Now that's a match up!!! Loving the Tesla content guys!!! Keep up the great work!!! TFL stay pushing out great content day after day after day!!! Loving the energy!!!
@@willreed6155 nobody has mentioned in comments this is at 5k feet why gasser is so slow...the Tesla is SAME at 10k feet as sea level. On mean streets of seal level the Redeye will put 10 cars on the Electric
This video has me torn. I just spent 3 years driving a Scatpack and absolutely loved the car to death but I’ve got a performance model 3 now and it’s just acceleration on a completely different level. I miss the hell out of the sound of that Hemi but I don’t miss spending nearly $200 a month on fuel.
@@I-Teee Yeah no kidding. My wife has an XC60 with the 4 cylinder turbo motor and it is pretty fuel efficient for an SUV but still costs like $80 for a full tank.
Isn't that the whole point of technology, to make things that were complex simple? When was the last time you adjusted your HD TV? Never. With analog TVs you had to adjust the color balance, the antenna, the scan lock. A Tesla is to ICEVs as an HD TV is to an analog TV.
@@carholic-sz3qv Are you still using a sliderule? When I was in highschool we had to get a sliderule for a science class, fortunately for me the first portable four function calculators hit the market that year and I managed to talk my father into buying me one even though it was incredibly expensive ($400 in 1970, he paid $2800 the same year for a Chevy Biscayne just to give you a measure of the value of a 1970 dollar). When the future arrives you embrace it. I've never driven a manual in my life, they've been obsolete for 60 years. When I was young the apologists for manuals said they were more efficient, that's not true any more so even sports cars like the C8 Corvette don't offer them. Internal combustion engines are obsolete, electric drive is better in every way except range and that's a problem that's will be gone entirely in just a few years.
Actually, they both have the same useful horsepower. The difference is the extra horsepower on the hellcat is used to create noise, wheelspin and smoke! 😁😁😁
Trackhawk vs model Y next. A rwd nearly 800hp muscle car clearly won’t ever be able to match awd it’s not even fair because your not even getting enough heat in the tires. It’s more fair to put a suv that hits 3.5 every launch then a rwd muscle car that slides and hits 60 in 5 seconds cuz no traction then it’s over because there’s no space to catch up
I have a MYP. It’s awesome in day to day driving and off the line at a stop light, I win. The issue is those massive HP gas engines are still far more capable over a longer distance! Love the video gentlemen!!
@@Superman-xr1oh off the line it’s fast as f*^k! When you’re doing 75 and want to punch it, it’s still instant but there’s a definite difference in that power. Had this car since last June though and wouldn’t change a thing. I’m looking at the model X now though for more space.
Easy to have consistency when you have AWD. If your mom can race it, it isn’t a real car. A real car takes a skilled driver to outrun everyone else. You’re comparing a cowboy riding a bull for 8 seconds to your saloon cowgirl riding a mechanical bull.
Here in Edmonton which is 2300 feet above sea level (if you guys are in Colorado you understand the elevation disadvantage when it comes to running good times), regular Hellcats run in the 10s. However most of them are running at least a drag radial like a Nitto 555R. If you guys had street tires on that Redeye you'd have to put some serious heat into them to make them hook up, and that's only if the track prep for the day was really good. I imagine you guys didn't want to torch your rear tires too much with multiple long burnouts. The Hellcat is by far the faster car but it takes some skill and good tires to get it off the line clean. As a side note though, Teslas are awesome and it's cool how they are opening peoples eyes to the potential performance electric cars can offer!
Thanks. We’re at over 5000 feet above sea level. At Bandimere we saw most with hellcats running Hoosier racing slicks. Most folk don’t get how challenging it is to launch a Hellcat and just how much hp power you lose @mile above sea level. All the bad driver comments come from people who have never tried to launch a Hellcat let alone do it on a drag strip in Denver.
The Fast Lane Car yep. Everyone thinks drag racing is easy until they actually go to a track and can’t figure out why they can’t come close to hitting any good times.
Drivetrain, tire compound, rim size, ride height, and weight distribution are all bigger factors than electric vs gas. Big reason why the 911 Turbo S has always been getting faster and faster, they have the formula figured out, but all that's left is for technology to advance.
@@Oirentals its not just about drag racing (well maybe with a hellcat it is...). RWD cars feel nicer to drive than AWD cars. Theres still a persistent rumour that the P85+ is the best driving tesla there is.
There is no fun in watching run-after-run by highly trained professional drivers. I want to see what would happen if I got onto a drag strip...Thanks Andre, fun video!
15 second passes in a hellcat is a little embarrassing. Funny video though, none the less. With some decent tires and a good launch the hellcat should be doing high 11s. Should have brought a mustang 😉
That's the point. You need to be a very good to drive helcat straight where with Tesla a grandmother can beat and good driver. Shows how much better Tesla is for normal drivers.
@@sigor2011 that's because the hellcat has way more torque than the tesla,it's rear wheel driven unlike the tesla which is all wheel drive.Plus they didn't turn launch control on for the hellcat
ICE tech: Fake engine sound, fake vents, fake exhaust tips, emissions testing defeating equipment Tesla tech: Most efficient, fastest accelerating, easiest to maintain, safest cars in the world
@@directorjustin to make the batteries : not efficient. And most safe isn't Tesla. I bet you my Hummer H1 would be safer in every aspect. Even my h3 which got 5 stars as well
@@floof4444 That's not a true statement. Let's start with the waste generated by ICE vehicles everyday. Emissions: look at the orange smog in the horizon, diesel truck owners who think it's cool to purposely belch out black smoke. Try standing in the pit area of a top fuel dragster. This country generates over 200 million gallons of used motor oil per year that is disposed of improperly in landfills, sewers, and the ocean. These facts alone proves ICE vehicles are obsolete. We won't even discuss the pollution generated by refining oil into gasoline, transporting fuel. And speaking of batteries, what happens to the used batteries we dispose of every day?
@@lvlionsfan5492 Well, electric cars are not as efficient as you think, gas cars emit 6-7 metric tons from factory, as for example, an average car like a toyota corolla or honda civic emit 270 grams per mile, average miles driven in gas car is 13,500, gas cars emit 3.6 metric tons a year, average to keep a car is 6 years, gas cars emit 28.6 metric tons during its life time including factory emissions, electric cars like tesla model 3 averages 13 metric tons from factory, tesla model 3 has 264 miles mid range, emits 85 kg per kwh, battery size is 65 kwh, tesla model 3 emits 300 grams per mile inside these coal powerplants, that means model 3 emits 4 metric tons each year, which would mean 37 metric tons in 6 years in total including factory emissions.
As a muscle car fan, I am astounded at how fast that “grocery getter econobox looking” electric car is. Amazing. Can you imagine a purpose built “red eye Tesla” muscle car in the future?
@Ed Gillis Actually, FCA will be electrifying most of the new cars within the next 5 yrs. In fact, they’ve already pumping out hybrid and electric vehicles. The Challenger and Charger were specifically mentioned as well as future performance models. I love hybrid performance vehicles. They give you the best of both worlds.
@@Sak-zo1ui you think generating 800 hp for 1/4 mile wouldn’t reduce range by more than 6 miles? Then the Hellcat would be grossly inefficient if it needed that amount of energy to go 6 miles. The Tesla is super efficient which is why it can go 6 miles (24 times the distance) on the energy it used for 1/4 of a mile. Especially considering the Tesla uses far less energy.
Sounds like someone is salty waiting hours to charge and having anxiety trying to find a charge station with a hotel. I’ll take the internal combustion any day until you can top off my electricity in 2 minutes.
Bet the Red Eye lost way more than 6 miles of range per run. Re-gen, low cost of electricity per mile, no oil changes, no transmission fluid changes, and virtually no required maintenance, means the Tesla is way cheaper to run each race. Plus virtually no wear and tear on the drivetrain means a high-mileage car keeps it's performance better than a high mileage internal combustion engine.
I can tell you love those teslas. Make sure you've got your Rock Hudson designer jeans on with the rainbow flag and the zipper in the back and the knee pads in the front. And also make sure you wear your tree hugger t-shirt. After all I'll be wearing a Mopar shirt and my car will have 1500 horsepower at the wheels there is no replacement for displacement. You take that electric Tesla and you put it against a 2000 horsepower drag Mustang or a 4000 horsepower funny car. You're going to get the paint peeled off of that Tesla. There is no replacement for displacement!
You will never get that Tesla to sound like a cammed out Dodge Challenger or a Ford Mustang 5.0 with Flowmaster 40 series exhaust and H pipes. You're just never going to get the whale of that muscle car out of that little shit box George Jetson mobile
@@robd1859 Rob, did you really just try to prove you're better than someone else by telling them that an unmodified Tesla will never be as fast as a ridiculously modified Mustang or a professional dragster?
That’s also in real life what you’re saying in any car. Maintenance will always lose against these EV cars no matter how much a Tesla cost. It still comes out ahead and savings.
" I used 6 miles of range there." I used to do that with my Nissan leaf, I could beat someone off the line going to work, but I'd have to skip lunch because I couldn't drive that far.
Yup, one thing that is consistent in all these videos with hellcats and demons is people who even drive cars for a living have a hard time getting them to hook up right. Hell, even if you watch those illegal drag racing videos, they routinely get smoked off the line because they can't hook up.
@BLACKVIEW USA And I doubt that Tesla put in amazing motors which are just held back by software. Heck I even doubt that the hardware is capable of stage 5 self driving. Some Tesla fanboys are just ridiculous.
Don't be jealous people all in all these are media reviewers and they're testing them on track. I'm a car guy but I have never been to a drag strip in my life. So lmao. Quit being jealous people.
@@greygoose4x46 This is true. Though in terms of Drag racing this really isn't an issue when your just trying to get a perfect time. Interesting that they mentioned it.
WAAAAAY different from what I expected, and in real world, the Y will win every time at the stop light races, but on the highway, will get SMASHED above 100
"Smashed above 100" ROFL. Illegal speeding. If getting spanked by a Tesla SUV on the onramp and going over 100 soothes your ego from the ass whooping hopefully highway patrol will take care of you.
To go fast in the Hellcat you need to know how to hook up an ICE drive train and that takes a lot of practice, a serious skill set. I learned to drive in a truck with no synchromesh and I can double declutch like a wizard. I can also do Morse code but, unfortunately, neither have any practical application any more. It's frustrating getting old and watching skill sets become redundant but, on the other hand, there are compensations. I can have superior acceleration in an EV every time and I've got a smart phone. Hello 21st century.
“Using up 6 or 7 miles per run” ⬆️ And you think your ICE car doesn’t? You do realize that car burns gas even while idling and going nowhere. From Hellcat.org: “Range drops like a rock - *during idling.* www.hellcat.org/threads/dte-dropped-like-a-rock-during-idle-can%E2%80%99t-be-real.127641/
This video is like comparing a cowboy trying to ride a bull for 8 seconds to a saloon cowgirl riding a mechanical bull. Takes a skilled driver to drive a car with that much power. You could put a grandma in that Tesla and run those same times. Easy to do with AWD and tons of electronics controlling everything.
If you put a top fuel dragster on street tires, it'll also lose to the Tesla. What's the point of this? On street tires in good conditions this car runs mid 11's, on slicks it runs mid 10's.
You may have missed an interesting opportunity. The hellcat engine consumes 1.5gallons per minute at WOT. Which one of these vehicles would be drained first after repeated runs?
@@ReimerKeith A Tesla can replenish 16 miles a minute on a supercharger at 250Kw. That means you only need to plug in for ~22 seconds to replenish what it used per race. That means the Tesla will be filled before you finish paying to even start the pump on the Hellcat.
@@Bryan46162 Perhaps. But I suspect that max acceleration quarter miles consume more than a normal quarter mile of battery. Assuming there is a supercharger at the drag strip.
As a car reviewer I would assume you should know reaction time has 0 to do with your quarter mile time. You could sit there for 13 seconds and still run a 12 second 1/4.
It's incredibly amazing, and equally terrifying, that a relatively affordable family SUV is roaming the streets and capable of 3.5 0-60 times. AWD with 500lb of instant torque isn't a joke. Not many cars out there you'll lose to at a stop light.
Ultimate soccer mom car: Drive the kids to school, load it up with groceries from Costco and emasculate men in a Dodge Challenger Hellcat Redeye on the way back home.
Agreed. All of those launches on the hellcat were awful. A golf gti could of smoked that second hellcat run. No disrespect to tesla. They've made a hell of a vehicle (clearly one that is able to handhold lousy drivers) but there is no point to these runs if the driver cant get the best out of the car.
It’s annoying to know these Teslas can go insanely fast but you never experience that out in the wild. I always have to keep passing them on my commute. It’s like they are always limping along.😄
I have a Y performance and I limp along also. I don’t accelerate from the light to fast because it makes my brain wonky! I thought the mustangs I owned (8) of the them ( 04 cobra, 2012 Boss 302 , 03 Mach 1 and 2017 Gt 350 just to name a few had good acceleration. Then I test drove the model 3 performance and model y performance and I was amazed how fast and hard they accelerate! I was hooked and traded in my great sounding Gt 350 for the more practical Model Y performance. No regrets.
Again a high end combustion engine car cannot beat the future. I can understand people liking how the engine sounds but honestly electric cars are the future of performance cars.
The Model S Plaid coming out this year does sub-9s the 1/4! Consistently, no extreme skills required, just mash the go pedal and hold on. And it does 1.9 to 60 mph. What cars can do that for $140k?
@@levitrevisan2834 nothing. I think electric cars are really nice for daily use and just going from place to place. But when it comes to performance, electric cars don’t have the same emotional and interactive experience that non-electric cars have. This makes many people not as interested in them.
Red eye should break 10’s with a good driver. Call that 11 flat at sea level. NHRA altitude adjustment factor of .9354 at 5200’ puts you at 11.7. Getting destroyed by 12+ second car? Bad driving, intentionally or not. Try launch control and 18 psi in the rear tires. Brake torquing is the worst thing you could do in a red eye unless you are looking for burnouts.
A streetcar that can't launch properly just sucks out of the factory. So it needs to get prepped making it unfair. Like, you don't compare a prepped car vs a no-prep car. Prepped=at least tires but usually also a bit of suspensions and a stabilizer.
All the gearheads I've ever known all new that when electric motors got the battery technology to deliver the electricity to them gasoline engines are done more power more torque less parts a lot less parts
I heard interesting thing from a local car dealer about the car top speed limit in China. The government's plan is to set the top speed at 150km/h for all (EV) cars, the ETC reader will also become mandatory in all cars, and it can monitor your top speed by using the 5G network. So basically, when you enter a main road and drive under the speed camera gates it will know the car is on the road, who is driving (your mobile phone gives that away), and ETC can measure your top speed even you drive a 30 years old VW Santana. When you drive through the next toll gate you might get a surprise charge.
Track mode is for a road racing not drag racing. You need the suspension to transfer as much weight as possible to the rear by using the suspension in street mode. Traction in sport mode. Everything else in track mode.
Keep in mind the wheel/tire setup on the MYP is 68lbs and the charger still lost lmao. Looking forward to seeing an electric GTR or even a electric variant of America’s classic muscle cars.
Breaking my heart with the redeye in the 12s :P. Hellcat is a challenging drag car but so much fun when you get it down. I can't say anything my first run ever was 12s, then was doing better as the day progressed got into the 11s
Over 30 years of owning nothing but rwd v8's. Most of them modified. Never the slightest interest in owning anything other than a v8 (no matter how many turbos you stick on it). This past weekend I took a trip from LA to Vegas and decided to rent a Tesla Model Y. Never driven or even rode in a hybrid or EV before. Well, after living with that Tesla over the weekend I am SOLD. Aside from all the cool features and technology inside the car, that instant full torque is something I will NEVER get tired of. The Model Y I rented wasn't a "Performance" model, and it was clear the car is completely neutered off the line. From 15-20 mph and above though that thing SNAPS. I can't even image what the Performance version or the Model 3 and S must feel like.
Boy are the Challenger fanboys upset, take this for what it is. You got two average guys in two great cars showing you some stark contrast between two sides of automotive engineering. Stick an average guy in a Tesla, you can beat Challengers all day long. Stick an average guy in a Challenger, make him stain his pants and sweat.
@@TFLcar how about you do a roll race which is where most highway passing happens and the Tesla is toast. Or put a skilled driver in the Hellcat like Demonology, RacerX, BMason, or SRTMUSH and the Tesla has zero chance.
@@rhett7716 plenty of Hellcat owners have run high 10's at the strip. Anyone who can drive at all would wreck the Tesla Model 3 on a dragstrip. Anyone who can drive doesn't burnout for the first 100ft and blame the car. Edit: the Model Y is slower then the Model 3 incase you didn't know.
So much shade in the comments! Sheesh. I for one appreciate the candid video. Makes the point for me I always harp on - speed is a commodity now. It’s not important off a drag strip when a mommy-mobile will blow your doors off in real world driving. Also, tires. It’s a press car, so 1) no drag radials and 2) it’s likely a contractual no-no for them to do a burnout in the box before the race (and even if they did they couldn’t put it in the video).
it would have been awesome in a roll race at the drag strip. A 40 roll would be interesting, I think at 40 the Hellcat would still struggle a bit with wheel-spin but would catch up nicely to the Tesla.