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Never understood why everyone says the scene broke them, that it was sad etc. For me it was comforting because through this dialogue we can understand that they will stay together despite the barrier that await them. For once they managed to communicate and the dialogue makes me feel like they are finally at peace with themselves means they’ll be in peace in their relationship too. :)
I think it’s happy, it shows real love. That Marianne is willing to let Connell pursue his passion, possibly give up their relationship, so, he can pursue something bigger. It’s quite sweet and genuine.
@@jr370113 i totally agree, sometimes love means letting go, and it shows she trusts him(and their relation) enough to let him go knowing he’ll probably (if u ask me i’d say surely) get back to her
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The most beautiful thing about this scene isn't just about the amazing performance of both actors. It's specifically about the Marianne character and how she's developed. She used to want to do ANYTHING to please Cornell, but now she chose herself, she put herself before the man she loves. Idk about u but this is a FANTASTIC SHOW.
Bingo! It's about her gaining independence and I believe she loves Connell so much that she wishes he will gain his independence and develop his identity too. A sign of true love for someone isn't about always wanting them by your side or trying to control eachother. It's about contributing to eachother's growth and supporting them unconditionally in their own journey. Once you gain that confidence and independence in yourself, you're able to be supportive and loving without bitterness or possessiveness.
Also, when it comes to her character development if you pay close attention you’ll see every time Connell told her he loved her she never said it back. It wasn’t until towards the end of the last episode that she tells him I love you too. Meaning she was finally secure enough in herself to say it.
It's a perfect ending. The audience (or a part of the audience) are simply stupid and their lack of understanding of the story and the character arcs both of them go through are clear if they would expect a "happily ever after" ending.
I think it’s a happy moment, it shows how strong their love is. Even if they break up, it’s because their putting their dreams and passions ahead of their relationship. Marianne especially, she’s willing to give up Connell because she knows he can pursue something bigger and something he’s been wanting for so long. She understands that they love each other but they need to do this to be better.
i'm proud of Marianne. She saw the big picture. I felt like she understood, through their time together, that they both had grown as people and wants them to continue to grow and find themselves as individuals even more than she wants to be with Connell. I think thats why she encouraged Connell to leave even though she intended to stay. Out of love. Love for herself and for Connell. I found it very selfless and moving. And I'm proud of Connell. In the face of what may seem like denial from Marianne, he decided it was for the best as well. I don't think he found that love for himself that Marianne was starting to find for herself and I don't think it all makes as much sense to him. I think he's simply choosing to trust her. I found that to be very brave. In my head I like to think that he really finds himself in New York and becomes successful. And that he then understands why Marianne encouraged him to go.
completely agree, also, Marianne had struggled with voicing her own wants in the past, this scene is so crucial because we get to see her making a decision based on her need, her wanting to stay. in the book, it writes: he brought her goodness like a gift and now it belongs to her. ...they’ve done a lot of good for each other. Marianne understands now. Thus, I find this scene sums up their story for now in a very graceful wholesome manner, well-executed!
@@jennyh5645Very well said. It’s true Connell brought her such a goodness. I have a peace that when he comes back from New York they will find a way back to each other.
The final "we'll be okay" is brilliant really, because on the one hand you can read it as in reference to them as couple and thinking they can make it through it, but on the other hand it could just as easily be read as "we'll each of us will end up ok going our separate ways" and its kind of crushing.
After all the "silent" break ups where they didn't talk about how they felt and just kept seeing how they distanced, finally they grow up and evolve to speak, communicate and show their love in an open way. Fascitating ❤
I found this so comforting. You know how in the whole series they never had a proper ending to anything. They just left, this is their "We'll move on, and i love you, and i will keep on loving you" they said it. They are free.
His anxiety and his thought process in his university days was exactly how I felt during my university days... it was so similar, I could not look at the screen at times cause it was pulling me back to that loneliness and anxiety... atleast those moments. To me this series was the most beautiful one, yet scariest show I watched... the crippling anxiety was resonating too much... I guess I never addressed it, just buried myself in the pace of life.
I mean I know that I am surrounded by people its just that I always have this felling to submerge myself in this imaginary place where I am some genius one in a million guy. This might sound weird but this is occupying my mind a lot of the time. By the way, thanks for taking the time to reply to me.
Because it was no BS real normal everyday people exhibiting real normal everyday strong, ever changing and manipulated and sometimes gaslit emotions. It was too humans meeting as teens and growing as humans together and apart. And all the anxiety that. Adulting brings with it…. That’s hard to watch. It’s hard to watch because it doesn’t allow us to be comforted by falling into some fantasy vortex like Twilight or something. We don’t have to imagine we literally KNOW the feelings.
i realistically think they will get back together, but better and healthier. "its never like thsi with other people". they spent a hole series tryinna stay way from each other. they both have always felt misunderstood by others, except for each other. "we'll be ok". they will be ok :)
I kinda see it as them recognizing that they will be ok without each other. They have both absorbed a bit of the other person, becoming better versions of themselves. Like Marianne said, "but we have done, so much good for one another." They'll be ok either way, together or not. That's what makes this story so beautiful to me.
The last few lines breakkkk me. Especially the whisper of "You know I love you". That line hits perfectly with past of the song. The song, that trickles in, is absolutely brilliant. It adds so amazingly to the scene. This scene rips my heart out. Fucking so amazing
Saaaaame! When she said: "We've done so much good for each other" the entire season and every moment they spend together flashed right before my eyes and I swelled up with emotions and almost died. They've been through so much and to see how much they've grown over the years is so beautiful. This must be the most beautiful show I've ever seen. Can't get over it.
I love my wife as much as these two love each other. 18 years together, 10 years married and we've never been apart. She's my best friend, the only person I can talk to and she's amazing.
this shows flows like a memory that you can’t forget. that is stuck in your head. it’s so intimate that while watching it you feel like an intruder. the visual details, the vivid dialogue, the beautiful, nuanced acting. it’s crazy how intense it can be. the world of two complex and therefore completely normal people colliding. it left me amazed and at the same terrified of what we can cause to one another, as humans. the marks we leave on people and the marks they leave on us. i watched this weekend and i just know it will stay with me forever. intimacy is the last form of magic
Watched the entire thing in one night. Big mistake since I was holding back so many tears. But their last words in the show; “I’ll go.” “And I’ll stay. And we’ll be okay” I dont even wanna tell you how hard I cried
"there's been a lot of stuff that's been difficult, and painful. This will be difficult and Amazing"... this line gave me hope that they can make this work!
When Connell says, "you know I love you"...that was it for me. Totally just broke down. What an incredible performance by these two beautiful actors and such an incredible and honest series.
I think its not a sad scene. Its the most meaningful decision they made. They are finally free in their love for each other. So confident in it that they are willing to fly, grow more. And i think thats what true love is, when we really love someone we want to see the other person grow and that becomes more important than binding that person to you. Letting free knowing it in your heart that you are loved so much and that youll never feel the same connection with anyone else. Its so special and they are aware of it now. So that comforts me that wherever they go they will keep each other because they couldn't figure out the world without each other .
Plenty of people. I wouldnt put my life on hold for a year for someone when im thriving where i am. Plus he didnt discuss it with her prior to applying. The conversation might have gone differently if they had considered and decided it together before he even applied. Her whole character arc was for her to stop compromising herself constantly to please whoever shes with (which always made him uncomfortable) so deciding not to go is a good thing for her. Anyway, she said they’ll be ok so they might’ve kept at it long distance. We dont know.
@@paupau2587 no I got that. It was a huge step for both characters to make decisions that wasn't based on being dependent upon each other. But I was just thinking most people would go to new York in heartbeat. And especially while their young and in love and it was only for a year. However I understood the depth of the scene. And it shows major growth with both characters.
S.georgia. Especially,since her life in Ireland was pretty miserable,the only positive aspect there was Connell.(She had no problems with moving to Sweden for a year,and that without Connell.)Utterly unconvincing decision on her part.
@@paupau2587 she said "we'll be okay", and you can tell from that that they will still be together when he's in new york in a long distance relationship
The best series of 2020. Both actors deserve to win everything, the emotional journey of their characters did not have any other series. His chemistry is impressive.
I actually really regret that this show didnt show up 10 years ago. Lot of things would be different in my life, cause i would know that conversation is the most important thing in any kind of relationship.
the ending is so bittersweet. really shows the depths of character development between the two of them. marianne went from doing anything to satisfy him to choosing to live her own life. though going their seperate ways was a tear jerker for me, it is also so beautiful to watch. part of me loves to hope they found their way back to each other, but another part of me hopes they found love on their own and one day will be happy for each other’s success. i loved the book and i love the show. exceptional performance from both of them!!!
This scene is utterly exceptional. The dialogue, the pacing, the camerawork, the music, the palpable atmosphere of pure emotion all combine to produce just the perfect ending. Even though I know what’s coming it floors me each time I watch it. Such an emotionally nuanced and masterful way to conclude a beautiful story
What a beautiful love they had. One where they grew with each other and ended things in a mature and beautiful way. The most beautiful thing is that they will always have love for each other and will be cheering each other on wherever they may be. I love that most of all. God has such an amazing way of bringing people together. Many times it is for a season and few for a lifetime. I am so grateful to have met this show and to have read the book. They were both beautiful and moving.
I think this was the most beautiful show I have ever watched. It was real. It was painful. But it was special and unlike anything else. I knew I would like this from seeing stills, but I’m about to watch it again. This touched my heart the way Romeo and Juliet impacted theater. I just really, really love it.
They face so many hardships and obstacles and always find a way to be with one another again. We don’t get a happy-ever-after because we don’t need to be told. They now have the foundation built to endure what comes next, we spend an entire book living it with them. Their love is so deep that the author doesn’t need to tell us because it’s so much more powerful that we KNOW they’ll be together in the end.
This was a beautiful show. I went long distance with my partner of two years for a whole year and I would often feel incredibly alone without them. I would watch an episode of Normal People and it would remind me that it's sometimes ok to be this sad and that hardship is a vital part of what makes love strong. Both me and her were young and confused, trying to find our own ways just like Connel and Maryanne. But the beauty of this story is it highlights that life has both good and bad times, pain and happiness, and that quite often that happiness can be found on very small things. I can't praise the creators enough.
Accidentally spoiled the ending when I read a RU-vid comment saying “I’m glad it wasn’t a Hollywood ending” , & I was so ready to hate it b/c I hate how depressing real life is. But I was wrong, this ending was perfect in every way & I was truly touched by the amount of selflessness they both displayed.. b/c after all “if you love someone set them free” no?
"There are people who help you become the person you end up being, and you can be grateful for them even if they were never meant to stay in your life forever."
This series is amazing, after going through a rollercoaster of emotions from bliss, to confusion, to sadness, to this... bravo to everyone involved in this show! Also, the fact Marianne is the one who wants him to go to NY shows how selfless she is, and how loving she is. She'd be selfish if she is like "don't go to New York, don't leave me again!".
Just finished this wonderful show. Love this ending so much. It’s heartbreaking and beautiful I like to think them as characters found eachother again because they always did. They both proved to eachother that they would be there for eachother no matter what.
Though I think the ending for Normal People is not true to the characters. Marianne and Connell actually do end up together. The author wrote a short story called At The Clinic and Connell is back in Ireland and he broke up with a girlfriend, and Marianne broke up with her boyfriend and they’re back to having sex, but you can infer they’re getting back together. A year apart wouldn’t be enough to break them up. Just like Connell did with a previous girlfriend he would at least try to remain in communication. As for Marianne, there is nothing keeping her in Ireland, one friend and no family.
Those two. They are amazing actors. Both of them. That scene tears my heart out. So much love between then, so much respect to one another, such an understanding. Beautiful
Marianne said she'd be willing to do anything for Connell and in the end, that meant letting him go after teaching each other to become whole people that are ready to face the world on their own.
paul R There are different methods to make your eyes start to tear. There’s special eye drops and if you put Vaseline under your eyes, it makes them look like you’ve been crying.
@@emilyduer8484 sorry but its deeper than that. These actors are crying because they’ve adapted the psyche of the characters they’re portraying. They’re feeling real emotion here.
I remember season 1 episode 6, I stopped watching for a bit because it seemed like they were going to break them up when they put that "6weeks earlier thing" because I couldn't stand to see this ruined but I'm glad I continued watching, I'm so proud of them, they have grown, from not communicating about how they felt & misunderstanding each other to having such a conversation, From Marianne not believing Cornell when he said he loved her (obviously because she had never been loved & she couldn't believe someone could actually love her) to her saying I know when he told her how much he loved her. I'm grateful for the series and in a weird way it felt like therapy to me.
The ending is heartbreaking & jarring after first watching it but ultimately I feel this was the most fitting ending. I consider this one of the most realistic depictions of what it’s like to fall in love with someone & the highs & lows that come with it. Love isn’t always simple, sometimes it’s complicated & hurts. Fictional romances often sell this narrative that love conquers all when that isn’t always the case. The ending is fitting for that reason because more often than not love stories don’t always end in a happily ever afters.
Just finished reading it and definitely keen to watch the series. While I found the novel to be okay, it looks like the material is hugely improved when translated to the screen.
i felt the exact same way when i first finished the book, surprisingly though, it translates really well on screen i thought about why that was, i guess a lot of supposedly romantic novels i’ve read are often written in a more exaggerated tone in terms of the plot and dialogue...etc normal people struck me as a bit more plain initially, but i’ve read the books twice now and found the “plain” to be quite relatable/realistic actually, which is probably why the tv series was so well adapted and successful!
Después de 3 años pensé que normal people envejeceria mal, pero fue todo lo contrario. Llegó en un momento crucial de mi vida y quiza fue igual para much@s. Fue eso que nos hizo ver qué si bien el 2020 fue un año horrible para todo el mundo, aún pudimos ser felices con una serie que sin ganar ningún premio y reconocimientos jos marcó y la llevaremos en el corazón por el resto de nuestras vida
This is a happy ending. Connel and Marianne use love to heal each other. Without Connell's love and help, Marianne will fall into the abyss of sexual abuse and be unable to extricate herself. Similarly, without Marianne's love and encouragement, Connell would not be able to get out of his gloomy and depressed personality and grow up, otherwise he would live his life in obscurity! True love heals each other!
This is a beautiful ending in my book. I think the ones who find it quite sad still have to do the growing Connell and Marianne did. Then they'll realize it's actually quite freeing and sweet. I've been there before, not just in romance, love is everywhere around us.
For those of you who said that they found this comforting… this is utter rubbish. My great love and I went through the same thing years ago and we both thought we were doing the selfless thing. Instead we ended up with careers, but trying and unfulfilling personal lives. We lost touch till two months ago and seeing her again brought all of it back and how we wasted over twenty years of time… time that could have been spent together.
I have a cool insight if anyone is willing to read! Plus I literally have no one to talk to about this so I need to get this out lol. So from what I understand, depending from which eye you cry from there is a meaning behind it. The left eye represents pain and the right eye represents happiness. Connell begins to cry and only cry from his left eye. This tells us that it pains him to have to leave this relationship again, and that it also pains him for having to start a new life in New York without Marianne. For Marianne, she begins to cry with her right eye, and then tears from from the left eye starts to stream as well. This indicates that she's finally happy about herself and her life, but just like Connell, it also pains her to have let go of her first love. They only want the best for each other, and it’s displayed here in this scene. But this also doesn’t deny the fact that they both truly love and care for each other. Although this can just be me reading too much in between the line, I would like to believe in this interpretation. For myself, I do believe they do comeback to each other because it's been proven many times through out the show. But when they finally do meet again, they would have both matured into fine young adults and have a much happier/healthier relationship!
Not the ending I wanted, but it felt proper after everything they’ve been through as a couple and as individuals. It was nice seeing Connell break out of his comfort zone and take that step to peruse his dreams, although it was odd of Marianne to not want to go with him to New York since it was only for a year and her life in Ireland wasn’t really eventful either. That bit felt a bit off but still a bittersweet ending to an absolutely brilliant show.
I've been in love and I think I'm so lucky to have experience that kind of love. I think although they will not end up with each other but they will definitely not stop loving each other.
This scene always breaks me into pieces, it’s so raw. Especially not that long after a breakup! They are meant to be together but they have grown as people and putting themselves first
I saw a few episodes of this tv show and couldn’t finish it because I knew (from everyone’s reaction) that the ending was sad and… I’m glad I saved myself from this heartache LMAO
I cried at this, cause I was angry at him over all the lost time when had it but now when he try’s to have its one of those the right thing right perosn at the wrong time. He kinda did it to himself Ngl. But I won’t say I was sad that it was over, I will say the ending was sad but also happy ending cause for the first time ever they are on the same page
So have just finished reading the book version and of course I was FUMING at the ending. I mean completely out of love for Connell and Marianne yknow? Chapter after chapter things got even more twisted and complicated for them and I kept turning the pages hoping for a relief for them both. I kept reading on, hoping Rooney would hand us a nicely wrapped up ending, like a gift. So, out of my fit of desperation, anger, and heartache, I scoured the internet for the show’s version of the ending instead. I would say *this* has given me better closure than the book. Their dialogue and interaction was a lot more tender. Even when both endings were essentially the same ie Connell decides to move to America whereas Marianne stays in Dublin, the nuance is definetely there - which I think is so genius of the director. I do find the show’s ending a lot more tender and wholesome than the book’s and gives hope that they might rekindle their relationship. Even when some of the same lines from the book was used in the show, there seemed to be more assurance from both parties that conveyed that they were both mutually rooting wholeheartedly for each other’s success and happiness no matter where life takes eother of them and that if, their paths do cross and the stars do align, they will find each other again - yet at the same time, they were mature enough to not make promises. The scene where they were both sat on the bedroom floor also portrayed a moment of vulnerability and closeness for both characters to which they were finally able to have an open and honest conversation with each other about their feelings. This to me seemed to convey that both Connell and Marianne have finally understood the strength and extent of their love towards each other whereas in the past, they never openly expressed it which has led to a lot of miscommunication and doubt. This, alonsgide the characters’ gestures during the scene (Connelle crying into their interlocked hands) bears some flicker of hope that they could and WANT to make it through despite taking different paths in life. Whereas in the novel, Marianne sounded a lot more distant and cold. She was obviously shocked by the news and decided to spend the moment taking a jab at Connell and questioned whether he loved Sadie instead. This to me was such a monumental hint of the direction that both their relationship would take (at least in the novel’s version). I mean, we’ve practically reached the end of the novel and they’ve both gone through so much yet Marianne is still insecure about Connell’s love for her. And in the novel, while Connell repeatedly tries to convince Marianne that he isn’t, in fact, in love with Sadie whilst also trying to have a conversation with her about this whole moving to New York thing, Marianne busied herself with brushing her hair instead. I assume she was positioned facing away from Connell, as well, as this important final conversation was taking place. The phsyical distance the author has created when compared to the close proximity that Connell and Marianne shared in the show was the biggest difference. It has urged the couple’s story to end in a more brisk, abrupt, and distant manner when compared to how it ended in the show. In the novel, Connell’s last line was “just tell me to stay and i will; this felt like Connell’s desperate cry for Marianne’s affection, as if what he wanted was to confirm whehther Marianne felt strongly enough towards him to hold on to him. It did’t matter whether Marianne had told him to stay or if she had told him to take her with him, either answer would have indicated to Connell that Marianne wanted their relationship to continue despite the new hurdle. Instead, Marianne only repeats “you should go”. To me, if I were Connell, this sounds like an ultimatum. It sounded like Marianne was giving up without putting up a fight, regardless of whther her intentions were coming from a good place (ie whether she was saying that purely out of support for Connell’s career). So yes, I do love the show’s ending more. It’s a lot more satisfying and warm and reassuring whilst also capturing the essence of the novel. If what Rooney wanted to convey was the fragility of young (first) loves, the show seemed to leave the audience with a hope that perhaps young (first) loves truly are eternal, and that soulmates do exist no matter what shape / form they may come in (whether as friends or lovers). I mean, the book has repeatedly shown us that Connell and Marianne were made for each other. Whether it was in their tiny town during high school or even after moving to big city Dublin, no matter how many people they had both been with, they could both never quite entirely be their truest selves and feel completely as if they belonged if they weren’t with each other. So yes, I would like to believe in some distant decade, Connell and Marianne are back together 🥲😌.
For my own comfort, I REFUSED to accept this ending. Too painful and sad 😭😭 My perfect happy ending is when Connel say I love you in New Years Eve party and Marianne say I love you too back to Connel. THAT'S MY PERFECT happy ENDING GOD PLS! Same for the book too..
Please tell me there will be another season? I can’t stand these shows endings that draw us in and we never get to see these characters that become part of us and teach us so much and make us reflect on so much in our own lives. It brings me comfort.
I think I know why it’s been too hard. Ever sense going to college, having to go back to Sligo,there miss understanding when they broke up, her dating Jamie, what happed in Italy, what happed in Sweden, Robbs death, the depression, what her brother did, things haven’t been perfect for the both of them this year but at least they had each other and did so much good for one another.
This final scene let me strange feeling. In some way they talk as if it was the end of their story. But there's no reason for their story to end. They will continue to see each other and talk everyday by skype as they did when Marianne was in Sweden. And they will inevitably see each other again for real when Connell will return to Ireland or Marianne pay him a visit in New York (I can't imagine Connell spend one year in New York without coming back to see Marianne and his mother, or inviting them in New York, for Christmas and New Year holidays). And we know that each time they see each other, their feelings come back. Their love is strong enough to withstand the distance. But me, if I were Connell, I would have said to Marianne that nothing is more important for me than living with her. I wouldn't go to New York. The life is made of choices. Connell has the choice between going to New York or stay with Marianne. The fact that he doesn't choose Marianne is incomprehensible for me.
watched this show with a girl I was in love with and had a very similar goodbye with her a couple weeks later and I come back here from time to time just to make myself sick