Yes the Icom 5100 display is sitting on a Yaesu FT-891 and on the right side of the two monitors is the actual radio unit for the 5100 on top of what appears to be a power supply! 73
It's amazing that many people still have no idea whats going on. Thats the reason for the "slow roll" of info coming out. Cant just toss them into the deep end.
I like your comment a lot, partly because I am shocked a lot of people think the boat anchor is unrealistic and this is realistic. It makes me realise just how different we all are in this hobby.
@@mikemandell132 That would be a nice change. My FT-301 does sort of work, but you have to sort of talk it in to it by twisting knobs that have actually nothing at all to do with why I am twisting them... reject is a sort of filter... there's a bad capacitor somewhere, I know this because after about 20 mins I have to turn reject to 5 or it throws a wobbly and screeches at me. Every so often, for no apparent reason, it decides to give me an electric shock. It is really crafty too, it kinda lulls you into a false sense of security like its saying "look, we touched, I told you I was gentle" and then just when you get your confidence up the damn thing zaps god knows how many volts up your arm.
I didn't like the movie, I was constantly face palming because the characters acted so dumb, It's like a low IQ writer created the movie. I thought maybe aliens would come into play at the end of the movie, but it left me feeling I wasted time watching it. I'm sure it will win all sorts of awards.
Same here. As a movie, the pacing was overly slow. Some scenes did not seem to make any sense or contributed to the plot. For example, the part where the hispanic lady was yelling at the dude and they couldn't understand each other. I kinda get that it might allude that something bad was happening, but it seemed unnecessary. The ending was kinda stupid too in my opinion.
Just finished the book, Partisan Operator's Journal Vol. 1. I think you or the Tech Prepper recommended it. Cool book but eerie because it follows a similar premise to Leave the World Behind. Foreign countries trying to disrupt the USA from dis-information and confusion from within.
Dude!! I was thinking the exact same thing in the moment and was hoping someone would make a video on this! Flawlessly executed, and timely. Thank you.
A lot of props in movies, and even TV shows to a lesser degree, come from companies that specialize in supplying one type of prop or another. Those prop companies have deals with manufacturers to get their products on screen, usually one company pays more to get featured more than the others. This is why you see a lot of GM products in TV shows from the 80s like Knight Rider. If a production is buying their own props and no one is sponsoring it they will buy the cheapest they can find which causes a lead actor who is playing a federal agent to use a Baofeng and confirm it is a "secure line." I suspect that a prop house set the ham shack up OR a member of the production worked on last man standing.
Much better use of amateur radio than that episode of 911 Lone Star S03E02 where a dusty old tube radio is brought in to the protagonist, set down on a desk, switched on and it just worked... no tuning, no antenna and supposedly during a power blackout 🙂
Being a bit sad (and an FTDX101MP owner) I just could not resist zooming in to see that external display, it is the MP, the D has different meter markings. Radio was probably reset, they "wake up" on exactly 7MHz... for many hams their partners discovering the cost of these radios could be a world ending scenario. Fortunately my wife suspected that the radio cost considerably more than it did....
They nailed everything but the operating frequencies for the shot! ...I wonder if there was a ham in the production team that brought their equipment from home for the scene. Ultimate show and tell! LOL
I mean, who's to say that the person that built the bunker with the radios wasn't monitoring those frequencies on purpose? An Emergency message of some type was being broadcasted after all. Or, perhaps the Obama's chose those numbers because they mean something? Or, most likely, a cat brushed it's tail across the VFO...
If they put out a legal frequency, it would attract all sorts of people there (like trolls). It seems like a very conscientious choice and similar to using "555" telephone numbers in movies.
It's a device, similar to Predictive Programming, called Revelation of Method which is a technique used in Psychological warfare where eventually a conspiracy becomes known. The "elite", aka Parasites, have to tell you exactly what they are going to do to us beforehand to relieve the Karmic Debt of the atrocities inflicted up us the victims.
Too neat to be a real Ham's shack. No parts, no half-completed projects. Where are the external speakers, desk mike or boom mike, and mixer board brings it all together? This is a rich appliance operator's shack.
You mentioned that hamster don’t interact with the military. We did have MARS. While it wasn’t a direct communication to a military person, it was a way to send messages from home through the military to their family.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse actually it’s just outside of the ham bands. I don’t remember the 40m frequency but on 80 it was like 4.010, 4.020. So having that left receiver just out of bands is likely, but I believe MARS was above the ham bands, not below.
MARS frequencies are very near ham bands because they use almost entirely ham equipment with transmit unlocked (MARS Mod-VHF is banned by MARS so that HT "Mars MOD" is NEVER for MARS anymore). They actually do interact directly with military sometimes (mostly National Guard) and do have a presence at Fort Huachuca AZ (Netcom). I was a member of Navy/MC until it cease, then Army for several years. The remnants of phone patch are popular with long haul USAF flights. The guys (a handful) who operate that are better at it than the active duty folks who do the same thing, so pilots generally tune to MARS if they need to make a call. If you tune around you can hear MARS nets multiple times a day. The net is in unencrypted voice but all traffic is STANAG mode and encrypted. @@HamRadioCrashCourse
So we can call all the radios we buy 'redundancy' and thus necessary right? Nice!!!🤭I gurantee someone will take those frequency numbers and find some hidden message. 😁
Great video, Josh and great job identifying the radio equipment! These are the items used on the set from left to right...don't ask me how I know 😀. G-800DXA Rotator Controller, MLS-100 Speaker, SP-30B Palstar Speaker, Icom ID-5100A Control Head DIsplay sitting on an FT-891, FTM-400XDR, M-1 Desk Mic, FTDX-101MP, FTDX-10, M-90D Desk Mic, ID-5100A Xcvr Body sitting on a Samlex SEC-1235M Power Supply, , Daiwa CN-901HP Meter sitting on an SEC-1235P-M Power Supply, Bencher BY-2 Iambic Paddle, Yaesu FT-70DR & FT-5DR HTs. 73 de W5ABQ
That number is there for a reason, in high production value films there is nothing, repeat, NOTHING, left to chance. It has specific meaning. Probably some kind of encoded date time code or coordinates.
Between this and that upcoming Alex Garland Civil War movie as “predictive programming”, I’ve been saying for years that I’m content to be an RTO for MARS/FEMA - “in the rear with the gear”. I’m competent with a rifle, but I’m not in my 20s to be defending my homeland “running and gunning” either.
I would not be surprised to learn that that the radios were chosen primarily on the aesthetic appeal of their LED displays. In another scene of the movie, there was a shot of a vehicle's radio console showing it to be tuned to an AM radio station frequency that AM radio doesn't tune to. I'm assuming they used fake radio frequencies for the same reason they have used the fake 555 prefix for telephone numbers in TV and movies.
Potential Spoilers Below! That radio frequency, why it was chosen to be displayed on AM I can only assume was meant to accentuate the meaning of it, is probably one of the many hidden meanings or Easter eggs of the movie. You can look them up. That one is believed to be part of the reference to slavery. Be it past, or future, due to “the event” as would the conspiracy go. The White Lion was the name of the first ship that brought slaves to the shores of the New World in 1619, one year before the Mayflower, and landed in Point Comfort. In the movie the rented house was in Point Comfort, the beached ship was called White Lion and the radio was tuned to 1619. What I don’t understand for the life of me, is how a nation being electronically hacked affects the navigation of wildlife….where they just trying to shoehorn some weird animal scenes in there? I can see with the current flipping of the earths magnetic poles and a CME hitting us, that magnetic interference would affect animals, and humans as is believed.
Certainly a narrative device... I stopped and watched the movie, can't recommend it enough... But I have to say that an event like that would be on the scale of "easy mode" for the possibilities of what COULD happen. Also strikes me as quite likely. It demonstrated some holes in my preparedness that I'd love to fill with community. Thank you Josh for the nod to ham radio in popular media and your take on it!
4:20 in context, I thought those frequencies were supposed to at least be implying MARS or some kind of first-responder / government coordination frequency, which is why it’s just outside of the amateur 40m band plan.
5:45 exactly, the frequency and context suggested to me that MARS RTTY/packet radio was being implied, but different enough from the real band plan just like a “555” prefix telephone number or Tyler Durden’s recipe for dynamite and napalm in movies.
I don't watch movies anymore. My wife did make a comment to one of her friends when she was showing them my shack. She said that it reminded her of the movie Leave The World Behind. Now I know what she was talking about. I am a prepper and I don't need a movie to show me what could possibly happen. My wife see that.
I thought the movie was stupid. There were scenes that didn't make any sense. It had the air of the movie "Nope." The pace of the movie was also dreadfully slow.
At 3:17 that "box" looks like it may be a power supply of the Diamond GSS/V 3000 nature... Or maybe another brand... Samlex?!? It may have a 12v plug adapter on top of it like I did on mine to plug-in 12V plugs instead of cutting wires, could also be a surge suppressor. Love the output on the monitor, didn't know radios done that....
It’s a pretty raw attempt to show a SHTF scenario. There are some race related content, which TBH, felt mostly authentic (Julia Roberts character was a touch over the top with her racism). Felt like a genuine attempt to get non-prep oriented people to think about being more prepared. Good commentary on our complete reliance on technology too. As far as money, I’m not sure how much the Obamas get from one stream through Netflix. My guess is they got their payment when they sold the film to Netflix and now Netflix gets their money from subscribers. Maybe it’s $0.50 per stream or something minor like that. If you have people in your circle that think ‘prepping’ is silly, have them watch this.
Man I did not enjoy that movie at all. In fact I was surprised to hear Josh liked it so much. The only good part in it (in my opinion) was the ham radio setup. I guess it's just not for me, but I certainly didn't find it to be the psychological thriller it was made out to be.
*Oh man!* I had to sit through about 2 hours of riveting tense drama & decent acting before finally being rewarded with a mere 30 seconds of Ham radio eye-candy at the very end 🤣.
In movies, they want bright colorful things buttons, screens, etc. A little off topic but, when you are inviting the media to field day, etc. Think ahead of time as to what can we make look INTERESTING for the "Camera guy?" And are people in vests? Name tags? a color screen on the radio, monitors a big TV screen showing the states, or Greyline? A banner with the club name. give them something they can take still pictures of and action where groups of people can be doing something. One year, I made signs on the back of the chairs, One said "Morse Code Operator" Why - because the PUBLIC doesn't know what CW is. The public doesn't know what the abbreviations are so speak in English to the interviewer.
lol I went to Netflix on my computer so I could stop and copy that shot of the ham equipment. "Leave the World Behind" I had to look up that frequency. Sadly they didn't use ICOM gear. I blame whoever was advising the production company. ;)
September 18th, 2024. With that whole Great Solar Flash on a poster I have and bought in 2018 that lists things that were not even a blip in social or news media.
I think if you look closely, that is the base unit for the Icom IC-5100 on top of the Power Supply and almost looks like a Yeasu 891 or something with the tuning knob on the right under the head unit of the IC-5100??
I was interested in the stack, too and did similar research. The only thing left for me was the alert system I am interested in, so I had some ideas if this would be something realistic. System was encrypted: - If it was encrypted, the decryption is a stream cipher algorithm with error correction.A character is being send one time or multiple times with error correction and a sequence number for the character itself. If you send encrypted data over the air, one wrong character can destroy the complete transfer (depending on the algorithm used if there are dependencies). The typewriter-effect is more or less realistic if you use this kind of transfer. - if it was encrypted and if the data is encoded by a block cipher algorithm, you receive a complete data block (compressed and encrypted) and decode a complete data block. The typewriter-effect is "show" in this case. - if the msg was encrypted, you need a decryption system. This could be something between the antenna and the receiver (some hardware?) or it's a pager-like device that re-transmit the decoded data to the yaesu). If we look clother to the screen, we see a top area, a middle area and a bottom area. It looks like as if the message area is an overlay (different font, different background-color), maybe there was something else behind it and modified for the movie? Maybe the real alert system? Who knows. The frequencies shown have many same digits, maybe a more realistic frequency has been modified for something else with multiple of the same digits? Who knows. But this is really far away from whatever. (sorry for bad english)
I don't know the context in the movie, but the US uses the EAS SAME system for emergency message broadcasts, and they're fairly easy to decode. A surprising amount of digital message traffic is left in the clear and relies on security through obscurity. If you tune up the pager frequency of your local hospital and feed it to a software POCSAG decoder, you'll be shocked to see private medical information being passed around in plaintext.
I think this scene is being overthought by people who know too much. Realism, to a degree, was the goal. That was to satisfy the portion of the audience that does know a bit about what they're looking at. But then they needed a little more to build the intrigue for the rest of the audience, so in comes the monitor displaying a seemingly decrypted message in very plain language. Remember, the vast majority of the audience isn't even going to know what that equipment sitting on that desk is, or that it is commercially available. Hollywood does this quite a bit. In a military scene, there will be some very realistic elements to it because they know a portion of their audience has been in the military and would immediately lose interest if the scene was completely fake. Then they take some creative license to build interest for everyone else. We see this pattern repeated quite frequently if a scene involves something technical that would only be understood by those familiar with it, and lost upon everyone else.
@@PrebleStreetRecords Plain voice too. Also a home facility care place in the city has an automated system that transmits when a resident's door is opened and what their name is in plane voice. Oh... and don't eat the jerk chicken from the restaurant down the road...
@@WR3ND That's wild. I live in the sticks now so all I see of local traffic on my SDR is the occasional 433MHz ISM gate opener and such, but it was always fun when I lived in a city to dig through the piles of comms bouncing around.
Disclaimer: I haven't seen the movie, yet. But interesting that people are focusing on the legal/Illegal frequency usage for a post-apocalyptic world. Apparently, the radio(s) would have been MARS modded and non-standard frequencies being utilized. Looking forward to watching the movie to see if my observations make sense.
If you have not watched this movie 4 or 5 times you will not understand what exactly there telling you in it. Notice every time they show a Clip of the bed room. The water gets higher and higher in every scene. In the picture behind the bed. This movie is telling you there plans. Pay attention. That is only 1 Decipher. The all seeing eye emblem is in the credits before the movie even begins.
I think if the world is ending no one is going to really care about the band plans anymore and will go where ever they can especially if they don't want people to hear what they are saying you'd go slightly outside the band your antenna is tuned to
I feel like if anyone could find out who did that scene and who designed that set piece it would be Josh. I’d love to see if Josh could figure out who worked on it, interview the guy, and get the backstory and details!
I noticed that you didn't include very much actual footage from the show, just a still shot. Maybe there wasn't much to show. Or maybe it's the chilling effect of a possible takedown for copyright violation, even though that would qualify as Fair Use. HamRadioNow Episode 506 was taken down on RU-vid for over a week with a Netflix copyright claim. After I disputed it, it went back up provisionally. A couple days ago, Netflix completely rescinded their copyright claims to that episode. Unfortunately, no one has seen it, because it was down for so long.🙈 Well, no one would see it anyway because it's a HamRadioNow show. But I want everyone to know that we are out there, fighting the good fight 💪
I watched bits an pieces of it and felt the same way. Pacing was overly slow, acting was spotty. Some scenes didn't seem to contribute to the main plot and the ending sucked 😅
Did you happen to notiice all the product logos on the store shelves. Heavy non-subtle propaganda going on there, then I remembered who produced it and it made sense, lol
This reminds me of the series Station Eleven. There are a few ham radio scenes. Thought it was an icom but couldn’t be sure. Hadn’t planned on watching this move maybe now I will. Thanks.
It seemed like a hodgepodge of plot points that never got resolved. The bunker Hamshack was the high point for me. With a former President producing a SHTF movie, seems like he’s trying to make a quick buck off of our concerns 🤷🏻♂️
@@stevesummersell_K4WXX No, I would say he was great for ham radio and gun industry, he’s probably the best gun and radio salesman of all time. He started America down this path of internal division by ushering in and promoting identity politics and socialism.
Radio unit on the right with wires coming out, 5100 body. 5100 head unit is sitting on another but different radio. Also, to the right of the 101, seems to be the power supply speaker???
Hey, Josh. To me, the item on the right background appears to be a Samlex power supply. Two meters, V and A, and a red illuminated power on/off switch. Looks just like the two I have. Just something to think about. Best, Marc Fraser (N1QGM)
If SHTF big time I doubt if the FCC and ARRL will still exist, and rules and regs will be out the window. Nice to see ham radio depicted in a realistic way. For personal reasons, I won't be watching this movie.
Also the name of the ship. White lion. Where it landed. Where it come from. Many many telling evidence in this video. There showing you a plan. It's up to you to see it.
I watched half the movie last night before bed. Haha Im not up to this bit yet, and its a good movie. I didnt know the Obama's produced it, very interesting.
I'm always interested in any ham radio reference (Terminator, Steely Dan old songs, etc.) but realistically whoever lived in this estate would more likely have been well-connected and have a programmed ALE radio for some SHARES stuff. Why? Because in a comm blackout like this, the last people you want to talk to are hams, who know no more than you do and are useful pretty much only for spreading disinformation over a wider area. Yeah, it's possible RACES (or some ACS-type stuff) could use hams for actual comms that is official, most of what you'd hear from hams in such an event would be rumor and speculation---exactly like the devious plot in this movie suggests will help bring anarchy.
The weirdest thing to me is that there was a different SHTF movie released during Obama's presidency, and he actually made a guest appearance in it as the president WHILE he was the real-life president. I can't remember for the life of me what it was called, but a British version was released at the same time on the other side of the world.
