This book changes my life. The metaphysics of quality is a key to problem solving and I use it on a daily basis. Dynamic and static value open the door to that other map for navigating every day challenges and seeing reality in its most basic form.
How lucky I was to get in touch with this genius! And how brave of me to persevere in reading its two books UNTIL I understood its MOQ fully. Thabks soo much, dr Pirsig!
I love Zen and the Art. I´m still processing it since 1 year ago, when I finished reading it. Maybe I´m ready for Lila. Robert Pirsig is a true philosopher of this times, as great as those great greek ones.
For such a heavy topic, metaphysics, epistemology, Kantian philosophy, I thought Pirsig did a Herculean job making it clear and comprehensible. Pirsig complained way back around 1970 about society being, "an endless parade of trivia and fashion." Boy, could we use Pirsig now to attempt to dismantle social media. A professor in England who worked with Pirsig told me that he had a high regard for Joseph Campbell
Pirsig mentions ''Masks of God'' in Lila, which is the title of a series of books written by Joseph Campbell. In Lila there is also a passage on the meaning and 'truth' about dreams, which implicitly suggests Pirsig might have been a fan of Carl Jung as well. If anything, both Jungian psychology and the work of Joseph Campbell go very well with Pirsig's own thought. :)
This interview answered one question and raised another. For years, I wondered why Pirsig didn't produce any more work. Now I wonder why more writers don't stop when they have said all they need (or want) to say.
We need this exploration and psychic integration with this thing that Prisig calls 'Quality' more than ever. It is essential for us to go forward as a species.
“Lila is a Sanskrit noun meaning ”sport” or “play” that has been the central term in the Hindu elaboration of the idea that God in his creating and governing of the world is moved not by need or necessity but by a free and joyous creativity that is integral to his own nature”...
@@ranga386fe I was going to add that of course in ascribing these attributes to God we are in fact merely projecting our own nature and inclinations onto Him. For isn’t it true that of all of God’s creatures we are the Supreme Beings of Sport and Play. We invent so many things to amuse ourselves with and remould Nature in so many different ways that other animals which share this speck of dust called Earth with us simply cannot.
Why people would never understand it all the way, he spends 15 years writing it, and the average person maybe took 1 week to read it there is asymmetrical in it. You have to read every passage and think hard about it and not move on until you understand it, it may take 15 years but that's fine
Thank you Robert. Wow. Just as I read Lila you spoke just now: spooky! Happy Halloween day buddy love you buddy thank you buddy for your kindness and grace and divinity
I read both books at least ten times each. It wasn't that he wasn't clear about the expression of his ideas on the MOQ that has more to do with my lack of intelligence.
Ha die Tjeerd, Geweldig dat ik -naar ik aanneem- een andere Nederlander tref die dit boek hoog heeft zitten. Denk dat mijn teller inmiddels ook de 10 aantikt… en ook voor mij geldt dat het niet de laatste keer is dat ik m lees. (Zit halverwege).
I was always fascinated with his meeting with Robert Redford who was interested in making a movie of ZAAMM. I was always taken by the fact that Redford became skeptical towards him because he was too willing to allow Redford to do what he wanted to do in terms of the treatment of the book. Did i misinterpret this? Like ZAAMM, Lila is a book worth reading more than once!
To some people writers block is an essential part of the creative process. To me it's a symptom of inadequacy, or a fear of being exposed and not being able to meet my own expectations.
Probably irrelevant, but I have been creating Zen and the Art of …….. ideas. Chess. Zen and the Art of Chess. As a youth, my brother would beat me in chess. It bothered me. As an adult, I play chess with my son. Only sporadically because we are over 2,000 miles apart. My son is very bright and he beats me. I want to focus on our time together. I attempt to be very Zen. I have purchased a number of books on chess. Jeremy Silman. Jeremy associates chess and Zen. Chess engines offer game analysis. Chess notation allows one to document their game. Analyzing a game and noticing emotions helps me with chess and Zen. A friend mentioned The Way of the Peaceful Warrior. Pirsig has Phadra. Millman has Socrates. Socrates is a sort of Zen master with a sense of humor. Pirsig does not seem to have a sense of humor. Electroconvulsive Therapy seems very dark in Pirsig’s book. As in movies. My father had Electroconvulsive Therapy. I was very young. My mother didn’t know how to talk about it to me. So I had a very scary view of it. I am reading a book by Guy Winch. He says that contrary to the public perception of Electroconvulsive Therapy, it is benign and helpful.
What piercing doesn't understand is that people's primary motivation is avoidance of shame. Even the most intelligent people are not going to admit pure truth. Even the ones that want to. This is why you don't get the proper response to your book. This is what makes you one of the most naive people while still being so intelligent and so accurate about reality. I feel your sadness that nobody responds correctly to it.
Love his books, and find it highly underated. One questions to any person who know the book '"Lila" on page 231: It's the secret smile of a judge who has been overthrown and surpressed for the good of social progress. I know women who dont like it because of this, could perhaps anybody give me an explanation? (of the good of social progress) thx
LOOK AT THE KATRAS - DIGESTION SEX AND SELF ARE THE FIRST THREE, THE 4TH IS THAT OF THE HEART AND SOCIALCONNECTION. SO, THERE IS ACTION THAT IS BUDDHA QUALITY AND ACTION THAT IS ANIMAL QUALITY.
No. Disagree. Lila was great for me to read. I was ready to read it when it came out. I had no idea it even existed when I found it. No worries. You might like it one day.
This is very interesting. He's a very intelligent person who doesn't seem to realize that most people aren't. Even most smart people aren't that intelligent. It doesn't surprise me at all that so many people like it but can't understand it
