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There are tons of SF and Horror books in print that are not published, packaged and marketed as genre fiction- and they are hidden in plain sight on the general fiction shelves in your loacl bookshop. NYRB Classics are one of a number of imprints who produce superb SF & Weird Fiction in stunning covers for the discerning reader...
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@vintagesf
@vintagesf Месяц назад
I really enjoy these looks at publishers, series and editors. Clean graphic designs are so attractive. Thank you for sharing the NYRB line.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Месяц назад
I'm telling you richard, you got to look into the goodies at MIT press: their Lem collections are amazing!
@vintagesf
@vintagesf Месяц назад
@@waltera13 I do have Lem’s ‘The Invincible’ from MIT and you are right, it is stunning. I really like the MIT press logo.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
I show pretty much all of them in my Lem video.
@danieldelvalle5004
@danieldelvalle5004 Месяц назад
Love NYRB, they're just fantastic editions, and a great list of authors.
@dipanjanbiswas6580
@dipanjanbiswas6580 7 дней назад
Thank you so much for introduction to this series and the absolute gems you've reviewed in this video
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 7 дней назад
My pleasure.
@mormengil
@mormengil Месяц назад
I don't always have time to comment, but these videos are really informative and useful, thanks mate!
@kokorospirit5006
@kokorospirit5006 Месяц назад
The invention of Morel is great, I recommend 1967 french movie too to visualise the story. Some people point similarities to Lost series plot probably influenced by this book.
@user-mb9ll9wy6g
@user-mb9ll9wy6g Месяц назад
Love the way you said 'vanilla SF enthusiasts', with unconscious pity, rather than scorn. What a gent, it must be said..
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Well this is the thing- I don't look down on people who are overly guided in their expectations of SF, I just feel sorrow that they can't look outside the box- that is what SF is about after all.
@SolarLabyrinth
@SolarLabyrinth Месяц назад
I love NYRB classics. I know we're not supposed to judge books by their covers but I have done that a number of times with NYRB and have not been disappointed. I read that recent translation of the The Stronghold (The Tartar Steppe) last year on your recommendation and really enjoyed it. That's also where I first saw Christopher Priest's work thanks to that standout cover of Inverted World.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Glad you liked the Buzzati, genius.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Месяц назад
Love the video! Love that you gave me some targets to hunt for (although I think there's nothing in this video that you haven't already suggested to us before.) it's very easy when hunting used books to justify taking something by the beauty or composition of the piece, and with nyrb books that can get dangerously expensive! Some of their nonfiction stuff looks great too! The 30 Years War, and The Crisis of the Negro Intellectual look like must haves. And for the fantastic adjacent, A High Wind in Jamaica sounds really interesting. Their website is so vague and idiosyncratic though it's hard for me to know which one of these expensive paperbacks will be worth the risk, and which will make me wish I had just bought 5 secondhand Mass market paperbacks w/ spaceships.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Many of their more famous books are very long established in the Modern canon and taste aside, you can trust their editorial judgement.
@attysford
@attysford Месяц назад
Wonderful spotlight on the NYRB line Stephen. I’ve been an avid reader of their offerings for at least a decade. They’ve opened my eyes to authors I otherwise would not have found. Glad to see you’re as big a fan. Cheers and hope you’re enjoying your summer!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Same here.
@timmclain375
@timmclain375 Месяц назад
Beautiful volumes all. I read the two Sloane novels in my early teens, paperbacks found on the rack at the local pharmacy. Loved them, though have not re-read. A thrill to see the Wyndham books done up so nicely. My copies are "ancient" Ballantine editions, The Chrysalids bearing the title Re-Birth.
@SciFiScavenger
@SciFiScavenger Месяц назад
hi Steve, those are very handsome editions aren't they? Co-incidentally, I picked up the Avon 1971 edition of Brunch's Moderan today. I almost didn't take it, but changed my mind last minute. I hadn't realised he had some stories appear in the Harlan Ellison anthologies. Nice overview of a book collection I wasn't (in this as in so many things) aware of. 👍👍
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Hi Jon- as you know, I aim to reach parts of the genre others have not discovered (yet). 'Moderan' is typical of a number of books that go in and out of print over the decades like tides coming in and receding. I still have quite a few aces like this one up my incraesingly aged sleeve!
@SlowDazzle11
@SlowDazzle11 Месяц назад
Great video Steve. I read lots of Sheckley when I was young- along with my other favourite Ss, Silverberg and Simak. Sheckley must be the Swift of SF, the master satirist of works like "Options". I will get that collection by NYRB (lovely covers) and maybe "Moderan" which is also being mentioned a lot on You Tube. There's a great blog called Biblioklept who reviewed "Moderan" and Sorokin's books. I'd like to read "Blue Lard" as it's another clone book. Nice to see a modern Russian take on clone literature.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Yes, as Aldiss said Sheckley is 'Voltaire and Soda'. For me 'Options' is a key work and the very extreme of his approach- it would make an ideal NYRB Classic.
@buyahhhhrooo4418
@buyahhhhrooo4418 Месяц назад
Perfect timing. I was scouring the nyrb website the other day thinking about what I would do next. I came across them in the last year or so reading Robert Bresson's Notes on the Cinematograph (as a beautiful film study) and My Death by Lisa Tuttle. I recently picked up Moderan, Butcher's Crossing, Stoner, and Walkabout.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
All great books, I sell the Bressob regularly. The Williams are published by Vintage in the UK - I have the NYRB ones- and are not a patch on NYRB's versions.
@OmnivorousReader
@OmnivorousReader Месяц назад
Oo. Inverted World - I just read that. And Sheckley, I have just remembered that I used to really like Sheckley: I read Suspicious Area in an anthology and suddenly was reminded of him. Totally agree, btw, about The Handmaid's Tale. The recent upsurgence just bewildered me.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
People seem to think Atwood's dystopia is the first feminist one simply because it's such a famous book- for every 100 copies I sell maybe one of those customers have read Joanna Russ for example. Shame.
@OmnivorousReader
@OmnivorousReader Месяц назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal Right? Russ was far more controversial as an author. And in fantasy what about Sherri Tepper or McKinley? Their themes have been far more feminist for far longer and often are far more hard hitting than The Handmaids Tale, which I re-read recently. I guess it is the America/politics situation *shrug*
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
@@OmnivorousReader Agreed.
@grantross2609
@grantross2609 Месяц назад
Aickman's stories pack a punch for sure !
@faville
@faville Месяц назад
I love the NYRB books as well for the way they feel. They have a density and warmth in the hand along with texture of paper that is a pleasure to hold. I have read Stoner, Butcher’s Crossing, Warlock, and Nightmare Alley from this publisher. Thanks for a new list of titles to view that I otherwise would miss. Barnes & Noble has an ever-growing shelf of these editions and maybe I will actually spot a Priest or Wyndham title there for a change.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
I read 'Nightmare Alley' about a decade ago, loved it, plus all the others you mention about 15 years ago. Another I'll point you toward from their list is 'Hard Rain Falling' by Don Carpenter, which is like a cross between a Beat Gneration novel and a Prison Noir, great book.
@JavierGonzalez-xg2tq
@JavierGonzalez-xg2tq Месяц назад
Fabulous as always.. Casares is pronounced with a K sound. KAH-sah- rez. If you want to get a feel for the time) place and culture of The Invention of Morel I recommend looking up the film: Los que aman, odian... based on another Casares piece. It's a psyc murder mystery but it transports you to the island of Morel in ambiance. It stars the beautiful wife of Michael Buble, I think u will enjoy it. Keep up the excellent work you do here. VERY enjoyable.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Many thanks for this, I shall check the film out!
@sciencefictionreads
@sciencefictionreads Месяц назад
Great look at this publisher and a lot of stuff i was unaware of. I have and have read one NYRB Classic: The Slynx by Tatyana Tolstaya. It was quiet the wild story.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Hey Matt, good to hear from you - yes, that's a crazy one!
@joelstainer65
@joelstainer65 Месяц назад
I do enjoy the style of these covers! One thing I find a little offputting with these is the way they line up the colour of the title, not with the author of the books, but with the individual who wrote the foreward or translation. Very minor quibble. Dissipatio H.G. is a book I am not familiar with but it's precisely the type of book I would like I suspect. Adding it to the list! Very interesting discussion on whether Inverted World is considered hard SF or not. Just finished not long ago myself and wouldn't classify it as hard SF either, but I'm just some random schmuk so what do I know? As always I am a completely different page than you on Atwood, but I am thankful that you have always been consistent in not shying away from more offbeat views on some popular authors. Great video.
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Месяц назад
You are completely right! I've noticed it before, and it has tricked me into misreading the authors before, but it is a criticism that leaves my mind shortly after I shake my head and reread the proper author. You're 100% right. That is terrible design - unless the editorship thinks showcasing the new hand that touched the manuscript a more important selling tool than the author themself.
@athoszubiaur2144
@athoszubiaur2144 Месяц назад
as always, thanks, steve. i will echo what another poster said: i also really enjoy your videos about publishers. you've piqued my interest particularly with the italian writers. i read the last man standing by davide longo a while back and, though i didn't think it was great, i did enjoy it. looking forward to taking a look at the vanishing. imagine thinking feminist sf started with atwood. unreal.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
The Atwood thing is unreal, but it's the commonly held belief, tragically. I read 'Last Man Standing' about a decade ago and enjoyed it, though I didn't feel it was front rank. I am planning some Italian Fiction vids at some point, though if you watch my Capri videos, in them I talk about Italian- and other writers- a quite a lot.
@markandresen1
@markandresen1 Месяц назад
Another intriguing post. I've just started reading Italian horror, mesel', with a first-time English translation of 'The Gypsy Spiders' collection by Nicola Lombardi. (Tartarus Press). Very good so far; also, a new English translation of 'Alcina & Other Stories' by Guido Gozzano (Snuggly Books), although that's more sedately decadent in era and flavour.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
I've not read much Italian Horror, I must say- but I'm a huge Italian Crime buff. Good to hear from you Mark.
@j85grim4
@j85grim4 7 дней назад
These books look really interesting. Although I'm only 39, I think I am old school like you. I have been really disappointed with the newer scifi books I have read so far but really enjoy the classics and new wave era.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 7 дней назад
Apart from the odd great book, the truth is that SF's key period was 1950-1990. If you watch my videos about Hauntology, Modernism and so on -especially 'Why The Modern Science Fiction You're Reading Isn't Modern' and 'Why You Like the Books With Old Covers' all will become clear. SF is, like popular music, well past its sell by date as a fresh and innovative thing.
@j85grim4
@j85grim4 7 дней назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I used to be a musician so I can definitely attest to that. I haven't heard a good song from the mainstream in at least 20 years. There are still some great underground bands though, they are in the extreme metal/power electronics genres.
@mike-williams
@mike-williams Месяц назад
I've recently picked up the Buzzati titles on your recommendation, and they're high up on my reading list. I see NYRB have an anthology forthcoming in early 2025. NYRB Classics have an accompanying Children's imprint which has brought some wonderful juvenile fantasy back into print. I was in touch with one of the editors regarding one of their series as I had some of the original UK editions. She was very lovely and receptive to the extra information I was able to provide.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Yes, there is a collection (not an anthology) coming later this year. I have some of their children's books, they're fantastic.
@themojocorpse1290
@themojocorpse1290 Месяц назад
Wow an absolutely stunning collection Steve . The only thing I’ve read out of this selection is the stronghold/ tartar steppe totally loved that book . This is a collection I will certainly be seeking out. So many interesting authors.I watched your video on Stanislaw lem and have been reading / collecting the mit editions which are rather beautiful also . Really enjoyed this many thanks as always 🫡
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
All genius level stuff, mate.
@elfo19noob
@elfo19noob Месяц назад
I highly recommend the Lisa Tuttle. I just read it myself, as the first thing I dug into from a big haul of NYRB stuff I bought during a recent sale, and it is quite a fantastic little book. I picked up the Buzzati's as well, based on your recommendation -- can't wait to read those!
@rickkearn7100
@rickkearn7100 Месяц назад
Very handsome livery indeed, OB. I've seen this publisher's books here and there but never saw a title that caught my interest. On a side note, I really like that Outlaw Bookseller "It must be said" graphic at the end of this episode. First I've seen of it. Great look. Cheers. old chap.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
The graphics are courtesy of another regular viewer, Chris Badenoch, a solid guy.
@silex9837
@silex9837 Месяц назад
I've read 'The Invention of Morel' and watched Alain Resnais' 'Last Year at Marienbad' too. And Louise Brooks's looks defined an era - I should watch 'Pandora's Box', possibly her most famous film. Casares's web of illusions is absolutely haunting. I remember the fascinating parallels with 'The Island of Doctor Moreau'.
@mike-williams
@mike-williams Месяц назад
I remember a Sydney screening of 'Pandora's Box' about 30 years ago, with an accompanying live soundtrack played by a string quartet. Louise Brooks owned that screen!
@silex9837
@silex9837 Месяц назад
@@mike-williams How lucky! It sounds like an unforgettable experience.
@catunderstars
@catunderstars Месяц назад
Beautiful covers. I've run across Shadows Of Carcosa in the wild at the thrift and used shops a dozen times over the years and none of the others. Thanks for sharing.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
People tend to hang onto their NYRB, I find.
@razzaclart4553
@razzaclart4553 Месяц назад
That Cover on Moderan is just fantastic...
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Well, that's the in print edition, so it can be easily bought! It is the best cover the book ever had.
@anotherbibliophilereads
@anotherbibliophilereads Месяц назад
NYRB might be my favorite publisher. A great range of books. I’m impressed that they include so much “genre” fiction. I recently finished The Singularity. Thought provoking.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Yes, NYRB provides constant literary stimulation on all levels I find. I reviewed 'The Singularity' here a couple of videos back. For your first Buzzati, read 'The Stronghold' (aka 'The Tartar Steppe').
@thomaslockett520
@thomaslockett520 Месяц назад
Got the edition of Warlock they put out. Didnt manage to grip me straight away but I think it will be good when I have an extended bit of time to dig into it. I do like the designs.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
'Warlock' is a slow burn and sophisticated read, I enjoyed it, but it is not your typical Western, hence its interest.
@zamiadams4343
@zamiadams4343 Месяц назад
Yet again another great episode Stephen! So many great books that I haven't heard of, thank you!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Pleasure.
@JozefLewitzky
@JozefLewitzky Месяц назад
Absolutely love the look of NYRB novels as well, and similarly think the 'borderless' genre, literary, and otherwise fiction publishing from them scratches a wonderful 'hidden gem' itch. They remind me in some ways of the Criterion Collection for films. Very collectible. Stoner is one of my favorite books, but I did read it the year it started it gain traction again. My local bookstore had a little tag about it and had brought in a beautiful and strange hardcover version that I just had to have. (the 50th anniversary edition with 3 overlapping colored planes)
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Hey Jozef, good to hear from you. Yes, NYRB are beautiful, must be said.
@rokyfo
@rokyfo Месяц назад
I can't remember if you mentioned it in a previous video but I picked up their Daphne du Maurier short story collection last year and really enjoyed it.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
I didn't, but I have mentioned her stories at least twice on other videos, they are very good stuff.
@thekeywitness
@thekeywitness Месяц назад
As it happens, I just started reading Moderan by David Bunch. Amazing so far.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Yes, it's quite something, but it never stays in print long and the more vanilla SF readers just never get it, shame.
@psychonaut56
@psychonaut56 Месяц назад
That cover for Moderan is superb. Also, I own The Quest for Corvo, another great one.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
The Corvo book is a classic example of the NYRB titles that have been Penguin Modern Classics for decades in the UK.
@kufujitsu
@kufujitsu Месяц назад
I'm a massive fan of Robert Aickman's works of horror - I have 6 short story collections by him, & one short novel (the name of it's title escapes me at present, but it was of novella length, & it wasn't included in any of his collections which I own). His stories are creepy, his prose is beautifully balanced, & always a joy to read. The name of Dino Buzzati keeps cropping up. I haven't read him yet - but some readers say that he may have been an influence on Thomas Ligotti, who is another vastly underrated horror writer. Note - The name of Aickman's novel was "The Model", which was published 5 years after his death. It was weird/fantasy/quest story, praised by Robert Bloch, Gene Wolfe, & others...
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
I can't see Buzzati as an influence over Ligotti in any direct way- Ligotti, despite the quality of his writing falls definitively into the Supernatural Fantasy subsection of Horror, while Buzzati is much broader and more fabular. But 'The Tartar Steppe' (aka 'The Stronghold' is incredible, one of the great European Modernist novels- watch the video about it I link to at the end of this video.
@kufujitsu
@kufujitsu Месяц назад
@outlawbookselleroriginal I've just read several excerpts of Buzzati's works. I don't think I've ever read anyone like him. He's definitely a writer I need to seek out.
@leakybootpress9699
@leakybootpress9699 Месяц назад
The NYRB Classics series is generally wonderful. The only thing I have against them is the introductions. Adding an introduction to a work of fiction, unless it's an incredibly difficukt work, is talking down to readers; it assumes we're so dim we need to have things explained to us or to have a context given. That said, I have a few of these, and Moderan is pretty essential for the additional, previously uncollected episodes it includes.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
They don't always have introductions, some have afterwords, some have no extra material, though a large percentage do include intros. I've always been more of an afterword man myself.
@___Heron
@___Heron Месяц назад
Hi Steve, I'm currently reading The Foundation Pit by Andrey Platonov, in a NYRB edition. It seems it could fit into the school of Soviet science fiction alongside Tatyana Tolstaya, but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on that, or perhaps Soviet sci-fi in general. Cheers!
@thomasp6034
@thomasp6034 Месяц назад
I like the phrase, "vanilla SF readers", I'm going to try and work that into conversations. I love Sheckley, but I think he's a bit uneven. The collection Untouched by Human Hands is great, as is the Penguin Robert Sheckley Omnibus and the novella The Status Civilisation.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Sheck is uneven, but that gets to be part of his charm after I while I find, though it does prevent him from being a truly great novelist.
@mohammedhanif6780
@mohammedhanif6780 Месяц назад
And NYRB have acid-free paper unlike Penguin Classics.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Месяц назад
OMG yes! Penguin Classics have been on shit paper since they went to the beautiful black livery! So Frustrating! The tan bordered ones from the 80s & 90s have better paper that lasts longer, and the ones from the 60s and 70s are usually still bright white if they're not outright foxed. I used to work for Penguin and I can't see where the money from the price jumps are going.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Yes. Acid-free has long been popular in the USA but in the UK we've lagged behind badly on this, though there is some evidence of late that US University presses are starting to drop the ball. Penguin will do anything in my view to keep their production costs down and their prices high.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Месяц назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal you're quite right. I see Penguins under 10 years old browning. Disgraceful.
@severianconciliator1862
@severianconciliator1862 Месяц назад
The Invention of Morrell is one of my favorite books. The ending is sublime.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Yes, it's great stuff.
@severianconciliator1862
@severianconciliator1862 Месяц назад
Bioy Casares’s wife was an accomplished writer in her own right m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_ea2RfV278Y.html
@liamschulzrules
@liamschulzrules Месяц назад
Nice Charles Burns cover
@Hiero-qb6tn
@Hiero-qb6tn Месяц назад
NYRB certainly have a sure feel for list-building - I'm yet to be disappointed with anything of theirs that I have read. I also found the editor to be very approachable. As for Dissipatio HG, I enjoyed it. As you say, perhaps a reread will alter your opinion of the book - I have lost track of how many times that has been the case for me.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Yes, they've led me down many shadowy alleys and I've generally been pleased.
@StewedEarth
@StewedEarth Месяц назад
Fantastic video. I've only recently started exploring NYRB's and have read Wliiam Sloan's "The Rim of Morning" and Jeremias Gotthelf's "The Black Spider". Both great, although Sloan's tales finished a little flat for me. Shame he didn't write more.
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Месяц назад
Although you've talked about these nyrb's ( and others ) before in your back catalogue, it's wonderful to concentrate them here in one place and focus on them. I would love another video just like this with another 14 or so books from this line. . . You know, in your infinite spare time. 😉 I have considered getting "Amsterdam Stories," and "Memories of the Future" myself : heard any feedback on them? Read them yourself? * I LOVE that you used that "Shadows of Carcosa" reprint for the thumbnail. Do you remember the original giant sized edition : same title, same Burns cover? In the 80s you used to always see it in all of the punk and underground stores ( at least in NYC.) looking at it in MMPB size is like looking at a toy miniature.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Can't say I know the giant sized one, must have been US only. I have read "Memories of the Future"- he is very challenging, very fabular and modernist at the same time, something the Russians are big on and it often makes me want to scream 'cut to the chase and stop playing' at them. Not always, though.
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Месяц назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal Thank you. At $2 how could I *not* grab it? Too modern for you is a serious warning to me who shies away from a lot of modernists. Perhaps not top of the list then. . . Blindly trusting any / all of them becomes more daunting when you stand in front of a wall of the whole nyrb collection. One of the best used / new book stores in the region is here in SF. They have made the great sales decision to give them their own section and really amp up the intellectual materialism appeal!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
@@salty-walt I did an NYRB display where I work about ten years ago. Wasn't a huge success as I think it was too daunting for some readers. I think it would have done better if NYRB selected one colour for their spines and text box, but they go their own way and I admire that.
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Месяц назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal they probably didn't have the same rep at that time. Or maybe the suburban parts of San Francisco are just that much more elitist that there are people who only shop nyrb. Anyhow, it works well for Green Apple books. I guess you were just ahead of your time again!
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Месяц назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal P.S. that large format size shadows of carcassa from the 80s is totally where nyrb got their livery from BTW.
@nigelwillits7818
@nigelwillits7818 Месяц назад
Informative and entertaining as always. Have to disagree about Atwood though. I find the style of The Handmaid's Tale suits perfectly the austerity and disjunctiveness of the world depicted. Her Madd Adam trilogy is superb, filled with pace, inventiveness and humour; a very believable near-future where online isolation has fractured society and genetic engineering has created ecosystem chaos.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
We'll have to disagree then, as you say. Have you read any pre- Atwood feminist dystopia? Let me know!
@nigelwillits7818
@nigelwillits7818 Месяц назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal Not sure I know of any earlier feminist dystopian writers. Who would you recommend?
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
@@nigelwillits7818 There are/were numerous ones. Going back centuries, there was Margaret Cavendish's 'The Blazing World', though you could say she was simply a misandrist, over a century ago Charlotte Perkins Gilman's 'Herland' is key. In the 1960s Feminist SF really got going with Ursula K LeGuin and more importantly Joanna Russ, whose 'The Female Man' is really important. There were lots of others from then on, such as Suzy McKee Charnas, Jody Scot, Marge Piercy's 'Woman on the Edge of Time' and pretty much all the Women's Press SF line from the 1980s, which featured loads of books from the 1970s and 1980s. Atwood was a latecomer, simple as that. Plenty of them are mentioned on this channel in numerous videos as I read, re-read and pick up some of their books in hauls. Don't make the assumption that 'popular is first and best'. Cheers.
@nigelwillits7818
@nigelwillits7818 Месяц назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal Thanks for the recommendations. I have read quite a lot of Le Guin but don't recall her writing a feminist dystopia set on Earth in our own era. The immediacy of The Handmaid's Tale and especially its sequel The Testaments, with many elements being just slight extrapolations of what actually exists among the political/religious right-wing of America today, enhances its power.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
@@nigelwillits7818 No Dystopia is set in our era, they are by definition set in the future, or in archaic cases on undiscovered islands. "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas" is one of LeGuin's dystopias and her feminism is subtler and more inclusively humanist than Atwood's. Yes, Atwood's work reflects today, but then all dystopias do- they are fundamentally satires, viewing our society through a metaphoric glass darkly- and to take this further, all good SF is metaphoric and really about the contemporary. More's 'Utopia' was not published in whole in the UK- even in its original Latin- while Henry VIII was alive- as More realised it could be read as a critique of Tudor kingship- and that was in the 16th century. The nature of dystopia is long established and that's my point- if you read earlier feminist dystopias - like Russ and Piercy, they are critiqueing their own times as well. The point is that Atwood was following in their wake and does not deserve excessive recognition compared to earlier pioneering figures who showed her the way.
@j85grim4
@j85grim4 7 дней назад
I'm seeing some Roger Waters in you as well. I think you're half way between Bono and Waters, a Bono-Waters hybrid.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 7 дней назад
That's a new one as well!
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