison is flawed. The best part for me: There were highly functioning democratic institutions in the Germany of the 1920s. I barely ever laughed harder.

@JenkemDrewBieber I think you got who burnts whose books in Germany backwards.

Noam is a very tactful person...regardless of his standpoint i can't help but hear his effort to understand both "us and them" and delineate between the two.

"Noam Chomsky Compares Right-Wing Media to National SOCIALIST Germany " There, I fixed it for you.

Texas, Missouri, and Mississippi have seen a reduction of in Health Care Cost since they passed tort reform.

Propaganda is propaganda, my friend. There is no degree to propaganda so long as the people suck it all up.

You need to admire his skill at wordpainting an exact analogy between Talk Radio conservatives and Nazis, and then saying he doesn't want to push the analogy too hard but...and then he skillfully bookends the two sides so you feel an almost thrill of recognition. In reality, you know he diagrammed and practiced and has delivered this analogy he "doesn't want to push too hard" many times. SOOO much classier than the typical liberal screaming 'NAZI' with no foreplay or thought. No different though

For the idiots who keep saying "But Hitler hated Stalin and the USSR, so he had to be "right wing" look up the concept of Liebensraum. THAT was why Hitler went to war against Russia, not because he wasn't a socialist.

And Chomsky never said that the US wouldn't have industrialized without protectionism; he said the US, keeping capitalism, wouldn't have industrialized as fast. Obviously if the US eliminated capitalism and put everything directly into democratic control, it could have industrialized.

The analogy is close in terms of on which psychological mechanisms are being played. Really, what are the substancial differences between the case and the analogy? Only quantitative, it seems.

@abcshopper He did not say that "rich liberals" run the media. He was saying that Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage and "the rest of them" say that rich liberals run the media.

@spacepatrolman Just finished it, I still don't understand your point.

Dr. Chomsky recently told Iranian TV that at the time the US attacked Afganistan, they had no evidence that al Qaeda was guilty. See my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"

What do you think neo-cons are? Neo-cons are liberal conservatives, or moderates. The point is neo-cons ARENT conservative.

@Rammagith Chomsky wasn't saying our country is the same as Nazi Germany. In fact, he made a comparison to Weimar Germany. Hitler didn't appear out of nowhere and take over the country overnight, nor was he proposing mass extermination for the preceding decade before he took power. He exploited justifiable anger, then gave the people an enemy. And I myself don't want to throw "Nazi" around, but Hitler might be the only one in the last century to blame The Left more than Glenn Beck,

Obama's not a liberal? LOL. The Kool Aid mustache is strong on you.

@JenkemDrew bieber- please educate me as to what Jewish Communism is. What are the elements, philosophy of this. Thanx!

@NikovK He's a damn good linguist and a great political thinker as well.

Um, I believe that is a typo in the title. However, right wing, left wing, same dirty bird

He's right, that analogy isn't remotely close.

Noam Chomsky is Speaking the Truth ❤

'But trusts can’t be all bad. After all, Chomsky, with a net worth north of $2,000,000, decided to create one for himself. A few years back he went to Boston’s venerable white-shoe law firm, Palmer and Dodge, and, with the help of a tax attorney specializing in “income-tax planning,” set up an irrevocable trust to protect his assets from Uncle Sam. He named his tax attorney (every socialist radical needs one!) and a daughter as trustees. -Hoover Institute There! I did your homework for you.

In the last 50 years have you had One new thought?

The top comment by arzoyan is the most articulate and accurate description of modern Western society I have ever read.

@beta447 We have a city like New York trying to ban salt. Michigan has a proposal to stop selling beef 1 day a week. THIS IS NOT GOV. responsibility. Michigan has already banned cigarettes in restuarants. (I'm a nonsmoker who opposes this) With national healthcare - do you support higher taxes on those with higher cholesterol to help keep costs down? Should there be a cheese burger tax? how about a pizza tax? if you can force people to buy insurance, can you force them to eat their veggies?

The title of this video completely goes against what I think Chomsky was attempting to do here. He was attempting to say "when people don't get answers from those in power, they get answers from those who challenge power." It was a statement about the mindset of the people and the way various powers can "answer" those people's grievances. The analogy to Nazis was a very small part and to me completely mislabels this insightful speech.

Another public record Chomsky doesn't know what he's talking about

Watch the whole interview so you don't do the classic teabagger move of putting everything out of context to get a reaction.

If a person goes to the ER in the U.S. they will not be turned down. A lot of Canadians come to this country if they need a major procedure done. The average wait in countries with Universal Healthcare is almost 20 weeks if you need to see a specialist. One of the main reasons for costs for Healthcare is lawsuits. States who have put lawsuit reform for healthcare have seen a reduction in healthcare costs.

Germany in 1920s was the peak of Western civilisation?? What's Chomsky talking about? WW1-1923, Germany devastated by WW1 (2m Germans killed) & Treaty of Versailles/Reparations, & hyperinflation. Democracy in 20s under Wiemar was not "highly functioning democratic institutions". Democracy was very brittle. 1924-1929, so-called "cultural flowering" = Americanisation of the German culture. Economic "recovery" was a facade, financed by massive debt under Dawes Plan, whereby US banks lent to Germany, mortgaging German industry & infrastructure as collateral to help them repay their debts. It was a house of cards waiting to happen, as it did when the US stock market crashed in 1929. Chomsky scoffing at those holding the Jews & Bolsheviks responsible. Is that not true? The Jewish Bolsheviks in Greater Russia were murdering White Christians by the millions. Even the Jewish Bolsheviks/assorted Communists maintained all along that the goal was to do the same in Germany. It was in their cross-hairs. Come on, Chomsky. You know what the truth really is.

@spacepatrolman I'll grant you that, but the fact of the matter is that the episode had only one line referring to the definition of the ideology. I'm just defining terms and taking objection to your original conjecture that Anarchy is a left-wing movement, which it generally isn't. Also just because film can be used as history doesn't mean that all film is history. Now film can give you a glimpse at the prevailing social attitudes of a time, but film usually romanticizes the period it depicts.

I have heard Chris Hedges make the same comparison Chomsky is making here to Weimar Germany. It is a frightening thought.

@lakeeriejew you are the only one here who thinks he's a "messiah," he talks publicly because people invite him, not because he is a messiah "spreading a message."Other than watching RU-vid videos, at what level have you engaged with the man's theories? have you verified the citations, footnotes, end notes etc. found in the majority of his written work? it is all extensively researched, so perhaps you should tackle it on that level and try to disprove his thesis rather than wasting time here.

@quicksiliva @quicksiliva Wooooooooa I actually thought you might be right... until you used Glen Beck as a reference.... *sight* That took your argument down on a whole different level!!!

@MilanTbay actually Hitler was a mixture of left, right, occultism, and many other things. It's important to know that the Nazis opposed the Weimar Republic just as the Communists did, just more effectively.

Right Wing, Left Wing, One Plane.

Well, he reads for hours a day to find the truth and then tells us what that truth is (not through propaganda, but by making rational arguments and using hard facts to support them) in order to encourage people to protest. He was an ardent anti-war activist during the Vietnam War and has been quick to shed light on the atrocities committed by the U.S. ever since. Basically all of his politics-themed books are aimed at encouraging the kind of critical thinking that leads to social change.

@obtree I said they were far-right, NOT Libertarian. You're mixing political wings up. An Anarchist is technically a left-leaning Libertarian, as there are right-wing Libertarians. A Fascist is a right-wing Authoritarian while a Communist is a left-wing version. Like many on the modern American right, the Nazis were anti-communist, anti-liberal, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, supported large military, were close with big business/the church/other right-wing groups, eschewed internationalism, etc.