So It sounds to me like at the very least these people should be going after the government. Not the individuals. They legitimately had approved permits.
These people look like the local mob trying to use bullshit like "environmental damage" (notice how you can't even spot any in this video near the actual miner's camp and actual mining site?) as a easy money and resource grab to take what others LEGALLY worked hard for.
@@-carlos-danger1891 Are you also aware these assholes have the biggest ownership of all gold, copper, silver, nickel and platinum group element mines in the area and you can sure bet they don't care how much "environmental damage" their mines are doing. Looks like they're eyeing jade as their new easy payday especially since other people have done all the hard work of mining it out of the ground already. Fucking crooks this is a shakedown racket and theft in progress.
Soooo sounds like they don't care about the aboriginal rights but more about him not getting any money. The kid had social justice warrior written all over him. I would have ran his ass off my claim
notice how they tried to say "i was going to build a culture camp", but keeps going back to how valuable jade is 😆. These people are worse than retail store scalpers
yeah, white people are way too noble to not get every dollar they can get their hands on. those darn natives, trying to get paid for having their lands destroyed and having insanely valuable resources extracted in the process. smdh!
This was very interesting. Found this video in suggestions from a video i watched by Emily Riedel's channel from Bering Sea Gold. I watched Jade Fever from the begining. The last episode of this past season of Jade Fever, Never mentioned you guys coming out. The last season ended with them being shut down only by the ministry of conservation saying they were closing the road because it was in such pour condition and i remember something about being possibly illegal...(could be wrong about the illegal part). But basically the made it out to be that if the road was closed they couldn't get their jade out so they were forced to shut down.
This chickenshit tribe are nothing more than the local mob. They own the biggest amount of copper, gold, silver, nickel, platinum group elements mines in the area and you can bet they don't give a shit about the "environmental damage" their mines do. Looks like they're eyeing jade as their next easy money and resource grab after other people have down the hard work of getting it out for them.
These assholes are nothing more than the local mob eyeing a new valuable resource and sees Jade as their new easy payday and resource grab. Especially since others have LEGALLY already done all the hard work in mining it out for them.
Such a racist and ignorant comment. What if equipment showed up at your house to take the minerals beneath the surface without your permission let alone a compensation agreement. Ecological areas have value without the exploitation of the nature resources.
I have watched this and a few episodes of Jade Fever on Discovery. I always seem to come away with questions that are not answered by either side. I will assume that the Tahltan people living in that remote area are a small nation. What income sources are available to the Tahltan nation? How does the nation support itself? Jade City Store supports itself by selling low to Grade A jade to Tourist and recently partnering with Chinese Jade Investors to allow them to financial they Larger scale mining operation. It appears from the show that the employee less than 30 people in their crew. So they are not getting rich off of this. Maybe the Tahltan nation could provide land restoration services to the mining crews. Mined land, even strip mined land can be restored. Just hoping both sides can find a middle ground and work together.
They basically run every gold mine in the area and do most of construction projects in the area. They just want total control of it now that jade prices are up and that all the hard work is basically done now just walk in and make easy money.
@@dougjones6823 I remember another video from this group saying they want to shut down the jade mining and replace it with gold mining. Like WTF? Gold mining is more destructive than jade mining! Sounds like another wolf in sheep's clothing people upset they aren't making bank from a growing industry.
British Columbia isn't allowing any new jade mines to open in the northwest, and has set a five-year wind-down period for existing operations. A statement from the Ministry of Energy and Mines says officials have been working closely with First Nations to address concerns about the effects of jade mining on sensitive alpine environments in the area near Dease Lake, about 1,750 kilometres northwest of Vancouver. An order under the Environment and Land Use Act was necessary to protect the area from further harm and disturbance.
the industry here has crashed, Russia, soon, then only West China and Afganistan and only black jade from West China and Russia, all the better for my new discovery in Ontario Canada BC was 70% of the market and AU South seems to have run dry as well as the West USA Peru and Guatemala, NZ says no to sales. I just found black jade over 300 lbs, green and green/red (Kingfisher)
If they want to" preserve " the land , jade etc I say give them the land with a non-breakable clause preventing them to mine and profit said protected land once they own the land .
@@ntt1654 until all the “First Nations” tribes are treated fairly (aka just like everyone else), and governments end their racist laws, there will be this friction of different “races”. I am not saying these people shouldn’t maintain their ways of life, traditions, etc, wherever feasible WITHOUT extorting money from others with government help, but they need to become tax paying citizens just like everyone else and accept that the sad fact is that the weaker civilizations have always been assimilated by the stronger. To their benefit, in many cases.
There's literally a video from these same people saying they want to shut down the jade mining and replace it with gold mining. Like WTF? Gold mining is significantly more destructive, but these people own all the gold mining operation in the area, so that should tell you everything they need to know.
I am deeply saddened by the divide between the peoples who have been here for many generations and are the rightful stewards of the land as the forfathers were before them. To those who are here now i cannot fully blame for your disruption of the natural order of living in harmony with the land. That disgrace firmly lands upon shoulders of those who place profit above respect knowledge and honor.
Well these assholes own most of the gold, copper, silver, nickel, platinum and other precious metal mines in the area and don't give a shit about all the environmental damage their mines are doing, so maybe these assholes should try leading by example. Instead of being the local mob and trying to instigate any bullshit to basically commit theft to add to their mining collection.
I'm a miner. It was shameful to see the devastation done. Shameful. Any resources mined from your area should be taxed. A royalty goes to the residents of the area. Period. We receive a dividend check every year here in Alaska. Flip side is the bottom line of the local tribe goes up dramatically am I right? So the tribe won't add the jade to it's list of assets? Sure they will. social justice.... did the natives give the other tribe a notice of eviction before they raided and enslaved the women and children while murdering the men? The concern for the land is one thing. The posturing is a different thing. Cool thing is this thing we've built called Ameri.... oops. Canada. Where those with perceived injustices done to them can find a path to rectify some of those wrongs done in a peaceful manner. Were those in the neighboring tribe given the same consideration and opportunity? Rarely. ur high horse isn't.
These guys are fucking crooks and wants control of all the mines in the area. Plain and simple. BTW it's not their fucking area too. 1) No one owns the land 2) If you think this piece of shit tribe was the only ones living in the BC area, then you stupidly must think only one type of fish ever swam in BC's rivers and lakes.
I'd like to see proper oversight, area of impact control and required reclamation. This would not only reduce the impact but reduce the chance of any diggings as they would have to be more sure of the profits. The turnover on the companies must also be taxed ofcource, since they are taking out a finite natural resource.
So after watching the entire video, it sounds like you would like some financial stake in the jade mining. Sounds good, how much would you like? Would you prefer percentages or flat rates? This is an open discussion, open to anyone.
It sounds like they want everyone gone, no money no miners. But yes they are going to need to make sure they reclaim the land ✅ if they don’t yes sue them 100%
Yet they had agreement with the government and had to sign off permits. But one division of the tribes stated they were not involved or notified or was receiving money from the mines themselves.
There pissed because other people are making money off land there great great great great grandparents shit on. I’d tell them to step off. If they weren’t legal they wouldn’t be mining, just because they print out some documents doesn’t mean jack shit, my second response would be see you in court and if you wanna come back and cause trouble like the guy said they would do if they didn’t leave, then any hostile behavior will be felt with in kind.
Considering tons of other tribes have lived in that area too, it's not even the land their ancient grandparents shit on. These are nothing more than fucking thieves acting like the local mob.
@@alexjonesbones4753 1) You thinking these parasites were the sole people on the land is laughable. 2) Ask the Tahltan parasites this question directly since these pieces of shit have a monopoly on all the mining operations in the area and have destroyed the land in the name of greed far behind what these jade miners COMBINED could have accomplished. Hell these fuckers even trademark and put their name on the 100+ ton mining dump trucks they own just to let everyone know how owns the mining operations tearing up the place. These parasites are nothing more than fucking crooks and the local mob trying to steal jade from people who LEGALLY already did all the hard work for digging it out. EDIT: Forgot to add, if you search up all the mining operations these parasites control on a map, these fucking pieces of shit think they basically own the entire province of British Columbia north of metro Vancouver which is the most laughable bullshit I've ever seen.
Yo .mind done been colonized,,colonial occupiiers. What was taken by force will be returned by grace. And you will go down in history as an imperialistic extractor. Who thinks they have a right because they pays a fee to another Colonial occupier. None of your money is good it is all blood loot stuff stolen land period in your logic has only precedence in barbarism and feudalism from the country of your ancestors
The government gave the miners permits. The Indian nation doesn’t have the right or authority to close down any mine. They have to deal with the government. If I were there. I would have continued mining while they watch
Don't know about Jade Fever, but on Gold Rush, those guys are responsible for restoring the land, which includes planting trees where applicable. But i feel pretty sure the same applies to the jade mining operations considering its Federal Law.
The mining crew of Jade Fever have never destroyed any lands nor does this video even show any of the alleged "environmental damage". I would also question what sort of habitats are located on barren mountains where the closest tree is located literally tens of miles away. These people are full of shit and looks like another wolf in sheeps clothing society. They're crying oppression when in reality they want to be their area's equivalent of the mob and own all the money, power and resources other people have LEGALLY worked hard for.
@@ATAATX The Jade Fever crew have never committed any environmental damage nor does this video show any of the allege "environmental damage". For crying out loud their located next to a lake that's still shiny blue. Yes clearly massive polluters **insert sarcasm* These people are full of shit and looks like another wolf in sheeps clothing society. They're crying oppression when in reality they want to be their area's equivalent of the mob and own all the money, power and resources other people have LEGALLY worked hard for. Furthermore I seen a video from them saying they want to shut down the jade mining and replace it with gold mining. WTF? Gold mining is more destructive, but these people own all the gold mining industry in the area, so kind of tells you how full of shit they are.
These assholes don't give a shit about the environment either. They own most of the gold, copper, silver, nickel and other precious resource mines in the area and their mines are doing WAY worse damage to the environment than any of these jade miners combined have done. However these greedy fuckers see jade as their next easy pay day and resource theft, so they're going after it especially since others have LEGALLY done all the hard work in mining it out for them.
The Tahltan people should get exclusive rights to all jade mined on there ancestral land and ban the export of raw jade like the ngai tahu tribe of New Zealand have done.
I don’t think they want Ban Export Jade. They want it so they can sell it. They seen the Tv show. They control the Gold and construction and such. They DIDNT show this much force, till now.
good for them. all over the world, all we've seen are people taking lands from indigenous people and not giving back to those indigenous people. it makes me happy to see them fighting back and taking back what's theirs and standing up for their rights.
You’re right natives have been screwed. But they’ve always been screwed. Natives were killed by Rome. Then the franks, the pope all kept changing control. Even Egypt when from having European dna thousands of years ago to now having way more African dna then European. The canaanites, Phoenicians, Gaelic etc all got wiped out or conquered. Gangis khan wiped out a bunch of natives in Asia. But now China controls Mongolia. Natives are screwed everywhere since time began. Even in the US or Mexico look at the Aztecs. They killed like 80,000 people or something to dedicate their one Temple. Mass slavery human sacrifice made it look like the Spanish was pretty mild. Then the Utes in Utah did they care about other natives? They raided and killed other natives and took tens of thousands of slaves selling to other natives and later on to the Spanish. People don’t like to talk about genocide natives commit to other natives. The Paiutes killed an entire tribe of taller red headed natives in Nevada wiping them out a thousand years ago. You’re supposed to return bodies of natives back to tribes but where do they return an 8 foot red head in Nevada? Natives and academia refuse to talk about previous natives they’ve massacred. A lot of history is suppressed especially today by governments.
You realize that even the indigenous were not the first here? That goes for just about everywhere, except Australia. Up until Europeans came this place warred just as much as Africa, Europe, and Asia. They warred for land and people. It wasn’t kumbuya out here. Their ancestors killed for that land the same way that land was taken from them. This is greed… plain… simple… They just figured out a way to kill for the land back. Except their ancestors would probably call it cowardly.
What fucking resistance? These assholes own most of the gold, copper, nickel, platinum and other precious resource mines in the area. And you can sure bet they don't give a shit how much environmental damage their mines are doing. This is nothing more than another easy payday and resource theft for these fuckers after others have LEGALLY done all the hard work of pulling out the jade.
Nice to see you doing something as a people, of all the peoples in Canada your group contribution is close to zero can't think of one contribution too Canada from Indians.
Take note from a bunch of fucking thieves and crooks? Okay... By the way these assholes own most of the gold, copper, silver, nickel and precious minerals mines in the area and you can bet their don't give a shit how much environmental damage their mines are doing.
How come you guys consider yourself indigenous and claims every part of the land.... nobody owns this earth.... you can have authority only on your dwelling place that too if you'd bought the place.
Because these assholes are nothing more than the fucking mob of the area trying to find another easy money and resource grab when they see it after other people LEGALLY did all the hard work. Plain and simple.
These fuckers own most of the gold, silver, copper, nickel, platinum and other precious resource mines in the area. They don't give a shit about damages considering what their mines are doing. This is just a easy payday and resource grab for these fuckers.
Good strong words to the people don’t respect are land same as logging they have no respect for are land were I live logging is going to be no 🌲 left for my children and there children when we are gone how going to live no more moose and pick berries and more it will be hard for them trying to put food on the to feed there family thing have to done are way if they don’t like it to pack up leave are land alone and Go
Unfortunately looks like the local mob ended the show because they want to add jade to their mining monopoly when they already have copper, gold, silver, nickel, platinum group elements to that group. You can sure bet they don't give a shit about "'environmental damage" that their mines do either. It's all just a quick and easy payday in their eyes since all the jade miners did all the work for them. They just have to collect.
money hungry grubs see where people are making money so we want some and if its all about nature are your people going to mine ??? its same as rich opal fields in Australia are they mining you make up your own mine
