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The new album "Modulation - FINAL FANTASY Arrangement Album" by Nobuo Uematsu.
The album will feature the "True Uematsu Sound," which Uematsu himself sampled and reconstructed from the original sound sources.
What exactly is the "true Uematsu sound"? FINAL FANTASY XIV sound director Masayoshi Soken will find out!
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Nobuo Uematsu
Masayoshi Soken
■Modulation - FINAL FANTASY Arrangement Album
On Sale November 9, 2022
Specifications: Analog LP record / Includes: 10 songs / MP3 download code included
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@AlexMoukalaMusic
@AlexMoukalaMusic Год назад
Fantastic interview! I could listen to these two legends talk about music and life for hours. I was lucky enough to have a chance to interview Soken-san and Uematsu-san directly in the past and those conversations already blew my mind, but seeing an interview with them two together is a whole other level of awesome. Especially as a composer. Thank you for making this!
@Cloulu
@Cloulu Год назад
Is like listening to a living legend speaking with his prodigy.
@pei0905
@pei0905 Год назад
植松さんは恥ずかしいと仰るけど、色んなアレンジが世にある中「やっぱり原曲が一番」という感想も多いのがすごい事だと思います。
@user-dy6ep8nh7r
@user-dy6ep8nh7r Год назад
植松さん、いい顔してますね。 大きな功績を成し遂げた男の顔って感じで尊敬します。
@user-qz8oi3jq9l
@user-qz8oi3jq9l Год назад
誰だよあの親父 って幕張の会場でも言ってましたね笑 FFプレイヤーで植松さんのことを知らない人は居ない、それ程のレジェンド!
@Red88Rex
@Red88Rex Год назад
Ugh...Uematsu is 63! i was born in 85 and been inspired by his music since the early 90s with FF4. I would not be a musician without him, period. I am going to be devastated when his time comes. please live another 20-30 years!!!!
@theotherguy6263
@theotherguy6263 Год назад
While Nobuo Uematsu is certainly recognized in the video game world, I personaly feel he's not recognized enough, given the results his work has achieved. Looking back at the FF games he's done - especially 6, 7, 8, 9 & and part of 10 - they were absolutely ground braking and industry-changing products, so significantly narrated by the music, particularly. Obviously they told some great stories, with loveable characters, deep gameplay mechanics and cutting edge graphics, but Nobuo Uematsu's music was the thing that gave them the soul. This unique characteristic that so many fell in love with, and cherish to this day. The newer FFs are still good games with some great musical pieces - but as a whole they clearly struggle greatly to be as influential as the older titles (not meaning sales, but the overall impact). When talking about the greatest video game creations in history I think "Final Fantasy", and when I think "Final Fantasy" Nobuo Uematsu is the first thing that comes to mind, undoubtedly. And I'm so grateful for all the music and emotions! Long live Master Uematsu ✌🏻🖤
@akiinmoonlight79
@akiinmoonlight79 Год назад
He deserves some form of award for all his lifetime achievments within gaming and the music industry Also - multiple grammys for the FF soundtracks ♡
@CorleoBabar
@CorleoBabar Год назад
While I agree in your praise he's basically regarded as the John Williams of video game music. I don't think he's underappreciated, he's probably the most celebrated video game composer of all time
@RobinsMusic
@RobinsMusic Год назад
Final Fantasy 14 as a whole probably has (imo) one of the best FF OSTs ever and I think Final Fantasy 16s OST will have a big impact given that Soken will be the composer for this mainline FF title
@foxypotato3094
@foxypotato3094 Год назад
@@akiinmoonlight79 eyes on me (ff8)won Japan's 14th gold disk award for western music, it also charted in top 9 for a time as well. the only other vg song I know of to do so was Hikari from kh, he does have recognition outside the vg sphere
@ChrisCarlos64
@ChrisCarlos64 Год назад
While I agree that recent iterations of FF haven't been as "impactful" I think in part that gaming landscape has changed so much as a whole, and also the wide breadth of games available just really make it hard for any single game to really stand out and "define" a genre or generation. There are some in recent memory like Breath of the Wild or even No Man's Sky's revival, and a handful of others, but of course even "generation defining" is anectdotal I feel. Also FF 14, like No Man's Sky, managed to save itself and become a really ground breaking MMO game of its own right, still going on, finished one complete storyline and on to another, and still operates as a monthly subscription based MMO which has all but pretty much died except for WoW. Lastly, I think that as people who grew up with the NES era and up of FF games, the new ones will always be compared to older ones, the impact we felt playing them, and that they had on us, and I honestly think that no matter what, it's never coming back. I love many new games, but I alwas go back and repla old games. There's a nostalgia and bias to older games I played that just isn't replicated, but I feel for children growing up with games this generation, they will have those experiences and they will be defining to them, and I don't think it is even "wrong" to assert such an opinion as well. We probably will see articles heralding FF 11 and beyond in ways we didn't think so, and it will be no less accurate to say that some people felt the same way we did playing those early FF games as they do with recent iterations.
@vevi457
@vevi457 Год назад
SOKEN & UEMATSU! BOTH LEGENDS
@user-wi8op6mp8e
@user-wi8op6mp8e Год назад
植松さんの作曲してきた経緯が ソケンさんと真逆になってて それでも双方、努力が認められて、プレイヤーに作曲家として受け入れられてるのは面白いなぁ
@LemonadeFlashlight
@LemonadeFlashlight Год назад
These two haven't just been responsible for some of the best video game music, but of some of the best music in general.
@daioka1115
@daioka1115 Год назад
公式チャットの祖堅さんのコメントがなかなか貴重だった
@midlanderhyur6035
@midlanderhyur6035 Год назад
Nobuo san: I am embarassed to listen to the old tracks I made. Soken san as a FF fanboy: Excuse me?! thank you for this. this is a fun and interesting talk between two legends!
@user-vp3ss5iv6f
@user-vp3ss5iv6f Год назад
FFをずっと支えてきた植松さん FF14で認知され 評価されている祖堅さん 2人に共通するのはジャンルレスな曲を創る事かなと個人的には思いました 小さい頃は ただ『カッコイイ曲』ぐらいにしか思ってなかったけど FFを通してクラシックからメタル、ロック様々なジャンルの曲を聞いてたんだなと 思ったのは大人になってからです FFシリーズをプレイしてきて FF14で音楽を楽しませてもらってる自分にとって どちらも好きな作曲家さんです
@berithhallelu9557
@berithhallelu9557 11 месяцев назад
FF14をプレイしてると、祖堅さんの植松さんへのリスペクトを感じますよね。 BGMアレンジは中には別の方が担当しても、祖堅さんが監修してるでしょうし、The PRIMALSも植松さんのThe BLACK MAGES を彷彿とさせます。 FFサウンドは世界に誇れますね!
@bassontreble
@bassontreble Год назад
It's fascinating to listen to Uematsu-sensei talk about feeling embarrassed over his older works because I'm playing the original Final Fantasy for the first time right now (after having played many of the other games in the series that he worked on) and I'm really taken with how charming and well done the music is
@akiinmoonlight79
@akiinmoonlight79 Год назад
Two Kings 💜🛐
@akiinmoonlight79
@akiinmoonlight79 Год назад
@@TheSlice0flife wtf have you ever played 14 ¿ Soken creates crazy stuff 😭 Well at this point uematsu is a god While soken is a king ×___×
@Ellemtee749
@Ellemtee749 Год назад
@@TheSlice0flife Much easier to say it's not to your taste.That way you don't just have to be objectively wrong in your statement. ;)
@vevi457
@vevi457 Год назад
@@TheSlice0flife clean your ears
@JoSan3
@JoSan3 Год назад
@@TheSlice0flife too much earwax mate? or too much shit music corrupting your brain?
@regizero333
@regizero333 Год назад
Cash money!!!
@doh-chan
@doh-chan Год назад
この神2人の会話はいつまでも聞いていたい
@mintymedic3189
@mintymedic3189 Год назад
I feel for Uematsu-san when he says he doesn't like to listen to his older compositions in their original from. It's like looking back on artwork you drew when you were younger and ask yourself why did I do that? Other people love and appreciate it though and that is what matters. We are often our most tough critics. Keep on rocking on dude. Yourself and Soken-san have given me hours of musical enjoyment over the years. :)
@foxdavion6865
@foxdavion6865 Год назад
All great artists view their old work with distain because they always look forward and never backwards, they consider their old work a past accomplishment which is to be acknowledged at best and inferior to their current vision at worst.
@Owl90
@Owl90 Год назад
Wow, that Uematsu guy sure writes some beautiful melodies!
@usamimi-no-majo
@usamimi-no-majo Год назад
This was extremely interesting and inspirational...and surprisingly relatable! Sometimes, you kind of forget that even the legends are just regular people, being critical of their own work.
@user-kj5ef2zu5y
@user-kj5ef2zu5y Год назад
こないだの坂口×吉P対談に続きこの2人の対談はアツい🔥
@SovereignKing
@SovereignKing 11 месяцев назад
Only recently discovered Soken by playing the FFXVI demo and I couldn’t get over how well he blended familiar melodies from previous Final Fantasy’s. It really makes you feel like Uematsu is still in the seat, spearheading the music. Soken is the perfect successor to Uematsu! (Also have to say that Uematsu is my favourite composer/songwriter of all time and we share the same birthday!)
@Ravlei
@Ravlei 11 месяцев назад
Even if you're not someone that's interested in playing FF14, I'd recommend looking up his work on that game, too. There are quite a few FF14 music videos here on RU-vid that are amazing.
@SovereignKing
@SovereignKing 11 месяцев назад
@@Ravlei Thanks for the heads up! Sounds like FFXIV has reinvigorated the entire franchise (along with FF7R)
@MattAndre24
@MattAndre24 11 месяцев назад
It's worth noting that Masashi Hamauzu, Naoshi Mizuta, and Takeharu Ishimoto are also genuinely very talented as well! Hamauzu worked on the X soundtrack with Uematsu long before doing XIII and VII Remake, as well as a few SaGa games... *And* he was bass singer for original FFVII's One-Winged Angel choir! Ishimoto's work on Crisis Core and Type-0 is excellent, and Mizuta's work on FFXI Online and Stranger of Paradise is too! Then there's Mitsuto Suzuki's *excellent* Mobius soundtrack...
@RudeSaiyan
@RudeSaiyan 11 месяцев назад
The bit about Uematsu making the modulation album for himself is super important, I think and really neat that we get to experience it. Think about all the "personal projects" other artists never release publicly. I hope more people take note that it's never too late.
@camillegrinnaux879
@camillegrinnaux879 Год назад
Hearing that Uematsu, like so many artists I know in my life, can't look back on his old work without cringing made me smile. It's just a universal truth when it comes to art, regardless of the medium. No one likes to look back at their old stuff, even when the people around us tell us it's wonderful.
@miubunny9204
@miubunny9204 Год назад
I'm currently experiencing hard days of my life that I even had to stop playing my favourite game, FFXIV because of it. But this video makes me feel better. Seeing two music legends come together and just having a great time, makes everything great again.
@TRONgirl_EXE
@TRONgirl_EXE Год назад
Breaks my heart seeing Soken looking like he does here after all that cancer treatment, and yet I can admire him for staying strong through it all. He and Uematsu-san are true legends!
@naru-tx1dt
@naru-tx1dt Год назад
悠久の風は名曲です。元気をだしたいとき、勇気を出したいとき定期的に聞きます☺️
@tukimoon9904
@tukimoon9904 Год назад
素敵な対談に感謝致します。植松さんが語るLPアナログレコードならでは音楽を聴く“姿勢”。その大切さを祖堅さんがしっかりと受け止める良い聴き手だったのも素晴らしかったです。自分でも曲ひとつとっても大切にしていきたいと心からそう思いました。
@tukimoon9904
@tukimoon9904 Год назад
肝心のことを書きそびれておりました。植松さん、初のアナログレコード発売おめでとうございます!
@burtwonk
@burtwonk Год назад
They’re so adorable. It’s great to be able hear Uematsu speak. As an English speaker he has always been pretty elusive.
@user-bh2ub2cf3k
@user-bh2ub2cf3k Год назад
お二方ともこれからもどうかお元気で😂
@papasfritas3853
@papasfritas3853 Год назад
Thanks both for your incredible music 💖💖💖
@game_music_lovers
@game_music_lovers 10 месяцев назад
FF16の曲も過去作の色んなフレーズを意識していてかなり良かったです!!(語彙力) ありがとうございます祖堅さん!
@Voreten
@Voreten Год назад
Wow this interview is amazing.
@mattduncan3869
@mattduncan3869 Год назад
This interview was such a joy to watch.
@matthagen67
@matthagen67 Год назад
Words cannot express how much Uematsu-san's music means to me. I just love this man and all the work he's done.
@frostieschocopop
@frostieschocopop Год назад
Two legends in the same room... Ah, I've been blessed ^^ But can I just say that every time I see his name, I can only think: "Masayoshi Soken is such a cool name, damnit!"
@czyu3361
@czyu3361 Год назад
Two masters at their work! Can't wait for the album release
@MurakamiTenshi
@MurakamiTenshi Год назад
Thank you 💙 We are all blessed to have the two of you shape our childhood and adult memories.
@Racerguardguy
@Racerguardguy 11 месяцев назад
I thank and appreciate all you have composed. You helped me develop my own tastes in music.
@ShakeyMac18
@ShakeyMac18 Год назад
Uematsu scored my childood. Soken is scoring my adulthood. Life is good.
@AuspexAO
@AuspexAO Год назад
Exactly how I feel.
@strangevision99
@strangevision99 Год назад
I can't wait! Really looking forward to this new album, Modulation. Please just give me an early copy!
@paulcrimson3824
@paulcrimson3824 Год назад
oooh my... two legends right there!
@kashiwameshiP
@kashiwameshiP Год назад
この対談、最高だなぁ…。 最初から最後まで楽しく拝見致しました!
@MatthewKorpas
@MatthewKorpas Год назад
These two are as good as it gets. Masters of their craft. What a great talk!
@BLACKDISC
@BLACKDISC 10 месяцев назад
Incredible interview. I could listen these two talk for hours
@neongrey333
@neongrey333 Год назад
Thank you so much for letting us hear this talk!! I've gone out of my way to learn more about music so I can better appreciate some of the intricacies of both of their pieces, and I've even gone back and listened to a lot of that 70s prog rock and been delighted at hearing where some of my favourite songs had come from. I'm a XIV player but I'm also one of the few North Americans who played 2 and 3 on the famicom-- I had the chance in high school back in the late 90s, so I can say that at least one XIV player loves that old famicom sound! I still smile when I hear a lot of those original songs. I also love the talk about the records-- I think it's really fascinating. I've never been super into the notion of LPs because I don't have any personal memories of records and I don't really believe they sound somehow 'better' just by being a record, but talking about how just the process of listening to music on vinyl changes your attitude towards the music really makes me understand better about them. I can't wait to hear them all!!
@ferdk16
@ferdk16 Год назад
These two have such a wholesome vibe between them, could see/listen to them talk all day
@AL_EVOz
@AL_EVOz Год назад
This was amazing talk on how the pieces of music was created. Watched the whole thing down to every second and listening to the details. Thank you Uematsu-san for making such beautiful music for Final Fantasy. Masayoshi Soken also made some extremely awesome music for FF 14 and the upcoming Final Fantasy XVI. The trailer pieces had such uplifting beats. Im looking forward to listening to the soundtrack when this game comes out in June! Thank you to both Legends!
@nhecos2998
@nhecos2998 Год назад
This is such a treat!
@bob-hf1kw
@bob-hf1kw Год назад
Thanks for the English subs, really appreciated
@niloofarnavaei3752
@niloofarnavaei3752 Год назад
Two legends!!! So happy to see Soken's laugh again. I hope he always be safe and healthy.
@gustinex
@gustinex Год назад
2 people that shape my love for video game music genre. I manage to meet Nobuo san and shake his hand and said thank you for your music. That was the highlight of my life. Now for Soken!
@elmorePOW
@elmorePOW Год назад
I'm almost 40 yo dude and I love you both. Thank you both for the amazing music over the years! Uematsu's music is the soundtrack of my life!
@ponpon8778
@ponpon8778 Год назад
Wonderful interview gentlemen! And along with FF 35th anniversary to!
@Kikoman589
@Kikoman589 Год назад
I'm glad that they included samples of the music. The Main Theme and Eternal Wind arrangements sound really good. I'm looking forward to it.
@Daredevil792Thefinalfantasy
LEGENDS having a convo is just amazing
@brianbogholtz9485
@brianbogholtz9485 Год назад
My two favorite composers together! 👑👑
@alm5851
@alm5851 11 месяцев назад
love your music mr. uematsu!
@Amberpawn
@Amberpawn Год назад
Mmm... Yeah... Everything really does work with prog rock... Delightful to see these two together - Taking a pause to go back and listen to different arrangements of Eternal Wind and you really can hear exactly what soken means about delivering it up to the altar
@rayjinflo
@rayjinflo Год назад
Seeing this two together makes me imagine a jam with the Black Mages and Primals! I'm not one of those people that usually bothers to play other music while playing any Final Fantasy, so I feel a lot of love for both composers after growing into all their looping tracks and watching their bands perform. The way Soken uses Eternal wind in the Shadowbringers theme absolutely feels like he made a gift to an altar. You don't even have to imagine it. The Crystal Tower is right there in the cinematic when it plays. The sky around it is saturated with literal holy elemental light in HD. That's how good it sounds to me, every time I hear that part, I can feel my pulse picking up.
@duongle9005
@duongle9005 11 месяцев назад
Dear Nobuo Uematsu composer, your ff7 music is great. Thank you for your amazing gaming music. A Finalfantasy fan from VN.
@dewaeryadi7776
@dewaeryadi7776 Год назад
Nobuo Uematsu is the reason why i start paying attention to game music back in ps1 era, i was 7 years old back then, its an magical once in a lifetime experience
@atomixfang
@atomixfang Год назад
Wow 2 legends in the same room!!!!
@specialnewb9821
@specialnewb9821 11 месяцев назад
Soken is brilliant, bold, creative. He can be subtle and incisive. But to me I think Uematsu just has that spark of mad genius that comes out in the best of his works that can't be beat. Either way I am loving the FF16 OST and I enjoyed FF14 music a lot too. Absolutely worthy successor.
@alibektas8934
@alibektas8934 Год назад
Two Masters of their craft.
@KooriGraywolf
@KooriGraywolf Год назад
That first couple of seconds is such a powerful frame.
@lak0074
@lak0074 Год назад
I love you Uematsu ... for ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best compositor !!!!!!!!!!!
@theskyisfaling
@theskyisfaling Год назад
i feel so humbled by this video. like i was there but wasnt. kinda strange that i could laugh and smile when they did too.
@tonymaccaroni1683
@tonymaccaroni1683 Год назад
I hope these legends are aware from time to time, of how many hearts they have touched in such a beautiful way with their divine compositions. I cannot thank them enough for making the life choices they made and creating this legacy for us.
@retromemories8522
@retromemories8522 Год назад
For me, the Final Fantasy series is what elevated video games from a fun little pastime to taking it more seriously. Uematsu played a very vital role in that.
@AuspexAO
@AuspexAO Год назад
I love the raw quality of Uematsu-san's early NES tracks. It's like the first album of your favorite band as they wail in their garage with cheap instruments and endless passion. I actually think he shouldn't revisit his old work though. It's hard putting yourself in the creative shoes of your earlier self. That's what makes Soken's adaptations so amazing. He loves those songs and can add his own endless passion.
@seekyyeyes7882
@seekyyeyes7882 Год назад
植松さんの生み出した楽曲は一生体に刻み込まれ、消え去ることは無いでしょう。 伝説😎 セフィロスッ❗️❗️
@SaigaTenshi
@SaigaTenshi Год назад
2 legendary music composers
@chib__g
@chib__g Год назад
I could listen to them talk for hours without end. Both Uematsu-san and Soken-san's works had a huge impact on me while I was growing up, I've lost track how many years it has been at this point that I've spent listening to their music. All of these games also had such a important role to play in my life too so I'm super happy and thankful to see these types of interviews/conversations :D it's super enlightening, not to mention how kind they both are!! The video was a treat, thank you for sharing!!
@drewstar8611
@drewstar8611 Год назад
After finishing Heavensward not too long ago and hearing ‘Order Yet Undeciphered’ for the first time Soken is an absolute beast!!!
@tats_sacs
@tats_sacs 8 месяцев назад
To all FF fans who only play the single player games. FF XiV probably has the best soundtrack in games as a whole.
@mikechua9560
@mikechua9560 Год назад
When I was a child, I spent years leveling around Cornelia since I didn't know how to progress an RPG on Nintendo, let alone know what an RPG was. It was then that I grew in love with Uematsu's music and came to appreciate how each musical piece was the voice of a character, a town, or the game itself. I remember not liking FFX much because of the voice overs and fell out of love for Final Fantasy and would not discover that love again later until the later years of FFXIV through Soken. After that I gave myself time to go back to the other games and isolate Uematsu's score through out the other FF games and have come to enjoy them as they are. Seeing them both here was a great treat. Thank you for bringing these two together to give us, the fans, a little insight into their minds.
@alaskandesign
@alaskandesign Год назад
I didn't ever play III since it wasn't originally released in the U.S. and I had trouble getting the translation file working for my ROM, but Eternal Wind is one of my new favorite pieces because of XIV.
@johnsnow1749
@johnsnow1749 Год назад
TWO LEGENDS!
@kennyamr5
@kennyamr5 Год назад
Both legends ❤️🎉
@r2dezki
@r2dezki Год назад
2 legends, 1 game series. It would be really cool if Uematsu would interview Soken too at some point :D
@drew-baby
@drew-baby Год назад
Two gods just having a chat - 🔥
@moyomon5438
@moyomon5438 11 месяцев назад
2のバトル曲のアレンジ、ラッパよかったですね
@tonertonki
@tonertonki 11 месяцев назад
Legends
@StellaKagami
@StellaKagami Год назад
Legend of legends
@mastrtonberry2
@mastrtonberry2 Год назад
Look at these legends
@ghosttrick2374
@ghosttrick2374 Год назад
Wow Uematsu San its a lot more humble than whatbi thought. Uematsu San you ask if FFXIV would appreciate the old sound of your pieces. Well the reason i am currently playing FFXIV its because of the amazing work Soken San has done implementing your work of those classic tunes
@TheMadSocrates
@TheMadSocrates Год назад
I'm just happy to see Soken looking healthy.
@kvk1
@kvk1 Год назад
Legends.
@aerialdive
@aerialdive Год назад
so happy to see soken looking healthier every day & with his own hair now that he's in remission :]
@richnfg_7882
@richnfg_7882 Год назад
We love you Uematsu
@user-xp9uo1zl5i
@user-xp9uo1zl5i Год назад
27歳でコレ作ったなんてやっぱり天才…
@elvininfante307
@elvininfante307 Год назад
I woke up today to find the 2 people most responsible for my love of game music conversing uninterrupted. What a gift 🎁
@ryunosukeoji
@ryunosukeoji Год назад
コンプライアンスに引っかかる会話が好きだったんだけれどねぇ
@AriaBalmung
@AriaBalmung Год назад
My actual dream is to hear a featuring with Masayoshi Soken and Hiroyuki Sawano. I'm sure it will create the perfect atmosphere for a fight ! I hope it could become reality in a near future !
@AtotheZness
@AtotheZness 11 месяцев назад
I loved Uematsu’s music way before I knew he was the one making it. 1999 - an 8 year old me - playing FF8 - all I remember is the music…and Squalls gunblade! ;)
@user-ho4jo3xe1o
@user-ho4jo3xe1o Год назад
魔界同士サガの音楽も最高でした♪ う〜ん、良い曲です🎵 スクウェアのゲームで初めてplayしたゲーム🎮 オープニングの曲は、マジ最高! 植松伸夫さんの曲だと知ったのはFF ⅤのサントラCDを購入後でした。😊
@volkadros
@volkadros Год назад
Sokenchan! Mexico loves you!!! 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
@vitojosephjoestar3653
@vitojosephjoestar3653 Год назад
Nobou is a LEGEND the world doesn't deserve
@Dioptase26
@Dioptase26 Год назад
One day both these legends will do a collab and it will break the industry
@zinc_trioxide
@zinc_trioxide Год назад
Subarashi!
@skansoul9315
@skansoul9315 Год назад
坂口博信×吉田直樹の対談が2021年に。 植松伸夫×祖堅正慶の対談が2022年に。 受け継がれるFFシリーズの系譜。
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