Numen, Nox & Nightfolk, Who Are They? | Elden Ring 

Thank you for making this video! I only recently started Elden Ring and chose Nightfolk because I liked the description and appearance. I was attacked by an invader called Festering Fingerprint Vyke, and I liked his spear and lore so much that I wanted to learn more about him. Turns out he was a Nightfolk too, so my mission in the game became to vindicate my distant relative. I love the lore and RP-ability in this game. I know I’m very late, but the DLC is coming soon!

Draconians are mysterious too

Interesting detail: the urumi description states ‘wielded like a whip by Nightfolk warriors.’ the urumi is a sword-whip closely resembling the nox flowing sword. Perhaps the nightfolk are dependents of the nox? Or of silver tears? And therefore the wield similar-yet-not-exactly-the-same weapons. The urumi is also found in caria manor, giving it more connection to the nox since we know the carians (or at least ranni) showed interest in the nox

Important note the descriptions of the maiden and swordstress actually suggest that the Nox are a matriarchal society with the night maidens being the highest members of the religious order and the swordtresses serving as their personal bodyguards. As for the women being more covered up I think you actually have it backwards. The veils over their eyes may actually serve as a symbol of divinity. It creates a barrier between the divine maidens and the lower class. Also in terms of modesty both the monk and maiden/swordstress sets cover up nearly the entire body but the female sets also accentuate their femininity which tells me it was likely something valued within their society. Other than that one detail I really like your theories! Keep up the great work!

My theory is pretty simply that the Nightfolk are a branch of the Nox that accepts the grace of gold. Silver blood is that of creatures that have not been graced by the Erdtree. So it makes sense that accepting grace would give you red blood.

Zuli the witch took off gideon's Mask and revealed he was a nightfolk

For some reason I read the thumbnail as "Numen For Nightfolk" and thought this is a video about their dating habits or something 🤣

I thought the Nightfolk were somewhat related to the Albinauric. The Albinauric enemies blood is silver-coloured and Latenna has a similar skin colour.

Comfy comparative mythology. Thank you for your thoughts. I personally like the association with hunters (Nox and Uhl/Uld ancestral worshippers) and the Night, very reminiscent of Artemis/Diana.

I think the nightfolk are the mimics because when the mimics take on a bipedal form it's the form of a nightfolk. Also I believe D's brother is a nightfolk as far as npcs go

There is a Zuillie the Witch video on the Nox potentially being at least related to the Numen. But the only lore information we have on the Nightfolk is the Urumi was used by their warriors. Hopefully we’ll get more information in the dlc about them.

I think the night folk are obviously connected to albinaurics/mimics. It’s very clear to me. I also definitely think the Nox and the Numen were one people separated by ideology/beliefs & agendas which resulted in a rift and eventually the banishment of a whole large swathe of Leyndell. Exactly below the capital city where above we are a massive empty void, there are ruins of a Nox/like city with a building style that matches the likes of Sellia, City of Sorcery, Nokron, Eternal city and Nokstella, Eternal city as well as what appears to be the civilian housing/public areas of Leyndell, Capital City.

Numen = New Man.

First off great vid! (Numen's Rune lolll) I love the possibility you implied that the nightfolk were turned into the silver tears. And the other possibilities. I have yet other offerings for thee. Both Tolkien's Numenor and From's eternal cities also share an origin inspiration. Atlantis. Furthermore, the Numena were the gods/spirits (of mundane acts of life like sweeping the house lol) of the Romans before they adopted greek mythos! There are male Numen!! The Onyx and Alabaster Lords. Everything the Order assimilates to gain power, it also turns around and suppresses the source of power both physically and politically. Marika is unique, this is the perspective propagated. The dragons were swept away. The Giants in a forbidden land. The Numen. The Helphen. Absorb the power, make everyone forget the process, mystifying a controlled population. I do think nox, nightfolk, onyx, and Alabaster, are all normalized nomenclature of the decimated numen peoples.

I love this video. I’ve subbed! I hope you make more content like this!

I don't think they would add Numen to character creation if they were all-female race. They would be unplayable race like Albenaurics then.

You are so close to 666 subs. I'm rooting for ya!

Very well thought. I made a post about the Thuatha de Dannan and the Fomorians, back in 2016, on the bloodborne lore reddit. But it seems to have upset many people so I got banned lol. Maybe I was too early in the lore game or too spot on.. But it is very nice to see someone else interested in the same Irish mythology, and to see the connections to Souls lore finally uneathed.

I would like to think that the nightfolk are a halfbreed between the numen who were banished to the underground and the nox who lived underground

I killed a big ant which dropped a numen rune, which hinted at a link between numen and marika and started looking for any related lore

You're hitting all the bases.

The silver tear enemies look alot like the night folk

Good video! Have my comment for the algorithm

The fact that you can choose a male Numen in character creation, and queen marika is rhatigan and she’s a numen so he is also probably a numen. Also Queen queen marika is Numen and she had children so why do you think Numen would reproduce in a different way

The Nox most likely created the night folk

the Numen are not people who sided with the greater will they are a race of people I have no idea where you had that idea

We can allude that there’s male numen since marika and radagon are the same of body but not of mind

Just found your channel. When you were talking about Radagon and Marika and how we don't see any male Numan ingame, what if we do? You said that we really don't know who or what Radagon really is. What if he's a Numan? What if he's Marika's twin brother? She did refer to him as 'mine other self' and it fits with how George R.R. Martin writes stuff. That could also be why Miquella and Malenia are cursed empyreans. Edit: posted too soon. Edit 2: grammar and spelling.

Are the hornsent technically numan. Because they do come from the land of shadows, which is the other world

The Nox are a group of Numan Not vice versa

Seeing this at 666 subscribers and 444 views is kinda cool 😅. Awesome video as well

I personally think nightfolk is a cop out because they didn’t think it’d be worth the effort to have custom blood colors. Being an rpg and the player being the only one the story is really left up to the individual. The most likely is descendant of nox, or some kind of mimic or nox experiment to create an Elden lord. The last one I like because your goal is to be Elden lord. But really it’s because they couldn’t call the race nox because there’s no silver blood for players, but that’s not a fun answer.

Maybe also have a look at the "Marebito".

Trying to figure out which race I chose, we now know the numen come from shadow of erdtree and nox from below. Maybe nameless city has something to do with nightfolk

I reckon the Nightfolk are half Nox half Albinauric/Silver Tear.

The outer God's are more likely to be like kami than livecraftian

Isn't it literally Dunedain not Doondeyn???

5:06 well there's Marika, who betrayed the greater will by shattering the Elden Ring

The knight folk are the mimic tears you see turn into humanoid beings...they look identical to night folk

Draconian next please if possible as in if there is enough material to work with is and your interested.

So, my gal and I were looking through the wiki, trying to figure out what’s the deal with the Numen when I noticed that the Eternal Cities are the only other place (that I could find) where “eternal” is used, outside of Marika. Then we did some theory crafting and, for the lols, I shall share this 4 am theory to you lot to be butchered. Enjoy! Nox are a people who defied the Greater Will by wearing class helmets to protect themselves, and were banished underground because of it. They’re incredible craftsmen and they have an incredible culture of matriarchy, too. The Nox are awaiting the Lord of Night to bring in the Age of Stars. They dress conservatively, their men are monks who might ride giant ants, but they defy the gods as a whole. One city, Nokron, is underneath the sorcerer city of Sellia. Sellia is where you can find the Nightmaiden Mist, a Nox spell that produces a life-sapping silver mist, but Sellia is also where you can find assassins who can turn invisible. Marika is a Numen, as are the Black Knife assassins. Numens are said to come from another world, yet the Japanese says that they’re said to come from somewhere other, with implications being the afterlife or the underworld. Nox have Nightmaidens, who wield small knives, and are protected by entourages of Swordstresses. If Marika, a Nox, was joined by Alecto, Tiche, and others…they would’ve been arriving above ground. Rather than adhere to their people’s ways, however, Marika was given the chance to be as beautiful and brazen as she wished to be, so long as she followed the Greater Will. Years later, her old accomplices, who have sold their skills as assassins with the help of Concealing Veils (which turn you invisible)….finally come poking around to find Marika has had a family, become queen, and is an immortal. Ranni, her stepdaughter, doesn’t wanna succeed the throne and wants to bring in the Age of Stars….so they trick Ranni into desperate action. Desperate action that allows them to punish Marika for her betrayal, will still bringing in Ranni as the Lord of Night: breaking the Golden Lineage with a bunch of Black Knives in Godwyn the Golden’s body. The Nox Flowing Hammer’s also fairly similar in proportions to Marika’s Hammer, and made from a similarly unorthodox substance and design~ Okay, time for rest!

Albinauric bleed silver could be related

Miquella is a numen since hes marikas son. I’d like to say male numens might be common

Fun question for everyone. At the end of elden ring, is Marika dead? I think not. My craziest theory is that Marika is in Melinas body. And that's why we only see Melina as an apparition. But more rationally I believe her hand in Ranni Black Knife Plot and subsequent Shatter was exactly more of what she said she was going to do. Study the depths of the golden older. I think any good scientist wants to know what happens when something shatters completely 😈. Anyways, can't observe the results if you're not there to, well, observe them Frankly, in Marikas eyes, if Godwyn died, murder or not, favorite child or not, a sacrifice is what he becomes. She was probably cool with Fias tampering as well. As his only way of redemption....which he may still have???? Anyways, this is what this video got me thinking of. Maybe a little off topic but I thought it was an appropriate way to say, Thanks for the hard work :D

Well I’m the first male numen then 😤

Are the Ancestors Nightfolk? Grayed skin, white hair... only asking cuz I'm making a Tarnished who's a descendant of outcasted spirit worshippers and Badlands barbarians

marika is 100% not a creation of the Nox

Why does GRR dress like that?

its pronounced "dune-e-dine" not dunedine

We have no information about the night folk so why would you think they were patriarchal? And the Nox are matriarchal, there’s literally an item description stating how the females are superior

Tbh, if the nightfolk bled silver that makes them silver tear descendants. But silver is inferior to gold, so how could an inferior silver lose its silver blood? Easy, it introduces the blessing of gold. The only way I see this happening is by reproducing with those that have the blessing of gold. I would say the nightfolk are descendants of silver tears and natural ppl.

Numan is not Latin for God. Deus/Deum/ Dei = God in Latin. The closest words in Latin to Numan are Nomen/Nomine= Name

To be fair, we cant really choose male or female in this game... only body type A or B. Trying to get fancy, fromsoft? 🙄