"We'll never catch him, he's using a PROXY!" "Proxy?" "Think of it like four bears, standing atop of each other. The one below passes information in the form of hexadecimal kilobytes. The one in the middle is riding a unicycle, which is the IP address of the hacker's network system interface data" "IP address?" "It's like rain, when you're already late. Think of it as 10000 spoons when all you need is a knife" "Spoon?" "Imagine a spork without the fork part, and a clan of mermaids that..." Etc.
3PiecesOfBread Technically it would be somewhat plausible (yet ridicusly stupid and waste of time) to create a GUI for something as trivial as tracing an IP.. The whole "get a damn warrant and ask the ISP responsible for the IP at this given time" isnt what cool enough. But straight out setting an alarm to monitor every single possible IRC server - even those NOT advertised. Checking every SINGLE channel for those names. And for two "l337 hax0rs" to use a public channel named #channel.. on "port_6667" (as opposed to actually port 6667 ) Yeah. Totally legit. Oh.. Here are two completely secret hackers chatting in this channel. Oh hey.. Someone else just joined the chatroom.. No problem. We are speacking l337 so this unknown random guy whom we didnt expect at all properbly wont be any problem. We dont need to use the very possibilities in IRC to have a direct private chat. Nooo.. We do all our secret meetings in channel named #channel which is completely public... I say this one really is worse than anything so far.
+kriss3d But she didn't say gui she said gui interface. So a gui gui. And she never said if the buttons would do anything. Pretty sure you can't make a ip tracker with vb. So she would have a radio button in VB that says track ip adress that does nothing.
BoyTitan Oh you can easily make an IP tracker in VB. Though its utterly pointless since A) Either you got the IP of the target and you just ask his ISP who have that IP assigned at that specific time. or B) You have something like a username of a person you just look up in the IRC they were using at that time to find his IP (Though if they bounce off anything which any good script kid knows, they will have to start chasing logfiles from various ISPs) So sure you can make a GUI for it. But if they have to contstruct it first its stupid as they wont get much more info than what a whois, ping and tracert would provide them. Anything else is strictly speaking illegal unless they get some court orders.
I most enjoyed them magically setting an alarm for every channel ever that will tell them when these two hackers, who will never change their screennames ever, start chatting to each other. Oh, and in LEETSPEEK
"in case youre too smart to understand a simple and primitive chatting program, let me explain you the hard way by representing it with smuggler boats and fancy cgi animations"
Urgh. I just threw up in my mouth there. Pausing at 1:10 where you see the servername being - and i quote: #channel Irc So these guys have a server named #Channel Irc and the channelname is #Channel Well that could be a name for a channel but frankly a channel with the name "channel".. not very original. But ok. Ill buy that. Then the hacers go into this #channe and start talking. They dont just PM eachother. Noo.. They make it a public channel. Not even setting a password. That extra user in that channel shouldnt be causing any problems. I really admire the law enforcement. If NSA is just as good to be able to monitor every single IRC server there is.. WOW.. just.. WOW..
I love how they went into holodeck mode during her "explanation " and had summation signs flying all over the place. I can already imagine how the conversation in the design dept went. " Ummm.... summation, log log, summation, fractions, sine waves, function, function inverse, recurrence relations! Let's call it a day! "
(Piss. RU-vid cut off my response, forgive any frankness please.) IRC is a protocol for sending text over a network. ie: Chatting- admittedly other things, but in practice chatting. The internet gets called a platform a lot too, and it's just a couple data transfer protocols and some data distributed on servers. How do you define platform? To me it's a very general thing. Primitive is a bit tougher to defend. It was created in 1988 (www.mirc.com/jarkko.html), which isn't exactly dinosaur-esque, but is a long time for a software convention to survive. You could also define it by its popularity, and IRC's never been a mainstream thing, but lost a lot of users in the early 2000s when http and web forums got big. If you'd like to say they're arguably wrong, I don't have much problem, but don't go acting like it's obvious, especially to casual observers. (Aside: And I get the trend of laughing at cringey tech-talk on crime programs like this. This just seems to be one of the least cringey examples where everyone acts like it is.)
Allen Baker IRC is a protocol, yes. Not a platform. Do you know the difference? Wikipedia defines a platform as "a computing platform is, in the most general sense, whatever pre-existing environment a piece of software is designed to run within, obeying its constraints, and making use of its facilities. Typical platforms include a hardware architecture, an operating system (OS), and runtime libraries", while a communication protocol is "a defined set of rules and regulations that determine how data is transmitted in telecommunications and computer networking." In other words a communication protocol is a system of rules for data exchange within or between computers, defining the syntax, semantics, and synchronization of communication. A platform is just a implementation of those rules in an operating system, browser or program. A familiar example of a protocolling language is the HTML language used to describe web pages which are the actual web protocols. You know that IP was created 41 years ago - back in 1974, right? Does that mean IP is primitive? That does not hold up, does it?Just because something is _old_ does not mean it's _primitive_. IRC is a protocol and there're loads of slim good looking IRC clients out there. You don't have to sit in a terminal for IRC.
+Markus Actually it's super primitive ... a session looks like (if we were in the channel #youtubeloosers): :marcus!mark@some.hostname.net PRIVMSG #youtubeloosers :Hey guys, what's up? :nezZario!nobody@some.otherhost.net PRIVMSG #youtubeloosers :Not much just waching dumbass youtube videos, lol :marcus!mark@some.hostname.net PRIVMSG #youtubeloosers :Oh ok I gotta go mom needs a ride to the strip club :nezZario!nobody@some.otherhost.net PRIVMSG #youtubeloosers :K tell her I said whattup, later bro :marcus!mark@some.hostname.net PART #youtubeloosers :Gone fishin' And .. that's it... I mean that's the ACTUAL protocol... You and me would see it differently, like: yadda yadda blah blah or whatever.. however your client formatted it.. still just a super facepalm.. i mean geez... what they are implying here is just the same as saying Adobe Photoshop is only for super-genius government photo-editing spies
If they're like highly skilled "1337"s why do they had the need to make the computer make beeping noises every time a new letter appeared on their CMD window? (not to mention the window's slow as hell taking into account it's just a small sentence and they should have decent equipment)
and has been used by millions for more than a quarter century. I get the feeling that the writer of this episode asked his nephew or someone for a few "computer buzzwords" and just used them however he wanted.
I like how it takes her the same amount of time to set up an alarm that, in effect, constantly scans every single IRC channel in existence for two names, and allows them to view a private chat unnoticed, as it does for her to take a screen shot. Quite 1337.
(basing on port 6667) ..how hackers talk when they don't want to be overheard.. PLAINTEXT MESSAGES BABY! also.. "the fist" .. a space in the nickname *gags*
The worst part is that Amita felt the need to turn around, stand up and look Don straight in the eyes before offering her powerpoint-level explanation.
"They talk on IRC because there's no names or accounts and no records" "Alright, what screennames do they use, let's log in and watch for them" DERP DERP DERP.
I'll admit that I don't know a single damn thing about hacking apart from the fact that it's never like what you see in shows and movies, but this still makes my eyes roll into the back of my head.
So the two things I need confirmed for my own mind is that first, that woman at the computer, seriously terrible actress, right?? Nothing she said sounded even remotely believable. Second thing is, they used an absurd amount of CGI to bring her dumb metaphor to life, right??
