Not ALL negative ion generators are radioactive! 

Sounds like big Clive all right. You know he's always tasting things to am I right? Not to mention expired food taste tests. And God only knows what else that would affect his health in negative ways. Big climb any thoughts on why you actually do that or anyone have any serious please comment below.

big climb

I almost peed with this comment.

That’s the difference between a professional and amateur electrician. The professionals make it look easy without dying 😀

@@furblokeEN easily done predictive text takes over when u press send. Results can be amusing but unavoidable to normal humans

Nice

I remember seeing a video where they talked about the ladies who painted radium on watch hands. They'd lick the brushes so the bristles would stick together. Then they mysteriously developed mouth/throat cancer...

@@prdoohan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls

@@prdoohan fake story

You can get professional level air conditioning solutions with ion filters.

I think hospital operating room air filters have them incorporated in their multi stage filtration systems.

@@Wheel333 I once proposed a home air condition system that made use of disused house chimneys as a port to vent and exchange home air at roof top level. The idea was simple, run a coaxial pipe up the flue from a reversable electric heat pump, heat exchanger in the fire place. At roof top level air separation was to be achieved using the temperature differential between the two air flows, with hot air discharged above the cold. It was proposed that this system used an ioniser and metal mesh filters to clean the air, the advantage being that the filters would be easy to clean and not require expensive replacements. Now there is a requirement to phase out open hearth coal fires, to reduce carbon emissions, maybe the idea will find an application in retro fitting heating and air conditioning to older homes.

I featured an Ioniser that had a collection mat that was at a slightly more positive voltage than ground to try and attract the charged dust.

@@bigclivedotcom was that the pyramid shaped unit? As far as I can tell the best solution is to discharge the ion stream on a metal filter, as the advantage of breathing negatively charged air is questionable, but removing dust, pollen , etc is obvious. As far as I am aware, the Dyson air cleaner uses filters that must be replaced. The attraction of using ioniser air is that the dust is easy to collect on filters that are easy to clean. What was impressive was the speed with which the wall were blackened by the dust removed from the air, suggesting it really works as an air cleaner. I did consider putting together a box with a fan and ioniser inside. Sucking the air through such a box solves the problem of keeping the fan clean. One solution is to make the container out of large diameter uPVC drain pipe, arranged in a U shape. Ions being injected at the pipe inlet and a filter and fan fitted in the outlet. The filter might be made from loose bundle of earthed steal or copper wool.

10% Chance for mutation 10% Chance for permanent dissease

Letters to Fuckface Get a good snake oil seller and youve got a business. Theres literally people selling tap water as magic remedies, so i dont see why you couldnt sell toilet water too. Theres already people selling bath water now that i think about it. Water sales are a serious money maker.

@@laharl2k Thirsty boys!

@IbukiHimari The most efficient way to give someone Herpes!

Making Nuka Cola Since 1920's.

I'd most vehemently disagree - such devices should be used to treat drinking water at all venues where politicians congregate!

The inventors wife said he drank that stuff until his jaw fell off

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@@Nomad-Rogers That medical quackery stuff is horrifying.

Probably just cross contamination at that point? They might keep the box of cards resting on top of the open bags of powder! :O

@@TechyBen It's way too hot for that, if that were the case you'd expect the rest of the packaging it came in to also be active, but it's not.

@@Chlorate299 That is truly horrifying then. As, a mistake, no matter how bad is a mistake. But someone choosing to be a fool.. that is deadly multiplied!

@@Chlorate299 how hot exactly??

@@beware_the_moose "Hot" is a relative term I suppose my geiger counter peaks out at around 2 microsieverts per hour when held against the card, which isn't particularly hazardous however it is way higher than natural sources. This is also when measured with an SBM-20 tube too, so can only detect beta and gamma radiation. This stuff is apparently doped with Thorium oxide so should be giving off more alpha than anything.

Indeed, it seems that as we age, the noxious effects multiply, much like the cap/diode combo. I released a bit the other day and the 2 cats that were on my lap gave me a really nasty look before running for the kitchen and some welcome relief in the wondrous smell of bacon frying in the pan, and my wonderful wife of 50 years, the perfume of life indeed.

@@JerryEricsson I made some wonderful pasta with sausage, broccoli, portabellas with a garlic cheese sauce. Even my pee filled the air with a garlicy bouquet for 2 days. I'll have some more broccoli today. I use to really get my dog good. cabbage and some peas would really gas him good. He'd run for the doggy door putting all the way. I miss him. He'd fart and look at me, I'd say "Does it stink". He'd sniff, if he laid back down it was ok. But if he headed for his door, grab the can of air freshener.

High voltage, fun for all the family! 😅

I'm no expert, but wouldn't you want more than just heat-shrink tubing - or more than just a single layer of it, at least - when dealing with voltages that high to ground? (And not just to guard against punctures like this!) I seem to recall Clive once mentioning getting burns through an insulated cable when working/playing with a neon transformer (perhaps his F.A.R.T.; perhaps mentioned in the Lichtenberg wood-burning video?), or was that caused by/did that require a high-frequency component?

@@AndrewGillard yeah, I was lazy so I only did 1 layer of heatshrink, I did poured molten wax down tube after it has been shrink to prevent it arcing internally, this is not high frequency but just a capacitor voltage multiplier with mains frequency around 50Hz

@@pierreuntel1970 Most heatshrink claims to be rated for around 600V. So yes, even with more than one layer it can still break through. You should definitely use something else to insulate high voltage devices. (like thick plastic)

@@Basement-Science Epoxy or Polyester resin works quite well. The later one can build up some charge if used to insulate HV DC. At least the one I used once did.

Didn't he also find that rare expensive type of crystal that emits some level of ions and no radiation or am I thinking of another video? First he tests those salt lamp things and they produced nothing measurable. They are nice to have even if they create ozone you can at least save them for when an area is smelly and then run it in that area while you aren't in there, just like mechanics do to clean the smoke smell out of smoker's cars.

They do create a small amount of ozone... but ozone is not harmful in small concentrations.

@@madmanmapper The scientist who tested Derek's ioniser for ozone made a big hoo-ha about the emissions... switched it off and ran away and all that. But Veritassium is a big millions-of-viewer channel and so may lean a bit unnecessarily towards the drama.... And just because you've got a research-chemist checking your appliance for emissions that's no assurance that they're not a huge drama-queen either I suppose.

@@El_Chompo The only rare and expensive crystals that emit ions that I can think of are stuff like Uraninite ;) ions from crystals with no radiation... nope can't see that meself! If there's a geologist in the house who fancies calling me a plonker... do feel free.

@@edgeeffect Well you got me curious so I went and found the video in question: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZQ--scjcAZ4.html the mineral is called Turmaline and supposedly when heated it emits ions

Great. add that to this American product and you've got an instant cancer triple pack-> Asbestos cigarette filters were produced by Hollinsworth & Vose Company, also called H&V Specialties, for Lorillard Tobacco Company's “Kent Micronite” brand cigarettes. Lorillard abandoned the asbestos filter design in 1956, but by then, nearly 11.7 billion asbestos-containing Kent Micronite cigarettes had been sold in the United States.

@@moshly64 clives device isnt all that bad in Industry such things are used to remove static electricity from

@@anxiousmerchant4129 I meant to add the toothpaste radioactive element to the cigarettes mentioned above. (joke) & while I'm thinking of crazy ideas company's have had, google 'ford nucleon' ;0

Thats ridiculous usa has harmful products left and right too

He isnt an anti-vax so its fine

Like he said, they were not were sharp. And also, rust is actually a very hostile environment for most organism, so catching an infection from an old rusty needle would probably be the least of your worries.

Tetanus is caught from animal manure, not purely rusty nails. Especially not one buried inside this appliance that was always on a shelf, not on a farm/soil/etc. The association of rusty nails/any nails with tetanus is probably from farms and roads of olden days.

@@Y.M... the bacteria causing tetanus can be found just about anywhere, there's a good possibility you could wipe some dust off of an old shelf and find a shit ton. If you can look close enough

That was going to be my first comment you didn't steal it because you were first LOL.

What, with a switch on top? No way!

@@Mark1024MAK I Know lol.... In my defence, my brain was trying to figure out what had happened to the keyboard......

Well now is it everyone waiting for that moment. Or maybe he doesn't itch Lee after knowing it's already discharged. Come to think of it I don't remember video that he actually did get that and I would want so far but then again I've seen what seems like billions of them now.

Do you know ElectroBoom?

"Euhhhhh" .... lol!

I cleaned underside of my lamp without knowing it didnt have a bottom and I was touching live 230 v wires with a wet washing cloth. Noticed something was wrong when my fingers felt like vibrating. That could have gone really bad. I later forgot about it and repeated my mistake. The lamp has a note on it now. Ive had close calls with 230 v many times. Cant help to wonder if someone doesnt want me to die. Perhaps hell is full at the moment?

no he is not i like to stick paper clips into outlets

Are the bipolar ones the static dissipating ones for electronics workshops? I'm not sure how well they will work in air cleaning. A traditional needle ioniser produces very little ozone.

@@bigclivedotcom These were sold originally to be fitted into air conditioning ducts. I'm somewhat skeptical of their claims. They do work. A small AliExpress ion detector indicates ions but the corona discharge is barely visible. The electronics are potted and powered by 12VDC (from a separate 24VAC power supply) so I'm not sure how they work. If they don't work I'll just build my own. These are the ones I messaged you about a couple weeks ago. Photo on Patreon messages.

I know that I made one about 20 years ago. It still works.

@@leglessinoz so did I. Mine came from Maplins !

@@thehappylittlefoxakabenji8154 I miss Maplins, dammit!

@@oldbatwit5102 yep me too never got the chance to visit one of their stores but did buy a lot from them back in the 70's loved their catalogues such great artwork on the covers !

he did - I remember it!

I still haven't figured out what ozone smells like!

@@beware_the_moose Its smell is acrid and pungent a bit like chlorine. If you have ever been near a photocopier making multiple copies then the odour in the immediate area is due to ozone produced by the machine.

those plugs arent 'illegal' to 'use' if you already have them, just illegal to sell to public now...

@@andygozzo72 You are of course correct. But when I do a PAT test, I still recommend replacing them with the new safer ones.

@@MrFlint51 ah, well, thats a different case, i worked for someone doing appliance testing some years ago round local upper schools and we had to change any non sleeved plugs,

Still. A thunderstorm probably produces more ozone.

@@jeffkardosjr.3825 In a closed space it can be dangerous.

@@fishsauce2221 But who has shown one to create levels near what OSHA or NIOSH would consider to be dangerous?

@@jeffkardosjr.3825 I have no clue. I read on many sites they were dangerous to use in small places like a room in a home that usually have limited ventilation. My lungs are already messed up to the point of near failure. Stuff that can affect my lungs terrify me. Was interested in such a device because it could help clean the air. Just couldnt risk it because of the ozone thing. Went back to my original idea of buying an air purifier instead. So much for trying to save money.

Worth a read, low dose radiation could be good for your health. www.discovermagazine.com/health/could-small-amounts-of-radiation-be-good-for-you-its-complicated.

twocvbloke ionizing radiation therapy machine for “curing” cancer 😂 I never can understand how ionizing radiation can cure cancer when it’s been known to cause it

@@geodun yeah, I'll just stick with normal background radiation.

@@ec8107 Thing is, what is normal? A nuclear reactor construction engineer set off a radiation alarm at the work site, but there was no nuclear material at the site yet, it was from the radon gas in his house. www.radonillinois.com/the-discovery-of-radon-in-homes-the-story-of-stanley-watras/

A needle Ioniser does produce, but only a trace amount.

They were very fashionable for a while and sold with quack-like marketing. The long multiplier version was better suited to European voltages of 220V upwards.

My dad worked industrial machines, I remeber he came home explaining how they "clean" the air before sending back out of a glass plant. Part of that process was static electricity.

Raymond, those systems are known as electrostatic precipitators, they're relatively common in industrial plants

They were common in the '70s in South Africa, another 220V Country at the time. (Now 240V)

@@raymondmucklow3793 Electrostatic precipitators, they are used to remove fly ash and particulates from combustion systems etc.

I prefer my radioactive "things" to be encapsulated and not leave dust everywhere!

@@beware_the_moose in an ideal world😂

@Chris I guess that's where the made-up time Paradox comes from that about you don't gots always and almost every single time travel thing you see. Back to the Future Futurama all that stuff you know where they show up again and something happens

I'm surprised he didn't mention that. Non sleeved pins? Yes that would put a date on it. as well maybe he just forgot. He has mentioned something about slave pens before by the way. Then again here in the United States that was never required. I kind of doubt it ever will be. And I get most of our receptacles are rated at 120 volts or so. By the way the Australian plugs we used to use something like that here in the United States that were called Crowfoot plugs. and yes the Australian plugs would actually fit us Crowfoot plugs. But the thing about about the Crowfoot plugs. Is depending on where are you were and who put them in and for what purpose. They may not always be wired the same way. Even if they are. It could be either 120 volts or 220.. I can't again depending on the installation. This was before Nima standards. Also there were other interesting Outlets as well. Have you ever seen an outlet that has the two t-shaped slots. With the legs that come off the side going both ways. You do still see them in older buildings. They are what's called duel rated receptacles. That depending on the voltage they could be either red one car trading or another. Typically 10 amps or 15 amps. 120 voles ask you about 115 or 110 about then probably. At 15 amps. Or 220 volts or so at 10 amps. Same idea is the crofoot? The reason for this so-called The Duel rated receptacle was as follows. At one time lighting could only have a 10 amp circuit rating. This was ancient history in The Code by the way. But Power could sell 15 amps Plus. So 220 was used for lighting and those times. As well as other purposes but initially that was because of the lighting issues will probably only 10 amp circuits. However of course the 220 was used for other things as well. But back to the Lani issue. If you electrical well enough. People would know that you can get twice the available power in terms of Watts on 220 brother and 110 volts. At the same amperage. So essentially you would be doubling the amount of watts of lamps AKA Bo she could run from that receptacle or circuit. Kind of work around if you would. also I've heard of some old installations even in the United States Ancient history have seen a few places that have been wire for that one time. That might and power were metered separately. Also there were other plugs around prior to the stair Nema plugs. Which later on were used however they had a ground pin. For example one type of 220 plug That is still used to this day. Sometimes. Back then before that plug had a ground. It had to horizontal flat pins. like the steering 15 amp plug accept depends Twisted to decide all like the steering 15 amp plug accept depends Twisted 90°. And the thing is nowadays those exact plugs will fit into a 220 receptacle instead of 110 volts. But also those Outlets work could be either wired for 110 or 220 just like a crow foot and others. Also there were actually receptacles which had both the standard 110 volt plug and the ones of the pain straight across in the same receptacle. Occasionally even a duplex configuration. also those duplex Outlets that are handed both t-shaped slots I've seen those in both Kentucky and Tennessee homes. In both my grandparents places. And not all of them but in some rooms. On my grandparents side at The Farmhouse. I saw them in at least three rooms.??? for sure I saw one in the bathroom. by the way that bathroom was not original to the house. so it was actually newer than the rest of the house. Originally the bathroom was purple hallway. This is back previously they have an outhouse. that was when they first got indoor plumbing there. previously about the only indoor plumbing was a water supply pipe coming from the cistern to the pump on the kitchen sink. the cistern is actually below the dam. That's why there's one wall That's all cinder blocks and the rest is just a rock Foundation. Also has anyone seen anybody do this before. Also another question like that. something that I had seen on The Farmhouse I noticed it when I was real little too there were marbles pushed you into the Border of the foundation. Was this a thing back then? Was this just a one-off? Cool nonetheless. By the way that was Tennessee. And then after that they did not have a well but they had in the spring and a poop in it. Much much much later they wind up getting City Water even though it was way off in the boonies. and if I remember correctly the barn was still Connected to the pump in the spring. That's not the only place I know of that had a sisteron in at one time. e Kentucky as well a lot of my relatives their head old cisterns. and even the house my father lives in currently. But interesting Lee I think my grandmother's house was built the same time or before? but they always had city water. However they were only about two hundred feet or so from each other. As the crow flies.

With "violet discharge" you mean like sparks? So it would also produce ozone.

Needle Ionisers do produce trace ozone. Usually very little.

A mechanical hepa filter filters out much more dust and it doesn't expell potentially dangerous negative ions So just stick with the mechanical air filter and never think about these things ever again

@@MightyRude Thank you

@@MightyRude Dangerous negative ions LOL

@@CL-ty6wp I think you missed a word

They're just standard needles. These units rely on brute force voltage to cause ionisation of the air.

Search negative ion water stick.

If that's the pen one then I've already ordered one. Not for making tea though.

I've considered that, but it would have to be biased to Europe and other countries with 220V or higher.

@@bigclivedotcom Thanks for the reply Big Clive. Trevor.

What AC going to the needles? The output is DC.

Like this: amazon.com/Enerzen-Commercial-Industrial-Deodorizer-Sterilizer/dp/B00JAP7388/

The ozone generator usually applies high voltage at high frequency across a piece of insulating material to create a corona of fine sparks. That results in splitting of the oxygen into individual atoms which then randomly recombine into ozone and other gasses. It's a strong oxidiser like gaseous bleach as it tries to get rid of the extra oxygen atom. It's purely intended to get rid of airborne contaminants by destroying them. An ioniser is much gentler and safer in a populated area.

As I recall, ion generators can produce ozone. Since you don't want to be breathing ozone, that's a concern. I think the big difference is the amount of energy put into it. Too much voltage will create ozone. Too little produces nothing.

@@russellhltn1396 not significant enough amounts for it to matter

I purchased an ozone generator for use in chemical experiments manufacturing ozonides . This unit was sold as a water purifier for ponds and fish tanks and had a high ozone output. High ozone output units are sold for use on boats and caravans, where they are used to sterilise collected rain water for drinking. Ozone, unlike chlorine or chloramines, is effective in destroying cryptosporidium bacteria in water. I think my version use a hard UV source to generate the ozone, rather than a silent electrical discharge. I have not opened it up to investigate, as the plastic case appears to be ultrasonically welded to keep it closed. My unit has an air inlet and outlet, the inlet being designed to be fed with air from a pond air pump. All the air tubing used must be ozone proof plastic, as the normal polythene or silicon rubber tubing is rapidly attacked by the ozone generated. It is also important to switch the ozoniser off before the air pump, to stop ozone leaking back into the pump, thus destroying the pump valves and bellows. Such is the volume of output from the device, I have been able to use it as a room steriliser. After a few minutes, a small room can be filled with ozone gas to the point where it would be very unwise to breath the air, and exposed metal surfaces become rapidly tarnished.

That's how those units were supplied decades ago.

@@Kevin-mp5of True, but sometimes, he does educate. Just a matter of taste I guess.

@@Kevin-mp5of, You do have a good point.

There are industrial Ionisers that put out both polarities to dissipate static at electronic work stations.

That was normal it's only recently that they were shrouded.

@@dogwalker666 Recent!? You sure? Pretty sure they've been shrouded for several decades.

PipeManPeep these have been around for at least 50 years the shrouded have been the norm in the last 10 then you get the chinesium shrouded earth for extra safety lol

@@dogwalker666 yeah, curiosity got the better of me, so I looked it up. The partially insulated pins have been in use since the mid 70s. I've seen so many defects on Chinese plugs that I now inspect all new devices I see. I'm always boring people with lists of what's wrong with their plugs, like: Earth not long enough. No fuse Too small Earth sleeved Line and neutral not sleeved. Aluminium used instead of copper No kite mark Fake kite mark No finger grip Earth not connected.

PipeManPeep indeed i always pay test new equipment and as you say most fails even big name brands had a brand new bosh 110v angle grinder with loose plug wires and Earth leaking armature. RIP BS kite mark.

You would potentially be connected to either the mains or the transformers high voltage output via a string of diodes. It could give a significant shock to ground.

I know of a dude on RU-vid that does this crap I think his channel is called electroboom I bet he’d try it

@@howtowithelizabeth7513 Electroboom isn't that stupid. Most of his stuff is staged when it comes to the shocks, he's pretty sensible

please, include the formula for we who are voltage impaired, here in the US of A, where a day when we get the full 125 volts are rare indeed and 110 volts are the norm. Lights flicker, well we who horded the wonderful bulbs developed by Edison that still have a tungsten filament instead of the new LED's Sure we pay a bit more in the power bill but the light is still that wonderful glow we grew up with.

It may just need new needles. It sounds like one of the curved quack Ionisers that makes ingestible ions. (It's just an ordinary Ioniser).

@@bigclivedotcom Yes it is the Elanra, i paid big spondula for it too. but for some reason it worked for me. and when the needles needed replacing, i would feel worse.

All you need is 1 extra row as its a multiplier so 120V times 2 is already 240V

I think he ingested actual radioactive water.

Shoe fitting fluoroscope is the full name of that device. Also this comment contains Wikipedia links were most things people have brought up in these comments on this video as well. Also out of all of previous comments. Wikipedia 3 Wikipedia links. Shoe fitting fluoroscope. Radiation quack related. And also negative ion generator. By the way on that one Discovery Channel antiques restoration show can't remember which one at the moment. Did they did feature one as well as an X-ray tech came through with that as well. By the way I can't remember exact figures but it seemed like it was close to 10 times or maybe even a hundred times the safe level for x-rays that was coming out of it. And that was on certified instruments. Also the device was modified to have light bulbs that would shine through x-ray film of people's feet. And now for that Wikipedia link. Here you go for anyone interested. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe-fitting_fluoroscope?wprov=sfla1 Oh and by the way on radiation and Quack stuff. Ditto. Wikipedia link below. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_quackery?wprov=sfla1 Negative ion generator. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser?wprov=sfla1 Bonus Wikipedia links. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionized_jewelry?wprov=sfla1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_ionizer?wprov=sfla1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_air_ionization_therapy?wprov=sfla1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionized-air_glow?wprov=sfla1 Related somewhat to above. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Elmo%27s_fire?wprov=sfla1l en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radithor?wprov=sfla1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_ore_Revigator?wprov=sfla1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_radiation_therapy?wprov=sfla1 There you go for anyone interested.

I remember seeing one of these in a shoe store back in ‘63 in New York State. It was still being used (not on me).

Looks like it's a 50 mega-atto fuse, so... 5x10^-11 of something! :P I also love buying drinks at the convenience store that come in 500 megaliter bottles. Really good deal for the price!

When you've flown out to the conversion center of your Dyson Sphere, the last thing you want to find out is you forgot to bring a 50MA fuse, and have to jam a spare battleship or skyscraper in the hole to get the lights back on. Breakers are a great invention, indeed.

@@deltab9768 Oh I'm sure Scotty has done that more than once.