Now THIS is What a Private VPN Looks Like 

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why?

@@jomo_sh barely watched, but he seems to be a noob and gets to things late.

@@jomo_sh The comment is Satire

that's america, you can't speak for other sites. also, if you don't keep logs the company can't hand it over. VPN's that don't keep logs are safe.

God I hate the government so much

Doesnt your company have no logs policy?

@@merkava9122 Thats not how that works. If the FBI wants your info The FBI gets it Blame Bush and the Patriot act

@@merkava9122 it’s literally illegal to permit government interferences

@Locked no

But always keep an eye on paranoia, it could be planning something

It has always been this way for those who required privacy and/or anonymity. Thankfully i'm not old enough to witness the full power of the kgb, but even at the end of that era we had to be pretty paranoid about what/where we talk about things. I would imagine they'd be super happy to know we now carry bugs on us completely willingly and even buy them with out own cash.

@@Shimpriv oh man. Where I'm from in the 90's it was a civil war between extremists and the military. bombs everywhere. I remember going to school everyday paranoid af if the car parked in front of me was going to explode or if I was going catch a stray bullet. And in the end a bomb did blow up next to my school while we were in class. Paranoia saved me countless times. But now it evolved into something annoying af, because it's accompanied with PTSD. Sorry for the rant

@@Shimpriv Did anyone you know ever get arrested? Asking out of curiosity, it's one thing to read it in the books, another to ask someone who lived through it.

Yeah I feel you, I also specifically hate the "I dont have anything to hide so what does it matter?" group. Right, Im not saying you are hiding something but you wouldnt let anyone in on your bathroom visits either right?

What does blood type have to do with japanese dating?

Seriously though. I just want to protect my privacy.

@@indexwell6546 weird japanese culture thing

How should all the companies otherwise find new ways to sell you things you don't need? They need to know you better than your spouse or any other family member. The last 20 years that have been the highest priority in western society. Hopefully now when the economy seems to change, people may start to question this data mining aswell.

Which router do you use? I use L2TP with mine and its unreliable

@@roybuscht.9997 Probably GL-iNet, they're quite ok. Asus seems to have a few models that can handle decent WireGuard throughput, too.

@@roybuscht.9997 GL.inet; they make a 400 mbps VPN router for around $120. Pretty happy with it, they are supposed to be energy efficient and compact, which is nice and all, but I would prefer more performance when adjusting settings in the web interface. Very customizable. Throughput has no issues though, I even played FPS games through my connection and maintained sub 20 ping in most games.

Dan, can you explain to me why this router is preferred over a TPLink or Linksys? Also, can you install open source firmware on your GLinet (e.g. Tomato, openwrt, etc)?

@@Ooooooooooo are you sure VPN makes you private ?

That is an interesting thing I've heard today

This should be the top comment.

LogMeIn Hamachi is a VPN. Around 2013-2014 everyone used it to make running a small Minecraft server with their friends way easier. That's the kind of thing VPN technology was meant to be used for

VPN. AKA Virtual Private Network. AKA tunneling. AKA encapsulating an IP header within another IP header. Example of such [VPN] technology is “GRE Tunnel”. AKA Generic Routing Encapsulation. Known for creating VPN tunnels with no encryption. Can be used for sending IPv6 packets over an IPv4 only network (IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel). Another example for such technology is “IPSEC”. AKA IP security. Known for creating encrypted VPN connections. Is very commonly configured with old and insecure crypto settings (using IKE version 1 instead of IKE version 2, or configure insecure DH groups like 2 or 5 instead of the more secure 20 or 21). Third example of such technology is SSL-VPN. Known for creating secure VPN tunnels using SSL certificates for authentication. AKA VPN tunnel over HTTPS. Mostly only used by companies to give employees secure access to company intranet.

The big thing is that vpn encryption prevents sslv break and inspect by your ISP.

@@ReconScammers yeah I use speedify and it's basically 1 click

I run my tor exit relay over mullvad, works great.

@@ReconScammers well then i guess it's just my experience with mullvad and other vpn services i tried, some of them didn't even have port forwarding like NordVPN

What's port forwarding? Complete newbie here if anybody got the time to explain will be greatly appreciated

@@ahmadramzy2716 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jfSLxs40sIw.html

Yes. Many think VPN = anon, but in reality VPN = hiding from some specific parties. I use mine at work connected to my works wifi. They know my device and how much data I use, but the use of a VPN makes them unable to snoop on the domains I am connecting to. I am not checking anything bad, but prefer to keep that away from my employer.

It's so non technical users don't get any stupid ideas, anyone in the know understands what you said anyway. Every technology has its pros and cons, some more some others. It's just important that you know what you need for your use case.

Just saying but you don't need a mod menu to know someone's IP, it's a lot easier but if you only have 2 or 3 people in the session you figure it out pretty easily without a mod menu.

i dont get it. whats so bad when someone got your ip address? they can locate where you live and that information is problably about 50-100km wrong. if you dont want to bypass geolocation restrictions a vpn is a waste of money in my opinion.

I'm with the author of this thread. I use mullvad with bad opsec and do illegal stuff all the time.. Not in jail atm

Exactly. Let's face the truth, money is the thing that governs the world, but regular users have no financial incentives to run TOR nodes (just like it's in e.g. Bitcoin case). My bet is that most of TOR nodes today are just honeypots run by governments.

@@iirekm I think this is an overly paranoid take. Many people go to great lengths to build ever more and more private software who have nothing to hide but their own privacy. I'm willing to bet that a lot of TOR nodes are actual privacy minded individuals.

@@ForsenArchive I guess nodes run by privacy-minded individuals are a very tiny minority. For 3 reasons: - running node on VPS / cloud services / even old PC in garage costs money, Tor doesn't have any incentives to refund those individuals at least the cost of electricity and risk (read below) - Tor exit nodes are just like any other IP on the internet. If someone commits a crime using your Tor exit node, you will have anti-terrorist police pack at your home at 5 AM, arrest and long trial... unless you're a honeypot made by a government - Running a lot of Tor nodes and lots of "competing" VPN services is simply too good idea for governments not to use it for finding criminals and obtaining intelligence. Want privacy? Use apps with privacy built-in (signal, proton mail, mega drive, Duck Duck Go search engine, physical cash or z-cash/monero, ...), multiple computers and accounts for multiple activities, public internet e.g. in random cafes, SIM card bought in country which still didn't introduce showing ID on card registration. Tor or VPNs over privacy-incapable apps and websites nowadays have little to no sense.

@@iirekmnah bruv, I run multiple nodes because I’m just a huge supporter of internet privacy. I hate the fact that companies and the gov have so much personal info they don’t need abt us

@@arrowhead1235 thankyou

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I mean you could promote them for free.

@@cloudynguyen6527 i already do to everyone who asks lol

I just saw a mullvad banner on a bus just outside of Chicago, so there's that

​@@danielrobinson3654interesting. it's fine as long as they don't sponsor RU-vidrs and celebrities

Guard nodes already provide the service of hiding the fact that you're using Tor.

@@MentalOutlaw Okay thank you, I'll look into that

@@TruthBehindTheLies idk truth, you acting kinda sus as a roblox youtuber on tor :/

I heard if u use VPN with tor VPN goes before tor guide nodes hide better in most cases but if ur in China it's good to have VPN before tor coś it's easier for vpn to bypass firewall i heard that from nordvpn and I'm not sure

I think ud have to use VPN wire wall or something

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Its here, finally!

When police and security services set up a VPN, they used the excuse that it was 6 people that had all left PIA when Kape bought them out. I was able to research and found the IPs coming from a UK Police IP range and stopped using them immediately about a year ago.

Based communist

What’s a guard node?

@@kevinbarber2795 in the context of this I'm assuming it means an entrance node which some how some way makes it so that your isp doesn't know

If you live in a 3rd class country, random not-so popular city, and only a few people within a mile radius uses Tor. Then it could be a problem. (?)

@@ray8776 You & the OP forgot bridges (Tor) exists

They know all the guard nodes too, what you might want to look at is the settings to make Tor settings look like Microsoft update data. This can help on DPI/DPI systems, but newer ones cross reference the traffic and IP, so it is pointless depending on who you are hiding from. A guard node is as insecure as an exit node. I could set one up and inspect and modify traffic. Police and Security Services in the UK do this all the time. Look how many sites that are aimed at privacy still insist on the lowest security settings on Tor Browser and demand scripts are run! That is so they track you and know your real ID. A lot of exit and middle nodes are run by GCHQ and NSA to play with. They can stain traffic going in to see where it comes out, so get the real IP that way. Two university students were threatened or paid not to give a talk on how to de-anonymise Tor users when they went to DEFCON. The talk was pulled as it would have revealed users can be traced easily and ruined the work of the security services. Tor Browser Bundle had firefox changed by developers - because they say it was not hacked - to facilitate Operation Onymous in 2014. Scripts were all set to run, but the program was like that from default instead of how it was previously with everything set to OFF. That was pressure being put on the team by Security Services and they rolled over. Then they allowed all scripts to be run no matter if the setting was on or off. Again, to keep police and security services happy because they were running exploits on Tor Users. You really can't trust anyone.

Too bad you can't phreak I guess.

I mean, you could use someone else connection, thus someone else, ISP? It's illegal but it's a way nonetheless lol

@@reforcoescolar7881 yeah, at that point is like... What the hell are you even doing? I was even going to suggest public Wi-Fi.

@@darkcoeficient tru, forgot about em

Just build many relay stations that connect to different free wifis in your area and combine them into one high speed connection /s in the future maybe it's possible to hijack IoT mesh networks to get free anonymous internet. Depends on how secure they end up being.

What about X-VPN for general browsing and research stuff?

​@@alpha12081 ye no 😂

the credit card fees are max 3-4%

@@ethgod yes + 25-50 cent on top as a flat fee

the discount CODE is so that the YTer gets credit for sending business to VPN.

They may not have at the time the comment was posted, but they specifically state that this is true on their website: "Our accepted cryptocurrencies are discounted at 10% due to lower fees and less administration." This is on the pricing page, under the question about discounts. From what I've seen, most stores that accept cryptocurrencies have discounts like this; Mental Outlaw's store does the same ;-)

Absolutely based and anon pilled

YES, PLEASE

Buy a good GPU and mine it.

invest in alts use interest / gains to transition into moreno

buy with cash from a P2P market

Duh just ask your drug dealer or the local Chinese restaurant

@@junosoft Actually Monero isn't mined with GPUs, it uses a cpu only algorithm.

It does seem that way but tor has been through the ringer with gov agencies trying to take it down or mitigate its uses

For anyone: Anonymity and secrecy are inherently contradicting each other as any anonymous software require external (therefor less secure) servers as a proxy. Also windows version of tor browser is relatively vulnerable to traditional cyber attacks as well. Tails linux equipped with end to end encryption tools such as pidgin paired with xmpp and https everyware may mitigate the risk of it. Though there is a risk of MiTM attack from exit node.

@@spyj1900 It just doesn’t seem very likely to happen

@@itsawill9268 Yet it was created by the military?

That's why you don't do that... He runs a tor relay, two different things.

It's well proven by now, that if a well meaning company grows too big, becomes too corporate, they end up becoming the bad guys, so yeah. Although, might as well ride the wave while it's radical. 🏄‍♂

They are based in Sweden, which has a terrible track record for privacy.

@@MrEdrftgyuji Bro what are you on about lol

@@MrEdrftgyuji what lol

he's not gonna let you hit

@@unrule. hit what?

pia better, worst decision

@@V3locities Look at who owns PIA

@@ℑ𝔫𝔤𝔞𝔩𝔡𝔯𝔢who?

@@lexxxsuperiorKape Technologies, a company that used to develop malware.

And that is how it works! Exactly how you are identified using Tor, they stain the traffic going in and look for it on the exit nodes. GCHQ and NSA monitor all Tor nodes are correlate the traffic.

True. But there really isn’t trustworthy countries to begin with. Want to escape the 14 eyes? Go to a sketchy country (ie China, Russia). Oh? You don’t trust sketchy countries with your data? Well, who would you really trust? Nobody

Mullvad doesnt hide that fact, they talk about it on their website. They are pretty transparent about that stuff which i respect. Being part of 14 eyes doesn't mean they are definitely monitoring.

@@lazar2949 definitely monitoring doesn't matter. Possibly monitoring does

And theyve had multiple court proceedings, and they show the court details, they provide nothing. Dont underestimates swedes love for piracy

Lipo battery inside mobile phone wouldn't just suddenly explode when overly discharged right?

Wait what

@@anubmusing9749 i think it is more about the temperature, as phone batteries can get pretty hot when using the device while charging it

@@sigmamale4147 you'd have to find a phone that lets you connect directly to the wall without a battery which i don't think exist

@@sigmamale4147 I am pretty sure most smartphone now will just shut off when your battery or cpu is overheating.

Problem is, how would any law enforcement or intelligence agency know for sure that person they're surveiling is in fact a criminal? (It is especially true for various crimes coomon today, like fraud, money laundering etc). Criminals aren't fools. Plus, it's not only law enforcement who is surveiling people, it's also intelligence agencies.

I've never used a prepaid card, do you have to give your information to use it?, or can you put a random name on it?.

@@RuthlessNoise if you pay for a pre-paid card with cash then the only way the card itself can be traced back to you is if someone looks at surveillance footage and sees you buying it but even then i think there would have to be a lot of other factors coming together.

Not a good idea at all. Remember how they caught the kid who posted bomb threats to get out of finals at Harvard? He was even using TOR.

@@J43rv1 He was caught because he admitted to the authorities he did it. Mental Outlaw even said himself a few times don't admit to anything, they knew he was using TOR yeah and that made him suspect #1 but just using TOR wasn't what got him caught. That said though if they seized his computer I am almost positive they would of found more evidence.

@@ghostymytoasty7007 They correlated his usage of the internet with the same time the posts were made. What I'm saying is, for the original question, it doesn't matter if you're using a VPN or TOR on Public paid wifi/university wifi, you can still be identified. Unless I don't understand his comment.

@Livity that can't be true

But how?? Dont they "ban" your access to internet untill you pay? Or does it just put some sort of limit making it impossible to surf the internet comfortably?

false, the whole point of "OPEN SOURCE" is so you don't have to write the code but you're able to view it.

Just use a pen and paper

Agreed, even home routers are inspecting and collecting all your traffic. Have you noticed how many of them hide it as antivirus monitoring or traffic shield systems.

You're here too

@@Lucas-md8gg ..... do I know you from somewhere else?

imagine marketing yourself as authentic and "down to earth" but breaking the status quo of no sponsors xd

This guy's doing the thinking for all of us. ☝️

@@joeybuddy96 For bonus points, you hire the attorney with cash and give him a psuedonym.

Using TOR over VPN is doing nothing but making latency based correlation and MITM attacks easier for them.

@@wrockd it is adding one more hop of obfuscation and adding yet another layer of fruitless investigative sourcing. The ISP doesn't know you were connected to Tor. Tor doesn't know where you are coming from, and the VPN provider only knows that you came from a mobile hotspot and went out to a Tor node. It removes single points of failure.

@@jeremyleonbarlow TOR Guards work much better for that purpose, as they mitigate that exact single point of failure that you're talking about. VPNs are Centralised and Your ISP can figure out exactly which VPN Provider you're using just by looking at the IP, after that all it takes is an email exchange between two governments to hand over your data from that VPN company (14 eyes and 7 eyes exist). And now you've got a single entity with logs of all your activities, that's a single point of faliuee. For obfuscating TOR usage using TOR Guard nodes is much better, they Obfuscate the traffic behaviour to look like common traffic, and by the time they get recognised/registered as TOR Guard nodes by your ISP they are already replaced.

yes unless they block it

I doubt they will allow tor traffic through their servers.

I don't understand why nobody is talking about Sybil Attacks in the tor network? It's old as shit and the glowies are all up in the mix since like foreeever, how people can be so ignorant to this just blows my mind. If you want a true VPN/onion router, then either set up your own personal exit node within the lokinet network, or fork the project as everything is open source.

We don't need more relays, we need more entrance and exit nodes.

@@bravefastrabbit770 The only argument I see for Lokinet vs Tor in regards to Sybil attacks is that you have to stake Oxen to run a node. As if governments and other "bad" actors couldn't afford this?

Shouldn't work in theory, VMs are typically bridged to your physical adapter on your PC meaning that the traffic would both be going out from the same physical NIC and destined for two separate servers. Wouldn't be any different than running through a single VPN tunnel

@@ethanmorris36 ok yes that makes sense. What about using your VPN to connect on a VPS and then chaining with another VPN? I know this is probably bogus but I try to think of methods to achieve this. Double VPN did something similar but was cancelled by the glowies.

Mullvad VPN offers Double-Hop option. No need for VM.

@@skafiskafnjak971 but couldn't it be tracked in the same sense as any other VPN even with double hop?

@@ElectronNDubstep it can be tracked obviously, but it will take much more time & effort. you'll be tracked even if you use VM. encrypt your PC with veracrypt and use doublehop vpn, that's the best thing you can do.

Self-hosting anything (e.g. email) is the most secure, least anonymous way.

But they just know you have, ni idea what you do with it once its moved

But the Monero blockchain is private, so as long as you don't send it directly from the exchange to whomever you're paying, there is no way to trace what you did with the moneroj. In other words, just withdraw it from the exchange to your own wallet first, then pay anyone from there, and there's no practical way to trace that trail on the blockchain. And for anything else you can use something like Incognito app ru-vid.com

Its entirely possible mullvad is another cryptoAG jr. They have been on the nsa radar since 2009

Yes Mullvad could be completely compromised but the point of the video is that it doesn't even matter if they're compromised since they never get your information besides an IP address anyway. It means they could still be valuable to use even if the internet connection runs straight to the CIA headquarters.

Sweden has a terrible track record for privacy, as does the rest of the EU. Don't know why he keeps shilling them ($$$)

@@joey199412 I mean if they got my IP they basically got everything they need to know who I am, in which case I could have just used my credit card in the first place

@@julikaiba No. In order to even connect your IP to you, they need to have some sort of pressure on your ISP, like law enforcement. And even then mullvad would have to keep logs of what traffic exactly goes to what IP address. Then, and only then, would it matter that mullvad is in a 14 eyes country.

I hope you do not use a credit card or all that information in your profile is sold as verified! Try cancelling with them or even asking them why PayPal banned them.

Don't use tor and vpn together

@@Assault_Butter_Knife can you explain why not?

Careful. According to Kenny you're now identified since they have an email address for you.