Notes on a New Zealand City. Wellington 1971

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Wellington could have made different decisions back in 1971 which would have resulted in a more sustainable city. Unfortunately, almost everything was designed around the car, leaving people who walked and cycled as second class citizens. This is not a mistake which Wellington or New Zealand were unique in making. The same thing happened in very many cities in countries across the world. This blog post is about problems which could have been avoided:
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This video was originally posted by Archives New Zealand, but unfortunately they took the video down again part way through 2015. This copy has been edited slightly to restore the original 4:3 ratio.
Note about copyright: the original upload by Archives New Zealand had text on-screen which invited viewers to "Comment on, Share and Remix this film". Thank-you for allowing such use. This is my remix.

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@OnlyThe1Son 9 месяцев назад

these men are turning in their graves! we havent designed and built anything like our grandparents generation did. just look and see from 1920 to 1970.. in that 50 years how much was build in such a small time with a small population. and today we have the biggest housing crisis in the world, we have the largest housing shortage in the world for our population. house prices are at impossible prices which means most kiwis cant afford one, so businesses will buy them and rent them to people. our governments dont know how to design, plan and build new roads, towns, and houses... we have managed to destroy in one generation what our fathers build! what a shame!!!

@liamprentice3574 Год назад

"Continuous suburb is a horrifying thought." So true. I just finished my architecture thesis which explored New Zealand's suburban centres and how investigating the urban design of medieval towns in Europe may help us re-design the suburban public realm.

@xr6lad 3 месяца назад

In other words. You do not like what people want to chose and think you should choose for them? They moved from those ‘tightly packed areas’ in to suburbia because they liked the space. Obviously that thesis didn’t include common sense.

@goarmysleepinthemud. 23 дня назад

@@xr6lad Yeah well 9bn people in the world and only a finite amount of space we can't all be greedy guts.

@RedHoodedWraith_Boy 4 года назад

Nearly four decades on and we still have the same problems 😂

@DavidHembrow 4 года назад

There's also a blog post about this:, pointing out how Wellington (and thousands of other cities worldwide) could have chosen a different path: www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2015/07/notes-on-city-how-problems-which-could.html

@Friendo111 Год назад

How surreal it was to see me and my mum at 9:07 after all these years. I have many memories of J'ville mall. I think I wore that outfit with swagger! Thanks for the upload and memories!

@DavidHembrow Год назад

You were looking cool. Glad to hear you liked the video.

@vincedwyer9466 Год назад

Some great footage here. I grew up in Wellington in the 60s and 70s. Fascinating to hear the views of Martin Hall (minute 27:00 +) about developing housing around shared gardens, and understand how the developments by Ian Athfield and Roger Walker (Thornton/Hataitai) were as radical then as they would be today.

@willandrews6107 4 года назад

Thanks for posting, David. Bit sad that there was a wealth of wisdom on town + transport planning available even ~50 years ago which was ignored! In fact low-density suburban sprawl is still the norm for new houses throughout NZ. See also this gem from 1978 which takes a similar 'paved paradise' viewpoint, particularly about 'suburban neurosis' (great contemporary NZ footage too) www.nzonscreen.com/title/johnstones-journey-episode-five-1978

@DavidHembrow Год назад

I missed your reply until now. Thanks for the link, that was a really good programme. It also brought back some memories for me as it was made during the time that I lived in NZ. It really is remarkable how these obvious problems are seen by many, but addressed by none. I had a look around Massey on Google Maps. It looks horribly car dominated, which of course is sadly exactly the outcome we had to expect.

@willandrews6107 Год назад

Thanks @@DavidHembrow I'm optimistic that NZ policies are improving, if slowly...

@xr6lad 3 месяца назад

Which part do you miss that people like this? Why do you imagine they are just yearning to be crammed into tiny places packed together like their grandparents lived all over again?

@Heimdall01 8 лет назад

Thanks for posting! Cheers from Vienna!

@wellingtonian2009 7 месяцев назад

Even 52 years ago they were talking about a direct rail between Porirua and the Hutt Valley. At least Wellington

@RedHoodedWraith_Boy 4 года назад

Well, this explains a lot about my city and region

@PS-Straya_M8 2 года назад

Very interesting, I lived in Wellington for many years and enjoy learning about the history. LOL 32:10 that would be illegal now :)

@scottlewisparsons9551 Год назад

Very interesting. I grew up in Wellington and had just started work in the city at that time. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺

@mrmullett1067 3 месяца назад

Great video, thanks for sharing.

@juliaforsyth8332 2 месяца назад

The narrator saying the teenagers from Wainuiomata should go more into Welly to art galleries,etc! Most of them were working class kids and wouldn't be seen dead doing that sort of thing. If their mates found out... Their parents, except maybe Mum would not see an "arty" stuff being important. If you were interested you kept it bloody quiet! Even serious educational aspirations was viewed as trying to be better than your family and stiill is thought the same in certain stratas of society.

@moaningpheromones 5 месяцев назад

23:20 Is that Sturdee St? If so, it became part of Victoria St extension. And it was originally Quinn St or Quin St. I'm 99% sure in the video it's Sturdee. Well before my time. Obviously before the radicals banned vehicle parking from the CBD. 1970s was a huge decade of change in the capital. Lucky anything is left anywhere.

@jonfrance2537 8 лет назад

In U.S.A. they are defining a city by saying: "A city is a place where you store cars." @20:40

@chrisharris3152 4 года назад

Hi David - you should rename this Notes on a New Zealand City, the original title. That might make it easier to search!

@DavidHembrow 4 года назад

Thank you for that suggestion. I've re-named the video.

@chrisharris3152 4 года назад

@@DavidHembrow

@paulhoskin5353 3 месяца назад

The Alpine Fault will fix Wellington

@mahulad7298 2 месяца назад

Say what? Stay at home mums community orientated suburbs populated by wholesome pillars of the community where we all lived a jolly good life. Somebody pinch me I must be dreaming...😴

@goarmysleepinthemud. 23 дня назад

The stay at homes did not sound to thrilled. Don't blame them.

@viveremilitareest9281 22 дня назад

@goarmysleepinthemud. My wife loves it. Gets to raise the children without state interference. Not a bad gig for a woman in her mid 20s!

@katiegeorgeripia Год назад

Where are all the Maori families???

@DavidHembrow Год назад

Good question.

@rodnrach Год назад

This might have been before they arrived in the suburbs? There were a lot living just down the road in the railway settlement in Ngaio, I went to school with their children.