like that time when a three-eyed dude blew a hole in the ground, or a green dude became a giant, or when that kid with a tail became a giant ape thing, or when that pale dude got his neck snapped and just kept fighting anyway, or that time when some dude's hair just turned yellow and he flew away from the ring, or that time when...
@@aaronm4706 dont forget the time when the white hair guy beat up the alien and then got beat up and then beat up the alien again and then got beat up again and then the white alien and the white hair guy who now has yellow and black hair beat up the alien
Don't forget when that big guy that was in the last tournament bodied the daughter of winner of the last tournament and that other tournament where the guy with yellow hair screamed then he turn red then punched a green guy then the green guy hit him and the yellow guy then they started fighting then
@@anondouchebag907 agreed personally i vastly prefer the original but like the new one and get why people like him just wished akira kept the original broly and expand it more cause og broly had so much potential but its toriyama he prefers making his own characters
The entire point of Cooler's character is that he recognizes Frieza's overconfidence and carelessness but is too self-absorbed and hypocritical to realize his own, and his death is a reflection of that. He's Frieza's older brother who thinks he's better but is only able to see his brother's faults, not his own. Not sure how that didn't land for you, it's pretty much the entire purpose of the "two scenes" he was in.
Because in the end, he's literally just Freeza, but with none of the awesome personality or time to get us used to him. If he is gonna be different from Frieza and recognize his flaws, then there's no point in making him commit the exact same mistakes. You can either do one thing or the other.
@@infamousplayer8772 I wanted cooler to be completely different from freezer an honorable more skilled warrior who had to train for his power. And this was my head canon until I actually watched the movie. I’m disappointed and I’m gonna go back to my head cannon and pretend he was introduced in dragon ball Xenoverse two.
Cooler flipping on his decision to not blow up the planet is actually a good one imho It shows just how hard he was backed into a corner. It shows the severity of the situation Cooler is put in against an enraged Super Saiyan Goku. It goes along well with him flashing back to him allowing Goku's saiyan pod to escape Death Ball's wake It also shows Cooler may seem to have more honor than his brother Freiza... But he's not much different from his brother Frieza.
Exactly. Besides, how many times in Dragonball has the villain started a fight with a "I'm just gonna enjoy myself before I kill you and everyone you love" kind of attitude, but ended up not giving a shit by the end due to sheer frustration? It makes complete sense given how much of an ego villains tend to have in this series.
Sethnotasithsr Not only do I agree with this as Cooler‘s Desperation-Move to contradicting his own words once he took that beating, but also, as we all know, he really is like Frieza... ...But *cooler.*
Agreed. Also, I think Cooler is an interesting character, and would make a great foil for Freeza if he’s introduced into the series proper. He’s more benevolent in attitude than Freeza.
@@samuraigundam0079 Cooler thinks he is better than Frieza and looks down on him, he is in fact driven to prove himself different to and better than Frieza, but ultimately proves himself to be just the same.
If you really think about it..was his decision to flip and go against his word to not blow up the planet sensible? If anything it makes Cooler seem kind of stupid and I really am a fan of the character. If someone as powerful as Frieza was defeated, and by a Saiyan no less and he has knowledge of this, why would he be so overconfident in dealing with him to the point of declaring he wouldn’t blow up the planet to defeat him? It makes him seem either way too over confident or an idiot. Yes he took Goku out with that laser beam which could easily lead to him underestimating him but even that felt forced. With the amount of punishment Goku has taken through his bouts, for him to be so badly damaged from that one attack while he was fresh seems a bit inconsistent and it feels like it was solely executed that way for the sake of the plot.
Though I agree with most of your points for Cooler's Revenge, my main gripe is your statement on Goku concerning himself with the wellbeing of wildlife being a big contradictions of his actions in the series. Since the beginning of Dragon Ball Goku was always kind to the nature around him, as he would help monkey's as a child, save Master Roshi's Sea Turtle and was generally raised in the wild as a country hick. For him to be gentle to a damaged bird is definitely in Goku's character as even though his Saiyan heritage makes him love fighting, sometimes at the expense of others, Goku always despised those who killed the innocent needlessly. Just like Eighter taught him when he was about to kill General White, and Popo after Goku killed Piccolo Daimao, bloodlust or needlessly killing innocents was always generally wrong to Goku, hence why he would always fight to protect Earth and despised the villains who would destroy life so indiscriminately.
Vivid Sniper totally agree, while Goku was very eager to fight a new foe, he always convinced his enemy to fight far away from nature or large cities, that’s why most of the fight scenes are in deserts and mountains so far away from everything else.
@@fitzhugh7463 Ya I knew people would point that out, but hey a guy's gotta eat to survive. The wolves did attack Goku first and Goku was a uneducated child at the time, his sense of morality wasn't as common place as it is now. I'm not saying Goku is innocent or a savior for wildlife but what I'm saying is Goku definitely honors nature in certain circumstances within the series as a whole.
10:57 Let's be real here; They shoved Goku in at the end so they could slap SSJ3 on the cover. At the time SSJ3 was only recently introduced, so from a business perspective putting him in the movie (even if forced) was a great way to market it.
for myself the biggest problem next to story for those old movies is... Let's wait with powering up even though I am struggling so much... like dude... you know you have that power. What are you waiting for? (which fusion reborn didn't have) and for best potential, has to go to "wrath of the dragon" but like you said, to little play time
I mean, most of the Saiyans in the movies prefer to gauge their opponents before transforming, its even pointed out in the anime, being considered a saiyan trait.
So you know that anti-piracy ad you showed a short clip of in the beginning? Yeah, the people who made that ad actually pirated the music that was used. As a certain Sith lord would put it: Ironic.
Yeah, he mentioned before not wanting to fight anywhere with people or animals around :0 Sure, Goku isn’t a tree hugger but he hates living things getting caught in the crossfire
+Son Gohan: I specifically remember when he fought Vegeta, he mentioned no people OR animals being around. Other than that, it prolly didn’t come up (unless I’m forgetting)
Tia Blue And it remains consistent throughout his canon and non-canon stories He didn’t harm the lions in movie 13, he wouldn’t kill animals unless he had to eat when he was a child in DB, etc
13:43 Fun fact : Cover the left side of the screen, and you'll see Goku. Cover the right side of the screen, and you'll see Vegeta. They gave so much attention to detail in Fusion Reborn!!
@My dudes My dudes then you're not looking at the right places my dude ;) look at the hairline and the jawline.. You'll see that they're different for both sides (and no, it's not because the artist couldn't draw them symmetrically xD)
Dude, you totally missed the point of Cooler being like Frieza.. Ignorance got them killed. Cooler could have killed Goku as a baby, but he blamed Frieza for being foolish and arrogant, letting Goku escape. In Coolers dying moment he even realized, that he should have killed Goku back then. Pointing out that hes not better than Frieza! Im not saying this movie was 10/10 or whatever, but this one was so obvious, that Im kinda shocked you missed it.
@@Zacman1123 true tree of might starts way slower than coolers revenge does. Armored squad is more memorable. Someone say the name of one of the crusher corps (except ball sack twins) without looking it up. I dont think anyone can come close to remembering there names. And cooler is better than turles
What makes Cooler's Revenge for me is the music. The metal soundtrack truly inspired what would become my favorite genre of music. From the beginning seeing Bardock face Freeza to Drowning Pool's Reminded solidified me as a metalhead and that's what guaranteed my entry as a metalhead.
it was a thing in general for these movies to have metal music whilie the song in general didnt fit the scene where it was in then the music itself did fit dragon balls astheftic kinda wished he still did it
@@flamo2666 It was my favorite movie! I loved the plot of an evil scientist searching for the strongest warrior in the world so he can take their body, and I think the premise was executed wonderfully!
The first three movies are way underrated. They actually had a story and villains with personalities. The new ones that everyone loves don’t. It’s just bad guy shows up with no motives other then destroy the world because that’s what they’re supposed to do. They grunt a lot and that’s it. The only reason I’ve heard as to why bojack is so popular is because gohan goes ss2 in it and trunks was cool. Personally I thought bojack was the worst movie next to super android 17 and the mecha cooler one.
Bojack should’ve said something along the lines of “I came to thank the person who freed me from my prison. I kept hearing Kai mention Earth over and over again before the explosion. Since then I’ve freed my crew and have been searching for Earth. Who knew the Earth would of found us instead.” I think something along those lines would be way better than “The Earth is beautiful”.
World's Strongest was great! Grrat fight scenes, great animation and Dr Wheelo was an excellent VillA in. If there is any villain who should be rebooted, Its Wheelo.
One of my greatest Dragon Ball dreams is definitely a Wrath of the Dragon remake that fixes all the issues and gives it a larger run time. Tapion's story deserves to be fleshed out better and given a better ending.
Going to have disagree with you on Cooler. The dude's one of my favorite Dragon Ball villains. While he had some similarities with Freeza, such as ego, he had differences and nuances as well: 1. He implied, at least in the English dub, that Cold favored Freeza, there was some sibling rivalry going on and the brothers would've tried to kill each other if Goku hadn't unintentionally butted in. 2. Cooler wanting to see Goku's corpse himself before blowing up Earth could be argued to be pragmatism as well as ego. If he blew up the planet from the start, there would be the possibility Goku escaped to get payback later. 3. Back to the sibling rivalry, Cooler said that Freeza had the advantage power wise at first since he was a prodigy. Cooler was only able to surpass him by discovering the armored fifth form, implying that Cooler wasn't afraid to learn and train. This is something Freeza wouldn't try until after escaping Hell. 4. When Cooler discovered Goku was the Saiyan baby he let go, he learned he and Freeza weren't as different as he thought as he burned in the sun... I could keep going, but that would take awhile. That being said, I hope Cooler becomes canon someday. It did wonders for Broly!
Honestly cooler as a concept is pretty stupid no matter how you try and spin it. Why would cold favor frieza over cooler? Why would he even have a second son after the first? And it also doesn't do anything for Frieza's character at all. The only real reason cooler is liked is because he's got an extra form that's a shredder rip off. Which also completely disregards how the transformations for that race are supposed to work, being ways of conserving and controlling power, and not an actual power-boost. If cooler ever becomes canon, I do hope it's just a passing mention. Something along the lines of "And he was deemed a failure, father killed him and then I was made to replace him, much like how he replaced all the others before him". Because at least in that regard, it does something for both Cold and Frieza's characters.
@@stamatooss My wife is an author, so the writing long paragraphs has become a force of habit. One that is hard to break because I’m a biologist and like to get very detailed on things.
Coolers revenge is my favorite dragonball movie. I love everything about the movie. Maybe it’s just the nostalgia talking but the movie makes me happy every time I watch it
Tiger but Goku is a protector and an idiot child minded person that’s what makes him fun. I get that super took it to far but the threats he had to face in Z ( I’m not counting OG dragon ball because he was a child) ever gave him the time to be as stupid (although it also there) as in super which has much more down time In it then z.
If Tapion was canon in the future timeline, watching from heaven he must have been proud to see Trunks slay Fusion Zamasu with his blade. Even if he likely got erased, he still went out knowing his blade was in good hands… Also, I know Future Trunks originally had the Z Sword, but it broke sometime after he slayed Dabura and Babidi.
Based off of your analysis I'm going to guess for you it goes like this. 1: Fusion Reborn. 2: Wrath of the dragon 3: Cooler's revenge. 4: Bojack unbound. Am I right?
I remember watching Fusion Reborn for the first time and thinking it was epic as hell. I honestly don't remember anything that happened on Earth, just what was happening in the battle with Janemba. That's a little problematic for the movie, but my god was that fight beautiful. So grace, so super, so saiyan, much scream.
@@MaxIronsThird I just love how people were hyped for the movie and during its first few months it was beloved, now everyone hates it. typical dragon ball fan behaviour lol
@@Xeno574 Do you realize i'm not part of this so called group that loved the movie when it came out, right?! There are different people in the world and with different opinions. i think DBS Broly is an unoriginal, overdone, overly long, non-stopping punching and flashing lights, retconning and tiring movie, and that green alien is fucking obnoxious, that's my opinion since the day i watched the movie in January. Bardock: Father of Goku >> History of Trunks >> Fusion Reborn >> The Legendary SSJ/DBS Broly.
True, but Dragon Ball has never put an emphasis on it like that with Goku before. He may pet an animal, but never to the point that he's unconscious in a cave, surrounded by wild animals. Its a bit over the top.
@@Spencer_232 true, I wasn't saying he doesn't care about animals. But the movie treats him like those christ-like figure that cares so much about animals that he revives them and they hang out with him on the brink of death. He's never been portrayed that way.
Aww, Gohan and Icarus are so cute! 2:05 OH DEAR GOD XD ICARUS WTF XDD I almost fell out of my chair laughing at the Dragon sounds. Did not expect that.
It took me half an hour to finish this video due to the vicious cycle of pausing to laugh and rewinding to watch it again. That mess had me in stitches.
Listen, I hear what you're saying about Bojack Unbound but... The beginning is dumb fun, Trunks is looking mighty spicy and that may be Gohan's best design.
2 major points to be made. 1. Fusion Reborn is far to simple to skip over one of the most touching scenes Vegeta has ever portrayed. I loved this movie because of the interaction between Goku and Vegeta before giving the fans what they wanted, their fusion obviously. 2. The only good thing to me about Cooler's Revenge was the dubbed soundtrack and the eventual creation of The Return of Cooler. The sequel far exceeds the original in every way possible besides the emotion given buuuuttt that's again largely because of the English dub soundtrack. 🤷♂️
The dubbed soundtrack in Cooler's Revenge was half the thing that made the movie for. It adds so much tension and atmosphere to even the simplest scuffles. And Cooler himself I also really enjoyed. He's basically Frieza, but more hands on, level headed, and doesn't underestimate his does at any point in the movie (which always impressed as a kid).
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 Does it, or are you just using a term that our content provider used multiple times to sound savvy in your rebuttal. You don't have to think of it as one of your favorites but just like Fusion Reborn it's give a intro to create the plot line and then basically relentless action until the resolution. For me, these 2 do what you want from a short shounen movie; give a basic storyline and lots of good action scenes.
scotti dont no. It literally has atrocious pacing, 80% of the movie is the main cast fighting a single metal cooler and the robot drones. Then everyone gets captured they get free and kill cooler in the last ten minutes of the movie (if even). It is one of my favorite movies actually, it was the first Z movie I ever owned, but it isn’t one of the best of those movies, not in plot, not in animation, and certainly not in action. It’s got some great scenes, but it needed to be divided into two movies in order to do the concept justice. I’ve always said if bio Broly didn’t exist and instead cooler had 3 movies then Meta Cooler could be the most popular of the movies ideas.
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 If you liked it then what's your point?? I never said it was one of the best. I said the original isn't one of the best and that the sequel was better.
I always looked at the movies as storyline "what if" scenarios or even their own timeline. Which is why some things don't make sense when trying to fit them into continuity.
They way I see these DBZ films are a visual spectacle. (When there's some good visuals to be seen) I don't bother getting into the story as much as would the television series. The one's I say that kinda do both are World's Strongest, Fusion Reborn, and Wrath of the Dragon.
Agreed, and therefor i am so glad they are not canon. I can skip them and not miss anything. Even better, anything that did work seems to get reintroduced into the canon. A massive filter of sorts. The new Broly for example was awesome and they fixed so many things that was wrong with the orriginal.
I forgot the whole thing about them lowering their power levels makes them normal human strength, that's such a logical thing that is never really explored in the main series.
I'm definitely one that tends to really enjoy action for action's sake. It's why I voted for Cooler's Revenge. I just love that it doesn't waste any time at the beginning. It knows that there's a pretty good sized portion of the Dragon Ball fandom that just wants to see cool fights and only takes about 2-5 minutes setting up why the characters are in the middle of a forest before jumping straight into the fighting. I also voted for Wrath of the Dragon and my opinion of that film is basically the same as yours, except, while I do agree the final scene feels out of place with how focused the entire film was on Trunks and Tapion, I don't completely hate it. It would have been cooler to see Tapion and Trunks/Gotenks team up to deliver the final blow on Hirudegarn, but it's whatever.
Definitely. In all honesty, TFS did the Broly movie better than the original. I mean, the original couldn't have been the same since TFS is a totally different type of dub, but I enjoyed the TFS Broly waay more than the original one
The implication is that Hirudegarn showed up in Future Trunk’s timeline too. Future Gohan and Trunks were then able to defeat Hirudegarn (likely by killing Tapion).
Making a point to go back and rewatch all your content (priority to Dragon Ball) again. Sucks to see what happened over the holidays and sucks to not see as many videos come from your channel. With that, I know I a lot of us are waiting to hear more of your thoughts on the upcoming movie this April. You’re one of the biggest voices to a lot of folks on DB character progression and story/narrative arcs. Too understandable that you’re probably still apprehensive over the whole ordeal I’m sure you’re still battling. Regardless, have to let you know, the viewers still love you Mark. You’re a talented dude and we haven’t forgotten… Haven’t forgotten your talent, the joy you bring folks through your content, the knowledge or the deeper inter workings of plot that you impart, and your genuinely positive and hopeful spirit. Again man, looking forward to the next projects. Gonna keep supporting and running up the numbers on what you still have on the platform. Take care of yourself! Very Respectfully, Ken Recurrent Viewer
6:28 “Why did you need to be told that?” That is EXACTLY what I said watching dub for the first time lmaooo. Really like what the dub did for the scene.
Frieze is awesome for those exact reasons. He is the exact polar opposite to Guku. He is not meant to have any sympathy for or resemble anything likeable. He is a perfect villain design for the main protaganist that is Goku.
But they named Bojack as one of their favourite DBZ films. It was their script they found was boring because they couldn't find a way to make fun of the plot.
The Bojack issues are interesting because it reflects the Cell saga a lot. Gohan is treated like the hero but isn't given anything to do until the very end of the plot, and the main villain doesn't appear until halfway through the arc.
@@jkf6676 I mean I guess if you separate the arc into smaller parts but there isnt really any conclusion to the androids if you end their arc there and just call Cell's entrance the beginning of a new arc
No bardock father of goku?!?!?! Is it not considered a movie like the rest? I know it was a TV special first, but I consider it, then coolers revenge to be excellent bookends to the whole saiyan thru freeza sagas. (Both movies also had excellent soundtracks in the subs)
@@smaragdchaos true. But, it's out of cannon under an hour and a side story, -I would've included it. Especially since in the western market it was sold just like all the theatrical movies, straight to home video with no wide release in theaters (not counting the new stuff, battle of the gods ect)
@Matthew Cooper yeah I get it, but i dont agree with it. Especially since this video was made now that we know bardock father of goku isnt cannon. And since it was realised and marketed as a movie in America
I feel the first review undersells Cooler to be honest, I like him vastly more than Frieza who comes off as a lazy, petulant egotist to me. In comparison Cooler actually looks after his soldiers, he's genre savvy enough to not presume victory, he can hide his Ki and clearly actually trained unlike his brother making him a legitimate threat in a way that Frieza wasn't and through the majority of it he was a consimate professional. I also like how coordinated the Armored Squadron are, they can hide their Ki's as well and actually work together, with Salza being especially smart in noticing and taking out the Senzu and even being able to hold up against Piccolo relatively well hinting at them being vastly superior to the Ginyu's. Plus Cooler blowing up the planet is, A, not wanting to be killed and B, still him getting the kill on Goku cos the attack was launched at him and almost took him out. He just didn't want to win by suffocating Goku to death because that wouldn't be a legit win.
In my opinion, these films were fine but the gohan in the bojack movie kinda bothered me a bit too haha. Whenever I saw a dragon ball movie on air when I was younger, it was an instant watch for me and they never left me disappointed. It would be so nostalgic for these movies to air again on cartoon network.
I really think Tapion is my second favorite character behind ssj 4 gogeta. He just gave off that vibe of a cool character and the pain he held felt real. The trunks scene made me sad, and then when he didnt kill him I was mad but relieved like it was so good.
Considering that Fusion Reborn was actually my FIRST dbz movie watched, (I was introduced to the show in 2011 so......) And I loved every minute of it, it wasnt my first intro to the series, since it was me playing Budokai Tenchaichi 3 that introduced me to the dbz story, then I watched the show from Raddits to The end of Z. This was what I saw right after, and I still think its my favorite [pre BoG] Dbz movie
I liked fusion reborn and the concept of Janemba. I thought the Hitler part was funny as well. The Bojack movie was like a generic version of the cell fight, to capitalize on ssj2 Gohan. Cooler's henchmen were good, but the only interesting part of him was his final form. I lover wrath of the dragon right the way through until the dragon fist ass pull.
As an animator, the slow-mo scene in which Big Boi Cooler blasts off towards Goku in front of the waterfall was SO POWERFUL AND IMPACTFUL. Like "oh my GOD HE'S AMAZING" .....but then the rest of the movie happened XD
Can you guys imagine if they redid cooler like they did with broly. Not exactly like broly, where he overpowers everyone except whis and Gogeta, but like a new story. Make him different and cooler (Ba-Doom-tss) like a tactician or strategist or anything like that you know. Having constant fights with newer stronger characters is so stale in the Dragon Ball series. Evil-Doer shows up, is too strong for everybody, a method that can increase the heroes strength that should've been known from the start instead of near the end (like the ROSAT in the androids/cell sagas)
Well I mean Cooler was stronger than Freeza, so a Cooler reboot would be inevitable to be strong. Cooler should have the qualities he had as a Metal Cooler tbh, Metal Cooler had a ruthless fighting style without being too cruel.
@@smaragdchaos If they do plan to make a Cooler reboot, I want to see more of Cooler's past/relationship with his father King Cold and brother Frieza. Make Cooler jealous of his brother because his father gave his empire to frieza instead of Cooler the older sibling. Just some ideas I thought that would be cool
@@maxziliushero920 I'm pretty sure they're not gunna fuse. Before the broly movie came out, everyone was thinking that goku would have to use Ultra Instinct in order to defeat broly. But it didn't happen.
It’ll always blow my mind how far animators would push fight scenes in the 2D aspect, that’s why I like all the old DBZ movies. CGI or 3D feels like I’m watching a scene from a video game. Not saying the Super movies are bad cuz I love the plot to them.
Loved the video man, finally got a chance to watch. I agree with a lot of the things you said! Personally some of my favorite aspects of dragon ball films are the slice of life stuff and idk if I’m alone on that? It’s just nice that the put the characters in normal situations
7:10 literally takes a padded jab at people who like this movie as if somehow the only way you can like it is based on visuals or action No, revealing the villain late adds a sense of dread by changing the nature of the film later rather than knowing what you are dealing with sooner, which is part of the reason the movie is so drastically different. It has a darker tone, and uses elements of what traditionally is par for the course in horror and thriller films, and mixes it with the same feelings of the cell saga, delivering a film that better represents the dread these characters face. This Gohan is a far better gohan than what we got in the cell saga for the sake of lead, since he is not afraid to take action, it can either symbolize growth or better yet my main argument as to why gohan could NEVER lead DB without just becoming Bojack/Future Gohan. I agree that show dont tell is a lot better than tell dont show, but then again this movie felt like they thought the 45 minute constraint was in effect and had no clue what to do with the extra time. Most of all though you skip over one of the biggest parts of the film: Trunks, Vegeta, and Piccolo. Each had a development in the cell saga that is HIGHLY reflected in the film and makes the entire film worth it off of CHARACTERS alone. Also the "Goku can't punch people he ded" sort of falls apart when 1) check-in station physically links the kai realm and earth (plus he literally walked around on earth for a day while dead) 2) Goku has a physical body even while dead 3) Buu was beating up "dead" characters to where they would have ceased to exist if buu double-killed them So your gripes only work in an episodic story with a set tone. Not an anthology movie series that is constantly shifting tones to separate themselves from regular DB
Goku was always one to care about the lives of others and animals and such. I don't see how healing a bird is such a problem when there are many scenes in Z and Dragon Ball where it shows Goku's care and concern for nature. He healed Frieza in the namek saga lol.
I feel the same way about the Bardock special. It’s mediocre in every sense of the word but the music fucking SLAPS. Solid State Scouter is a personal highlight.
There was an instagram post that said... Which would u rather pick, dbz fusion reborn? Or dbs broly. To my surprise a lot of people said fusion reborn. I said to myself why??? Dbs broly has a better story (in my opinion) the antagonist has layers to his character and the animation was 100x better than fusion reborn. Why do people like fusion reborn over dbs broly? Only answer I could think of is nostalgia. People grew up with it and loved it. The thing is I grew up with it too but can admit that fusion reborn is inferior to dbs broly. Would like to hear anyone else's opinion.
DBS also has a better Gogeta. Sure in Fusion Reborn he came in and did his job, but DBS Gogeta did the same but with a longer, better choreographed, and visually stunning battle. Broly is also written better than he was in the past movies. He was a savage back then, but that’s all he had going for him. He’s pretty much what anyone who hasn’t seen DB thinks that’s what DB is; mindless. Like what Mark said about Cooler: he’s cool in action but he’s boring in character. At least in Super he’s given more drama to go with his story
i have to agree obviously i can't count superior animation as a plus because you're comparing something that is almost 20+ years apart but when it came to being a cinematic experience DBS broly was phenomenal the music, sound design and cinematography made my brain switch off and just enjoy the movie but i couldn't keep my mouth closed and by the end i was messing with that gogeta track heavy while the fight was going on. man that movie is dope.
@UCNprlvDS4m5TlTBujcgE7_Q I guess I do like the style of dbs broly. The way it looks, being more manga focused. They way the animation flows beautifully, (of course we have better technology which is why I like dbs broly). However compared to Dbz fusion reborn? Idk...I believe the only reason I dislike it is because gogeta shows up for like 5 mins, when the movie is called fusion reborn. I understand why u don't like dbs broly, but for me, I love the action. There was 30 mins of exposition and the rest was mostly fighting, I say that is pretty balanced when it comes to a dragon ball movie. Felt like I got enough story through bardock, broly, and paragus in the beginning and gotta whole lot of action which actually featured gogeta for more than 5 mins. Also gave vegeta some serious cool moments unlike other dragon ball movies. Dbs broly was longer and not just 50 mins. Mark said it best when he said this was the downfall to most dragonball z movies.
FINALLY somebody calls out how bland Cooler is, he's just a Frieza clone with all of the charm extracted out, like they were trying to make an edgy brother OC (and I guess they succeeded). But I guess we've gotta keep that "but I'm Cooler" meme going for another decade until we're on life support just like the meme itself huh...
I'm pretty sure most fans know Cooler is just a blander Frieza. However, a nice design and cool action can go a long way with people. That's probably how Broly stayed popular enough to be legitimately interesting.
I find him to be way more enjoyable than freeza. Less cackling maniac and more cool despot. Freeza is often portrayed as way to into showcasing evil for evils sake to be taken very seriously by me. Hes more carnage than venom to use a marvel comics reference. Cooler is more venom, evil but not so wild. I could see him running a successful business (of intergalactic mercenaries) more than freeza.
@@Getwright- I mean, you basically described _why_ Frieza is the better villain. Frieza's over the top politeness, his quick temper to anyone who disrespects him, and his massive fragile ego are what make him an amazing villain. Cooler's personality traits are that... he's pissed that Goku killed his brother, despite Cooler saying that Frieza deserved to die for being a disgrace? Not exactly the most clear and cut personality if you ask me...
@@Thebes342 yeah I guess its subjective, but to me coolers seemed more 3 dimensional, yeah he had pride for his family's reputation, but he didn't really like them. And he didn't bother with small fry (which is why he screwed up and let goku's escape pod get away all those years ago) but like I said, its subjective and i tend to like more calm villains. It why i like Cell (perfect Cell) more than freiza or kid Boo (that and he had the coolest design lol)
@@SourRobo8364 There is so much wrong with the Broly movies. Only the visual design and the premise of the one and only "legendary super saiyan" is all it had going for it. As a movie it was pretty damn terrible. I also never seen a movie where the motivation for the main antagonist was so laughily bad that i could not take the rest of the movie serious anymore. But some fans dont care as asingle good visual design is aperantly all that is need for them.
Its one of the most mediocre. It has good premise but nothing more. Motivation is stupid at best. And action isn't all that great. Broly mostly uses blast from his chest to destroy everyone and does it like 10 times.
@@krillinsindahouse1898 Bitch, please! Dead Zone, World's Strongest, Tree of Might, Lord Slug, and Broly Second Coming are far worse than those two. Pffft!
Let me just say that the decision to use heavy metal bands like Disturbed and Deftones for some of the American DBZ movies was an AWESOME one. It introduced me and most likely others to some awesome bands. Plus anytime I hear Disturbeds The Game all I can see is Goku fighting Cooler.
