NOED: A Video Essay - Dead By Daylight 

100% would play that more than the original one 😁

It would probably suck more for survivors since they dont get special powers like the killers do.

@@Handofcrom13 my friends and I actually tried no perks in custom games and it actually wasn’t to bad. You’d think killers have the advantage but survivors still have loops to waste time while gens get done. When it was my turn to play killer I went wraith and destroyed lol so some killers would probably be to good but honestly whenever my groups on we have fun doing this in custom lobbies

This would be impossible for survivors to win. Killers have the inherent advantage in chases and and perks balance that out

how about a mode that gives both the killer and survivors a random set of perks that work with eachother somewhat decently, i feel like i’d enjoy playing with and going against non meta perks

Every killer perk has a counter most survivor perks don't have counters and u can run into 4 each game

@@Demonsouls1993 i mean... every perk has a counter. Dead hard, wait for it. Ds, wait it out. Most of the survivor perks you just have to have patience and wait for it to deactivate.

@Ghim Yong Daryl Ng Then go for the other survivors? Thats not hard. If theres 4 go for other 3. If theres 3 other 2. 2 other 1 and even better since you dont have to worry about losing

@Ghim Yong Daryl Ng you still go after another guy. You waste 5 seconds picking them up anyways if they have decisive and you rather wait around 50 seconds. Around the slugged person?

@Ghim Yong Daryl Ng Thats why either you do something productive and chase someone else and get THEM down, pick em up and deal with ds waste 5 seconds and chase em, OR slug them and get gen rushed. I'd say the former is better since you are actively not wasting your time since you are in a chase with someone else. Or another thing you can do is, go back after they got picked up and if they were working on a gen right away, unhooked someone or healed someone you dont have to worry about ds. But why would you want to tunnel a guy with ds anyways? That would only make sense if its towards endgame and you dont have any kills other then that, its so many variables that you would have to take in order to get to that point in time towards endgame

plus at least in my opinion, the only perks you really need to actively counter. Most other perks are just there. Can be a pain but also dont really need active counterplay outside of what you need to do anyway. Ok Blood Warden is only counterable by not letting so getting hooked during opened gates, which to be fair is the only way to see this perk is in the game at all. on the other hand bloodwarden isnt this much of a danger if you dont get to cocky.

Ur imo is invalid!

@@cloverbolt9050 if I in your eyes am valid or not is not important. Or do you mean my argument? I don't care. ;) It's not important if you think it's valid or not. Especially if you don't give arguments why.

It's fun because It's when the game turns easy mode for the killer so they can get free kills The panic exists but not for good reasons.

@@dandantsm6560 killers still have to find and chase them, its not a static magnet which makes every survivor bumping right into the killer

Exactly some people said I’ll never improve as a killer just cause I said I liked this perk😂😂

I don't know if the other perks work like this, but when playing solo/swf i always bring small game. Mostly for the fact it tells you how many totems have been cleansed. So you can be sure noed is off the table as well as devour.

Most of my builds are geared towards Gens AND totems. I always run Detectives Hunch so i can get 1 gen and then a totem, then find another gen and do it again. Pair that with Open Handed and 8/10 times when a killer has NOED I get it before it pops. I dislike playing against it so I do what I have to do to not be affected by it if its there. It's really not that hard.

Detective's with a map and that purple add-on that reveals everything to all the survivors is amazing on solo queue. It can turn a potato team into a decent one.

Dumbest reply to this I’ve heard is “why should I have to take a perk slot up just to counter a single perk”..... kinda like how having noed takes up a perk slot...

to be fair tho its a lot easier to wait 1 or 2 sec for dead hard then to realize killer has noed and go try to find it as your teammates are getting downed or leaving

because “just doing bones” takes like 5 minutes minimum even with perks for it. Baiting DH takes 2 seconds at the very most

@@thesmalbox692 it wouldn't take 5 minutes if you know where they were maybe if you were running detectives hunch

A counter I've been doing is leave the most obvious dull Totem alone. For example, the one next to the door in the killer shack. That way, if you cannot get to all 4 other totems, at least you have an idea where high chance of NOED Totem is at.

@@thesmalbox692 the video blatantly shows that DH was used to gain space and he ran to the other side of the map to escape. It’s used for distance as well and a dodge.

Yeah. I stopped using that perk because of that. My gamw freezed and teleported killer's face 😂 so im playing silent and sneaky until they fix that issue.

Thats only a recent issue, people have been complaining about deadhard forever.

You forgot to mention you move 1 inch but if you're lucky 2 inches

Yeah you dead hard, freeze for 4 seconds, and unfreeze to your downed body

Nah, it's about when people Dead Hard, get exhausted, but somehow the killer still downs you in that duration where you're supposed to be invulnerable. Another way I've heard it put is, "Exhausted on the floor".

Exactly! It’s a mentality thing. As long as you’re having fun then that’s what matters. If everyone had a better perspective going into the game there would be less complaining

some ppl didn't play for fun :> , i didn't even know if they had to see the sun in morning anymore :>

if you are farming then its a problem k

yeah thats basicly my mindset i will never understand people who only go for kills as killer or vise versa only wanna escape as survivor i rather have a nice game were i heal some people do 1-2gens have decent chases than just do 5 gens escape and have 15k bp with exit

This is the mentality we need

why people hate Noed is because it rewards the killer for losing the game but if they have noed they will have a guaranteed 1-2 kills the argument do all 5 totems is stupid seeing as by the time you do 5 totems the game is already over games are still close when the survivors have to do 5 gens now having to do 5 totems essentially doubling the time it takes to get out because of a single perk is stupid plus you dont even know if the killer has noed till he hits someone

@@ivory5673 facts☝

@@ivory5673 Dude you dont even need a map or perks to learn where the totwms usually spawn, you can literally take it down in 5 min at max if you are doing it alone, while the others do the gens.

@@ViktopRonomis someone is being chased someone is on a hook someone is going to save that person on the hook doing totems just in case there is that one perk instead of doing gens is how you lose games

@@ivory5673 so what about deliverance it literally a jail out of free card

100%! 🙌

This guy: im playing both sides so that I always come out on top.

@@junthetitan 😭😭

Huh

Agreed

True

I don't use noed because I think 3 slowdown are stronger

@@Leonardo.ohime.i Obviously 3 slowdown perks are stronger tf. Anything that stop survivors from doing gens is good.

Lost,when you complain about BT or Ds

Exactly

What is gen rushing exactly? The game is to turn the gens on before the killer kills you right?

@@zenx5763 "Gen rushing" is the killers inability to sufficiently apply pressure but want to blame survivors like its their fault for focusing on their objective. If survivors aren't bringing brand new parts and stuff then you didn't get "gen rushed"

real genrushing would be a certain setup with skill combinations like no mither, Resilience, prove thyself,spine chill etc (there are some options) and using Brand New Part for each survivor but who exactly is using something? but tbh since the rework of Brand New Part real gen rushing is kinda dead and people search for excuses for dont build up pressure like trying to chase a strong looper the entire trial instead of picking the weak links off asap.

@@Taubenmett i find gen-rushing to be 10 seconds into the match, you chase a survivor off a gen and start chasing them, and when you down and hook them, 3 generators pop because you chased 1 person.

@@kmel3588 this isnt always true. some teams come in ready with things like prove thyself, and brand new parts or toolboxes with speed build to help rush gens. so even the best killers can struggle in this case.

TWO MINUTES????????

I mean it's a good perk but if you have teammates that are also cleansing totems, especially at the beginning of the match then it's wasted slot

but those 2 minutes may cost you the game. in solo queue there's no time to waste

@@brobot_8371 And not taking those 2 minutes may make you lose in the end-game to NOED. Gotta calculate the risk-reward. I mean, sometimes Dead Hard is useless because the killer has instadowns. Deliverance becomes pointless if you're the first hook or you can't get a save. Taking some time to clear all the totems isn't a bad investment if you haven't worked out what all 4 of the killer's perks are.

@@thelongstory6395 its a pretty low risk considering only 1 out of 10 killers have it

Just a small addition, in regard to Exhaustion Perks. You're absolutely right, they reward bad play and give you a second chance. But the one Exhaustion Perk that REWARDS good play is Smash Hit. You stun the killer you get a sprint burst. Survivors dislike the perk because the reward is not as easy to get in comparison to the other perks.

BUBBA IS THE HOTTEST CHARACTER IN DBD. Wait that's what this is about right?

@@rexx3835 I agree bubba is hot.

Nah, imagine playing destiny 2 and you have a perk that just lets bullets hit you as if you have no shield. So everyone has half health when you use this perk. Which is the height of shit game design, and rewards bad play. Complaints about the fact that most of the community feel like noed or being exposed in general is dumb af is silly, if everyone feels a certain way there's got to be a truth there, no?

The game isn't over until all the survivors escape though. I have had games snowball from 0 to 4k after the exit gates are powered, and that was without running noed. Survivors can get cocky after the exit gates are powered and it can cost them the game.

I've got multiple 3/4k from noed from literally no hooks previously. It's a REALLY good perk, but as a majority survivor player, I just accept Noed as a used perk for killers.

@@LordLagsalot I think part of noeds power is survivors just dont wanna play it they give up immediately and just accept that theyre probably dead

@@JaxReds Right, it's not an immediate game over. I have run NOED a few times and got zero kills because I am not great at chasing people. What kills survivors most of the time is that they refuse to just leave when the exit gate is open. They have to go for that last minite rescue no matter what or they have to get in a few extra loops on the killer. If I see NOED pop as a survivor I will leave as fast as I can.

@@Handofcrom13 well to be fair and you admit it most of that comes from chase skill Once you get the ability to chase an survivor you see and if the know you have noed most just give up idk what rank you are to be fair tho

Which is why it is a bad perk because you are wasting a perk slot on something which won’t do anything for 3/4 of the game I think the main reason survivors hate it is because it is as if the killer is getting rewarded for playing badly

Or when they bring up their fun when they die earlier. “How am i supposed to have fun? You’re not very fun, killer!” Imagine bitching to the other side in an asymmetrical game, instead of telling the developers it should be more fun in certain ways. God forbid you ask them as killer how they’ll make it fun for you in return.

''just patrol gens bro''

“doing gens you?”

its hard to pressure gens when they do gens in your face despite you attacking them

What is gen rushing?

@@Zechswind Doing 5 gens so fast.

@@Zechswind When survivors are constantly finishing gens normally with prove thyself tool boxes and that sort of thing

So what you saying is for me not to do gens efficiently. I need to walk around and annoy the killer with my flashlight 🔦 making clickee clickee noises, maybe jump in and out lockers, or just let crows appear on my head. There is no such thing as gen rushing. Gen rushing is something that entitle killers would say and there is plenty of them here. !⑈ˆ~ˆ!⑈

@@Zechswind I'm not just saying that I'm just saying don't be complaining about Noed or the killer tunneling you or slugging when y'all are popping gens like crazy survivor mains make me disgusted to be one

@@huh7111 and?

I mean it is op though, but survivors just have a few more of those

@@Emerald1 not really if you’re good a looping and you have exhuasted perks

@@Emerald1 It's not OP. OP would mean it's not counterable, or hard to counter. It's insanely counterable, to the point that it can't be activated at all. Smh. I personally don't run it, because I'd rather use BETTER perks. I prefer perks I can use during the match, not at the end.

@@Emerald1 bro if noed is op what's ur opinion on exhaustion perks

@@soulreaper7297 I guess they're op, but I dont like comparing survivor and killer perks

Yo, love that profile pic.

@@gadgaurd3139 thanks!

Somebody's died to noed a few too many times

Jacob Gaskin Nice Ad Hominem. You have contributed nothing to the conversation and you haven't weakened any of my arguments with that personal attack. Worthless comment.

Then there’s no suspense 😔

Preach

Yea they both are the same

@@xboxgamerz22 like I run neither, but oh there is a survivor I could of downed and hooked, but nope....gens popped and I have to hit them twice again. Nothing I did, just they had a perk. At least NOED can be prevented

@@gnarlyburrito5123 I can see how they're similar. I kind of see it as no matter what the killer is going to make it to endgame so they'll always get NOED unless totems are cleansed. A survivor has to actually survive till endgame to get Adrenaline, which is typically less likely. Unless of course 4 man swf, but that isn't an every game thing

@@mashmello9368 Both are fair though is all. As well everyone can run Adrenaline the survivor side which is so dumb

Adrenaline rewards the survivors for doing gens, while noed rewards the killer for failing. Perks like these should reward the side for playing well and its an assymetrical game so it has be balanced not fair. Just my opinion, i am a survivor main but i have played many killer games and not use noed

Yea gen rush is important but if they don't do totems which it happens all the time then it the survivors fault not killer.

You're friends are stupid if they give you greif for doing totems lol

Exactly what I was thinking: because then I can't have my Unbreakable Decisive Strike Borrowed Sprint Burst build!

@@taleladar because only survivors can bring whatever they want but not the killer!

Ehh it's a waste of a perk slot like not every killer runs noed or hexes in general not saying you shouldn't get totems for the extra bloodpoints but as solo survivor you gotta be wary of what you do since you can t rely on teammates. But Im killer main so it doesn't matter swfs can run all they metas cuz it more fun using perks that do reward me for fucking up. I do think that they need to rework the game so that when killer or survivor makes a mistake they Don t need to use these crutch perks.

Maybe one? More like maybe 2...

@@MetalBalu01 what rank are you?

Right now 5 because of rank reset, but I'm usually rank 1.

@@MetalBalu01 huh, surprising that you have that opinion at that rank Nothing wrong with it, just interesting

It can give you several kills.

Well if doing totems was more rewarding you'd certainly see survivors doing it more.

no talent

except noed can save a bad killer’s game

@@wickrman1 just like ds, dead hard, adrenaline, … boons. Perspective matters. If all you want to see is how each perk is a crutch, then that’s all you’ll see. I find as killer - 4 injured survs going to full health and sprinting away, more disheartening than noed popping as surv, as it rarely downs more than 1, if anyone at all. But maybe I’m numb to noed after 5 years of it Edit for clarity: if people knew how noed used to work, they’d surely feel less frustrated with how it is now. Used to just ‘activate’ when the last gen was done, infinitely at first then down to 2 minutes, then became possible to prevent altogether with totems. W/totems, survivors control whether noed procs or not. It’s as simple as.

@@iTz_ParZ however noed reward playing badly, while the same can be maybe be said about DS, a killer can literally go a whole game with 0 hooks and win with noed.

@@iTz_ParZ im bored of noed after 5 years now and i think it should get reworked

@@wickrman1It only gets dusted off for me when I roll it on random perk wheels but I wouldn’t mind a rework, depending on how far they go. They have a strong reputation of having things at one end, and their “fix” just moves X allll the way to the other end. If that makes sense. All I’m saying is noed, at LEAST 80% of the time (it should really be 95%+), can be prevented, IF it gets focused on as much as gen popping or looping. And you cannot prevent DS when it’s active, nor the others. I just can’t see after all this time how it’s still viewed as “the big baddy” when there are now more ways to deal with them than ever before.

wait, can you only use inner strength once like DS? Or could you theoretically heal 5 times in one match?

@@OMGnancyWTF you can use it for every totem you cleanse, and good point about this also being a good counter to NOED!

@@spooknjukes9886 One of my friends run it A LOT lol

My favorite perk to use!!!

the problem i have with NOED is that it teaches new killers bad habits becuase its an easy to get perk as part of the general perk pool and they become reliant on NOED and are less conscious of mistakes they make throughout the match becuase they feel like they have that end game safety net. This reliance on NOED hurts them as they play more and go up ranks.

@@kmel3588 completely agree with that.

@@kmel3588 Yeah, but even when getting to high ranks with Noed, they notice that Noed is not a good perk, because even with it they are going to be trials when they can only have 1k thanks to it and depip for playing badly and Noed relying

@@kmel3588 okay well, that’s the problem of the killer? How is it your problem?

@@kmel3588 can be true, but I feel like most people go away from it after some time. I remember I used it a lot when I first played but now I have maybe used the perk a handful of times in the last few years. You could say certain survivor perks could potentially teach people bad behavior too

If you dont tunnel DS should be a nonexistent perk to you. I dont tunnel on killer and i get DSd once every 5 games

@@s0n5r that think is 1 min long, it happened a few times to hook the saver then run after the unhooked person and get DSd

I wont disagree since you just started. However my argument as a 3 year player is that NOED takes less skill and just isn't that fun to run. Getting rewarded for losing just doesn't appeal to me personally however you learn over time to just get better and eventually you don't even need noed to win.

@@s0n5r before the nerf, you could use DS after the killer has already hooked another survivor

@@user-nn1fx1nc7e is not a reward for losing, it's a second chance perk. I rarely use NOED unless i see a clear sfw/toolboxes in the lobby

But ds rewards you for being downed. Do you think being downed is a sign of a good player?

@@Simon-uk3po ds is an anti tunneling perk. You think tunneling makes you a good player? And what, bhvr nerfing it into the ground wasn't good enough for you?

Noed is a skillless perk that damages the killer learning curve- it’s boring and has too high impact. Dead hard,ds,bt are the exact same- they all need nerfs

You should not be mad if a bad killer use noed if gen rush happen and they got no kill like I would give a kill because I feel bad for the killer.

@@xboxgamerz22 I mean I’m not gonna feel bad if the someone is bad at the game. Get good. And that goes for both sides, if I’m playing killer or playing survivor. If the survivors are bad I’m not gonna let them live cause they are bad, I don’t give out handouts unless the person deserves it.

Gen rushing isn’t a thing

@@witchysav7181 It can be a thing if everyone brings toolboxes and a brand new part but besides that it really isn’t. People love to call everything Gen rushing, but the main objective is to get the gens done and leave.

@@zzman_2175 And prove thyself also aides in getting gens done fast

You don’t have to struggle to benefit from exhaustion perks either

@@spooknjukes9886 In my opinion exhaustion perks at least require a certain degree of skill. Most of them can be absolutly wasted. Sprint burst only helps if you know in which direction to go for the next safe pallet, dead hard has to be timed. Sure, you can debate how much skill you need. But in the end, noed doesnt require any skill except for pressing m1. Even the worst player can profit from it, while bad survivor players will prolong the chase with exhaustion perks for maybe 5-10 seconds at most? I dont want to claim noed is op, toxic, should be nerfed or whatever. But thats at least my understanding about it.

@@spooknjukes9886 you have a point, and also seeing that fully charged purple medkit at 3:10 vanish is painful

@@roirraWremaG and I’m sure it was painful for that hag to have the survivor wiggle off because of it lol

Who are you crying?

@@Simple_Grey_line im trying to pretend to be a entilted surv main

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Ohhhhh

also these perks you can use once per minute are totally comperable to something that activates and stays activated constantly.

those perks don't just counter noed but they counter all hex perks

@@cadenterry8809 the other Hex’s aren’t worth the perk slot to counter them. Inconvenient, sure, but Noed is by far the most powerful hex perk. Maybe Devour Hope is worth breaking, but at least it spawns at the beginning of the trial and there’s an extreme likelihood you’ll break it before exposed kicks in without the need to use any totem perks. Noed doesn’t spawn until the gates are powered. You will waste considerable time hunting and cleansing 5 totems for a killer who might not even be running Noed. Noed(without requiring any effort from the killer) can destroy a team of survivors who played immaculately the entire game and grant an easy 1-4K for a killer who quite frankly just sucks at the game. Comparing something like Noed(a perk that permanently activated for losing) to perks like deliverance, ds, bt, etc(which again are all EXTREMELY situational perks) is beyond delusional. Killers get mad at perks like DS and BT because it denies their aggressive tunneling so they can’t get their thirsty 1k game because they literally just suck. Too many times I’ll be playing as survivor(I’m rank 1 solo survivor) and the killer just completely ignores me after a 30 second chase because they realize they will never catch me and go after the worst survivor in the game relentlessly. This is exactly why I run a flashlight and BT to help unfortunate survivors getting tunneled. Since de-ranking is no longer a thing since earlier this month, I pretend to “suck” to get killers coming after me so the silvers and golds can escape. That being said, I’ve played COUNTLESS killers who are just quite frankly Gods in chases. There’s a reason most high rank and objectively good killers don’t run these exposed perks. They simply aren’t necessary.

@@herbaljellyfish9842 if you are just going straight for totems then that will waste a lot of time as they are spread out but just making mental notes of where they are and doing them if you end up over there or calling them out to teammates if you are in a swf will save a lot of time, noed may be the most powerful but paring something like ruin or devour with undying will make things a big problem, as if the killer can pressure gens a bit they aren't going to get done or if it is devour and undying the killer will most likely get 3 tokens if not get enough to mori someone. I wouldn't say noed is in a great state at the moment but I wouldn't go to say it is broken/ unfair. how effective noed is still is impacted by how the killer plays and survivors as in most situations you will have a decent bit of time to try and find it if it is in play when someone is on hook. not bothering chasing someone isn't always a bad idea as you know you aren't at their level so just going after the rest of the team so later on you may be able to catch them if they slip up and make a mistake (this is what I have done before when I noticed one of the people were really good I didn't chase them a lot and more chased the rest of the team)

@@cadenterry8809 I don’t play swf. I stated I play solo. I will go ahead and say that I absolutely agree that comms break this game heavily for killers. The amount of valuable information that can be verbalized is astounding and can eliminate the need for perks. However, solo is played drastically different than swf. Yeah it’s ok to abandon a chase if it takes too long, I completely agree. That wasn’t my point, however. I’m referring to killers who get their rocks off from one kill a game because that’s literally all they can do, hence they use perks like noed or strategies like tunneling. It’s not my fault that crappy survivors threw almost every pallet on the map by end game and now myself or other good survivors in the match only have vaults and mind gaming in order to escape the killer. However, that scenario depends on many things including the map, where the exit gates are, where you and the killer are and sometimes no matter how good you are, there’s literally nothing you can do at that point. No perk should override a players’ skill and that’s precisely what noed and noed alone does. Imagine if survivors had a perk that when a survivor is on death hook that they get an additional 2 free hits before going down requiring the killer to hit them 4 times to down them. This would be the survivor equivalent to noed. If they want to fix noed, it need only apply to the first survivor hit. In that instance the killer would get a second chance and survivors would be considerably more willing to try and save the poor soul that got screwed over by it, which I think would be fine. I addressed perks like Devour. At least 8/10 times it gets cleansed before it activates. This is not the case for something like noed. I think undying and devour are fine. Ruin has little effect on the outcome of the game. But since we’re talking about it, hex’s like ruin and devour require at least some skill from the killer to even be useful, noed does not. I would be more willing for other hex’s to have two totems needing to be cleansed and just take noed completely out of the game. It is an extremely broken perk that offers more power for absolutely no effort from the killer. For something like ruin to be effective, the killer must apply gen pressure. Simple, sure, but it requires SOMETHING. There is nothing anyone could possibly say to make me think noed is even remotely reasonable to be a part of the game. I’d rather deal with a nurse with devour than a crappy trapper who uses noed to get a thirst 1k. It’s just completely unfair. There should either be a survivor debuff for swf or a killer buff to address the absolute brokenness of comms. Also, better matchmaking would help the games health tremendously. There are many unbalanced aspects of the game that negatively affect both killers and survivors and I can absolutely admit that. However, noed is simply just an incredibly broken perk and often defended by bad killers who can only get a few kills per game and namely when noed activates for them.

When don't you left click then downed? You've effectively lost a health state, so great, now everyone is basically injured until a totem is destroyed...and? Just loop them until the totem is gone. Any other perk would've helped them more than NOED without any skill. They could've won much earlier with some meta perks. It's fun because it creates panic, my whole team scrambling as someone desperately tries to buy time. Your same argument could be applied to every single second chance perk.

Against casuals it's kinda unfair but against swf who teabags the gate then gets surprised by bloodwarden its balanced lmao

honestly tell survivors after the last gen that noed is there it changes the shock and honestly makes it fair to me the only thing i dont like about is the poor fuck that has to find out its really not hard to get rid of

@@JaxReds true, it's not hard but it just depends on if your teammates would consider a NoEd when facing a killer, they mostly either 99 a door or best case game is when a killer camps hook atleast you would know he doesn't have NoED.

@@DragonSora yea it’s not rly a problem ah high level play but also high level also really doesn’t see noed as much and they just naturally play around it anyway I feel that not hiding noed makes it less of an early crutch

@@JaxReds true, so in short play around it instead of just saying its a toxic perk.

@@DragonSora yea And now that I’ve had time to think abt it all the counter perks are dlc so I understand non dlc players saying if they have nothing to counter it

and thats the problem with the perk while ruin - undying was op you needed positioning to keep your totems alive and get people off gens but Noed rewards you for losing the game

i honestly love when people who do that get what they deserve lol, i feel bad you got stuck with crummy teammates though but i hope you still got the escape

@@plague682 I almost got out. Door was 80%. I wasn't annoyed with the killer tho, I was annoyed at my team-mates being cocky idiots.

@@rabbadidi7385 aw damn, i hope things got better from there and maybe those guys stopped being so cocky in future matches

@@plague682 I hope so too. I love dbd but the toxic side of the community makes it hard sometimes

Ofc dude thats fine but a survivior shouldnt cry if they then get the noed hot dickings treatment

@@twohat3569 true

@@joracle_1072 No such thing as tunneling. Its killers doing their objective

@@joracle_1072 K

basically Devour Hope

4 or 8 hooks, sometimes with really strong teams you can t even reach 3 hooks, you can say the same about dead hard, why not 3 hits taken to activate dead hard? Something that kind

Ngl that’s cringe asf

some games it works ok, some games its never even used, some games you can go from 0k to 4k. It all depends on the survivor's play

Survivor second perks can get countered pretty easily. I do agree that noed ain’t that good tho. But what second chance survivor perk are u thinking about cus they really ain’t that hard to counter

@@jdkdkkdkdkf4130 yeah I agree but some situations like when I was unhooked and had ds I literally crawled to the exit gate and oni couldn’t do shit about it 😭😭 he tried to pick me up at last but I still had my perks

@@austinj7860 noed is like a 3 gen it can do nothing or could single handily save you

@@jdkdkkdkdkf4130 cant counter unbreakable combined with decisive

Same

@@spooknjukes9886 hell yeah, hope you're day's going well 😃

@@spooknjukes9886 another problem with noed is that it ruins the learning curve on killer as they rely on it

@@willwhittakerr maybe people don’t want to learn and they just want to play for fun :)

@@spooknjukes9886 I think discouraging a healthy learning curve is never a good idea- also the game becomes infinitely more fun the better you get

Then Urban and Sprint burst will be dominant, like...This game is super hard to balance because of how it's set up at this point.

That would be blood warden, you dont get to bm when someone has noed

Noed is good for everyone except one hit down killer

@@xboxgamerz22 that’s the joke

Also are you even a true Bubba if you don't also insidious camp the basement hooked survivors?

I've also seen NOED be active and all 4 Survivors escape. Actually had this happen against a GF on Temple this morning which is the most recent time that this has happened. The the next match had NOED but everybody died before the 5th gen was active so he got no use from it anyway. The way I see it, don't complain about Noed and you will enjoy life more.