"Not so easy to time when DPS are under me as tank" | Dorki 

^this honestly. I play 2 healers atm, and ive ended up above dps players in overall damage numerous times.

I've seen a couple guildies link runs with ppl in the 30-40k range. Pretty wild to see.

The top players have no idea how bad the community is. It's really bad it's full of people that think the game is what it used to be and if it isn't they don't adapt.

I haven't played DF since the end of season 1 but I've still been reading up on the game and it seems that main, Frost DK has always struggled with ST but excel at cleave/burst aoe which is what mythic + is mostly about. I feel like a good frost DK is still worth bringing for the clean trash.

@@xazer649 breath can do good single target/aoe but it needs really high uptime which isnt always achievable. its why most play obliteration in keys but the issue with obliteration is that it suffers a lot in st, on tyr weeks specifically

how tf did a 400 ilvl ret pally get into a 16

But even worse the range below, many players think oh just a +12 or +13, and then they fail miserably. And yes happens quite a lot being in PUG for shards farming (+16) and they had much higher RIO and gear but I'm ahead of them (DH).

Looks pretty staged imho.

@@peterpain6625 I don't think it was staged.. You can actually get groups like that on a 15... But, as Drexxel said, it's not all the time, he got lucky.

@@filipepaivazoega3669 True. I made that comment out of context i suppose: I don't think it was staged either. I'm chainrunning 13-15s and that group would be like heaven. I've seen people in 13/15s that definitely don't belong there... Guess i'm just jealous of Dorky getting a decent one ;)

@@peterpain6625 you are 100% fine, and I also agree with you... Sometimes on my alts I do run with people that do have exp, usually they are on their alts as well. This group here its either staged, or he was lucky as hell.. Doesn't happen that often... 15s are hell, trust me.

​@@peterpain6625staged lmao, just check ppl logs and invite only strong players.

Kinda wondered that as well... What's the pull timer required? Everyone just does 10 since it gives time for people to wake up and pop anything that they need to use

I prefer when Growl and Max do it and deplete every key.

@@kye4216 Yeah. One could probably try 20 times, leave 19 and post a video about the one the works.

That's the most confusing thing about this video wtf

True did 13 underrot leader qas spriest 428 ilvl... after first pulls he noticed he had raid talents.. so i ask him wheres your singletarget dps then? 60k burst singletarget... overall he did 29k

Why do they rage

​@@erichall090909 2 days ago I had a guy ragequit and say 'key is dead guys all leaves' after our DH died to the frontal from nelths lair first boss

​@@mattcorr5597 had a guy the other day that in bracken first pull said this group is doomed while we killed it without anything happen, keeps getting more and more toxic without any reason, we get to first boss he doesn't do the tank mechanics let's people die to charge, doesn't interrupt heal ( he was a paladin which has I million interrupts) so I kicked him from group and ignored him... My list of ignores this season is rapidly increasing does it have a limit tho

Okay maybe commented a tad too soon, still solid effort!

Came across your stream accidentally yesterday. Don't you play unholy

@@lecommenter8528 unholy in raid, frost in M+ generally

Whats funny is all tanks except for bloods self healing breakdown looks like that at the end. Maybe not monk depending on how much healer attention it has. Like on my monk for example ill be 60k hps overall healer like 45k but I'm least healed on his overall.

My hily pally beats that with just consecration lol

Oh i feel you. I was close to gnawing my own wrists tanking those **shudders** ;)

its compounded by the fact that people are farming crests in the 11-15 range so they are getting their keys boosted for free. It's really been a horrible couple weeks in this range.

Could be multi boxing too

Going afk doesnt mean you are bad at the game xd

@@opmami he wasn't afk just a jerk who wanted us to carry his ass. He moved his character just didn't do anything

I thought he went afk as u described. Anyways i think he still could get loot from the dung in mail if you finished it, after you kicked, happened with me long time ago when we kicked some1 and none of us got loot (so prob that guy got it)

The trick is to reroll to another plate class.

@@poopfeast69 So paladin then?

@PerilOS Shouldn't they buff dks then to have some utility that is sought after? Besides a combat res that both pala and druid got.

​​@@Mad_Peasant_King dk is not that bad, you can't get into higher keys cause you haven't done them, you q to one and they see you haven't done anything above 9 in season 1 no one will ever take you, that how the game works also 415 in this current season extremely low ilvl. My suggestion is find a guild and join guild keys getting rating is really easy this season

Ppl watch 2 things, your ilvl and score, class doesn't matter until +20. Make your own key, no one will invite a 415 ilvl when 5 430 ilvl applies at the same time

Hows that possible😂😂

@@inmysoul7 i would maybe do it without any talent points

true people hyper fixate on dmg over playing the game

@@Dorki 100%! You can save the group and still time the key if you prioritize correctly. Healers and tanks appreciate it.

its just a part of elvui's inspect panel. if you want the same thing without elvui looks like theres one called inspect ilvl redux. welcome to the game :p

1 month later I’m still interested in the same question I feel stupid now cause I use that one too :(

Yeah.... I was not doing dps like that at 408 ilvl. Time to watch more guides I geuss.