Normandie D-day Memorial 2014 (Fury seen!) 

Thanks for pointing it out. I changed it. :)

I assume you mean Tigers and Panthers...Yeah the "easy eight" version of the Sherman is heads and shoulders above the first M4s. The US had a strange doctrine that tanks were designed to support infantry and to lead breakthroughs but NOT to fight other tanks; hence the short barreled 75mm gun. Tanks would be attacked by tank destroyers (the second tank in the parade was actually an M10 tank destroyer). TD's were faster than an M4 and had the 76mm anti tank gun, but were very poorly armored. The "easy 8" version of the Sherman had a long barreled 76mm gun that was probably 90% as good as the Panther's 75mm (especially when when firing HVAP ammo). They also had wet sleeve liners in the ammo racks so no more catastrophic fires when the ammo was hit. I was surprised that the frontal armor was almost as thick as a Tiger I. Of course the long barreled 75mm in the Panther and all versions of the 88mm could still penetrate it... Lastly it was FAST. It was much more mechanically reliable than the panzers. One on one the "cats" would win most of the time, but most of the time the panzers were outnumbered, and they had to fear the "jabos". Lastly half the panzers in a panzer division were PzIV's and not Panthers. The "cats" were superb tanks, but they like all tanks had flaws as well advantages. I think the allies played to their strengths better the the Heer played to theirs on the western front.

panther 2 was a proto and 75mm panther is "ineffective" still can pen......so you cant comparate it because in war there are huge numbers not few proto that can change the battle :)

Xxx Xxx I'm confused...what are you saying exactly (and I'm not being sarcastic). I'm having trouble figuring out your point...I thought my comment was readonably accurate. The "cats" were superior tanks one on one, but the allies figured out how to defeat them (numbers, airpower, and artillery).

good you are a brave talker

An M4E8 Sherman Tank. Did you see the WWII movie named 'Fury'? Its that one.

+WWII Channel I think he means that cart on tracks they were driving

+WWII Channel I Think he meant the little tracked troop buggy.

Its a weasel

the last one to roll is a British Bren Gun Carrier. It is basically a scout vehicle and a light personnel carrier. It could also tow 6lber. (57mm) anti tank guns...

tirpitzvsiowa M4A3E8 isnt a firefly, genius. Just becuase the gun looks like a 17 pounder doesnt mean it is. Its gun is a 76mm

fire fly?......

it's the easy 8

ahahhaahah.....but fury is not that power its just a 76W but it can die because there arent major mod on chassis :)

comic-sans too...

The Sherman, I mean.

The M4 was not a coffin relative other tanks of the war. Nor was it a bad tank. It was certainly not a scandal. Armor development from Summer of '1943 to Spring of '1944 as a whole, sure. But not the M4.