Dude....not sure if anyone already commented and told you this, but the reason your Decimator is suppressing the noise in your rig way faster than the NS2 is because you don't have the NS2's decay time set to match that of the Decimator's 🙈. The decimator doesn't have a decay knob....instead the decay is defaulted to "minimum". You have the NS2's set to "maximum". If you want it to gate as quickly as your Decimator, crank the "threshold" knob all the way to the right (which you already have) and crank the "envelope" knob all the way to the left (which you have not). With that said I think it's fair to mention this is a very misleading review and for those of you watching this video and lucky enough to catch my comment, take it from someone who knows how to use both pedals....they're both great but if you need more than just a lightning quick noise gate then the NS2 is way more versatile.
this video is the best example of a guitar player who is not able to understand anything of guitar and fx basics and that's why he keeps telling "oh the boss cuts your sound and sustain... the ISP is waaay better"... you know what? you simply can't handle the NS2 because you don't understand how it works... oh I am wrong? no I ain't wrong because all you said about it was just bullshit... if you have the correct setting (every piece of a mm is important with this knobs) it works as a charm
jedivolt agreed, however its generally accepted that the Decimator is the best on the market, nothing gets past that thing lol. I have the Boss and yes, works great!!
Yeah bro, I usually get this "Decimator has so much sustain" and maybe they have a point, but I do not like the fact it doesn't include send/return. Perhaps BOSS NS2 vs. TC SENTRY would be a better comparison? I've never touched a sentry though
Hi man! Im using a NS-2 and i don't know if you tried to MAX the threshold and MIN the decay, it will cut the noise much faster then it does with both on MAX :) I am though interested in the Decimator since it seems like you can set it up much tighter then the NS-2.
Does the isp suck a little tone like the boss does? I have the cheap behringer and it is modeled after the boss I'm pretty sure and it sucks a bit of tone. But other than that it works good.
I found a lot of Boss NS2s go for about 45-60 bucks on reverb. Some even for 60 bucks even with free shipping. Insane, but I noticed... Lots of people are selling them... I am going to guess they probably bought a ISP Decimator...
I have never used a noise suppressor live or otherwise. I like to play with dynamics and play some things softer and others louder based on how I pick the strings.
This is a great video. Shame more people haven't watched it yet. I could have done with this before I dropped for the NS-2. Looks like I'll be saving for the Decimator too.
you're using the ns-2 wrong. you need to turn the decay to min to activate the suppression quicker. not the other way around. then you can turn the threshold down a bit.
+Christopher Martlin you are right, that's why when Eric used his NS-2 the sound in this video seems to be sucked ... the decay should stay at zero level ... :)
Have you used the Boss NS-2 where you run some effects into Input, the used Send into Input of amp, amp effect loop Send into Return of Boss NS-2 then out with delay and reverb that goes into the return. First try the Boss NS-2 guitar into Input, send into Input of amp, send effect loop of amp into return and out into the return of the effect loops.
Yeah it don't matter what you're running if you like a lot of gain ,,, you're going to be getting some noise ... Yup ,,, definitely going to get one of these gizmos ... yeah ,, yeah I'm a sound guy and everybody's like single coil Strat and you know how those things like that make noise ... yeah most of the time it's just the standard rig guitar ,, amp a cord ,,, so I'll put it on the effects Loop of my own equipment ... got a few Johnny guitarz ,,, I work with ,,, got the huge paddle board ... I'm not hating but they just can't seem to get that thing together ,,, love your work ... thanks ... D
Yeah that's the second peddle ... I've seen that sweet ass Chrome ,,, but I'll probably go with you the boss just so I can figure out the switches ... D
I'm wondering if the NS2 would clean up the noisy repeats when I use delay with high gain? I have the Decimator II, and it doesn't seem to help that at all.
Thanks for posting this Eric... I'd like to see the aholes with negative comments about you on this vid provide a recorded, meaningful compairson of their own like you have, instead of slingin' their f'ed up mental crap on the net.
@@EricShreds using this method, how would I connect my modulation and time effects? If I wanted all my noise through the gate going in front of the amp, the does modulation and time go amp effects send to 1st modulation to last , then from the last modulation to amp return?
I dont play metal with my band but my setup its quite for metal, and playing live with a solid state amp never needed the noise suppressor but for only one of my guitars. Anyway, its a usefull pedal for guitars with noisy pick ups or noisy amps.
Try turning the decay back, the pedal wil work waay better then, because it cuts the noise out faster, and not böends them out slowly.. I think the Boss is perfect for metal and stuff lik this :)
Hy man ! What is the efect from just right the begining of your video on your guitar , clean or what ? Cos I like it and thats the exacly effect who I need for befining song 'Boot camp' from Soundgarden ! Thanks !
Having experience with both pedals, the ISP kicks the Boss's ass! Period. And I love certain Boss pedals. I think I know why you say "Something about this pedal just.. is perfect for me." Unlike the Boss, it squashes the initial sound you want. So while you are playing, it's already being used. The ISP lets you dial it in to EXACTLY after your done playing, and the tone you have while playing is totally unaffected. You may pay out the ass for the Decimator G-String which is what I own, but you pay for for quality sometimes.
This is the normal decimator though. Not the G string. The G string may possibly be better than the NS2, but normal decimator/decimatorII... I doubt it. The fact it doesn't have a "loop send/return" already makes it inferior in features.
Had to pause this vid, to figure out where/when that barking dog was ... ... Thanks you for setting up the NS-2 properly - most demo videos don't do that ... ...
Eric have you ever played on a ibanez 150h head? I'd love for you to give a review on it since one it's not expensive for what it is and two I think it is so underrated and would love for you to bring light to it since you've played other high gain amps. it's only 200$ used probably less with the way you get stuff but I'd love to see a video! :)
The ISP is garbage for cleans and medium gain. The only thing it decimates is your dynamics. Overpriced junk. This video isn't even a proper comparison. The Boss NF-1 Noise Gate compares with the Decimator. The NS-2 Noise Suppressor compares with the G-string.
You do realize for like $10 bucks you could have installed a dummy coil and gotten these same results on any setup anywhere without the need for looping any signal.
Wow, he doesn't know how to setup the Boss pedal. I play with mine with thresh at 4 o'clock and decay to the minimum and I can get sustain even into feedback easily. All I have is a Crate XT120R with a Danelectro Fab OD pedal on the crunch channel for a good rhythm tone.
this is the second noise pedal youtube I have seen which has an absolutely dreadful background of metal type dross. I would giggle at the irony but it is way too irritating to be funny.
Good tone, like good music, is subjective. This guy likes what sounds good to him and is trying to share that. If it doesn't sound good to you, simply don't follow his advice. I knew as soon as I saw the Metal Zone pedal that his tone wouldn't be great but it's still nice to see videos comparing different pedals under different circumstances.
