NORRIS vs VERSTAPPEN | LAP53-64 TEAM RADIO | 2024 Austrian Grand Prix 

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I'm sure Stroll had something to do with Max's slow pitstop

I could have sworn it was Ericssons fault.

Ericsson hits us so 5 seconds to Ocon😂

Thanks for the feedback. You're absolutely right. Next time, in such a case, the two drivers or their race engineer will be heard separately.

As a Max fan and being a neutral F1 fan, this incident (lap 63) was Max'fault and I agre for the penalty. But Lando did a couple mistakes also, divebombing is a master move, only a few drivers can do it perfectly

@@emiliolabrin8302 The way trun 3 and the DRS zone is set up just encourages these kinds of moves, you can just throw it on the inside, barely make the corner while completely blocking the racing line for the other car. It is a problem with this track and many similar incidents have shown that it is a rotten corner to overtake cleanly. If the corner was less sharp and with less negative camber you could have a clean overtake and proper defending of position.

Also, please can you put subtitles in as it can be difficult to understand exactly what they are saying?

​@@Scenario8Awesome

No literally

verstappen didnt overtake in that way like lando.

na u dombo Max divebomb the good way.

Max when someone uses his signature "You get out of my way or we crash" against him: 😮

@@oldfartgaming6273Austria 2019 ?

Peter's F1 knowledge is second to none. His points of view are always interesting, particularly on this race.

Biased Pete😂😂😂

Lando was getting frustrated because Max was moving under braking which is illegal. He also left the track and kept the position which is bs as well as

​@supermccnasty4176 lando was handed race ending penalties right after the race which could have been given in a timely manner to resolve this issue but sky sports makes more money with the drama.

@@brandonsmoot4056 Drama sells better indeed. People are already talking about this becoming the same as 21 season, so people are already grabbing their popcorn and pizza, expecting more drama to come, lol

His frustration was at max moving under braking, which you're not allowed to do. Hence his penalty

@@rc-fannl7364 That is when F1 is fun, when there is tension and rivalry. Max and Lando will be chomping at the bit at Silverstone. ha ha

Exactly. They all go crazy instead of using their brain just like Lando should've as well.

Thought it was the other way around. Before any dives by Lando in lap 55 it's the first time he is close, Max changes his line before the corner mid braking, leaving Lando flustered out of t3. He probably got frustrated after that and tried the aggressive dives, Max kept aggressively defending until it was too far and contact was made.

Not sure if you were watching the same race, but the rules are their for driver safety... Max has again shown his contempt and cheats, how can you break a rule and expect to get away with it. Think you need to watch it again, let me know if you want the rules explaining, happy to advise...

@@edwardgregory9289 There's no rule that says you have to brake parallel to the track layout. There was enough space on the left, no sudden movement from Verstappen, it was like in slow-mo but Norris failed to look at where he was driving to. Way more space than Vettel vs. Hamilton at the same spot in 2018... and also way more than in Spain the week before when Norris pushed Verstappen into the grass. But yeah, Max is evil. Think you need to watch it again, let me know if you want the rules explaining, happy to advise...

@@alexsiniosoglou2179 Lando DIvebombed in Sprint race, where Max just avoided it. In race Max already knew what will happen and just defends more aggresively

Tire wear....................... always a possible factor.

Not really it’s just on the 2nd pit stop max had used medium and lando brand new medium giving lando a edge on grip

He had a terrible pit stop the second time

Max had a comfortable lead till his 2nd pitstop. It should have been a easy win. But hey, that is part of F1.

The Mclaren been crazy fast when it is light weighted (low fuel), while RB has slightly faster pace when they are heavy at the start of the race, it has been like this for the last few races.

It's a rocketship

Smart ERS deployment, most likely

Turn 4.

@@LucasJohnston94 Turn 4 is the one after the third DRS zone

A person only gets blamed when their in the wrong, people that do not except responsibility for their actions are cowards.

@@edwardgregory9289 from what i saw and heard from max AND lando it was noone fault. Its racing this stuff happens man

That wasn't deliberate.

@@MartinRiggs1820 you are delusional

Max was struggling with the tyres it wasn't deliberate, trying to avoiding oncoming traffic

Ah yes lets return the favor like Lando did on Max last week 😂

Max with hes wheel off trying to avoid fast traffic on the left. And btw, Lando show us, thats he is unexpirienced with punctures. Max slowed down, but Lando goes full throttle for almost entire second sector -> Destroyed his tyre and half of the car with this

Hahaha I missed that, good catch 😅

i missed that numpty part..hahaha...

It's called cheating

exactly! hypocrites!!

Almost all teams and drivers are like this, especially championship-winning ones, but aight.🤷

Watch Peter Windsor his analyse.

And they are right. Lando couldn't pull off one single clean move. Faster car (+ 24km/h on the straight) and fresher tyres and still wasn't able to overtake fair and square. And now he's crying like a child after he was pushing Max into the grass in Spain last week (without getting punished of course). Twisting things up, ignoring facts just for the sake of hating someone is what's actually disgusting. Go back to Austria 2022 when Charles overtook Max. That's how it's done. No crash, no contact at all.

​@@till5520 to further back up your point, Vettel took the same racing line as Max did yesterday when overtaking Hamilton in the same turn in 2018 and Hamilton nearly had contact with him in the same way.

He was steering for sure, trying to maximize the exit for the next straight (as you do) He judged the space wrong by a few centimeters, and this is why there was contact, and why he got the penalty.

see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.

Peter Windsor said he looked at the onboard from Max and that Max was not drifting left. Alex Brundle said they were just 1-2 inches too close and that caused the contact. With these two being as frustrated as they BOTH were, and driving at such speeds and with sharp turns, that is a very, very small error to make by either driver. I think if Max had known that Lando had a 5 second penalty, he would not have fought him that hard in that corner. He would have let him go and ensure that he had DRS upon exiting the corner. Just a lot of little things going wrong to cause this collision.

He has every right to close the door there

He didnt steer left, as confirmed by Peter Windsor. Why nobody talking about Lando getting a 5 second penalty before the battle started?

dangerous in a bad way: Joffry Verstappen's do-or-die method is his 'wheel to wheel' racing ability - look at how he talks of those who challenge him afterwards: Lewis, Lando, Vettel, Ricciardo etc

@@Selendeki Yea, Example: Previous race when Lando squized Max off the track at the start. Max had every right to stand his ground and cause an accident. He went into the grass instead. Lando might have come in 1st or 2nd if he had done the same thing here.

Bad loser

This!

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the "divebombs" did not cause the crash. the moving under braking did

@@tomateman9581 losers whine, winners win

@@worldcitizen9202 thats why none of them won

@@tomateman9581 Max won ..... he extended his championship lead by 11 points this weekend

U know nothing about racing dude

​@@hamizonharris5992Except, max does have a history of divebombing while overtaking. He was the most dangerous driver on the grid for quite some time.

@@cy1764 and are we going to believe a random user like you who has never been to an F1 race before over a driver like Max or George who publicly said it was not max fault? Cmon tell us what they should do Armchair expert.

​@@cy1764dangerous?? Whats Indi 500... 😂😂😂 this is nothing

@@winterflakes101 ??? He's talking about a completely different thing, how Max has a history of divebombing (which is 100% true, even the biggest Verstappen fanboy wouldn't dare to say otherwise), he's not even talking about that particular incident.

They all complain of course. It's part of the sport, like diving in football. Verstappen bullies when challenged. He's getting bullied right back, and he doesn't like it. It's all fair, though.

Vestappen was whining the same as Norris did, so what's the difference?

Max always wines like a spoilt kid and swears all the time.

@@jonclayton9102 You're not a Max fan and that is ok.

@@DrDoohickey Yep. All drivers are human.

Seriously!!

tbh every champion driver was a kamikaze at some stage. Senna made a career out of it.

​@@ray.shoesmiththank you!

​@@jononioo2857 Lewis got a 3rd a few weeks ago you can put the t shirt 👕 back on for a day or 2 😂😂

george you can win this

i hope this is satire or that we watched a different race

@@ozzy9440 the max onboards prove he didnt steer left during the crash

There was a cars gap at first, and then there wasn't. Did the curb turn towards him then?

@@ozzy9440 watch the onboard.

Exactly!

Yeah Lando certainly gave him room in Barcelona, heh. 😅

Max 10 points Lando ZERO

Why is blaming everyone max then, if they were both driving like max

@@Samuel-em3nc the appearance of max moving in the breaking zone is probably why and the fia said Max was at fault lol

@@caidenseely2004 the FIA also gave lando a penalty for his failed divebombs, stop whining

​@@mostlikelyjum8533oh so when he's speaking the truth he's whining?

​@mostlikelyjum8533 no the fia gave lando a penalty for track limit violations.

They touched because max drove into him in the braking zone

​@@DropdudeJohn re watch the onboard

@@DropdudeJohn without parroting this narrative, just provide some concrete analysis because max stuck to the racing line and lando refused to use all of the track out of pure frustration. This exact thing happened to leclerc and max due to the angle on approach because of the natural racing line of this specific corner. Unlike Norris, Max drove the racing line and put two wheels on the kerb. Lewis did the exact same thing when he did the same with vettel. Lando refused to use the kerb as you typically would and squeezed himself into max cussing the collision. He simply doesn’t know how to hard race yet because he’s never been on that position yet. Not a biased opinion, just what happened that day. We accept and move on. Lando just needs to improve his race IQ

​@@WinX_io I know you like to think you are a better armchair analyst than the real people who do it as a job but they already proved he moved left under braking illegally. Also reply if you like, but I won't be reading it, I have an actual life so I don't come back after commenting.

​@@TimmsyTFG New to F1? Here's a pro tip: Sky F1 pundits are paid to dramatise the reality because that's how Formula 1 increases it's viewership. I suggest you look at their partnership with netflix and together how grown this sport. Next weekend watch how they constantly mention their relationship. Clever people I can't deny it. You are just feeding into it nicely. Watch someone like the legend himself peter windsor who explains it beautifully.

max too

That’s not the rule. It was merely a guideline that was removed and reworked. Now it’s a lot more general and dosent specify moving under breaking and depends on the stewards decision alone.

Your correct. But the rule has changed. You can’t always just look at the past.

@@user-qo2iw5nk2p the for moving under braking also changed - as a consequence of Joffry Verstappen's dangerous driving. Sometimes you have to use the past to ensure fairness and respect of sporting repute, otherwise it isn't a sport - its f1xed.

@@user-qo2iw5nk2p see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.

exactly

Correct, that's why he got the penalty for causing a collision. Tho lando did also force max off the track earlier, that should have been penalized. But i guess they forgot about all that after the crash.

see the Sky Sports 'who was at fault' video with Anthony Davidson - it answers the question of whether Max's multiple moves under braking was breaking the rules or not.

That’s fine, but it’s equally true that lando should have just moved over

Lando at fault simple as that

Lando's got 1 lucky win, dude. His dive bombing was the cause of this

skysports never are fair vs max, probable already know what they say before watching

I mean it's Sky🤷‍♂️

You mean that British channel ?

Just before 3:02.

So you want the FIA to not follow the rules only because you dont like Verstappen?

​@toetiefroetiesnoetie but wait, you don't want to please english part of f1 community what a shame. I suggest new rule every time when there is a crash with English driver we penalize non english driver and no more podiums for non english drivers

@@toetiefroetiesnoetie 10 seconds was for moving under breaking causing a collision,, after the collision max drove Norris off the the road on to the grass ,, therefore he will probably get a grid penalty… next race ,,, they are the rules

Lando was out of control IMO

It's still worth racing for the position as they could challenge the penalty

@@benc182 I think drivers always need to finish any race as strongly as possible.

Max fanboy detected, opinion rejected.

@@theepicracer1214hahaha right😂

Stop drinking, seriously

Alando should have bided his time 😂😂😂

Good ! the swindler Vestappen

This is racing, this can happen... of course it's Max's fault, but this has nothing to do with unfair behavior. I can recall many situations in F1's past where it was unsportive, this was racing where it wen unfortunately wrong. The outcome of this incident leaves the bas taste in the mouth, not the incident itself...

Get a live dude

It's always funny reading from people disliking a person after one tiny incident. If you do that consequently, you will stand alone for the rest of your life. Just a little thing to think about...

@@kamukameh However, this is not a one incident, Max has a long history of unfair racing and I have resently been admiring him for the amazing, matured, hard but fair racer I thought he had grown into - so disapointing.