it's hard but unfortunately, if you are a fighter, you have to reckon with this. but I think the UFC should start an organization to help fighters in their old age, they deserve it
The fighters that are making millions now could band together and help the guys before them who made peanuts. Maybe the UFC could match what they donate too. At least have their medical bills paid for life.
He's done tbh. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of some complications from him later down the years... We already had that one police phone call from his wife about him having a mental break down, punching everything in sight.
@@hahahahailold No matter the fighter the ricochet damaage from head truma is impossible to condition. There's no way to train the skull or the brain. Your only options are dodging the punches, or bracing for the impact as best you can.
@@jupiterapollo4985 Years back I was working a medical training module with doctors from.. household name sports hospitals hired by the NFL. They were trying to make a new helmet that could reduce CTE, and the consensus from actual scientists was essentially "You can't make an airbag for the brain". This was in my head when a new sparring partner was not pulling punches. Anybody who's fought knows how annoying it is when the new kid comes in swinging, and the urge is to strike back and remind them who they're dealing with. My strength really was stone hands, and I after what I learned was afraid to fire them. The funniest thing I ever did was counter that prick with an elbow lock and roll him into an RNC. And to be honest, I wasn't doing favors. I was protecting my brain first.
Moat of the competitors probably have brain trauma to even consider that a good idea, or even a "sport". I wanna see nutsack kicking take off as a "sport" lol. Like...no...it isnt...and will never be.
Women doing it looks harmless (e.g. b*tch slap). Men often use the palm of their hand, which can be as hard/painful as a fist. Every hard hit to the head does damage.
Having boxed for a while, i think someone who really knows a guy will be able to see a change after each beating. People forget about the beatings it takes to become champ. I think Ali said he thought he was going to die against Frazier the first time.
@@miggs80yes there literally is a correlation between head trauma and parkinsons. A simple Google search will tell you that you're wrong. Denying science isn't helping anyone. Plus he almost definitely had cte on top of having parkinsons
@@GamesWithBrainz There is zero doubt of this. Tris Dixon's book Damage, talks about the impact Ali COULD have had if he'd come out saying that he was suffering from the old school term 'dementia pugilistica' - now called CTE. But he didn't and wouldn't admit boxing had destroyed him.
The last story hit me hard. I watched my dad have a brain aneurysm and my mother sit there when him for a year helping him recover. We’re lucky that he’s recovered almost 100%, but it’s such a scary thing that can happen so suddenly.
It's makes me angry. People under rate the danger of illegal (back of the head) shots. Leaders like Dana White don't compensate fighters or even want to speak of head trauma. As with the NFL, it may end these sports.
lol my guy... These sports will never end. Stop exaggerating. Not every fighter has problems when they get older too. Just chill out. Fighters start fighting, even when they know the serious consequences.
What makes me angry is people that think and clickbait Muhammad Ali as a victim of CTE, his condition has no scientific evidence that it was caused due to his boxing career!
I had an uncle who was known as a great amateur boxer in his 20's and 30's. Due to CTE, by the time he was in his 60's he could barely walk and talk. Only a few people could understand him and all he'd talk about was boxing.
Yea like everyone doesn't already know about CTE and isn't already more than aware of it and the horrors EVERYBODY knows about CTE and they talk about it and joke about it, Jesus there's even a subreddit with a crap ton of people dedicated to mocking a guys CTE 'isms How much more awareness do you people need?!?!?! You want it literally plastered everywhere and talked about constantly?
@@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKKOnce in a while should be fine and literally there's no harm for speaking about CTE awareness. Except IF you're having CTE and not aware of it then would go on a nonsense ramble in the internet of how dangerous it is to watch or listen about an awareness video about CTE and telling others that CTE is a joke its not real its a faguzi baguzi bogus thingy. You should get check IF so.
Well, if they stuck to the premise and made it an actual slap contest, it would not be as harmful, but, yeah, in reality is about punching each other in a face with weight of your body added, that is stupid
That sh*t is the most retarded competition I have ever seen and a disgrace to professional sports. Why anyone could want to be a part of the garbage is beyond me.
He's not putting a gun to their head..And it's not like he's invented it. The real tragedy is that there are humans that train and literally CHOOSE to commit their lives to that "sport". If anything, I'd rather it be ran professionally (by Dana) instead of some broke ass company legit paying them nothing to "perform". I still think Dana should do something to help retired fighters who clearly have had their brain turned to mush. Maybe a lifetime payment? The UFC is a multimillion dollar company and probably still growing. He could probably easily toss a couple grand a month to the trailblazers. (Tony Ferguson, Liddell, Cerrone, and other OGs who literally built the sport but suffer because of it.)
imagine being the best poet in all of boxing history just to find out youll lose the ability to speak and do daily things in a few years (emphasis on speak)
I think it's more or less the consequences afterwards arent openly spoken about in gyms so much, there is little money in combat sports unless you're in the 0.001% (silly estimate). Most gyms require good fighters to be profitable, so to talk about your career after fighting isnt spoken about so much.
Fans talk about it, but nobody who can make a difference in the sport talks about it. The UFC doesn't talk about it, their medical team don't address it, theres no after care or protocol in place to combat this because it isn't talked about enough by the people who need to talk about it. Don't be so naive
I have heard that 45-60 sessions in an oxygen chamber have given relief and even corrected symptoms of CTE. They have portable home units now too, but they don't give higher pressures like the solid chambers. Get your friends with CTE to give it a try. My friend with CTE is too proud to start treatment, but I will be an example of health to him when I start sound wave treatments on my brain for tremors later this Spring. Anyone can talk!
Thank you for this info! Also, psilocybin mushrooms (aka, magic mushrooms) also repair CTE, and the repair is permanent and ongoing, though whether someone could repair their brain back to almost normality is something I am unsure of, the results have been substantial in the few people this has been tested on. It's 100% advised that people go to a professional clinic to have this administered though rather than at home.
Same with American football We all know this, these people just don't care and just want to make money, same with the content creators, same with the bosses of these orgs
Just remember that DANA WHITE gambles with more money than it would take to pay for the care of all the fighters with CTE from boxing and MMA combined when you buy his PPV's. Join us old Rogan Board members and watch the PPV from TORRENT on Sunday. 🤙🏿
@@69meplease100 The fuck are you rambling about? Dana can colonize the sport, get Uber rich, and watch the fighters who got him rich languish in psychological hell because "it's not his responsibility"? Come on, Dana deserves some good hard concussions if he thinks like you.
Thats why I stopped kickboxing when I was young. I got kicked in the head back then, total blackout, concussion, took me like half a year to fully recover. After that I often felt kind of depressed, which simply was never the case before. That scared the shit out of me and even though kickboxing gave me lots of confidence and changed my life for the better at the beginning, I just wanted to avoid injuries like that. And when you then take a look at what professional fighters go through, thats so insane it makes me question my hobby of watching people beating the living sht out of each other. Like Mark Hunt for example, I love the guy...and its kinda sad that the now has to pay the price after all the sht hes been through. I really hope it wont get much worse than it already is.
I wanted to get into mma/kickboxing because I had delusions of grandeur despite being a small unathletic guy, but seeing Gary goodridge in his later interviews immediately made me smarten up
McClellan is one of the few I have zero sympathy for. The guy was a scumbag. He used to feed puppies to his pitbulls. In a huge display of irony he also openly said before that fight that he wanted to do to Benn what ended up happening to him. McClellan was a bad person that karma caught up to.
@@stevepalpatine2828 I hear you, but at the end of the day I'm sure Benn knew that but in the end after it's all done human compassion can sink in especially if you have a purists mindset. Benn is no angel but at least you can try to empathise with McClellans situation. I don't advocate bad behaviour but I'm not going to want to see someone suffer. Even if someone wanted it for me.. You just have to have a soul sometimes.
This is a good video to highlight the dangers of CTE. Everyone should remember Kazuki Anaguchi, a Japanese boxer who lost his life from damage sustained after a BRUTAL match on the co-main of the most recent Naoya Inoue card. Slipped into a coma after the fight ended, and never woke up despite emergency surgery.
@@Justinicus24 An average of 13 boxers die in the ring a year btw. It’s not a common occurrence at all, and especially not in pro sanctioned bouts on big cards these days. Boxing is a sport, not a fight to the death lil bro lmao.
Thanks for bringing awareness to this aspect of contact and combat sports. If anyone's interested, I'm on a team currently trying to develop a therapeutic to mitigate CTE, and we're trying to gauge interest from people into how badly they want us to solve this problem.
Believe it or not your head is a sensitive area. This happens to a lot of fighters and other contact sports that’s why I respect Floyd mayweather for changing the way he fought from pound for pound knockout king to mastering his defensive ability to avoid hits to head not all of them but most of them.
Hey man thank you so much for this video It’s so sad and it made me tear up but it is very important and necessary that these kind of videos reach the masses Very very great job on this one too
One of the other sad outcomes for fighters is that they are left destitute after their careers are over. Many who's intellectual abilities were affected by head trauma were also taken advantage of over the years and saw them with nothing to their names once they retired such as Rocky Lockridge and Bobby Chacon to name a couple.
Yeah it was sad. Although I do have one question, It appears the fighter and his wife are Muslim and presumably his children are too. Why are they writing to Santa Claus lol?
@@MichaPawelec-tz4ub that doesn't make sense to me. Typically if the mother and father are Christian/Jewish/Muslim then so are the children. So it seems bizarre that Muslim parents would have their children writing to Santa who is a big part of a Christian holiday. I mean the letter doesn't actually go to anyone, usually the parents are involved in keeping up the appearance of the letter actually going to Santa Claus.
@@TYBG85 Hey man, a muslim myself here, as you said santa claus is just an imaginary thing. It does not matter if the letter goes to anyone. It is just an excuse to make your children happy. And I'm pretty sure its not haram. So no problem.
I boxed silver gloves then tried again in the navy. Tried mma and came out ok. Then got in an arguement one night and got a crowbar stuck in my head by a nice gentleman. Now at 53 it’s hard to type this due to my shaking hands and I have trouble speaking. I can talk fine I just can’t say what I’m thinking (it’s hard to explain). But you play the cards your dealt. I can still work out and I have a big family. It’s been a ride, that’s for sure.
Actually that’s the point they don’t know the risk no one does. Head trauma is like snowflakes. No one knows how it’s gonna impact the person. Look at OJ, researcher asked the family to look at his brain after he died to check for CTE. They refused. Disgusting.
Each blow to the head creates tiny bruises in the frontal lobe of the brain, which controls personality. Every injury to a nerve cell is permanent, so after Full contact K.O. everyone should have taken a break of at least six months. Sports supplements that affect neurotransmitters, some of which are also produced in the colon, should also be avoided.
Im a civilian have had about ten good concussions. Lost my sense of taste and smell for about six months… I can’t imagine what life is like for these guys.
Every fighter when they come to a gym is told the risks of fighting eventually , CTE usually happens if you stay in the ring to long , or have bad defensive skills and get in to manny fights , if fighters do not want CTE get good at defense , eat healthy , workout regularly , and most important know when to walk away from the fight game and retire , CTE is a shame but it will not happen to every fighter
What you're saying is more important than people realize. My fight philosophy is to absorb as much knowledge and skills with taking as little damage as possible. You need to completely understand everything that goes into fighting. How to avoid unnecessary head damage, taking care of each other and promoting well being. FIghting isn't a sport where you can screw around, EVERY shot counts, every single one. You should make defense the most important thing. Longevity should be one of the most important things to any fighter.
He was great, but his issues began when he started to fight elite boxers in his divisions. Elite fighters back then didn't throw a lot of punches, but the few they threw were unforgiving, mercyless and technically reckless. One example that comes to me is his fight vs Sugar Ray Leonard. Doesnt appear to be that dangerous to the untrained eye. But from my op, former boxer, every punch that landed on Will wasn't soft nor flicked. Leonard throw hard crisp solid blows.
I was an ambitious amateur fighters before chronic hip injuries and surgeries forced me out of fighting... almost a decade later, now that I finally feel close to 100% physically again, I picked up training again and still contemplate chasing the fighting dream... but i also think my injuries may have saved me from brain damage and i should use my brain for something more productive instead.
This stuff is so sad. I noticed I don't enjoy UFC the way I used too 10 years ago. Seeing men being struck with deadly force for money and entertainment is mostly just sad to me nowadays.
Nobody talks about CTE? Bullshit! People have been talking about the effect of blows to the head for years. Where do you think the term 'punch drunk' comes from?
I remember McClelan clearly bc he probably had the most natural power of all time. The way this dude finished his fights was brutal, so you can only imagine what could’ve become of him if he remained healthy
As much as I wanted to be a boxer, I have always had the frame for it (6 foot 135lbs) and have kept fit enough for it...I realized I like my brain and my face more than the sport. I still train like I wanna box, but it is just for fitness and pride, at this point. I dont even really watch it anymore, either. I have enough brain trauma from playing rep hockey growing up.
Thing is that you see fighters that make it out and are normal with riches the thing is that’s only like 2o percent of them the fighters you don’t ever see again are the ones who can no longer speak or see strait and are dealing with these type of things in there life… you don’t see what happens to these people..
Fighters have a real danger of this occurrence but it should be investigated how does this effect sport enthusiasts that try to do amateur fights and semi pros or that are recreationally engaged. Because there is large number of people that could be effected without knowing.
I’m only an amateur boxer. Only been boxing for 4 years. Just in those 4 years, with all the sparring, sometimes I notice things or I mumble. It’s scary. But I still go back to boxing. I can’t explain it. I’ll never be pro. But I can’t stop going.
I get it, man. I'm a martial arts since I was a child. Training becomes your personality. A source of esteem. You can't just do something else that gives you the same thing. But, look at it this way: you will lose your sport. Its not an if, its a when. The question is if you lose everything else too. Try other sports that match the intensity, but not the risk. BJJ, HEMA, and Judo all could be up your ally.
I had a brief episode with drug induced depersonalization and it was a living HELL. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Luckily mine only lasted for a few days, some people have it for decades. So many people don’t understand the true terrors of having a mental illness, it is a nightmare. Do not be afraid of cancer, diabetes, etc. be afraid of mental illnesses like CTE, Alzheimer’s, etc. they will wreck you far worse than any physical pain.
Before you pity Gerald McLellan, remember that he was involved with dog fighting; one time, he even taped a Labrador's mouth shut so that his pit bull could kill it for sport.
I stood behind Joe Frazier for about 90 minutes, while serving food & wine to him & his table, at The Philadelphia Museum of Art in late 90's. I heard he & his table's conversations & it was pretty evident that Smokin Joe had TBI. Not as bad as Ali but, very noticeable.
Sadistic masses pay money to see two young individuals hurt each other, sometimes permanently. I don't get why the opponents and fans get sad. What do they expect? THIS is what fighters sign up for and this is what those sadistic masses pay for: Permanent injuries, Parkinson's, paralysis, brain damage. Make no mistake: This is not a sport; this is the modern version of those savage gladiator fights of ancient Rome. The referee is there to prevent the fighters from killing each other. Deep down you know it. If you watch/pay for/practice martial arts, you don't have the right to be sad when these things happen.
I’m destroying my body every single day at work. I’m around fumes and hazardous chemicals all day. It’s leeching through my skin, eyes, and lungs. Not to mention my back, shoulders hips and hands are messed up. Real men make sacrifices for their family the best way they can and do it with pride. So I don’t really feel bad. Most are making way more than I am. I have zero medical help either.
That's nothing to be proud of. Your pride in being a "real man of sacrifice" is ridiculous. Get a better job and enjoy your life. You think ppl with think "wow he took all those toxic chemicals and died early. I want to be like him." Ha. Wake up call.
McClellan wasn’t a nice person to begin with. Doesn’t justify his condition but people think he was a saint. He wasn’t. As for his sister? Pffft. Look it up. Nigel Benn was/is a gentleman.
Karma caught up with him. McClellan is the one person I have no sympathy for. He used to feed labradors to his pitbulls and in a huge display of comical irony he openly stated before that fight he wanted to do to Benn what ended up happening to him. Karma caught up with "G Man" and he deserves zero sympathy.
sorry i couldn't watch the video all to the end . great respect for those men and women dedicating their life to the sport , i wouldn't be able to stop what your heart is telling you to do .
Why not a dollar from every ticket sold, and matching donations from corporate sponsors at every MMA and pro boxing event for CTE research and treatment? That and mandatory brain scans before every fight, plus emergency treatment by competent professionals, along with scheduled ambulatory trips to the trauma ward, after every fight, trips fighters, if they want to keep their license, can't refuse? It occurs to me, absurd as this will sound to purists, that fighters should be wearing headgear (not that this prevents concussions), plus avoiding head-shots at all cost during sparring. Doesn't matter who you are, you could be the 2nd coming of George Chavalo's chin, the human head will only suffer so much abuse, and things don't improve with time. There's this thing called TAU protein and presumably a simple blood test could be developed to test for this. A lot of fighters wouldn't want to know, but ignorance, in this instance, is NOT bliss ... That's about all I got... Just trying to think outside the BOX(ing ring) PEACE OUT
Well yea that sounds good in theory but not in application that would cost way too much money. Also the best way to eliminate cte would be to get rid of combat and contact sports. Brain damage is just like any other overuse injury excepts it doesnt get better it just degenerates further.
Because CTE research is like cancer research, they only treat it and not cure it. It has to do with hematoma and disconnected neural pathways in the brain after the brain tissue suffers damage. Many of these cases are literal brain damage, worse than CTE, but very much the same. Making your body healthy (alkalizing), retraining your neural connections with exercises, and not taking massive amounts of drugs (like a lot of these guys) will generally get a person to be functional again. Brain damage is what it is, there's billions of connections and realistically speaking, the surgeons would have to get lucky with their "research" i.e. it would be guesswork
Although this channel has done the right thing by highlighting these incidents and rightly so I don't feel the video has done enough to state that these cases are rare
Every fighter will have some level of CTE, even Floyd Mayweather, though some will be barely noticeable if noticeable at all. A lot of fighters have bad memory loss when they retire as well as other cognitive issues, and the majority of their brain trauma is accumulated through hard-sparring rather than fighting.
That last one broke my heart they are all heart braking. There is one real wife and women here that stood by her husband when in 90% of cases they leave. I applaud her for doing what she doing and the sister taking care of there brother they need there props
What bothers me the most is the Fickle Fans of MMA, etc, when they make fun of fighters for falling or losing or whatever...They have no IDEA what it takes or what its like to be a fighter. They could not last a day in a real fighters shoes, not before the fight, not during, and not after. Respect to all fighters. Their lives should be taken care of afterwards at least minimally for risking their bodies purley for our entertainment.
I feel bad for McClellan, but when I found out he participated in dog fighting and even taped a labradors mouth shut so his pit bull could kill it.....well.....just saying
@carlosgaleotegandara7812 all those 3 guys u mentioned aren't even close to Khabib's stardom Khabib is famous internationally and has millions of fans marathon runner Floyd's stardom is only in america 😂
Less CTE in MMA bc when a fighter is knocked down the fight usually ends with a couple of additional punches on the ground whereas in boxing the fighter is concussed and given 10 seconds to recover just enough to get concussed again
oh yeah people talk about it... but only when it's too late and a fighter is then suffering from the trauma and beyond help. Then people rush in to leave their comments of support...
it is actually kind of wild how no one talks about stuff like this. there’s been more talk of cte in thr NFL than in combat sports. it’s disturbing tbh
Decade? More likes many decades. It's always been common knowledge for anyone with even the slightest bit of common sense. The only difference is before people called it "punch drunk" or straight up "brain damage" and not CTE. CTE is a relatively new term. But the fact that repeated blows to the head cause brain damage has been understood for a very long time. It doesn't take a genius or doctor to figure that out. @@FirstLast-yc9lq
Your question at the end of the video should have been.."who had the worst case of cte?" Cuz to me it was the last one, to have your family take care of you while youre so powerless is just tragic
