Can we please clone this man as a breeder? The ongoing care for his dogs and the ironclad contract to protect them is incredible. They are beautiful dogs. Thanks for sharing.
Be careful. Homo sapiens' genetic diversity is greatly reduced compared other mammalian species. You will quickly risk overbreeding leading to physical and mental problems. And humans are already mentally unstable and physically weak as it is. Luckily, they make up with it in intelligence which means that with a lot of hard work, we could train a new generation to be just as kind and caring
This man is the absolute model of a responsible dog breeder. It infuriates me to see the things some breeders and show people have done, mostly for financial gain -- they have little to no regard for the dogs' welfare. I salute you, Kian, and your magnificent dogs!
For, four decades, I've had Doberman. Without a doubt this man has used the breed. I get the same intense stares daily. I've never thought a Doberman mixed with any other breed looked good, but whatever this man worked in there is actually pleasing. I cannot unsee the Doberman though, lol.
Same, I also see Staffi or Pitt in there. Beautiful dogs, I just lost my 15 year old Pitt on my birthday and I'm finally starting to think that it's time to start looking for my new friend. I'm looking for some acreage to put a homestead on, and they might make a good fit. Lots of land/farm to run around, and keep watch over, then curl up in a comfy bed inside. I guess that I wouldn't need it to be trained like cops or military might, protecting their family and land, and letting us know if bears or wolves are heading our way...black bears aren't that big but they can get really aggressive if they think food is involved. Two females would probably work well together.
Don't tell what you put together to create such a beautiful athletic working dog because you'll have so many backyard breeders destroying the breed! They are known for that! Absolutely stunning! Great job! 🤍
No one worried about them becoming the next band breed.. look at XL Bully in uk at the moment .. beautiful dogs but the wrong people buy them for the wrong reason
No. They're not popular or even common. Most likely the pups will be super expensive and outside of a few individuals they'll be lucky to make it to UK shores. Breeds like this tend to have very dedicated breeders who don't sell pups as a quick buck or an accessory for the buyer.
It’s not the foundation breeders I would be worried about, copy cats looking to make a quick bit of cash regardless of what monstrosity look alike they create are the real threat.
All I see is Doberman. I had two doberman both makes Zeus and Apollo fantastic dogs. Both passed away a few years ago aged 12 and 14 from brain problems they were loving caring dogs, but many people had an instant fear of them, they were great around children. I still miss them both. These dogs being shown are beautiful. ❤from Scotland.
The irony is that the Dobermann was developed by Louis Dobermann in the 1890s motivated by the exact same considerations that Kian is working with. In fact, his dogs in fact still seem to look a little like modern Dobermans. The Doberman, too, is an entirely "artificial" breed. Louis Dobermann was a municipal dog catcher, among other things, and his job gave him access to a large variety of breeds to work with in his search for the "ideal" protection dog. I still think Dobermans today are unique.
The Canem Belli is another super interesting protection breed you should do a video on! The kennel/RU-vid channel is Elite Boerboels out of Italy. He breeds working line Boerboels & Alabai plus a few others, but he did the same thing. He took the best examples of a few breeds who excel in the traits he wanted/wants & created the Canem Belli. They look similar to these dogs & also perform, listen & are easily trained the same as well. Should definitely go to his kennel & do a video on his working line Boerboels, Alabai and the Canem Belli!
Kian you are incredible for what you are doing. 👏🏻 I am tired of looking at very unhealthy and unatural breeds. This dog is like a Mallinois and Cane Corso in one.
i'd stay away from doberman lines as they're an unhealthy mess. i bet he used german pinscher, lots of malinois, some pitbull and beauceron and maybe a touch of whippet.
Yes Doberman is in the breed but there's a whole lot more because Doberman do not have this level of courage because they been bred down due to show breeders. These dogs have Dutch shepherd, Belgian malinois, working line German shepherd, doberman, American pitbull terrier, mastiff, and bulldog breeds in them. It takes several several generations of careful genetic selection to start getting a foundation and then you go from there
This man is exactly what a dog breeder should be. Ive just got a GSD puppy and the breeder matched me with my pup and for the first time ever I'll be havibg a boy dog ❤
We rehomed a male that get considerably bigger 3 yrs ago. Hubby moaned we didn't need another dog, (long story 😂). Named him Sampson cause he actually drug me about 3 ft. He worships my husband almost a stalker syndrome.. They are awesome but I've only had the privilege of having 3.. Good luck
@LisaMadden-qd7ko thank you. I've had dogs since I was 8 and I foster too but I think a puppy's going to be a whole other level 😂 I've puppy proffed my house as best I can, booked in for puppy training etc I'm hoping I won't get dragged 3ft though! Samsons a lovely name
Will the cool thing is there is German Shepherd in these dogs. There's Dutch shepherd, Belgian malinois, working line German shepherd, various Mastiff breeds, touch of great dane, doberman, some bulldog, and American pitbull terrier
Have a wonderful life with your boy dog! ❤ I've had both male and female GSD/s, all of which I've gotten from GSD rescues. Some people might argue against linking temperament to gender, but my girls were a little bossier and more independent, while the boys were very sweet and stuck to me like glue (i.e., never a moment alone in the bathroom). I wish you and your dog all the best!
@quackslikeaduck ob thank you. He's an absolute delight and he's so laid bck for a pup! I know what you mean about girl dogs I've got an elderly patterdale terrier, she's female, and she can be a moody little madam but this boy wants to play, sleep and cuddle and he's already following me everywhere. I think all breeders should pick the puppy because they've had them since birth and have watched their temperaments emerge.
This breeder is what all breeders should strive for - love of the breed & the best for each individual dog. What a joy this man is & the care he has towards his dogs shows. Not only are they amazingly gorgeous, agile, powerful, etc., but the loving face when looking at you put tears in my eyes!! 💕🐾💕🐾
Yeah totally, I think all breeders should create breeds jk🤦♂ They need to make it harder to breed dogs legally. So many goof balls just trying to make a quick buck. (most breeders). This guy does do it good, but I dont agree. How many breeds do you want? Im not being rude, im just passionate about this subject...
@@amandamurphy8410 why the apprehension ? There are many dogs like the Doberman where it’s known what other breeds were used to create it . Most people don’t have the dedication to create a new well established breed .
This is always the case for each episode, but this one stands out for some reason. Not only are the dogs truly beautiful, but so are the humans, both outside and in. Must be the magic of Canada, with all the snow and easy going energy!
The magic of Canada, maybe, but that magic is beginning to slip away with Trudeau at the helm! You can no longer even possess firearms of any kind. Regards, Denis Berte' USMC
Beautiful breed! Funny how these pure working breeds have the astonishing looks that no 'show breeds' have. Looking in their eyes you can see how balanced assured and confident they are. Outstanding work! this man needs recognition for his work.
I agree with you for the most part you are absolutely correct. However that said, the working lines of X herders and working line German Shepherds are stunning absolutely stunning and much better looking than their show line counterparts
Huh? Show breeds are well bred dogs that go onto pet homes or performance homes. The average person does not have the time to own a working dog unless they need one on a farm. Dogs shown in conformation are just being proved they meet breed standard and can move well etc. They are also health tested etc. Most show breeders put other titles on them like performance titles. I have a dog from a “show breeder” and he’s health tested with amazing temperment and the breeder has put lots of titles on her dogs. He’s also very stable and confident and I have his lineage. My husband is using him as a hunting retriever. He has the drive but it’s not so extreme he can’t live inside the home. People use the word “show breeder” too dismissively. Dogs are shown in conformation to prove they are worthy to be bred. They are being proven that they move well and have good structure. They are proven that they are stable. Solid breeders are also competing in performance. They are doing way more than back yard breeders and the dogs are typically very stable. Working dogs are too extreme to live in the average pet home. That’s how you end up with shelters full of the same breeds. And shelter dogs are never dogs coming from showlines. They are either bully mixes or these days Malinois. Show breedings aren’t breeding for “looks”. They are breeding to preserve the breed, for the love of the breed, and showing them to prove they are worthy of continuing the line. Society has changed and working dogs aren’t needed as much due to technological advancements. But these breeders love their chosen breed and wish to continue it. People are confused about what showing is. You can get a show line or golden from a show breeder and have it be your hunting partner. The difference is a field lab won’t settle down in your home.. a show line lab will have a nice off switch. I would never go with a breeder that doesn’t prove their dog in conformation. But I will also make sure they are putting other titles on the dogs as well. Most solid breeders are.
@@ComboMusterwell if you are going with a show line Gsd- it’s typically because you want an actual herder. They aren’t breeding for looks lol. You just think they are because you are misinformed. The working line gsds have way too much drive and are being bred to have too much aggression and too much prey drive which isn’t suitable for a farm. Also, people looking for a pet Gsd will go with showline as working is just too intense. West German showline dogs are very stable dogs without too much prey drive. They are also tested in shutshund and just enough dog for a family.
The dogs are truest gorgeous and beautiful, they look strong, powerful and healthy. I love your videos very much and here Anneka is great as usual. But for me this episode look more like an ad of this man. You say a lot about the importance of health and working qualities of the dog, but in the video we see and hear about the appearance mostly. Yes, they do some obedience, biting work and other stuff, but there are many other breeds that can do this and very good at it. We don’t hear anything about the evidence of the breeder’s words, what about genetic tests and illnesses, how long do they live, maybe some awards in competitions and so on? Actually, any breeder can say the same as in the video about their dogs. Why is the selecting process so secret? Why can’t you be more specific about the breeds and lines you used? It’s not a pie recipe, no one will steal that and copy. Now it looks more like marketing. I’d be happy to be wrong and really hope that the new breed is healthy and good.
Great dogs !!!!! It's obvious that Dobermans are the base of this mixed breed (probably 80%) and one can recognize some Belgian mallinos and black Great Dane In them too. To me... these dogs are what the Doberman use to be 80 years ago
I have a doberman x American staffy. She looks very similar to these dogs. Same face snout, overall build. Super similar. However im in Australia and cropping and docking is illegal. She is the most intelligent, protective, confident well behaved dog ive ever had. Super well behaved and just the best dog you could ever have. She is definitely the fastest dog ive ever seen aswell. Crazy athletic. She loves little kids and had nothing but a desire to please and protect.
There's a whole lot more than just that. There's various Shepherd breeds, working line German shepherd, Belgian malinois, Dutch shepherd, American pitbull terrier, doberman, various Mastiff breeds and maybe some bulldog breeds and a touch of great dane. Possibly some whippet as well
That's because their not lol. I've been following best of both worlds for years. All he did was breed a female XL Bully to a male doberman. & She's trying to make this major point that it's not a canis panther. I disagree. Any bull breed bred with a doberman your gonna get similar results. This is his version of a canis panther.
I'll stick with my Presa canario breed. Gentle as a microfiber cloth with my kids and no joke anywhere else. Greatest dog I've ever had. And nothing like the b.s. I read online. Accept for the guard part they are definitely that.
@@RobBarker225th I'm looking for a boerbel to add to my guardian mix now. Be a bad ass mix is have. All my dogs are intact males and I have very little issues with any aggression. The breed gets a bad rap online but I personally have none of the issues I read about.
@@RobBarker225th I always said that too but my favorite breed no matter how hard you work with them will always kill little critters and that's pit bulls. Lovem to death but it's an inherent instinct that can't be stopped. got one right now that I caught eating rabbits twice last week. We have a farmstead and my birds learned quick to stay out of the front yard. great dogs otherwise. But yes any dog in the wrong hands will always be blamed.
Some of the dogs shown have a short upper arm and over angulated (and some under angulated rears) both of which affect the top line which will lead to usage injuries and joint problems. They will wear out in the long term and contribute to a shorter lifespan. Hopefully the breeder brings in individuals that will help correct this.
What would you attribute the inconsistency of their top line to?.. would you say it could be a result of mix breeding? Or just poor breeding in ethics?
@@erico2079no actually it’s not because too many people get dogs without realizing what a HUGE commitment it is & then dump them at a shelter where they’ll most likely (most of the time they do) get euthanized. Also things happen so again, instead of dumping the dog off & never knowing what happened to them or just thinking ‘oh I’m sure Fido got adopted & hes with a great family!’ When they are no longer living. A contract insures that said dog goes right back to the breeder also the breed reserves the right to take the dog back at ANY TIME if the contract is violated.
Some dogs with “Floppy ear” will get creases that get infected and are hard to maintain. As for the tail, I’ve had mals and Dutch shepherd’s and my last mal had “happy tail” were they wag their tails so hard that they hit things, walls and such and then they break, re-break until they have to be removed. These things are very rare but happen enough to be a problem. My Dutchie had to have his happy tail docked at 3 yrs old and it screwed his balance up for a while. The process sucked. But on a whole 95% of dogs DONT need it.
Great video. These dogs look like Dobermans crossed with the Cane Corso, although, you can see the Doberman all over this dog. They are very beautiful but the Doberman is the most pronounced when looking at them. It was interesting that they essentially used different dogs to do different tasks. One dog for obedience, one for hold & bite and one for agility. Usually, a trainer will show one dog performing all of these tasks. That shows their all around ability. The breeder is a very nice man with excellent intentions and his goal is admirable but these are really the original Doberman in a different coat, just a little heavier than most. Best of luck with (not the Canis Panther) the Best of Both Worlds breed, they are striking.
the traits most prevailant is belgian malinois, cane corso, and staffordshire my final guess is, (Belgian malinois X Cane Corso X Staffordshire Terrier X Doberman)
@@kianrahmani7767 Thank you for responding and correcting my error about the male dogs, I edited my original comment. I missed Finnen(?) and his bite work, hopefully I got his name and spelling correct. You are producing (creating) beautiful dogs. It's not an easy task and it takes a lot of time, dedication and money. Your dogs remind a lot of working line Dobermans, that is a real compliment. They are physically a little larger and we don't yet know how their intelligence measures up but your dogs are beautiful and if they turn out the way they seem to be headed, you'll be very successful. The female pup Atusa, (hopefully I got her name right) is an excellent specimen and she looks like a great example of what you're wanting to accomplish with this breed. Thanks again for reaching out. Congratulations and I truly wish you the best of luck.
Wow what a breed and the man is right breeders are targeting looks over function and health. When i was young we had ridgebacks to guard the property. We lived in Rhodesia so the blood lines were old. Compared to what you get today its pretty shocking how much they changed. Still lovely dogs but much smaller and slower. Excellent video stunning dogs and first class owner.
This is a very nice well rounded dog. I’d be proud to own one. The breeder is educated and very responsible, as well as pro dog health. Good obedience! I hope he continues with his breeding and makes a better working dog.
Absolutely amazing dogs! You can tell the breeder is really doing the job by researching and being careful about his breeding and it shows on the temperament of his dogs. I hope he registers the breed soon and manage to keep his line “clean”.
It appears to be a Cane Corso and a Doberman, lots of Doberman lines, Euro lines. Remember, the original Doberman was a combination of several breeds including the Rottweiler, the German Pinsher, the Blue Dane, Weimeramer, Bueracan, old German Shepard and Black and Tan terrier and they refined with a black racing greyhound, which we have records of. The original several generations were very, very sharp dogs and used by the Marines in WWII.
These dogs are absolutely beautiful, well taken care of obviously . When they stand there in the sun shining on them you can see how sleek & ripped they are . I’ve never seen such a well rounded dog ✌🏻
This dog is a copy of the canis.😂😂😂 nothing rare. Just another piggyback and another dobbie mix like I guessed and was right... also he didn't say exactly what makes his "breed"... why you ask... because he's hiding the fact that's is a piggyback. Just like the American Bully being a piggyback of the American bulldog with a terrier twist. Lol dude just deleted the lab from the panther if it was even there. I don't see ANY phenotype of a lab in the canis... at the end of the day, they're both dobbie, apbt mixes. Not rare in any way.
I wish animal watch would do an episode with lee Robinson of the American sentinel k9 bandog program. He's a biologist and he's trying to make his dogs have as much game as a game bred pitbull. He uses different mastiffs in his program. the dogs are at least over 50% gamebred pitbulls. Most are around 65% pitbull.
Real absolute beauties ! And I love that Kean is really choosing who will buy his dogs. So many people present a nice and good face and end up in reality to be mediocre owners. I wish the best to Kean and his beauties !!! If I was 20 years younger, I would have envisaged owning such a dog but ... ! Do they have the same life span than the other breeds of that size, i.e. 9 - 10 years ? Thank you for your videos on dogs, they are always a delight for real dog lovers. From Paris with love.
@@goyes-vr3bzShe actually did mention that she DOES know. But she's not telling you out of respect for the breeder's wishes to keep that information private
Although, we could assign this new breed, to protect the Greyhounds/Galgos in Spain: the hunters in that so called EU Country with a queen and king, are evil to their dogs during and after hunting season. Have you not seen the atrocities towards the precious Galgos in Spain caused by their savage owners? It is painful to see.😮 Dogs are a gift from nature to be grateful for.
Yeah, there are definitely significant parts of Malinois and Dobermann in those fellows. I would love the chance to work with one of those dogs for some days. Seeing them in a video is cool, but to really know, you have to work with them for a bit.
I have 16 month old Pit Corso (Blue Nose Pit X Cane Corso). He is a huge 100+ lbs puppy and still growing. He can chew up anything, I'm on my second Kong Extreme. A Cane Corso has a 700 bit psi and Pitbulls have the ability to hold onto things so tightly, he can hang from his rope toy, by his jaws, for real. Only problem we have is he doesn't realize his size and could easily knock you over. He's a puppy that's the size of a fully grown dog. ❤
I would loooove to see a pic of yours. We have a black/brown brindle Pit/Corso mix who has the stockiness and build of a pibble and the face taking more of the Corso. We love her to bits!
Really, what is the purpose vanity? Do you need an elephant gun to shoot a deer. What is the purpose for a family risking one even playing with a small child. A nip with that bite force would kill your child or you or someone else or another animal not equipped. Here we go again nightmare pitbulls and cane corso is not enough. The animals are the ones that suffer abused, mis bred, fought, euthanized and 90 percent of owners cannot handle these powerful animals lack of resources, vanity, ghettos, drug dealers and assholes with small dicks buy them usually.
We had a samoyed wolf dog mix by mistake thought it was pure samoyed. It ended up by the courts in a 20 by 20 enclosure after biting kids, adults, other dogs. It existed not lived in there walked with a muzzle fighting us on walks for 7 years when the vet begged and convinced us to put him down. You have not lived and breaks your heart to see your dog shunned and feared. You have treat him once an adult like a serial killer because its not made for families and sweet cuddle city life.
Lots of dogs have a purpose. It’s a matter of using it. We have a standard Poodle and he makes an incredible family dog and my husband also uses him as his retriever for upland hunting. But this dog is social and can be taken anywhere without being a liability. Most of these extreme dogs don’t belong in society because they end up being dangeorus. Once they get popular.. there comes the bites and maulings.
They're probably a linebreeding of doberman and bully. He had some old pictures of a doberman and a few bullies years ago and also a picture of a litter of this bully and doberman. The dog quite similar to his current dogs.
For sure I know a bully is part of this breed, as well as a Malinois and a Presa or Corso among others. Beautiful structure and shape tho, although a long tail would have made it the perfect looking dog hands down.
As the video was running I caught myself mantally writing a description of land, enviroment, other animals, the working requirements, and a guess at percentages of Pet vs Working Dog and how many family members would need to have full control of the dog.. Then I realized I may never be able to afford one... But, what an incredibly well bred dog and even more impressive a breeder/trainer, virtual creator of a breed that actually cares about his dogs... Every single breeder should be this good and this concerned of the life of his dogs...
Ive been following that dude on Instagram for years. All he did was breed a female XL American Bully to a male Doberman. This isn't a breed yet. He only has a couple generations produced. For a channel this big I would think you would know obvious information on creating a breed.
I am sorry that you are so far behind with your information. It is because of people like you that I have decided to keep things more private and seems like it is working. Thank you!
As a former owner of a Warlock or King Doberman (super sized) you can see the eyes of the Doberman so clearly on this breed. It makes my heart melt. My dobie passed unfortunately. I miss so him terribly that I won’t get another Doberman but this breed is something else entirely. You can see the mastiff shining through. Gorgeous! Definitely one to consider in the future for protection. Thanks for sharing the breed with us!!
Sorry to hear about the passing of your Doberman. If you ever do decide to get another one, don't fall for the King and/or Warlock propaganda. They don't exist. Warlock comes from the name of a show dog called Borong the Warlock, who was a normal sized dog. King is just a tag used for greeder breeders like King Shepherds. Instead of worrying about the size, look into the health testing of the breeding stock. There are several really good breeders that have longevity certified dogs in multi generations throughout their pedigrees. I've never seen a breeder of "King or Warlock" Dobermans do ANY health testing. Not even for hips. If a breeder is breeding over sized dogs, hips should ALWAYS be tested as should hearts.
I appreciate the shared detail, effort and time both you and the breeder presented in the video. Your dedication to your craft appears very genuine and seems to improve with each video. Thanks for stepping off the beaten path to interview this unique breeder/trainer. I appreciate those that took the time to watch the video. Then provide feedback from their personal perceptions and experiences. When it comes to floppy ears and a whip tails; they have there lapdog place in society. A dog is not a lesser or mutilated animal, if a breeders design is for a working purpose. That purpose may actually save the canine (and or its handler) andprotect it from great harm or death. Expand your knowledge and research the reason for the Breeders choice. I'm sure if you requested a floppy ears and wagging whip from him ... for a pet, non working dog he would refer you elsewhere. However, these canines are purpose breed and to be trained as a functioning working dog/pet. My Rottweiler that was family and I loved him more than most people. He provided our family with over a decade of service and love. His only flaw in the protection field that made him vulnerable...was his ears. This isn’t meant to offend. These dogs are not for everyone. Those that are fortunate enough to be and owner/handler ... best wishes and enjoy!
Looks just like a cane Corso.., had one for 15 years.. got cancer and had to put him to sleep… true story had a 2006 Chevy avalanche had the tailgate up and he literally jumped from the driveway up over the tailgate into the back of the bed of the truck.,. Like almost 58-60 inches.. he loved everything and everyone.. when I took him to be put to sleep.. when the nurse came out he looked at me and walked straight to her.. god I am crying right now.. what a good dog.. Nick I hope I see you again one day.. I miss you… I can see you my boy.. I miss you.
Beautiful dogs, and just amazing to see them in action. While are understand it given you plan for them to be used for protection, I still take issue with the ear and tail cropping. Or did they somehow manage to breed for those ears and tails, because if so I would love to hear more about that.
@@1forelle Yes, they are ... and not very well done, which is weird, considering how much effort he put into his new breed. Or maybe he went for the ragged look on purpose, who knows.
@@sharonmontano4924 - I started training as a pup. Socializing her immediately and had her learning commands. She's UNBELIEVABLY protective, almost to a fault, but she's amazing!
