I would have liked to share a good experience, like in most of my videos! this kind of thing happens but it was very surprising from a company with Novarossi heritage
Thanks, i agree the most important is how the engine runs and lasts and i know that most people are happy with these engines, but to me the first impression is also important aswell as the customer service!! Cant wait to see yours running!
The engine might run ok for most guys, but it is clearly lacking the quality and details of the competition. Like you say at the price point you expect the best! This kind of workmanship and service would be expected on a budget engine.
I couldn't have said it better, but as far as the quality is concerned, I seem to be an isolated case, so much the better for those who bought these engines. I hope for them that they will never have to deal with after-sales service!!!
Je te remercie l'ami pour les informations sur ce moteur, j'attendais ça impatiemment 👍 J'ai commencé le modélisme en tout-terrain 1/8 nitro dans les années 80 & je suis toujours autant passionné, je possède actuellement une vingtaine de moteurs, je fais pas mal d'essai et le prochain sera certainement l'O.S. Speed B2104 où l'O.S. Speed B21 Davide Ongaro qui est basé sur le B2104 ( la différence se situe au niveau du vilebrequin qui comprend qu'une seule masse d'équilibrage en tungstène, un insert de bougie modifié et les diamètres des Venturi sont de respectivement 5.8mm & 6.3mm ). Je pense participer de nouveau à quelques courses open dans ma ligue en région parisienne 😉👍👌💯🔥
L'expérience Nova n'était pas très bonne pour moi, ce n'est pas dit que tous leurs moteurs sortent dans cet état mais moi j'en ai fini avec eux! J'ai deux OS, le spower b7tt et un ultimate, ces moteurs sont magnifiques, parfaits et extrêmement faciles à régler. Je serai bien curieux de voir la différence entre un OS signé Drake ou Ongaro et un OS de série, particulièrement au niveau du timing. Mais généralement ces moteurs coûtent très cher alors que tu peux acheter un Ultimate ou spower fait par OS pour moins de 399€, ce qui reste chero quand même 😅
@@TastyBRC Il n'y a pas de différences sensibles entre un OS Ongaro, un OS Ongaro World à culasse rabaissée bleue qui vient de sortir récemment, un OS Adam Drake ou Ronda Drake et un OS de série à proprement parler car il s'agit avant tout d'un grand coup de marketing qui s'appuie sur des top pilotes très connus pour vendre des moteurs seuls ou en combo à des prix stratosphériques sachant, et je te rejoins sur ce point, que tu trouves toutes les bases pour une bonne cinquantaine d'Euros de moins & de qualité égale puisque fabriqué eux aussi à l'usine d'Osaka...! À titre indicatif & personnel je peux toucher un Ultimate M3S à 280 Euros et vu la qualité du berlingot, c'est loin d'être chero 😉😅 Les moulins utilisés par les top pilotes lors des compétitions ne sont pas identiques aux pilotes lambda loin de là, ils sont sélectionnés rigoureusement et possèdent un appairage parfait de tout l'ensemble mobile et peuvent bénéficier d'un petit travail d'optimisation sur les transferts latéraux pour ne pas trop perdre en crédibilité... J'étais pro Nova par le passé et un ami de mon club a cassé la bielle de son Nova engines b5r après 5 litres de bons et loyaux services... Pour moi aussi c'est terminé et il me reste mes anciens Novarossi. Je te souhaite un bon week-end. Au plaisir.
De bonnes infos! J'étais très tenté par un m3S à 350 avec ligne (330 sans) de très bon prix je trouve, 280!! c'est top, imbattable. J'étais fan de Novarossi aussi, j'en ai quelques uns, un peu trop même, mais avant qu'ils ne fassent faillite j'avais acheté un p5 et un Ultimate M5 (l'ancien, sur base Novarossi) aux enchères pour moins de 110euros pièce...de nous jours on ne trouve plus que du très bas de gamme, RTR pour ce prix là. Pour reprendre un des commentaires sur cette video, il ne faut pas oublier que ce n'est nullement Novarossi! Ils se servent de leur nom et de leur réputation pour se faire une place dans le milieu (et ça a marché jusqu'à présent), mais d'après mon expérience ils n'ont rien à voir avec Novarossi..Ce-ci dit, je suis peut-être un cas isolé, je laisse donc le doute dans la vidéo pusique je ne les juge que sur le seul et unique moteur nova engines que j'ai eu en main.
🤔maybe.. from what i saw it looks more like low quality machining. Nova claimed that they fixed some issues on the second batch and I may try the new T6 Nova we will see..
I imagine how difficult it must be to revive this company, I could have settled for an engine with less competition details but not with quality defects...
Je recherchais, en tant que fan de la regrettée marque Novarossi, des infos sur ce "coup de Trafalgar" que nous font encore les Ritals... Rien que "Nova" suffit à raviver la nostalgie... Cela dépasse le cadre du modélisme, ce sont de super mécaniciens, mais il y a toujours une "magouille" qui foire tout, et c'est souvent purement pour s'en mettre "plein les fourres"... Pourquoi chez Novarossi, on ne retrouvait pas ces imperfections (bon, ça rouillait/piquait un peu si l'on oubliait l'after-run...😁) ??? Les bécanes qu'ils ont maintenant sont pouraves ??? Le personnel s'en tappe ??? C'est réellement fait en Italie au moins (TOUT) ??? Non, parceque à ce taro, un Novarossi de chez "César"... OK...; un Nova Engines de chez "Jsaispaki": NON !!! Même si ça n'a plus grand chose à voir, des milliers de modélistes "nitros" seraient heureux de retrouver un peu des gènes (les bons...😉‼️) de Novarossi dans cette "prolongation" Nova Engines... Pour ceux qui pensent que tous ces (mauvais) détails ne sont pas importants sur ces nouveaux moteurs, bah on en reparle dans quelques litres ou au moment de la "grosse révision"... 😏‼️Sortez vos marteaux pour extraire le vilbrequin et explosez vos roulements, comme ça c'est un kit bielle (5 litres)/axe/roulements AV + AR/vilbrequin et peut-être même le piston et la chemise si "griffés"... Bref, à la poubelle..., et t'en rachètes un autre dans leur délire... On n'avait pas dit récemment qu'un moteur était devenu un "consommable" en auto RC Thermique...🤔??? M'étonne pas, avec tous ces abus, que le Monde génial du Thermique coule gentillement..., et ce n'est pas qu'à cause du Brushless... 😏‼️+ 1 abonné au passage, super vos vidéos, pour passionnés... 👍😉‼️💯🛢️🔥🏁🏎️🤓🇨🇵
Clairement, ces gens se servent du nom "Nova" pour vendre ces moteurs et ca marche.. mais ils sont loin du compte, tout du moins avec cette première fournée! Griffes, rouille, vilo coincé dans les roulements (et j'ai clairement défoncé le roulement arrière en le démontant..) Mais le pire c'est leur réponse 😡 Merci pour le commentaire et l'abonnement au passage ✌
I have the B3R just run in on EBIS one of the first here in New Zealand haven't taken apart yet.I am hoping to run it club day this Sunday. On EBIS was very tight will finish run in Sunday.There's going to be other B5R engines there for the first time we are all keen to see how they run speed wise and fuel run time?. I am always a bit nervous getting first of something like this I personally think will be all okay. Hopefully your engine runs good I look forward to your next video.
Hope your engine is going to run good, my experience with nova engines was sad but that doesn't mean that all their engines are poorly made. Most people are happy wtih their nova. I would really appreciate if you let me know how your b3 and that b5 are runing 👍thanks for the comment
Hi Tasty B race report first 3 race's flame outs engine carb setting high speed about flush. Idle gap more than 1/2mm. 3rd needle about flush. We had to wind the low speed needle right in bit by bit as way to rich.The other club members with Nova are running OS plugs so I put a old P3 in and 4th race got 2nd place next race 3rd.And finals placed 3rd. First place went to a Nova B5R. We are all very happy and other club members have more new engines on the way. Run time B5R getting 7 1/2 min. I am getting 8 1/2 min with B3R Picco 2099 pipe. Engine temp at end of race 96 degrees. Having paint in the cooling head I think makes little difference. Our track is tight hard and fast love the engine VERY happy will get another and recommend our feed back has been sent to our supply to the factory about plugs and appear to be listening very carefully. Last thing it's overwhelming starting a new business in time in i hope there will more stuff like clutches, bells etc.
I really appreciate your post. even if my experience with Nova was bad, the return of this company remains a big event in the world of Nitro, it would be a shame if they screwed up. How do you find the B3R compared to the B5R?
I had to richen the hsn about 30 minutes lean the low idle gap is about .5mm mid speed is flush with the notch toward the fuel nipple since making adjustments to the hsn and leaning the low more with a fresh plug I haven’t had a flameout took a full gallon of fuel through it before it really took to a good tune but as of now I’m very pleased with it
I tried a p3 plug but it didn’t seem to seat properly it was really weird what I experienced after being told it would be compatible I noticed the button head on these novas are very soft and the threads are very delicate other than that I haven’t had any complaints with mine
This is totally ridiculous!!! Pretending to manufacturer quality racing engines. That you got it like this back from Nova says it al. "piston and sleeve are fine, feel free to run it" 😂 so they don't even want to give you a quality flawless engine. It's € 380,- !!! I would deffinitely expect more then this for that money. I only pay € 55,- more for a FX engine. The quality difference is night and day.! I totally agree, there are many engines with better quality for less money. Your SPower looks really good 👌 I wonder how much a crank expands when it's heated. If a crank is this tight think the bearings wear out pretty quickly. This is sertainly not as it should be!!! That does look like rust on that crank. What a shame!!! Brand new engine 👎 You would assume that if you send something to the manufacturer and get it back, everything is in top condition. Guess not with Nova. What a joke!!! 👎👎👎
They claim that they are "obssesed by quality", I would never have imagined receiving a new engine in this condition, but even less that they send it back to me in the same condition after having checked it, knowing that the customer is unhappy and has reason to be, they don't care about the opinion of a single customer .. their sales must have been very good lately. Yes Kings the Spower is looking awsome!! at 199 i should have bought 3 of them 😆I think we will never see such a good deal again. But i you have 379.9 euros to spend you have a wide choice of excellent engines. Think you are right, when such a tight crank expands, that may put a lot of stress on the bearings. Anyways, it wont make your life easier as disassembling it will require quite some effort and seems to be risky for the bearings imo. Still not all those cranks are looking so thight from what ive seen in other videos.
The crankshaft of the VSB02 doesn’t have balance weight either and is a great engine. I think the piston is lightweight and the crankshaft does not need the extra weight. So they can achieve higher RPM
The VSB02 is a great motor! balance weights are are not necessary for an engine to run well but a high end feature. For the money, IMO, you can get a better engine than a B5R with or without balance weights, I would choose the vsb02 without hesitation over the b5R!!!
Damn that is crazy I can’t believe they sent you that crap again just trying to make money of a old name!! An I’m with you bro love picco always the best motor in so many ways!!!
Absolutely Piccos are such great engines plus affordables!! Owning several piccos, I have become very picky about the quality of the motors that I buy, especially when I pay more for them than a PICCO🤨 Same here, i cant belive that they sent me the same piston and sleeve again, at first I thought it was an error, an oversight.. but you saw their response to my message
Yeah I hear you it’s a shame big hopes but let down is not expected twice, in Australia 🇦🇺 it’s so expensive considering our dollar is less than USA or your dollar 💵 I think they need to be more serious about it this is not a cheap hobby 👍 appreciate you an your work you do for the hobby mate, an yes I have 4 picco an love them over any other motor just good quality 👍 cheers Tony
Can you feel the scratches with your fingernail? I believe they messed up on the finished size of the brass liner before chrome..... Everyone needs to disassemble a Nova engine before running....I think this is a bigger quality control problem that you might think.....
I totally agree, i check every single engine i buy, most of the time everything is ok but not this time 😅 this company really have a quality control problem or their quality standards are very low... And no, i cant feel the scratches, they are not very deep but still sucks imo
@@TastyBRC I've always used and trusted only one manufacturer for racing, that's OPS...People mistakenly think they shut down..... OPS have always eaten Novarossi and Picco for breakfast in every way including power, but Novarossi and Picco are the ones on the shelf at the local hobby shop...hence their popularity.
Try the REDS engines which are made in Italy and are something more than the Novarossi and perhaps even the Picco p3. I'm Italian and I must say that despite all these years that the Novarossi engine has been used by people in Italy these problems have not arisen. But I inform you of one thing that since they had temporarily closed the factory due to a change of ownership and because it was also bankrupt (i.e. from 2020-2021 and reopened in 2022) many things have changed when they returned such as: the logo/emblem, the projects the manufacture and coloring of the engines, the management of the factory, the use of non-inferior materials, the employees who work there have changed, the machine tools for the construction and therefore the processing of these engines have also changed. And that's why you found all those scratches inside the cylinder and on the piston skirt because the new machine tools that are of the latest generation and are numerically controlled that they have in the factory release and make those scratches on the finished piece, and it's a serious thing that they should put back in order it may be that the employees didn't notice it and that the machines make these scratches.
Reds engines look awsome and i think that the quality control is perfect, they are expensive engines but you get what you pay for! The new "Nova" company is as you said completely new and different, I can only judge them on the single engine that I bought, maybe it was a problem on this one and only engine but I am very disappointed with the handling of this problem, I would have hoped that they return a new double checked engine instead of sending the same damaged parts back to me. You may be right, their machines are making these scratches and they are unable to do better..
The retailer in New Zealand has inflated the price. Some distributors are making there own "Value" It's would be around 200 dollars cheaper to buy from Australia and pay freight
Im not surprised that prices are going up with all the hype about this company. But there are better choices IMO, at least here in Europe, i can buy a Ultimate (made by OS), a Picco, Ielasi for cheaper than the Nova, a Reds scuderia Gen 2 or Spower B7TT (OS) for an extra 20$, i know that most of those engines are much more expensive in US, dont about Australia??
@Tasty B Australia is better for average wage conversion and not much tax from Asia. A o.s is mid 500 ausd in New Zealand is closer to 800nzd what's about 670ausd in Australia the nova was 300 So we get a bad deal here.
Have you tried the hobbyking track star engines ? Everybody is amazed at what you get for 70 Bucks It is basically an alpha dragon without some of the extra machining They have plenty of power
I haven't, unfortunately ! But i have a brand new trackstar seg28 never seen a drop of fuel and the quality is awsome, doesn't look like a cheap engine.
Thank you! and my apologies for the music 🙏, I had to add music because there is an annoying back noise, maybe you will notice it, sounds of crickets!! (the food of my son's lizard) 😅😅, I'm used to it I so didn't pay attention while recording but realized it while I was editing so i tried to drown out this annoying noise
I heard that they fixed this kind of issues in the new batch.. dont know if the carbs are the same. I'm done with this company .. Good uck with your B3
I have a question out of all the engine Wich one in your opinion best to run for a savage ? Thanks have a good one till the next one 👍👌✌️🛠️💯 savage nation 💪
In my humble opinion the best pullstart engine ever made is the Picco rebel XL, i made a couple videos of cars with this engine and a review video too. Compared to my other pullstart engines (LRP 28, 32, hpi 4.6, force 32, hobao 28, 30..Novarossi 28) this one has the highest quality standards, based on a race engine (same block and materials as the picco p3tt) the rebel xl is great and my favorite pullstart engine!!! not the most powerful but a bit more powerful than the stock .28 though
wow that's cheap...the cooling head looks very soft. feels like they tried to hide the cost cuttings with flashy colours and engravings. the scratches in the sleeve really did it for me, even my bottom of the barrel small block force engines don't come scratches that's unacceptable regardless of price point. but fingers crossed they'll learn from this and improve, let's see
Let's say that this kind of problem can happen with the first batch 🙄, but they said there was no problem with that scratched sleeve and piston and that's a shame.
Problems on the first batches sometimes occur, they could have rectified the situation by sending me a good motor but wanting to save a few dollars they kicked themselves in the nuts
Comparing the B3R with B5R race conditions performance wise. Both engines run with same fuel 25% same P3 plugs. B5R Nova pipe types ?.B3R 2099 pipe. Coming out of the corner to main straight if I am a bit slow in tight and the other racer has more speed I can catch him top speed much the same.The other racers think I am more dialed in with carb setings if I give it heaps 8 1/2 min . One 7 min race i forgot to refuel before I started the next one run out after 4min that's about 9min?. This is something the other guys are trying to get past 7 1/2 min they like the power but need more runtime. I love the confidence power when I need it and long run time. My clutch is the same as I use with all my other race engines B3R is the best of my 6 engines.New Zealand Champs 🏆 on this weekend up north I'm not going but will get feedback as a lot of Novas racing.
I really appreciate your updating. Congratulations on you race results! So B5R has more power coming out of the corner !? so more torque than the B3R. I saw Modelix's b3 and b5r videos on facebook and the guy also said that the b5 has a bit more overall power.
