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I’m in Alabama and own a construction company and this is the norm. Concrete trucks have to wash out there is a little mess from form boards so it’s par for the course and comes with the territory.
OK, I wasn't going to comment, but I want to put this out there. I have had concrete pours on several projects. Here is what works for me: Normally I provide tacos for the workers around mid-morning. Some of these guys have had little or no breakfast. The food keeps them going better than an empty stomach. Then about an hour before they finish, I give each worker $20 and tell them "Thank you". When they are finished and picking up, I bust out a couple six packs of cold beer. The crew is happy, and I have darn little mess to clean up. My two cents.
You need to write down the entire scope of work before getting pricing from anybody. Have them prepare pricing according to your needs and wants. You will pay for the extra cleanup but If that’s what you want from your subs, then it should be clearly spelled out before pricing is giving. Been building in north Florida for 20 years and you need to out everything in writing. Love your channel! Been watching for some time now. Also, don’t let them strip forms the same day you pour. Let it sit for 24 hrs minimum.
At the end of the day, nobody is going to do what I did as far as clean up. It would have been repeated call backs and further frustration. It's done and on to the next challenge! Much more to come. Thanks for watching.
This! When I built my house I had bid packages made up for all the subs. The bid packages specified everything about the job that was to be completed before payment. And make sure you contractor gets lien releases from all the subs.
This hurts my brain as an electrician. Cleaning up your damn mess after your job is complete is your job as a contractor! Part of the problem is people want quality work without a proper time table. My boss estimated 7 days to rough a slab with conduit. I got my drawings and did my take offs and my conduit routes. I met with the super on the job and he was under the gun. I told him I had exactly what I needed and I could do the whole thing in 2 days plus a day for inspection. Shook my hand. I got a call from my boss saying we had one day. He called for an inspection behind our back. Long and short, I got it done, but never had a chance to double check floor plug placement and wall lugs for where my stubs were coming up. Inspector said the job looked "amazing, great work". The super ended up chipping out 40 square feet of cured concrete slab because I missed a key measurement and dropped my floor plugs 3 feet too close to a wall. If you want quality, including accuracy, clean up, etc, hire top crews and give them the time to do the job right.
Glad you commented. Was hurting my brain too. Installed industrial equipment for decades and each day the work site was cleaned, stowed, and swept. I have to believe the lack care shown on that jobsite creeps into the product they produce.
You have a tractor. Clean it up. The contractor grades, forms, pours the concrete, cuts the joints, remove forms and IF you pay extra they grade the sides covering the excess concrete on the side.
It is your responsibility to make sure everything you expect is covered in your contract. We have had several houses built and always included the clean-up and clean-out responsibility in the contract. The clean-out is done in a small skid that is loaded onto a truck after the concrete job is done. The clean-up is done by part of the construction crew and is deposited in the clean-out skid.
Then you lose all that dirt....and have to pay to buy more dirt. Nobody will do what I did. Just blessed to have the equipment we have to do the job right.
@@PineyGroveHomestead If you are talking about the clean-up, you don't really lose much dirt in the process. Digging out the footings accumulates enough extra dirt to cover it. The clean-up crew in our last build had roadbed fabric down around the foundation forms that caught 95% of the slag.
@@PineyGroveHomestead YOUR OCD expectations are FAR beyond the scope of what is normally expected in construction. It will therefore cost YOU more money or time !!! SIMPLE basic facts of life of a contractor !!
Well Brad you have to be happy with how it looks and like you said ain't nobody else gonna do it like you. Looks great. In 2010 my Bride of 51 years n I had our we thought forever home built 30by40 metal home 4inch pad the Dad n 3 son poured the slab built the house there wasn't anything on outside of foundation when they left. That was only time we had any concrete done. Thanks for sharing be safe
A few years ago I had a new roof put on this 120-yr-old farmhouse, and they did a great job. It was made and installed to Miami/Dade County FL specs, which are the toughest in the country (we're in eastern NC and get hurricanes too), and it's held up perfectly through tropical storms and thunderstorms, no leaks at all. BUT when the crew finished back then and it came time to go around and pick up roofing nails out in the yard, the crew's lead man showed up the day after they finished, right by himself and visibly hung over. When he finished I suspected that he didn't get all the nails up, so I went to Lowe's, bought myself a nail magnet, and went around the house with it. I ended up retrieving about 110 nails that he left behind! Oh well. I still find a nail or two in the bushes every now and then, to this day. Fortunately only 1 nail has ended up puncturing my Jeep tires, and the roofing company paid to have it patched; I had them write that provision into the contract when they were here doing the work. Still happy with the roof overall. I'm getting ready to have a 50'x60' or 60'x60' metal barn built in the field on the other side of the big farm ditch, and will have a concrete floor poured for it. I imagine I'll be faced with the same kind of cleanup you've had to do in this video when that's done. Will probably rent a jackhammer for an afternoon when the time comes. So it goes.
Definitely worth your time and effort. I've worked at many construction sites and that left over concrete trash is always an issue for later projects even for the landscapers. Nicely done.
We dealt with the same issue with our new build last year (see our videos) I think when they pour a monolithic slab like they do in Florida the concrete contractors just don't care beyond pulling off the forms. I spent a TON of time chipping away and moving all of the concrete around our foundation. It sucked. Not only that but once the "stucco" crew came in, they left their waste on the ground too!!! More work. If you want to have a nice landscaping around the house and even ground your forced to do what we did otherwise it would look like crap. :(
@@PineyGroveHomestead After I finished watching your video I had one more comment to make on something you said. Our first house we general contracted ourselves back in 1997. I oversaw the whole project, got to pick the subs, we did what we could do ourselves etc. That was almost 30 years ago and the workmanship was top notch (except ironically for the concrete work on our front porch but that's another story) The work ethic is not the same anymore and at least where we live (Citrus County to your south) the subcontractor pool of works are not good. I would say they are "fair" at best. The running joke around here is the contractors don't know what a square or level is. I know you want PERFECT but if you set your expectations there you will probably be disappointed. I think we are a lot alike (from watching your videos) If I could do it myself I would cause I know it will be done right. It's the world we live in now unfortunately and to get perfect the price will be too high and you'll be waiting forever to get your dream home finished. But do what we did, go in behind the trades and look for mistakes and point them out to the general. There are somethings WE DO have control over. Am I happy with our new home? Yes, perfect? Heck no! Not even close but as time goes on I will likely be fixing what I can if it bothers me too much!
You did a great job cleaning up the house and regrading the soil so the water will drain away from the foundation. It's good that the contractor is coming back to address some of the issues. Small things can turn into big problems later down the road. Best to take care of them now.💖💖💖
Brad, We are 17 years older than you so this is hard work. We hired a helper to help us. It took us all day to rake, lift, shift, shovel, chip, hammer, etc. Without a tractor this would have been very difficult.
Hindsight is always 20-20, just a thought for next time, have a bunch of 5gal pals setup for leftover concrete to be dumped into. Maybe type of tie-down etc. Just keep looking to the future! Hope the rest of your build goes well, Mark & Mark at the Cay.🌴🇨🇦🇺🇸👍
I hope that brick ledge is a joke? The ledge should absolutely be part of the main slab that is extended out and not on that leftover material from the pour.
I finished my owner builder house in central Florida 8 months ago. I got exactly what you got when they were done. Especially when they have a pump truck, that leaves so much extra concrete at cleanout. Everyone leaves it like this. It’s bad but it’s the way they do it.
Great attitude!! I have had those very same issues on multiple home builds but never took the time to do what you’ve done and down the road, I always wound up regretting it! Great move on your part!!
We're in Dallas and had Pulte build our home. Pulte is a national builder and did an excellent job on the house; however, the landscaping needed to be revised. We've been in the house for 6yrs without any concerns, but the landscape was so bad that we would never consider that company again.
You did a great job on the cleanup of excess wasted concrete. Your experience is nothing new in comparison to where I live. If I don't contractually specify the level of detail I desire and expect, they will screed off excess concrete and leave it where it lies. Also the concrete truck will want a place he can rinse out his truck on site. On jobs where an excavation contractor is used as a sub, it typically ends up as his responsibility to cleanup and haul away all construction debris as he prepares to finish his portion of the contract which may be just rough grading, or finished grading and seeding, (etc, etc.) Again, anything unspecified becomes the responsibility of the homeowner. Keep up the good videos!!
I forgot to mention: Where an excavation contractor is used, they (rightly so) complain about the mess concrete contractors leave for them to clean up, load up, and haul away. Most excavation/landscapers are used to this issue.
Who wants to be tied up in litigation over this type of stuff??!! Building a house is stressful enough. We got through this hurdle....I'm sure there will be more. Thanks for watching!
Absolutely nothing wrong w the way you handled your foundation clean up! I've never been in your shoes, but I could see your reasoning in taking care of your forever home!
Brad I do remember you showing this before and talking about your frustration from this.... Still alot of progress and I am enjoying the journey..if you have any other options where I can make contact outside of social media let me know. You are the best sir!
I think you are talking about this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BBRIrgOiBz4.html That one was not as bad or the sting is gone because it was 2 years ago! Thanks for watching.
I definitely think what you did was worth it. Not only could the concrete chunks under ground cause issue with future digging, like you mentioned, but if you plant grass there it could cause hot spots and make growing grass difficult. Awesome work. I would have absolutely done the same thing. Three days of your time for a lifetime of benefit.
Probably had the same concrete slag, but most of my footers were two or more feet below grade and got covered with gravel. Also no lawn we only have gravel around the house. My problem was the contractors threw their water bottles gloves ect into the footer area to be buried. The worst trash we had to pick up was cigarette butts.😮😮😮😮
@@PineyGroveHomestead can’t wait to see them. I’m very excited right along with y’all..
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As a homeowner in Southern California I had a contractor replace my roof several times. Each time I had to climb up on the roof with a can of mastic after they left. Always found small areas which would have leaked if I had not patched them. They are not 100% kind of people, be happy if they do the bulk of the work and do the cleanup yourself.
We had a concrete tile roof installed after a Cat 5 Hurricane. $72K roof.....the workmanship was awful....kept calling them back. At some point, you just live with it. Sad.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Hmm… Depends on your skill with the bucket. But at least you could get the tractor in a position where you could simply tip the chunk into the bucket.
A local town park I work at on the grounds had 2 baseball dugout pads poured by a few volunteers and afterwards there was this stuff on the ground that we had to come back and break up with a sledge hammer.
Most people can expect Excellence, but they cannot afford it, why most bidding is based one to get the job and do an average job, you want perfection YOU cannot afford it !!!!
I think I might have got a little too crazy with it....the teeth would probably rip too much! I used it after this pour: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BBRIrgOiBz4.html
This seems to be the norm in Florida. We’ve had three pours done on our homestead over the last year by three different companies. No clean up whatsoever by any of them. We’ve also got terrible surface finishes from all three (which is why we kept trying different contractors). The floor inside of my new 60 x 80 shop is terrible and we’re still fighting about it. Eight months and counting and I can’t move anything into the building until they decide what they’re going to do about the finish. On the upside, I have a huge pile of concrete tailings that I’m using for backfill on our new creek crossings. 😁
Our Mega Shed and Barn pour was pretty good by the Corbin boys. The rest, not so much! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7sdkr30xOxs.html
I’ve been doing construction for 40 yrs and it has always been either the owner or the GC has it done when the house is ready for landscaping. Honest to God why is this such a big deal? Of all things to whine about.
They word that was said at 3:13 into the video. "Trust"! Trusting any contractor, especially a GC. Everyone knows that for the last 20 years if you want something done right and with quality do it yourself.
You want what you want. Would I have stressed over it that much, no. Everyone is different and wants things a certain way. Set expectations prior to all other projects so that things are done the way you expect them to be. Not many people will take as much pride in your place as you will so I think it’s normal.
Crews that do concrete for us are required to put plastic liners in the footing that doesn't allow concrete beyond the footer no mater how it has been dug. Also, I have poured a lot of concrete at work, I never missed by that much in forty years. He really made a mistake somewhere. You have what you needed, the mistake was only in warning you what it was going to cost. All in all you are going to have a nice house and that's the goal.
There were several errors in the concrete prep and pour but the good news is we have a solid stable foundation for the house....it just cost a bit more. Thanks for watching!
Here in WV I've never seen concrete contractors clean that up. It usually gets moved into holes by your general contractor. Don't know who's exactly responsible.
Where did the screen come from? And yes Bella's paw print is something you guys will have to always remind you of her one day. You saved yourself between $500 to $1000 doing the cleaning yourself. Remember, not only do you save the cost of the cleaning but you also save that 20% adder which would be another $100 to $200. I am not happy (like I really have anything to say about it) but after pulling the stakes out of the ground make sure he fills the holes AND PACKS THEM. Do not just let him fill those holes. Unless of course he fills them with concrete then no packing is necessary.
back when i was with a company building showers, we darn sure cleaned up after ourselves cause we wanetd the best reputaion possible. after the company got bought out the quality went to the crapper and needless to say they had to clise there doors!
There's so much demand for the few contractors doing this type of work that they don't have to elevate their game. I had a slab poured 15 years ago that was 2" out of square and the GC wouldn't do anything about it because he needed the concrete crew to do future jobs!
@@PineyGroveHomestead yep hard to find people who care about there work! ive worked for good people who care about there work and only a couple that didnt care. thats the good and evils of life!
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I would never build a home on a thickened edge slab. I would have poured a 8” poured wall 36” tall. Then I would have poured the floors and the exterior concrete. Works out great.
after working in the trades for decades I've never seen a clean concrete company regardless of how well they do their work. I think they figure it's just going to be covered by landscaping
Maybe I'm wrong but it looks like you paid for a lot of concrete that wasn't needed for the foundation. My past experiences with contractors are few are honest today. The last guy we had padded the bill, didn't do what was told, revised estimates up after the fact, and used unskilled labor to do much of the work. BTW, the guy didn't pull any permits or have any inspections. I agree few folks are willing to do a good job today. I've spent 3 years trying to get handymen to do some work around the house. They show up & do the estimates. Then when I call them to come out to do the work they won't show up and I spend weeks calling and getting no replies.
In 40 yrs of home excavation I have NEVER seen a floor or wall guy clean up extra concrete. Also if you're pouring concrete form up a couple of squares to put extra Crete that's in the last load Instead of wasting it.
What people have to understand when building, and YOU have a serious case of OCD, you will NOT get any job done to YOUR desires !!!! Contractors do not work to YOUR standards!!! They agree to do a certain job to THEIR standards and they are there to make money and IF YOU are an OCD person YOU probably could NOT afford to have them work to your standards !!! PERIOD !!! They would not make money at that job !!! YOU can specify how and what you want done and you most likely will not get it done the way YOU want it done !!! I don't know how many times I heard the Phrase "This is the way WE do it..." stated when having our houses built. Had the same problem with our concrete sub contractor, he seemed to think he was working for the contractor, NOT me...... until I reminded him I was the guy writing the checks !!! when time to back fill they wanted to push/throw all the rocks and debrie in next to the foundation.....WHOA !!! NOPE !!! Not on my house when I had to dig in water lines sewer lines etc. told him leave that out and I will use MY tractor and haul it to MY huge pile of rocks. Ground was VERY rocky and big rocks, a real problem. But the sub contractors will do as little as possible, knowing the home owner is most likely new at this and they get away with it !!! The contractors usually will not say anything because he will need them on his next job !!!
I see alot of concrete waste on this last pour. They terribly mis calculated the amount of concrete needed. I do clean up the site, remove all debris and grade to slab. That is me wanting the customer to be happy and I being professional. I get alot of referrals! I clean up alot before it completely cures.
@@PineyGroveHomesteadl think having it done right and professional looking is not being a perfectionist. Hearing these horror stories, could you have gone around the perimeter when the concrete was setting up and scribed a part line few inches deep with say a hand spade, that looked like a lot of unnecessary work. Your after site is what it should've looked like all said and done. Good job 👍
Cost plus? Ok so you can keep your cost down by cleaning it up yourself. And yes it is standard practice to leave the excess concrete around the foundation.
If you had spec'd clean up like you did in the contract, then you could demand they do it at no additional charge. But, with cost plus contract you are going to run into this situation all the way through your build. If they clean up you pay cost plus 20%. Your choice the way I see it.
Well, when it comes to the bottom line, it’s your money. You paid for a service to be performed/completed. Sadly, it is difficult to find a contractor that pays attention to details. You did a nice job finishing up! God bless, take carethis next week and the election it’s going to get ugly
Looks like one of the brick ledge was broken/cracked? Why is there so much wood in the ground!! Sloppy and lazy. Great job. I also like to do things right, it's all about expectations.
That one ledge is cracked because they tried to beat the stakes out and it cracked the concrete around it. After I cleaned up, they came back and drilled out the wood stuck in the concrete and patched the ledge. Thanks for watching.
You wasted money paying someone to pour a monolithic slab. You could have easily formed and poured your own stem/footing foundation, then had a sunken slab poured latter. The foundation doesnt appear to be poured at the right height either, should have been pour +8” above final grade/landscaping, its always easier to add material then take away
Concrete with the Haus's website will show you what they are suppose to do, he cleans up after he pours a job and he does a great job, but he is farther north. They should clean up and leave it ready for any landscaping that needs to be done, not what you have there. The old saying is if you want it done right, you do it yourself and you did a good job.
Your Question is also the Answer here. WHY it Matters ? In Construction the PROCESS is to do Steps in ORDER when ever Possible. MEANING ( PROGRESS ) Instead of Back Tracking. WHAT YOU should be MORE concerned about ? NOT Messing UP the HARD work So many others DID on YOUR Behalf. Things like: Cracks, CHIPS, SPLITS, Edges, etc. that were Supporting the Top, Sides, Bottoms, etc. Back in my youth. A Number of contractors were working on Our block and being curious LOOKED at the OVERALL Process. Always being warned to ( LOOK ) BUTT DO NOT TOUCH any of it !!! My Background in NOT YOURS. The entire process of Land ,Development , Construction, etc. is what ( I ) Grew up with and did for multiple decades - PLUS Still. When ever others ( Take it for Granted ) THEY Are HELPING instead of Hurting. (I) try to CLUE them in as to HOW it really makes a Difference. An Example is what YOU did here. UNLESS YOU were SPECIALLY Told to REMOVE, DISCARD, TAKE AWAY , ALL that YOU did? MAN oh Man I would have been * ( P.-I.-$.-$.-E.-D. ) * to show up for an Inspection to find out (ALL) The ways this would be RED - Flagged by those ( BEST Intentions ). There is a SAYING (YOU) NEED to pay attention to here ( NOW ) Before Going any further. WHY ??? ( Only F_O_O_L_$ R.- U.-$.-H. I_N ) So Eager to get YOUR Own hands dirty that MESSING up what Others did is ALL you get credit for ( S A D L Y ) A Paw print WILL NOT Make much a difference. BUTT / YET - Cracks, Splits, Chips, and Other Such DUM-A$$ moves will NOT be Helping YOU Today, Tomorrow, or any where going forward - either to be Quite Clear. *(IF)* God did give you more on top of your shoulders to be used for more then just a Hat Rack ? It Appears to be the E X A C T Opposite by these foolish ways and processes. Instead now adding in Road Blocks, Detours, and such for others. ( THIS ) DID Nothing more then to P_R_O_V_E P-U-R-E * ( I G N O R A N C E ) * In Every Possible Direction for sure. NORMALLY (I) Have Positive things to say. YOU CREATED P R O B L E M S Where there were NONE Stupid is - A$ - S T U P I D Does ! ! !
