NP Reacts: UMC Chief Nursing Officer Punishes Nurses with Mandatory Overtime

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Recently the Chief Nursing Officer (CNO) of University Medical Center (UMC) Las Vegas wrote an interesting letter to her nursing staff where she detailed that not only would be they required to pick up mandatory extra overtime shifts, but they would be losing their crisis pay as well. In this video we will go through the Letter from the CNO, and explain how her behavior is inappropriate for the workplace, and something we see far too often in the nursing profession.
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@vidalperea 2 года назад

I am a Respiratory Therapist and my advice to my nurse peers is, do not beg for what you deserve. Obviously, Deb thinks she is doing you a favor by keeping you on the payroll. Hospitals are run by nurses not administration, if nurses leave there is no hospital. Love to all my nurse peers!!!

@annaroselepley5546 2 года назад

Hey I am eligible to apply to respiratory therapy school or I’m deciding on staying in school and furthering to nursing. Do you have any advice? I really love the respiratory field but I do think about making the most money I can and if that means staying in school and becoming a nurse to make more money but still being able to help people and feel rewarded what do you think?

@zencat55 2 года назад

@@annaroselepley5546 In a nutshell: Nurses make more money. Feeling rewarded is entirely up to your definition of reward. If reward means monetary compensation then stay in school and become a nurse.

@101taiga 2 года назад

Nurses “work” in hospitals but they don’t run anything. It’s the money people run everything- from the cheapest possible foley kits to the crappiest cheapest angiocaths to the staffing “algorithms” used to spend as little money as possible on staff which includes CNA’s, RT’s, EVS, and Dietary. Hospitals are money making entities. Just ask the CEO of Providence, who made more than 10 million dollars at the height of the pandemic in 2021.

@zombieapocalypse3837 Год назад

@@101taiga Exactly.

@SincerelyJasmineJ 2 года назад

Spot on Liz! I've been a travel nurse for almost 3 years now (nurse for 5 years) and I have ZERO plans of being a full time staff nurse again. It just doesn't pay. The emotional and financial abuse that nurses are subjected to wouldn't fly in any other industry. My husband is an engineer. He said the healthcare field needs radical overhaul. I couldn't agree more! Thanks for posting!

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Radical overhaul for sure!! Travel nursing seems to be where it’s at for right now for sure.

@travelnurseadventures3225 2 года назад

Exactly! I say that all the time-“if we were plumbers we’d be making bank”- worked on call for acute dialysis in MT NO ON CALL time-I’m travel nurse too, NEVER again staff and I’m on way out of nursing!

@MNP208 2 года назад

Same here. My husband managed multiple engineers. When he talked about how he treated and supported his employees and how much time he spent mentoring them, I realized that health care "management" was non-existent.

@rayne7340 2 года назад

I agree! Plumbers make $200/hr! They handle pipes, we take care of human lives and get a fraction of that. Go figure.

@jZamora87 2 года назад

@@rayne7340 handle pipes? Are you that ignorant or you think you are high and mighty because of your college education?

@lesliedeloriant7729 2 года назад

Hospitals weaponize nurses empathy and passion for their careers. This is why i changed my major from nursing to engineering.

@MNP208 2 года назад

Yes, great move. My kids are engineers and they have so much job flexibility!

@rebeccaabel4589 2 года назад

Great move

@do9138 Год назад

Nurses, teachers . . . both are professions that rely on empathy, so we get taken advantage of. They also are professions that were traditionally held by women.

@TaylorTheBurninator 2 года назад

Psych NP student here- girl I just feel like we would be best friends in real life. I love your sense of humor and the way you think. Thanks for bringing to light some of the many many injustices in the healthcare world!

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Thanks for being here and being a virtual friend!!!

@brendabelcher3197 2 года назад

After 20 years as an RN in multiple settings and at multiple levels of authority, I finally realized that healthcare as an industry sees nurses as production workers. The products they are expected to produce are documentation that prevents lawsuits and clients/patients that don't complain long enough or loud enough to spark an investigation by an accreditation agency. How hard can it be to pass a few pills, be nice to sick people, and write up what you did at the end of a shift? For God's sake it's not rocket science! Very few outside nursing understand the true complexity of the work. As a colleague once said to me, there is no nurse shortage, only a shortage of nurses willing to work in an industry that treats them like sh*t and a public that sees them as nuns or whores

@kathyadair8552 2 года назад

Used and Abused, Overworked, Under-Paid, and inhumanely,* Over-STRESSED for Entire* Careers; More Nurses need 2 Walk TF Off their jobs! (The same done to Teachers. Men somewhere? Took Away their "Professional" Status. - Even those who got Master's in Spec. ED., to deal with that ever burgeoning, more Traumatized and growing segments of a genetically-mutated?* society! (BLAME the R-Pugly.) For Healthier, Life+ Well-being affirming, monetarily 'equitable' & viable Pay-scales, Work-Life BAL., perks + Benefits, etc. Mesh* with *CALI Union 4 Reform,* or Be FOREVER $Crewed!! ~ STRIKE before it gets too HOT!! OUT of that RacKet for 43 Years. An (Indep.) For 42! Trauma* does That to Ppl, unfortunately.

@LarryRupp Год назад

so jaded? RN's are on the bottom of the medical pro totem pole, salary wise, education wise.... My nursing school teachers were so old they remembered RN's doing linen diapers and making beds. Come a long way no?. 100k and huge package seems to be the cry here for ny downstate prices.. Nurses are expected to satisfy patients before they find a reason to complain. What's that? Nurse's are expected to record nursing activity. The law requires accuracy. What's that? I am an autodidact and have been labeled as a jack of all trades and master of many. I decide for me, everything. Found a great job taking per diem at many places and then I picked. I tried 7 on long island/ny and picked #4. Case closed. The job your in is probably suited for your skill level.

@dpstitches 2 года назад

Your video fed my snarky soul! Thank you for acknowledging all the manipulative tactics she used in this letter. My CNO is a gem and respects all hospital staff, so I can't contribute anything for future videos.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

I love that though!!! We need more like them!

@galejohnson8086 2 года назад

Our hospital in the late 70# didn’t like it when the census would fall and the staffing to patient ratio was generous for a few days. They could have used those days for many things,education, etc. Instead they came to us and said, “we really dont want to fire your co-workers, so would you be willing to take turns taking extra days off without pay?” The nurses agreed, and ever since it is a hospital policy. This insures that they can run the hospital bare bones. One nurse said that this is the only place you get intermittently layed off without pay…no unemployment pay. Yet, they made it nearly impossible to get paid education days. A lot of upper management are narcissistic sociopaths.

@LarryRupp Год назад

i woke up the Dr. every time he forgot to leave a prn. The guy RN's thought I was a lunar experiment, the women RN and up were furious with me for the heat the director for my actions. I got called to the carpet. Luckily for me, she was smoking hot. She started in and I said, yo, sign a piece of paper that says it is OK for me to bypass the state mandate that I must speak to the Dr. directly. She couldn't of course and I let her save face as a boss and a beauty. The Dr. tried to get my fired for not bending to him. I stood my ground pushed back a little mentioning the ethics board. Very few times after very many times, the prn order was missing. We became respectful to each after a short time. Women bosses in nursing will be the new dinosaur. Women love compliments and this guy is result oriented. The naturally, more aggressive male will take as long as the money is so good

@williambarbaretti3012 2 года назад

Hi Liz, I’m watching this video right now, I did my internship at UMC (dietetic), and I want to update you, apparently now RNs are required to do mandatory OT, RIDICULOUS

@rickysandefur700 Год назад

Love you girl! This as usual standard practice in LTC to try and quilt the LPNs into working till they drop! Screw that!

@laurabinn7741 2 года назад

Been a nurse since 19. And after 13 years in the field I’m considering law. Primarily because of the abuse of power in the medical fields corporate politics. We have a serious job to do. Let us do it. Leave us be. And guess what? If you pay us well and treat us well, we have no reason to leave! It should be a law: In order to work in hospital administration.. you need to be a nurse, then provider, then administrator. So you can experience the disrespect from all the different channels. The 3 jobs I’ve had, all ran the same in the end. It’s about money. Keep up the great videos. You bring up great views that I don’t generally have. Thanks!

@LarryRupp Год назад

no height or weigh requirements in that new legislation??? How ridiculous! Hire the best and that is not necessarily someone from the inside.. Do you have ODD?

@broganb7790 2 года назад

Let's look at the average wage of a UK nurse in their first 2 years... £25,000

@tinakloepfer1581 2 года назад

When I first saw this letter, I wondered if Deb had a military background or grew up in a military family. I’m not saying all military affiliated people would write this type of letter, but I could say some gung ho types could write it. How do I know? I’m an Army vet - combat medic and a Russian voice interceptor. I’m an ICU nurse now, but I felt some gung ho military vibes here. 🤣

@kio2341 2 года назад

Oh hahaha i was so entertained by your talking ma'am...bravo!!! Justice for the nurses ♥️ Love all the way from Philippines ☺️♥️

@laylam4241 2 года назад

Does anyone know the update on this case?

@samanthawebb9027 2 года назад

Most patients went to Sunrise Hospital after the Las Vegas shooting. Not many children, if any at all. Still a difficult time for us all.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Thanks for clarifying!

@wathchinu 2 года назад

Funny I just came across this. My hospital just gave me a hostage letter for money that WILL be snatched back should I leave to work elsewhere... AS RETENTION INCENTIVE. 👎🏾 just pay us more, we will stay. Smh My manager also suggested to take the money and HOLD IT IN THE BANK IF I CHOOSE TO LEAVE🤯 To pay it back. What?! These hospitals are terrible. I'm in the process of leaving Healthcare. PERIOD.

@CassieDavis613 2 года назад

Article about Deb Fox By Paul Harasim Las Vegas Review-Journal April 10, 2017 - 6:31 pm

@jesuschristlives2724 2 года назад

I'm so glad I didn't go into nursing.

@luv2icesk8lots 2 года назад

“As always...remember who signs your paychecks” -Deb

@LarryRupp Год назад

As always, I OWN YOU. at 6k a week, she owns them.

@con5ervativenutj0b 2 года назад

As always, you are the face of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, Deb.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

I am confused ...

@con5ervativenutj0b 2 года назад

It's a Five Nights at Freddy's reference. In the third game, "phone guy" would leave some ridiculous orders for the employees and end the call with "as always, remember to smile, you are the face of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza." That's the first thing that came to my mind when I heard the end of Deb's letter.

@awkwardtexasstranger5660 2 года назад

Deb should be included in the mandatory overtime shift requirements, as part of the float pool to be assigned wherever needed. Things would change there rapidly, I expect, or possibly they would be seeking a new CNO.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

YES. YES YES YES

@hadgit60 2 года назад

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

@thewellfedhuman3043 2 года назад

That's funny because DEB is probably still working from home.

@angeladew8045 Год назад

Have you worked with some nurse management trying to make it on the floor? Not saying they're all unsafe, but I have seen too many that are not safe even doing tech duties

@barbarabjorkman9796 2 года назад

PLEASE CONTINUE TO DO VIDEOS LIKE THIS ONE! We need more nurses advocating for nurses. Sick of office people trying to determine the rules for the ones actually doing the "dirty" work.

@kaylabaker6068 2 года назад

And sick of office people who I’m certain negotiate their own salaries telling us that we don’t get to have say in the terms of our employment 😡

@purplenights1 2 года назад

Yes, because this woman is a busybody who has nothing better to do with her time. If she is an NP, she should be far too busy to be posting all of the critiques of her peers on the internet.

@Beserious795 2 года назад

@@purplenights1 actually, if you look at her channel, she’s very OPEN about what she is doing in her career. There is not one thing she says in this video that is invalid. I’m curious what your perspective on the topic is, outside of judging the poster?

@do9138 Год назад

@@purplenights1 Do you work 24 hours a day? Oh, I see. You don't need to because you have a penis.

@purplenights1 Год назад

@@do9138 And having a penis has what to do with YOUR job? I am 70 years old and I still work, teaching school, not because I HAVE to, but because I like the fact that I am helping others to achieve something much bigger than themselves.

@101taiga 2 года назад

I have been a nurse since 1988, and traveling for the past five years. I have never seen so much passive (or not so passive!) aggression from management towards nursing. If I wasn’t at the very tail end of my career, I would certainly change my profession. I will never be staff anywhere ever again. The state of hospitals and the care patients receive is appalling. I’m talking about basic human rights like assisting people to EAT a meal. Keeping people clean, dry, and as pain free as possible. Actually interacting with patients, taking to them about their concerns and worries and helping to explain the plan of care in a way they can understand. Patients don’t need nurses to fix them, they need to be educated about what is going on with their health, what they can expect over the next 12 hours you will be caring for them, and just being HEARD. I worked ICU for 5 years and finally quit because the expectation was caring for three critically I’ll people at once, which is humanly impossible. I hope this younger generation fights the good fight, but I don’t see anything changing for nurses, RT’s, EVS, and kitchen staff. So sad.

@susanbrown7185 2 года назад

Every word .. loved being a nurse from 1986-2000. Left for kids and went back 2017. Hospital care unrecognizable. Was in shock at change in health care. Like you mentioned, feeding, oral care, cleanliness. CNA and RN and everyone can not keep up : doctors, housekeeping, RT, social workers, PT, OT… perpetual angst staring at computers, rushed with patients.. another topic …

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing your experience! It's heartbreaking how things are falling apart, not just for nurses, but as you said, for the patients too who are facing the consequences. I hope we can fix it

@lisaeischens2352 2 года назад

I had to quit nursing after 20 years because of chronic pain. I feel like the cumulative effect of sleep deprivation has been really bad for my physical and mental health. This pandemic has already left nurses feeling totally fried yet they keep pushing them farther and farther. Are they trying to destroy healthcare further in the US?

@travelnurseadventures3225 2 года назад

@@lisaeischens2352 I think that’s the plan-bring on socialized medicine.

@dlandrews1 2 года назад

@@lisaeischens2352 Yes. I think that’s what they want to do.

@kaylabaker6068 2 года назад

Who in their right mind would stay working there? Reminds me of Summer 2020 when my hospital canceled our employee retirement match and merit raises. I promptly resigned and began working PRN for another hospital system in town that was paying time and a half + $500 to $1000 for any extra shifts you picked up when they had needs. My loyalty stops when the benefits stop lol

@bettysmith4527 2 года назад

Sounds like my hospital, I am a 14 year nurse and I was only making 35.00 an hour, which is at least 5 plus dollars an hour less than surrounding hospitals. Needless to say, I quit because I couldn't afford to live off of this, and actually said to my manager I take home 3800 a month, and that is before even putting money in retirement, could you live off of that in this area? Her answer was no... I said.... well, later, I need enough money to live off of if I am to be worked so hard at times. Needless to say this hospital is a revolving door of new grads, they get a year, and then move on to another hospital where they actually make enough to pay bills! Hospitals will never learn, if they adequately staff and pay an adequate salary for the work and stress load people might actually stay... My sister works at another hospital and the CEO makes 4 MILLION A YEAR, but the hospital cannot afford to hire more staff?!!!

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

So disgusting. I’m so sorry that was your experience. Did you find a different place they treated you better? It’s astounding to me they they don’t realize how much money they LOSE by using this churn and burn method

@bettysmith4527 2 года назад

@@NurseLiz THANKFULLY, by the grace of the universe I went into EMS prior to nursing, and I work full time as a paramedic, so I don't have to put up with all the hospital BS. I stayed per diem, so I can work every other week 5 hours as a nurse, that's about what I can tolerate now!! I make more as a paramedic, once you factor in the 8 hours of OT every week, not to mention working two 24 hour LOW STRESS shifts, with excellent work life balance!

@travelnurseadventures3225 2 года назад

So true!

@BlueJeansandJellyBeans 2 года назад

The hospital system is upside down and it needs to be flipped right side up. Oh it's going to happen! Caregivers are getting tired of this crap.

@MNP208 2 года назад

I worked for a company where the CNO makes over 1 million/year.

@alisonmleigh7743 2 года назад

Poor patients. I can’t imagine having a nurse who is underpaid and overworked and treated as the problem will do a good job.

@LarryRupp Год назад

i go there, i was overdosed on nacotics. They are not under paid as they are inferior. The real world is cream rises to top. I was top nurse and applied at the highest paying hospital in the area. My friend cheated his way through school, smoking pot before he went to class and took a job at the local shithole. No mistakes!

@vintagepanda9410 2 года назад

This whole situation is horrendous, making nurses work an extra 12 hour shift a week plus reducing their pay. The nursing shortage in the US will continue to get worse if your hospitals keep up this attitude. I’m glad to not be there right now, we have our issues in Aus but not to this extent.

@pedinurse1 2 года назад

that woman is on crack, blessings to her , she is going to need it as there will be a massive nurse exit

@JamieTresor 2 года назад

LOL this won’t last long. Deb will be begging recruiters to send the travel nurses! As a TN myself, I know the word on the street is that there are several hospitals that are “blacklisted” …lol Mayyyybbeeee hers is one! lol

@leela4326 2 года назад

I'm a nursing student in Las Vegas and UMC was the hospital I always wanted to work at because it's the only level 1 trauma center here but not anymore! And the mandate is for an extra 12 hour shift per week which is ridiculous.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

12 hours a week?! That is legit insane. Are people quitting like crazy do you know?

@mariamzarret7734 2 года назад

@@NurseLiz I’m a new grad here in Vegas and honestly I don’t think so, only because they get a state retirement pension and most UMC employees have been there so long they couldn’t leave that easily with the benefits they have accrued.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

@@mariamzarret7734 that is so incredibly sad. I totally get why they feel stuck, thanks for this insight

@nicholeknight1893 2 года назад

@@mariamzarret7734 yep that's why they stay. This is awful. I feel so bad for them.

@1962Pineapple 2 года назад

@@NurseLiz Nevada is a right to work state; also some nurses work multiple 12 hr shift consecutively. I’m aware of 10-13 days being condoned.

@hibitokun 2 года назад

What’s really grotesque is knowing that this individual was actually a nurse at some point. Like how do you go to bed in peace treating professionals like this and when they push back you throw a tantrum and threaten staff. I just pray one day nurses across the board will know there worth and demand for better pay and most importantly a conducive work environment where they wouldn’t feel intimidated to stand up for what’s truly right and just.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

That's actually a really good point! She probably has the mindset of either not me so not my problem, or I had to suffer through this and served my time, so now they have to

@LarryRupp Год назад

@@NurseLiz So liz, are you referring to RN's eat their young? I graduated in 2007 ASN, and hated that saying. It was introduced to me in clinical. 9 foxy ladies, 6 stuffed into my Hummer II myself off to the hospital for training. Was not a guy who loved the saying, it was an alpha female compensating for wrong gender assignment. I am a alpha male to the extreme. 1987, as a series 7 licensed broker, I was employed by The Wolf of Wall Street. We clashed and in private she promised to have me throw out of school. I kissed her ass for 13 weeks and got the highest clinical grade with a chefs background, only. My point, the world is the world. Debs sitting on 300k and is going to protect that as long as possible as in not me. DENY DENY DENY She could be a politician. I abused my son so he can abuse my grandson after I expire. Jesus warned us For the love of money, is the root to all evil. Jesus was very wise at euch a young age, died at 33.

@jaxrunner904 2 года назад

From these rant videos You have helped me find words and a realization for the emotional abuse and blackmail I have had to put up with as a therapist and will decide not to tolerate as a nurse. Thank you.

@ellenscott6793 2 года назад

She makes almost $400k/year and can't even write a grammatically correct letter?

@travelnurseadventures3225 2 года назад

😂 so true

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

apparently that doesn't pay for her to bother spell checking

@urgentcareguy3 2 года назад

Won't pay for Grammarly!

@aprillauren2585 2 года назад

I fell into a Reddit rabbit hole on this one. Did you see the article done on her about her ability to balance being a CNO while being in a PhD program? It was done in late 2020 by UNLV and this is a direct quote regarding what her dissertation will be covering, “Assignment Despite Objection (ADO) evaluative rubric data, specifically how situational disruptions impact nursing practice and how those practice impacts correlate to changes in nursing quality outcomes and the occurrence of patient safety events in nursing departments that are adequately resourced”. This is honestly laughable at this point. Boy, that article sure aged well. *eye-roll*

@travelnurseadventures3225 2 года назад

Excellent find-thank you!

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

I hadn't seen this but this is amazing and now I need to go find it

@chelsonyoutube 2 года назад

Please talk about unions!! As a person in nursing school, I find that learning about the business side of nursing is really helpful. Also if you could show us how to find unionized hospital. Also maybe a contract video if possible? Thank you!!

@erinnorwood6124 8 месяцев назад

Did Liz ever do the video on unionized hospitals?

@churchofpos2279 2 года назад

I quit earlier this year. We already had lost 1/3 of our staff. I did not give 2 weeks notice Management tried to guilt me by telling me that my co-workers would be under stress, because I was going to leave the more understaffed. Told the Manager, since I no longer worked there and I didn't create the problem, it would was not my problem.

@IsaacMakana 2 года назад

As always, I own you and expect your full dedication and your life is this hospital. (But as your CNO, I will be available for just 1 hr a week randomly to hear your thoughts and I might work 40 hrs a week to earn my 400k. I have a family, so may not be able to be here all 40 hrs.)

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Hahahaha excellent. And 100% accurate

@LarryRupp Год назад

you sound jealous, not a good look for anyone. Deb, is not running the show. How has everyone missed that. Mason is running the show and Deb is just a puppet. Mason approves of Deb or she is out and off her cushion. She gets paid to take the heat for mason as well. This big business and medical means very little.

@alexwyler4570 2 года назад

With nurses going to jail now, is it smart for a nurse to work OT? Regular hours allow enough recovery for a nurse to do a good job.

@ajnn5486 2 года назад

They need to look into was the laws are in their state. My state says there is no mandatory overtime except in times if “state of emergency” like Covid and/or applies only to certain institutions like a nursing home, etc. but at the same time, you are allowed and obligated to not work shifts if you feel you cannot provide safe and quality care. It’s your license. My school made us do a lot of work in regards to legal/political/justice avenues

@purplenights1 2 года назад

If you refuse to work overtime when asked, it is considered "abandoning your post", and you can be terminated and lose your license for failing to provide adequate, quality care when needed.

@LarryRupp Год назад

the weakest link in the chain should have fired. You can state I cannot deliver safely and leave. I was a boss, those words meant substandard to the chain, 86.

@frenchie4882 2 года назад

The whole “heroes work here” didn’t last very long did it?

@LemansSunset350 2 года назад

Exactly!! Our nurses are only worth pizza and ice cream 🙄

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

For real. She tore down that sign real quick lol

@monapeacewalker4000 2 года назад

Deb lacks humanity. This is what happens when a person withholds compassion. This is why she can't understand or create a functional environment. We need nurses to be happy and cared for. Deb has to go...

@cynthiaarrowsmith5709 2 года назад

Perfect example of why we are quitting our nursing jobs.

@rayne7340 2 года назад

I was totally manipulated into working overtime pro bono ( I was salaried) by the older, seasoned RN staff in my department. They imposed guilt tactics. It is entirely true that an old RN will eat their young- not in every case but I definitely experienced it. I worked in wound care which is not an emergency or stat department, it typically follows business hours (7:30 am- 4pm). The older RNs would say, “We have a strong work ethic here to see all of our patients on our list.” Our team was also on call on the weekends for no pay, as a “courtesy”. Before I accepted the position I specifically asked HR if I received pay for being on call and was told yes. So many lies.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Ugh I'm so sorry you experienced that!

@lisaeischens2352 2 года назад

I did one salary CNM job and would never do it again. All the other RNs had only ever worked at this one place and they routinely stayed 9-10 hours a day. I would leave after my 8 hour shift and would get such dirty looks and was given the cold shoulder from the get go. I’m not working for free. There were times when we were essentially forced to stay because there weren’t enough LPN’s and CNAs so we would have to do the med cart and general cares. It’s really fun to pass meds when you’ve never done it at this facility with it taking me forever to finish because I couldn’t find anything without digging through the whole cart. I felt like pulling my hair out after 14 hours. I left after 6 months along with 16 LPNs and 1 new RN graduate. They couldn’t figure out why staff kept quitting.

@mrs.c5471 2 года назад

I hope you left?

@cwmoore7000 2 года назад

Well said. I have been in nursing for 40 years; it took me 30 to figure this out.

@barbhoward2761 2 года назад

I wish all nurses and our Congressmen that are fighting for nurses would watch this video. As always, Retired RN

@LarryRupp Год назад

i would hope a congressman whose agenda is for nurses, knows way more than this, or should. Video states the obvious.

@annfuller9044 2 года назад

Even if you have a calling it doesn't mean you the nurse does not use selfcare, set boundaries. Please stop saying a calling makes you a pawn in someone else's ill treatment. It is a thing that comes from history and anthropology.

@deecee901 2 года назад

Pretty soon there will be NO nurses left. I left hospital 22 years ago and I'm happy & loving it!

@LarryRupp Год назад

no always nurses. Soon the men will take over and only the good females will surviive. The men are taking over the lead roles as I write. I was chef and moved over in 2008, quick ASN after a bachelors in another profession. Was offered a bosses position almost immediately having been a boss.

@hadgit60 2 года назад

I feel for those nurses. I can't imagine doing 4 12's. I never pick up. 36 hours a week is enough. This CNO should step down. This CNO is doing thing that should have just been her job..nothing special from what I heard. Smh

@andratoma9834 2 года назад

We are FIGHTING for Overtime in New York City… and you complain about it? Really? Seriously wow! This week I worked 16 ( sixteen) hour shifts. Three c 16 h shifts in 3 consecutive days! And I ish I had one more

@hadgit60 2 года назад

@@andratoma9834 You should have a choice to work overtime. Overtime shouldnt be required.

@katethegreat4918 2 года назад

@@andratoma9834 You long for it, but that doesn’t make their situation any better. It stinks that you don’t have enough hours, but I suspect that these nurses have been overworked and mistreated for a long time. Mandatory Overtime doesn’t help. Especially if they’re trying to find another job.

@HeyMsVal 2 года назад

@@andratoma9834 Three 16 hour shifts consecutively! Wow. But no thanks. Wouldn't want you to be my nurse. How could you possibly give decent care?

@Joel-wx7zk 2 года назад

@@andratoma9834 There's a difference between voluntary overtime and mandatory overtime. I also question the quality of care from someone working 3x-4x 16 hr shifts consecutively. Logistically it would make more sense for you to go into travel nursing to increase your pay without the need for added OT. Most people work to live, not live to work.

@alejandroelcid 2 года назад

Doctors recommend being snarky, as needed. So...bring out all that snarkiness. Also, after a quick Google search she seems very pleased of herself, being CNO and being an UNLV PhD student. She reminds me of a doctor in my previous job where he would say that he would never give any praises, only say what you were doing wrong, so that you didn't feel good about your job; as an incentive to work harder. Yeah, that doesn't work too well.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

oh gosh that sounds like an awful work environment. I'm really glad thats your previous job and not your current one! I didn't google her to find out about her personally yet because I didn't want it to influence the video but now i'm intrigued and may have to do some digging

@BlueJeansandJellyBeans 2 года назад

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard, pointing out your faults to get you to work harder? Bye👋...

@norxgirl1 2 года назад

Typical "Authoritarian" mindset....

@mrs.c5471 2 года назад

She sounds more like a professional student, rather than a nurse

@LarryRupp Год назад

you've drawn some pretty rigid conclusions here. I was a boss and a very good one. As a good one, I complimented for a while and then never a single compliment again. Why? Catholic teaching translate not tipping extra which is self promoting, hey look at me Mr. Bigshot or complimenting someone for what is expected of them. Pointing out what you are doing wrong is called training, what's that? Assuming he is dogging you in an attempt to create uneasiness for you is absurd. You quit he trains. Happens again and again at a huge inconvenience and expense. His actions are not about you unless he is attracted to you, period. Is he? If not, your just there and he is indifferent whether you stay or go. NEEDING praise is a huge red flag. Not being able to be wrong and corrected is a second red one. Knowing his mind and therefore his motivations, 3 strikes your out. Maybe the problem is internal?

@BillBennettYoga 2 года назад

Complete gas lighting from a narcissist in a Typical in administration role. I’m in a open heart icu. Everyone’s left We have no staff except the gargoyles. Gargoyles are the nurses that have been there since the beginning of time. And they wait for new blood to come in their unit so they feed.

@jackiesesthetics88 2 года назад

God I love this channel. Thank you for your advocacy ❤️.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Thanks for being here!!

@kimberlykay1495 2 года назад

I worked 12 years as a nurse. At one point, for two years I worked 60 hours a week. I had 2-4 days off a month. All 12+ hour shifts. Obviously, I burnt out. I took some time off and learned boundaries, it’s okay to say no, etc. I come from childhood trauma and abuse, and because a people pleaser. I’ve done a lot of growing in the last few years, thankfully. Don’t let many a a manager just like this

@thewellfedhuman3043 2 года назад

She is citing the tens of millions of dollars spent on travel nurses as something their staff should be grateful for? That is hilarious. If they didn't treat their nurses like shit they would be able to recruit and retain staff nurses. It is their own fault they even NEED travel nurses! Hilarious. I mean she is totally clueless. "Non-profit" means we need to spend all of the profit on administrative salaries. I'm a highly experienced RN who left nursing last year. It's a shame because there are probably millions of nurses like me who absolutely refuse to be abused any longer. I'm also a licensed esthetician and I can make WAY more money doing Brazilian bikini waxing than I can administering chemotherapy or bone marrow transplant, which was my specialty. Something is seriously wrong with that.

@augustvirgo6773 2 года назад

Our Hospital is banking on those new grads they pull in about four times per year. They hired some Travelers on our unit stating it's temporary, but new grads aren't coming like they used to. This is a place where the Auditorium is usually packed with 150 or more new Nurses. It's a teaching Hospital more like a revolving door. A lot of new Nurses are looking to Travel they say it's all about business and they have loans to pay.

@mrs.c5471 2 года назад

Sorry but the “incentive” funds were PAID by the TAXPAYER, NOT the hospital!

@LarryRupp Год назад

sorry MRS C, the hospital is owned by Clark County who is the taxpayers. What's your point?

@jessehitt959 2 года назад

In my nursing career, I have found others telling themselves, "I need this job...". That's a lie, and as long as you tell yourself that lie, the hospital has you where they want you. The truth is..."I need A job...it doesn't have to be this one".

@purplenights1 2 года назад

I would dx her as a narcissist. She knows all, and everyone else knows nothing. I would be really angry with this person talking about MY workplace. Stay in your own lane, NP.

@LarryRupp Год назад

I was a psyche specialty and had both a hosp job and private practice, mostly counseling. Many RN's have issues and many came to me, a colleague and a peer. Co dependence and substance abuse seem to be promiscuous in this thing of ours. Many co dependents seek the path of least resistance. Many substance abusers have self esteem issues. Quitting and moving on requires two things. Esteem and the ability to disappoint someone you've been loyal to. That loyalty has value if you think it will be returned. 300k Deb is about 300k and not RN salary. Why is everyone so surprised. She's not going back to the ranks ever, ever again. Nurses, continue to act needy and be treated as needy! Job security has a value, like every thing. Basic (x,y) package. How much are you willing to give up in cash for job security. My answer is very little. I want more cash now and less promise of a future. I was good and could spit shine at an interview. I never worked at a place for new grad of nurse 1 pay. i demo'd my skills ans made demands. You say no it is to the back my head as I'm going out the door! I was usually better presented than the interviewer, and definitely more educated, excluding nursing when I was still green.

@sophiagonzalez1746 2 года назад

Thank you Liz, for all the information. That’s why I would not work in a hospital again. Sophia BSN, RN. Fed up with them. I regret ever going into the nursing profession. We never reviewed hazard pay. Insult was a $5 meal ticket for Christmas!

@LarryRupp Год назад

Even I, Mr Gratitude, would have a tough time choking down the $5. lol

@meganblanchard8759 2 года назад

Oof. And this is in part why I just left my bedside hospital job.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Same. Mandating was possibly the number one reason I left my bedside job

@ramelchilds7416 2 года назад

We lost Crisis/COVID pay in January but we did get a raise by a couple dollars, granted I am a CNA so I make half as much as the nurses where I am (I make $18/hr nurses make about $36-40+)

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

I’m glad they gave you a raise but holy crap I am always blown away by how underplayed CNA’s are. You make the hospital function and deserve to be compensated for that

@travelnurseadventures3225 2 года назад

Yep my covid pay lasted two weeks and it was 10 bucks, G*d only knows what the ceo/mds/corp staff was getting 🙄

@freereinartstudio1463 2 года назад

Thank you! I am a Patient Care Tech, just another name for CNA, and run by behind off at work for the whole 12 hr. shift! Most days I log in 7+ miles in steps per shift. Thank you for recognizing the CNA & PCT's (and all the other lower rung workers) value to the running of the hospital. :)

@jenmharmon 2 года назад

I had an employer tell us that we should be coming to work to help people even if we weren’t getting paid. Like we should just volunteer to be a nurse anyway even if we weren’t an employed professional. 😂 ummmmm no. 😳

@Tribuneoftheplebs 2 года назад

Omg was this a union job? Absolute insanity

@ExerciseRiderMissE 2 года назад

Honestly, I think there is no amount of money that would make me want to stay in such a toxic environment like that.

@theadventuresofwizardtom2436 2 года назад

I worked in the ER at UMC for years. The reason people stay is that they really do have a great retirement plan. We called it the "velvet handcuffs". When I first came to Vegas in 1995 UMC not only had the best benefits, but also had the highest pay in town. That slowly dwindled over the years. I retired during the pandemic and all the bull @hit. Happy now.

@MNP208 2 года назад

Only older nurses were kept in those pension plans. They are the ones who stayed. The recent grads have no reason to stay for less hourly pay. These companies aren't loyal to them so why would they?

@rayne7340 2 года назад

Tom are you still eligible for their retirement plan?

@LarryRupp Год назад

I had several jobs with zero contribution to retirement. They scheduled me as they needed and called me, Doubles, 10 in a row, 12 x 7 weeks, anything was good with Larry, RN extraordinaire. Truth be told, I negotiated my own pay with each changing assignment. I made above union scale which is legal. I made my own path when the available path was un acceptable.

@lauriebaker927 2 года назад

Wow! This is crazy. On the news it said they were being mandated 12 hrs/week. That’s just too much! I only work part time nowadays. If I was mandated to work 48 hours/week I would resign. I’ve worked hard and paid off debt, and live simply. I love being a nurse, but I won’t be manipulated like that.

@travelnurseadventures3225 2 года назад

Unfortunately we are not a capitalist society-we are a corporatist society. That’s why supply and demand is only for the CEOs etc

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

THIS!

@travelnurseadventures3225 2 года назад

@@NurseLiz thank you for all you do! Love your videos and I text your videos to all my fellow travel nurses!

@joycecolella1444 Год назад

Stop! LOL. You are so funny! You are absolutely getting the truth out there! I was laughing so hard for you just calling “Deb out and your voice…. I could hardly breathe. We all thank you “Deb!” Liz, you have to write a book! No, a few books! Audible would also be great because wen I am tired I lay back and listen.

@denise331 2 года назад

This is one of my favorite videos!! I’ve watched it several times & sent to my nurse friends! Excellent job Nurse Liz!! LOVE IT!!!💖🙏🏾

@LilzysBalooga23 2 года назад

Yes unions vid please! 🙏🏼 I'm currently in school for nursing and love watching your videos and live streams to be informed and educated about what to expect and on what's going on in the nursing/Healthcare world.

@mrs.c5471 2 года назад

How sad that even WITH overtime the nurses are still making less than other hospital employees.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

For real. Embarrassing for tHat hospital

@brendabelcher3197 2 года назад

The emotional manipulation starts in nursing school.

@kayduplin4940 2 года назад

I left a few jobs because there were too many patients and it's too much on the body for total care patients over 300 lbs. I also left a hospital job because I was told to lie and chart I rounded every hour on the hour. I sad no and left.

@LarryRupp Год назад

did you report them appropriately or leave them for the next new hire? lots of complaining, any solutions?

@kayduplin4940 Год назад

@@LarryRupp as a matter of fact, I did. My y patients are more important than corporate

@Skapiemhe 2 года назад

As always (I am so happy I am making in excess of $300 000 and can treat you lowly RNs however I want)… Deb

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

hahahaha SPOT ON

@brendaswolfe1435 2 года назад

I think the reason nurses take it is because that's what we are taught in school. All of these problems were in full display in nursing school. Then in 20 years of nursing I found that it was very rare to be treated like I had value yet it's all my fault if things don't work when I'm not there. They short staff and then want me to risk my license while working in those conditions. I'm on disability for PTSD and a large part of it was from how I was treated in nursing. I tried different kinds of nursing (inpatient-outpatient and different specialties) ALL were like this. I would rather die than go back to medicine in any form. Even if I was being paid this kind of money, I spent a lot of time in the ER as a patient and I have neurological issues from constant high levels of stress. I haven't worked since 2008 and I STILL have nursing nightmares. This letter is a great example of the medical field eating its own. They are running out all the nurses who care and leaving the ones who are only there for the money. Too many nurses don't care and are like this. I had aides, other nurses, as well as supervisors treat me like this and the backstabbing among coworkers is horrific. I NEVER recommend people go into this profession. I actually actively discourage people from going into medicine.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Ugh I'm so sorry that happened to you! But thank you for sharing your experience

@deannerost8706 2 года назад

The hospital would probably save money by paying their nurses better rather than using travel nurses so heavily. As a staff nurse in a NICU, we did OT usually 8-12 hours a pay period but the upside of this was we weren't expected to float to other units. We took care of our own needs and it worked out great. As a manager, I allowed nurses to sign up for OT before scheduling out of the prn pool or agency nurses. This was so my nurses got first choice rather than having to cover less desirable shifts per the staffs request. My only rule was that once they committed and the final schedule was posted they were responsible for the shift's coverage if they changed their minds (there were exceptions but they were limited). When working OT or off shifts had to be mandatory it was divided equally between everyone and this included myself. I never asked staff to do something I wasn't willing to do. This CNO is out of touch with reality. If the hospital wants to improve things for their nurses, increasing pay equal to the area they live in, and get a CNO with some people skills.

@LarryRupp Год назад

People skills, she's got them. She must also have AU down where it counts. She was an RN and now, CEO Mason is paying her 300k, 6k a week. I suspect with only thousands of years of recent Hx behind me, the boss and the underling doing the dirty. Sung to "The Wild Thing, "she likes to do the Van Houwelling thing. The boss sang it, dancing in the dark.

@Yassss-rj9zf 2 года назад

I used to go above beyond plus always pick up shifts. Post Covid I work weekend option, 2 12hr shifts and get paid for 40hrs each weekend. I don’t pick up anymore. EVER.

@bdx96 2 года назад

I'd love to hear your opinion on Thedacare in Wisconsin trying to sue Ascension, and the judge that granted the order that temporarily prevented the health care workers from quitting and starting their new jobs at Ascension. This was back in January, but it's a whole hot mess.

@norxgirl1 2 года назад

Lehtos Law did some good reviews on this on YT....where I first learned about it....smh .....don't remember the outcomes ....

@lisaeischens2352 2 года назад

When I first started nursing in 1991 they would actually give us a gift for Christmas along with a nice little dinner but that stopped long ago without so much as a card. I wonder what the CEO is making and other managerial jobs.

@angeliquerider-mitchell2538 2 года назад

How is she able to get away with this? Where is SEIU on this? The only pretense that ( kinda) justifies mandatory overtime is being short on staff. But she completely outs her sadistic self by acknowledging it's her choice how long it lasts dependant on the contrition of the nursing staff. No mention of increasing hiring to solve the problem. This woman has no business in administration, it's clearly gone to her head.

@ScienzNerd 2 года назад

Unionized healthcare worker here: I'd welcome your take on Union organizations. I don't feel represented, because there's no mechanism to address what was covered in your video. My coworkers dislike the culture of being a cog in a machine. The Big U Union can only address salary/benefits. My mental well-being is just as material as a proper wage.

@kathyadair8552 2 года назад

Yes. They should be providing FREE *EMDR*/ 'Trauma Therapy' - for every Nurse & "Corp. DOC" with PTSD!! They won't even acknowledge or recognize Complex / or "c-PTSD," YET!! Your Live's aren't Any more valuable than their patients! *Para$iTe$* & BLOOD•$uK'R$ while the "getting is Good". BURNING it All to the Ground for their Golden Parachute's!

@bethanyhdbd3377 2 года назад

If the Hero bonus is what I think it is, it was given by the government to the hospitals to give their staff. I believe at least part of their NSI, was also funded by the government. My place of work called it Warrior bonus and ESI.

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Thanks for the insight!

@GirlofNicky 2 года назад

Agreed. Our Hospital took the money but gave us No hazard pay. At the end of the peak when the crush if patients with delayed care came in they only gave extra money if you wirked over time.🙄There shoukd hsve been conditions fir this money

@caj5307 Год назад

I love that you called everything out as it is. Need more people like you who aren’t afraid to speak up about the corruption happening in healthcare.

@NurseLiz Год назад

Why thanks!

@chayanneamador8754 2 года назад

Actually UPS treats their staff in that same way…the loaders got some pay cut off and the drivers are under constant abuse.

@LarryRupp Год назад

this is a business concept called right sizing, necessary to thrive. every dept has a budget for payroll. Be willing to fit or stay and be miserable or leave. UPS jobs, other than temp, is extremely hard to get. Why? check the pension plan. I wish they would abuse me.

@ashtonstevens6171 2 года назад

They are very good at manipulating. I will go to work dead if I could. I rarely ever call out. The first time I ever did as a new quiet nurse, I really needed to. The call out (with the house sup) then consisted of her asking me every detail (which I know isn't appropriate) and an extremely rude lecture about how I'm going to leave them short that night and I should come to work anyways. I'm glad I didn't give in; I was having disorienting side effects on a new medication and probably would've made a mistake if I went in. When it was finished, she told me I needed to "make it up". I ended the call in tears it was so bad. I told other coworkers about it and they dealt with similar things from the same supervisor.

@nimblepodcast5282 2 года назад

You're the best. I just found you and I'm so glad we are finally talking about these things in public. I've been a bedside nurse for 10 years, in Canada and USA. The profession I truly loved has been destroyed by greed and abusive higher-ups preying on our goodwill. It's unacceptable.

@LarryRupp Год назад

Is there greed in direct conflict with yours?

@meluvfriends 2 года назад

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR NEVER STOP 😂😂

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

lol thanks!

@SweetT77777 2 года назад

Deb is being roasted and I like it!!!!

@robinhensley6228 2 года назад

Hire the teamsters union to represent nurses. Great job! Great discussion. About to retire and leave the tyranny.

@LarryRupp Год назад

What year did Deb get out of CNU-Cosa Nostra University. Great lead in!

@minnesotagirl7458 2 года назад

Just curious… do pilots have this crap pulled on them… unsafe!!!!!!

@ehh2681 2 года назад

When I first started working at a local hospital as a patient tech, they offered me $11.50/hr. I accepted because I wasn’t aware of the current pay that people were receiving to do the same thing. I started working there and sad to say, I quit within 2 weeks. I didn’t realize how horrible the conditions were until I started on the floor and the attitudes I seen everyday, along with the patient/staff ratio was just too much for me for only $11.50/hr. I just recently applied to a Medical assistant job (currently in nursing school) and they offered me 15.50/hr RIGHT AWAY. Like. Without question. I then of course agreed, and I love this place so much that I’ve even thought of working here when I finish nursing school. I do much easier work as an MA, and get paid 35% more than I was making as a PCT. I now realize that I made an amazing decision to leave while I was still shadowing.

@TheKeKe313 4 месяца назад

None of this surprises me... And of course she had nothing to say when her bs letter blew up. I hate these hospital administrators and corporate narcissists. I ALWAYS promote for front line nurses to LEAVE and work agency or find something different completely. If all the nurses leave, it will CRASH these hospitals.

@michellemagana402 2 года назад

Loved this vid! Thanks for calling out the injustices happening right now!

@elizabethcarney3608 2 года назад

I hope these nurses decided to leave & let Deb take care of the patients!

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

In that case, those poor patients😂

@ykwtfim Год назад

I consistently watch this channel to keep myself grounded in reality as I prepare for nursing school& beyond. Idk if it’s a part of my neurodivergence or not, but I really love idealizing, especially plans I’ve made for myself. I knew nursing was a hard job particularly with respect to staffing issues, but I didn’t know the dirty details before I found this channel, and I was golden-retriever excited about nursing school. I’m still excited, but I don’t think I’ll be so blindsided by the inevitable difficulties now. I’ve been obsessively watching, and I hope that I’m doing something positive in regards to the algorithm with my obsession😅

@susynne2124 2 года назад

That voice sounds to me like the Queen of Hearts: "off with their heads" ! ;)

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

😂 This pleases me

@adriannee.1030 2 года назад

Just got mandatory OT'd by my CN yesterday... Lost my shit and said NO... they called my Supervisor... all the same shit about how everyone is doing ot and we all have families and all that shit... Everyone in my house has Covid except me... but that didn't matter... I was there last best hope... the house super just kept saying "we need you to stay"... I said what about my 86 YO mom... "we need you to stay"... felt like they didn't give a shit about my mom... only about them... which pretty much sums it up. This is abuse... looking to either take a stand or find another way to make a living... I love being a nurse but this sucks

@Furryfeather 2 года назад

Insulting to your intelligence & brain for them to think you are enslaved and incapable of finding employment elsewhere. This notice posted to any other employment sector would cause laughs & loss of labor.. pick a day and let the call offs begin and the mandates will quickly go away. Make same money at Costco If they payed you better you might actually find volunteers. Pay $100 an hour for extra shifts and watch the quality improve

@lesleyatcofo 9 месяцев назад

I'm working as a CNA considering going through an accelerated BSN program... This happens at the nursing home I work at.

@suecbrn 2 года назад

Duress is not equal to volunteering. Mandating that the nurses do overtime vs. reducing volumes to meet what staff they have, is a dangerous way to "solve" a problem. Once again another healthcare executive views their nursing staff as property, not as human beings with whom she can do whatever she wants. Another example of really poor leadership.

@crochetbyterry8655 2 года назад

I'm giving you the gift of added Covid exposure. Maybe you'll get it and free up a position for a GN who I can pay much less. I call that a win-win. Love, Deb

@LarryRupp Год назад

very conspiratorial, love it!

@LemansSunset350 2 года назад

I enjoy your sense of humor so much!!! 😂👏

@NurseLiz 2 года назад

Thanks friend!!

@gainerman 2 года назад

If you can hand somebody there azz on a dirty trash can lid with a absolute poker face , you can make 400k a year too.and spelling doesn't matter . Big money is in having no emotion.