Noam Chomsky: We Must Confront the “Ultranationalist, Reactionary” Movements Growing Across Globe 

It's so hard thou, like burning coals in the ears lol.

When he speaks, I set playback speed to 1.25, but I do listen.

What do you think you understand? It's just detached neo-Marxist BS. He's like a living model of Marxist analytical paradigms that doesn't acknowledge any contrary data or theories.

Indonesia America ??? He doesn’t argue from traditional Marxist paradigms at all. He argues influenced by anarchist paradigms, but in a much more functional, policy oriented way. He rarely uses the theoretical parts of his ideology in his argumentation. The core of traditional Marxist thought is dialectics and Marxist theory, and Chomsky almost never uses the former and rarely the later. Neo Marxists are steeped in the postmodernist tradition, which Chomsky actively critiques. It’s why he doesn’t get along with famous Marxists like Zizek. Even the most “moderate” Marxists at least use Marx’s critiques of capitalism as a starting point. Chomsky almost never uses any of Marx’s arguments against capitalism

He's not Dr. 😂😂😂

Everyone around me is an idiot.

Misleading of Chomsky to pretend the young people of America can do anything to influence foreign states. Just look at how long the US has been trying to nudge South America. Has it worked? Chomsky's rhetoric is perverse, in this case, I think it coincides with a greater leftist rhetoric that humanity's natural state is globalist or universal. This rhetoric gets young Americans to feel less connected to their homes and more open to the world. The world is not open its unforgiving. The gloablist / universal vision you have in your minds wont be achievable for 500-1000 years - Not until you give developing countries a chance to go through the process of growing intellectually and spiritually. The US is ahead of the curve in that sense.

@@desnebula5699 "I wonder if I can sell White Nationalism (I mean--Nationalism) on a Noam Chomsky thread?"

​@@carolyntalbot947 This is the problem with young people on the left. They think forming verbal lynch mobs and showering their opposition with baseless accusations is an effective form of debate. Quote me directly to show where I have "white-nationalist" ideals. If you had asked me I would have told you Im a centrist.

@@desnebula5699 You had me at "Globalist," sir. This rhetoric is a primer for the uglier stuff, isn't it? And you sound very smart and informed, so you are probably very persuasive with young people. I am not here to debate you, or de-radicalize you on a RU-vid thread. I'm interested in talking to the same people you are, before they are invested in a dangerous and destructive ideology, posing as "the new punks" and "reals not feels" critical thinkers.

Misleading of Chomsky to pretend the young people of America can do anything to influence foreign states. Just look at how long the US has been trying to nudge South America. Has it worked? Chomsky's rhetoric is perverse, in this case, I think it coincides with a greater leftist rhetoric that humanity's natural state is globalist or universal. This rhetoric gets young Americans to feel less connected to their homes and more open to the world. The world is not open its unforgiving. The gloablist / universal vision you have in your minds wont be achievable for 500-1000 years - Not until you give developing countries a chance to go through the process of growing intellectually and spiritually. The US is ahead of the curve in that sense.

Garfield I don't think I see the youth worrying about home though. Sure they rally and call for free education and a friendlier form of capitalism but while they do that most of their rallying is occupied with pushing for an open-borders globalist world and throwing allegations of racism at anyone who dares try to have a debate about whether that's a good idea. I think this is all exasperated when Chomsky starts flirting with a "Nazi-ism is on the rise again" statement.

Jim America is still the land of opportunity and among the freest nations in the world. If you disagree please name a free'er country. China the next super power has banned millions from leaving due to poor social credits. they have facial identity cameras on every corner and an A.I. system keeping track of everyone.

Winston Smith in Oceania - I share your sentiments - except for the “call for arms” and the “anals”...

@@desnebula5699 for commies , freedom is freedom from self responsibility

You won't be disappointed: listen to more of his lectures and find out that he has been profoundly vocal about elites, corporations and the resulting inequality. But he's also a person able to convince using only the most pertinent examples, without recycling the same arguments for various purposes like many other intellectuals do. Refreshing. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3gS6g41m_NU.html

@@bartvh07 I don't understand what you're talking about. The corporate elite are the ones who want open borders. Chomsky's take is a bit dated. It's not the 1940's.

Chomsky can’t decide if he’s more opposed to neoliberalism or nationalism, so he’s just pretending they’re the same thing.

@Zappa I'm very familiar with Chomsky's writing (both the scientific/linguistic part and the activist/political one). It's just that - at least at some point - we will have to name and analyse the intellectual origins of all these modern ultra-nationalist movements, i.e. what the Russian people have been subjected to for at least a decade now. Chomsky, for good reason, avoids pointing this out because he is - rightfully so imho - concerned that it might stoke misdirected and dangerous anti-Russian resentment. @others: Neoliberalism vs. nationalism is a false dichotomy and there's probably nobody on earth who is more aware of this than Chomsky.

@@yurona5155 Could this thing the _"Russian people have been subjected to for at least a decade now"_ be by any chance the same thing that, when it's the West doing it (as in fighting fascist Germany or communist Korea), is called patriotism and is celebrated constantly in war movies and remembrance parades? If the Russian Federation wasn't faced with so much unrelenting hostility coming from the West (NATO militarism, EU sanctions, US economic and financial warfare) then it might not be in need of this 'nationalism' so much. But just like the Soviet Union, Russia simply cannot afford to not to have such a strong nationalist element to its culture given the threats constantly posed by western cultural subversion and predatory capitalist expansionism.

Name him Foam.

What an idiot you are.

Don't listen to these clowns that's a great idea ✊✊✊ 👍

spicecrop Who are you to tell someone what they should name their child you fucking idiot

Maybe you're projecting? I find most any point Chomsky makes a hell of a lot more substantiated than your comment. Anarcho-syndicalism and sociolibertarianism don't seem very hard to define or understand, except maybe to the most polarized and -izing. Even Wikipedia does an ok job of it. As instructive as it would be for us to know every intricacy of Chomsky's politics, alignment shouldn't (dis)qualify arguments.

@@avidmisreader Pardon me, your response just falls as yet another example of the point I made in the comment. All you did was to throw some terms around such as "Anarcho-syndicalism" or "sociolibertarianism", and somehow you seem to think that the existence of the terms itself qualifies as a justification? Sure, as you say "alignment shouldn't (dis)qualify arguments", but if that's all that's prompted you to criticize my comment, you've missed more than half of my point. I appreciate that you wrote a response, so I would like to make the best of it. Would you care to give a substantial "content" that I am looking for? You mentioned those two terms. I take it that Noam Chomsky's political belief is best approximated by those? Would you care to give references of instances where he makes constructive argument for those systems?

They're too dumbed down to understand. See John Taylor Gatto- New York Teacher of the Year

@ϟ ϟ You expose yourself as non-crypto wannabe nazi. fukin galaxybrains..

"is there really a choice for progressives to make" your reference to B. Sanders that I disagree with intensely is as I see it is only your na·ive·té /ˌnäˌēvəˈtā,näˈēv(ə)ˌtā/ noun noun: naivety; noun: naïvety; noun: naiveté; noun: naivete; noun: naïveté lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment. He cannot win. He gets red in the face, spits as he talks, and is on his very last legs... lemme see, Born in 1941... carry the two, minus 6...whoa that makes hin 77 and a half. the median age of a president is 55 years. Ronald Regan, do you know of him?, was elected at 69 years. think of it as you age the years shrink. And aging is an accelerating condition. Politically though he has adopted humane attitudes of others. But unfortunately his delivery, honestly, lacks any kind of understanding its effect verbally and visually. but what ever go vote your heart. :)

Have you not heard of Andrew Yang?

I think you're confusing deference with tribalism. Also, Bernie endorsed Hillary Clinton. This was even after DNC corruption had been disclosed. Bernie lacks the courage of his convictions and has proven he will go along to get along. Thus, will never get my vote.

In what world are our kids getting dumber? Who you are around is a reflection of you. This generation and future ones are more intelligent, kind, wise and free thinking. It is the past generations who have created horrible world wars, wall street, destruction of the planet, female abuse, gay bashing, hanging black people from trees. More people from the younger generations will not tolerate this. They are exposing the lies. The reason kids aren't on the streets as much is because of the higher amounts of population which has left them vulnerable to more crime. You go and find a small town in Idaho or Montana and the kids are running around carelessly. Parents aren't being overprotective its that neighborhoods have changed. Kids are still running around in the inner city too. The younger generation is doing just fine, worry about your own habits first.

@@semyaza555 Bernie understands politics. Itd be far easier for him to pressure someone in the dem party rather than trump. Yes hilary sucks souls out of babies however she also has to listen to popular opinion to some extent which bernie resoresents. He could pressure her to mass Medicare for all for instance. Hes shifted the platform of the democratic base with people like AOC and tulsi having many of the same ideas with some of the loudest voices. Conceding to hillary was part of a broader strategy (yes we all hate her and know she rigged the dnc from the start)

While I was there, a mention of documenting and sharing the event was mentioned. No knowledge at the moment of this.

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I would recommend Dr. Thomas Sowell on utube. especially "Intellectuals and Society" You will get much more factual information. without the bias Chomsky spews.

Jesus was murdered, like thousands of freedom fighters and fighters for economic justice, because he opposed the greed of the priests who were forcing the poor of Judah to give their money to the priests. He opposed them with outrage, they had him arrested and murdered. That is why he died. The oldest gospel, the Gospel of Mark, says so. Greedy religion profiteers now never talk about this. They are the same as the priests that Jesus opposed.

@@hategreed1 Yeah they never talk about how those who killed them were Jewish either!

Chomsky at his absolute worst. His philosophy is awesome, as is his linguistics and critique of capitalism. But his political views are hot garbage and a bit reactionary themselves. But from the far left. I feel Chomsky is paranoid or scared that people will notice that Jews are over represented in a lot of American institutions and will get angry. But are we seriously suppose to ignore ethnicity and the role it plays in real life? Terrible, terrible take. This will always come up.

"Reactionary" has mostly been used as a slur against political dissidents in one-party Communist states, so there's the lingering connotation that one _must_ be on the right politically for it to apply. But it begs the question: reactionary in relation to _what_ status quo? If globalism had been ascendant for decades, then I think Chomsky would count as a left-wing reactionary for his opposition to this reassertion of nationalism.

noam is an anarcho-syndicalist, if you're actually interested in learning about an alternative to nation states which he advocates. rudolf rocker's primer is a good place to start. and no, it's absolutely nothing like the singular "alternative" you proposed.

lulu I'll be honest and say that my interest is partly contingent on the extent to which Rocker's ideas have found purchase outside of academia. That said, some friends have been recommending I read Proudhon, and so I might dip into Rocker as well. Could you give me a quick outline of his thought, or direct me to one? My quick search didn't turn up any one definitive primer of this thought.

​@@RochesFan the primer i'm referring to is just called Anarcho-Syndicalism: Theory and Practice by Rudolf Rocker. i'm not sure how knowledgeable you are on socialism, but this is a single youtube comment, so i don't really think this is the right place to elaborate the entire backdrop of all the ways in which capitalism is bad before diving into syndicalism. for these purposes, we'll just suffice it to say that it's because while capitalism creates a lot of wealth, it's inherently distributed extremely unequally, resulting in an inevitable tendency towards a very small minority of the population accumulating a ridiculously disproportionate amount of wealth, and by extension, power over others, especially the people they employ, resulting in abhorrent working conditions and abysmal wages (these have improved substantially thanks to these very syndicalist labor movements, but syndicalism has more substantial aims than "nicer capitalism"). because individual workers are so powerless over their conditions compared to the capitalists, syndicalism aims to balance the power scale by forming radical unions which give workers leverage over their despots through engaging in practical tactics such as general strikes, sit-ins, boycotts and sabotage to achieve their demands. ultimately, anarcho-syndicalism aims to completely replace the capitalist economy and the state by transferring the control of the production to the unions themselves, freely cooperating in a confederation, who can decide what to produce and how to produce it democratically and ethically, instead of the capitalists making people produce whatever is profitable regardless of the social harm or the oppressive conditions. you could say it "found purchase outside of academia". we have what limited workers' rights we have today thanks to the extremely hard fought battles of the radical labor unions of the 19th and 20th centuries, and the movement found its most substantive realization in anarchist sections of Spain in the civil war during 1936-39, before it was finally crushed by Franco's fascist regime. (if you're wondering, they lost not because people were too lazy to work without a taskmaster dangling a wage in front of them -- quite the opposite was the case, if you want to read their history -- it was because of counter-revolutionary efforts by the authoritarian "communist" party and a worldwide embargo placed on them resulting in a complete lack of military aid while fighting a fascist regime.) finally, i'll say i'm not a syndicalist myself, because i think we live in times where the ecological state of the planet and our very psychological and social fabric have been degraded by hierarchy to an extent that fighting oppression in the workplace, if it ever would have caused the holistic social revolution necessary to liberate this world, is now no longer sufficient. i think it has very valuable ideas and tactics that are worth salvaging and incorporating into a more whole revolutionary theory. i lean towards democratic confederalism, another libertarian socialist theory which is being put into practice in Rojava today, currently on its 7th year of autonomy, also based on direct democracy, worker's co-ops and confederation instead of statehood.

You lefties have been crying since 2016, so we won't notice any difference.

spicecrop lol

spicecrop although am not a leftie but ok

@@spicecrop Snarky A~~hole Troll

That's what scares me. The Establishment has the satellite weapons platforms in orbit.

@@Theomite But the establishment is now on the side of open borders. Things have changed. Noam's view no longer seems as relevant. I love him, but.

@@johnnonamegibbon3580 True, the Status Quo is being more open with borders and giving much needed progress, yet the ultanationalists still pose a significant threat. For these reactionaries will continue their treachery as much as possible, attempting to strangle progress and individualism; using either deception or violence. Ultanationalism as whole should never be underestimated, wether it comes from Indonesia, Japan, Israel, Brazil or the United States.

Bro shut up

And your point is?????????????????Thanks for the sermon...

I wonder how those three guys would respond to being called that.

That’s facts

History doesn't repeat but it damn sure echoes

no

Sure, but it definitely makes you an idiot.

😂😂

Noam is a playa. 😄

So that would make her around 50?

@@AJ-xm4xc her age

Pohaku Mana Yes, yes, her age around 50, yes or no?

He's dead wrong. Corporations are now largely globalist.

No, the will of the people is not wrong, but intellectual progressives like Chomsky think that they know better than everyone else...In their arrogance, they know what's best for you...

He is not biased. he is a globalist and supports one world government..That's why he tries to label any country that believes in nationalism as bad....

Nuance? In 2019? What are you?

34 seconds in! It was WONDERFUL! Especially when we sang him HAPPY BIRTHDAY! at the end and gave him a cake :)

@The Doge-Emperor of Dogekind Why do you say that? I was about two rows further back from the camera that, likely, took these shots. I am hoping to use my time there to share with some that I know who do not know Noam much. It was also motivating to see such support and to hear his thoughts. Also, I hope to encourage others to see Noam as well as others. Seriously, may I ask why you stated that I am "retarded or some fucking egotist." for enjoying to sing Noam Chomsky "Happy Birthday"?

(Opps, I reread my comments and noticed that I typed "me" and not "him" regarding the cake. lol I fixed that right away! If that is what lead to your reply, I suggest that you tell people why you think their statements are rude and not just shame them. Thank you.)

Happy for you, but that's not why were here.

Right and far-right is a label and nothing more. The left has to label everything or their division doesn't work. They can't call conservatives who love their country, who have faith in America, believe in low taxes and limited government, conservative. If they did, people might be smart enough to find out what it means and join them, and ignorance is their weapon for control.

oy vey

@@wa57s577 Well if you're a privileged liberal or an immigrant you will improve your situation, of course. I'm talking about the country as a whole - the majority of ordinary people. According to YouGov.de, 72% of Germans said their immigration policy is "negligent" - only 12% think it's right. In fact "A report from the Institute for Employment Research found that just 10 percent of the working-age refugees who arrived in 2015 were employed by 2017". This is just one of many scandals. Merkal was eventually pulled out of her liberal ivory tower by the reality three years after implementing her policy. She began to significantly backtrack on her policy by agreeing to speed up deportations of refugees who had already registered in the EU. Don't misunderstand me, I do not think the immigrants did anything wrong. It was Merkel and her policy that has proven itself unworkable which is the problem. She should help immigrants but in a way that takes into account the resources of ordinary people - which she and her other privileged liberal friends used to fund their policy.

@@wa57s577 This is my point! It's impossible for these immigrants to be trained properly or get jobs because there are so many of them. Merkel is throwing tax payers' money into a black hole. I'm not saying it's the immigrants fault. It's Merkel's fault for attempting to implement a policy that was doomed to failure from the start. Liberals have a tendency to think that resources are unlimited, that you can have your cake AND eat it. Would it not be better to let fewer in and train/integrate them properly than to open the door to floods of immigrants (not all of whom are refugees).

Alright taking the wheel for life and love hopefully with some intelligent advisors and coaches. Ive waited my whole life to have the opportunity to !ive without hatred and violence

And woulb be good for all of us. Perhaps then we would be able of see all of us like brothers

@@antifazisbonifaz6964 Not entirely. I get the giggles thinking of all the scientists who will rage quit their field when they learn that their theories were wrong and then see them arguing with alien scientists who know better.

@@Theomite 😁😁😁👍👍

OK, just remember, you can vote socialism in, BUT YOU CAN'T VOTE IT OUT

Just so you know, it was completely sold out and as one of the silly people freaking out in the line, I saw many people leave very sad that they couldn't get in.

But he's so wrong here it hurts. Corporations are no longer nationalist,. They are globalistic in nature.

Anti-capitalist? You have socialism.....How do you know what the people want? What country are you in? Capitalism cannot co-exist with socialism....

@@mikelovetere4719 I'm saying that Chomsky is setting up a false reality where you can't be anti war and pro nation/people. He acts as though it's open borders or nothing.

That's all it is is a utopian vision.. just like Karl Marx had..How's that working out?

To: @@michaellovetere8033 The truth shall set us free. And that is the truth. Marx did not figure that Criminals would take over the Government. Just like every Government. Good call Michael.

That's a stupid comment making assumptions that are not in evidence...

For someone that has never watched Fox news, please don't think you can determine your own facts.

Ismael Garcia Clearly,you are one of those fools who uses terms that you don't understand,like globalism.Your ignorance is frighteningly evident.Knowing as little as you do,your life must be virtually stress free.I envy you.

@@joer.3240 They're right. I prefer nations to open borders, fam.

scasey1960 Julian assange.

the asian leftwing were always nationalistic and will stay so

What happened to Lula was just heartbreaking. I hope that Bolsonaro does not do the horrible things he is capable of....alot of us in America are praying for the good people of Brazil...you deserve better....stay safe

I heard about this from the Alt Right, ironically. Noam seems to think that all nationalists are like Bolsonaro. They aren't. The US supports Bolsonaro so long as he does their bidding. In Europe and America they want open borders, though. Different story.

Yes, i would say he is a fear-monger.

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You can have ours...Must warn you though..his only claim to fame is being a linguistics teacher. He found out he could make more money being a liberal guru...

Noam is wrong here, guys. Corporations are now in favor of globalism, as it grant them more power. He's working off a dated model.

Syed Siraj You forgot about Hungary,Poland and Austria.

Not the city of brotherly love any longer thanks to the democrat party

Agree. I play Chomsky at 1.25 speed... smooths his voice a little

It has caused many civil wars in the past, countries are diverse. Spain is just one example, mentioned in this talk.

Don't be.

Dr Winston O'boogie By the way, I should have mentioned how embracing diversity enriches us as people and as a culture. Don't be afraid to try it.

Not really “just meaning” ...the meaning is more like superiority, chauvinist, chauvinistic, jingoist, jingoistic, nationalistic, superpatriotic

@@zubairhussain3645 The only road to war and chaos is ignorance.

Don't forget, his audience is utopian seeking liberal minds that think they can change the world by legislating human nature. Since he has become a multi millionaire selling this pablum to radical starry eyed liberals, it seems a lot better to him than his meager salary as a linguistics professor....

Mexico is run by the cartels and they control some of the worlds largest narcotic supplies. They have lots of reasons to resist and there's nothing altruistic about it.

The "rise" of nationalism?...Nationalism isn't something new. Communism cannot co-exist with cultural nationalism.

@@michaellovetere8033 are you joking? You folks can't separate theory from reality.

How about Chomsky debating Dr, Thomas Sowell?