Subscribe to Glenn's new RU-vid channel: www.youtube.co... Subscribe to The Glenn Show on Substack: glennloury.sub... Glenn Loury and John McWhorter debate Barack Obama's track record on race during his presidency.
Spirited conversation, including vigorous disagreement, collocated in a room where things could come to blows - but do not and would not, because of mutual respect. An excellent example to the world of how we need to interact if we're going to have a civil democratic republic.
Love both guys, but I think John had this one wrong. I'm not sure how effective it is to counter Glenn's points with "this is all social medias fault". At it's simplest, Obama actively avoided backing law enforcement, driving a wedge between his progressive supporters and more moderate/conservative supporters of law and order. How does that not have a direct impact on the relationship between citizenry and police we have today? A less divisive leader would have balanced the different interests at hand and wouldn't back a side until all of the facts came in. In the same way Trump could influence his worst supporters, so could Obama. Our race relations issues aren't new to the Trump era - the cookie really began to crumble under Obama.
John, the standard position of any politician when an incident happens should be. It's terrible that someone died or was injured and I have faith in our system to determine the truth of the incident and punish if needed. There should not be a side taken until the truth is known.
I think the problem with Obama is what could have been. If he had been a different person and a different President, the country might have finally moved to a place where race wasn’t such a big issue. The wound of racism had been healing and Obama could have helped it heal to a point where the wound was mostly gone. But instead he poked the wound often, opening in up, as a way to deflect his shortcomings as a leader and policy maker.
I hate to say it, but I'd go further and say racial balkanization is integral to the left's Marxist takeover of our society. Note O's recent support for CRT, a program that 85% of Americans oppose.
So the problem with Obama was that he is not a conservative. Conservatives did not vote for Obama, why would anyone expected him to govern as a conservative?
Marty enjoys seeing you two together in the same space! Would love to see you gentlemen give each other a hug. Two great men don’t have to hide their platonic love for each other.
@@willismcgee5216 Absolutely! Platonic tongue! Just platonic… Not that there’s anything wrong with not platonic tongue…I just don’t believe they feel that way about each other is all…
If Obama had done, he would gone down in history covered in the glories of greatness. As it is, he's a hated joke. It's a tragedy, when you think of election night in 2008, and the exhilaration of those who voted for him. I didn't vote for him but I remember that night well. The lost opportunity of his time in office can be felt in the shockwaves reverberating through the country at this moment.
Thanks for the head's up on your new channel! Always enjoy your insight. I'm a huge fan of John McWhorter as well. Much appreciation from an old white bird who enjoys your perspective and anaylsis.
He didn't speak at Gettysburg for the 50th anniversary of Lincoln's speech. C'mon. That encapsulates it all. Obama could have taken up the MLK standard and done great things and made a 2nd Gettysburg Address. Instead he chose to promote indignation and resentment.
Obama was the first and only politician I ever gave or will give money to. My lefty girlfriend spotted that he was a phoney from the get-go. I drank the Kool Aid. From singing We Shall Overcome as a kid to falling for a black conman to watching the fracturing and decline of America is a sad story. That's why Glenn is so pissed off.
I don't get that talking point. Obama was FAR from perfect but I still don't blame him for race relations breaking down. How much power are you giving one man he was not HITLER. One man was not going to change what had been in place for decades .While I appreciate these two for their views I also realize they are the coastal elites telling the other what they want to hear. Grains of truth are sprinkled in the diatribe but this is about one sided as it gets. E. McClain gets no time from them, B Taylor must have been doing SOMETHING wrong. I admit that today we are to quick to judge but when the facts are out and justice is slanted stand up for that also and you'll get more respect and listeners of both types. Just a thought
I voted for Obama... and that was the last time I have voted for a Democrat. I truly hoped he would be a healer, and usher in an era of race reconciliation this nation sorely needs, and millions and millions of people of all races seemed to long for as well. Instead I found that he seemed to act more in a divisive spirit of retribution, and only inflamed race tensions further. I am truly sorry for this opportunity lost.
@@entropyvortex2484 Sure, but since you referenced never voting for a Democrat again, It's only logical to assume you found different qualities in the Republican candidate than those of which you prescribed to Obama.
In many ways, Obama was the perfect candidate - one could project whatever one wished on him. Obama's record of voting 'present' meant having no record, and being black inoculated him from the typical scrutiny given to every other candidate. A lot of people, whites in particular, thought voting for him would finally at long last get us past the fixation on race. How ironic that it did the very opposite, almost as if that was the whole point. One of the wonders of our time is how many people voted for Obama and later, for Trump.
I have a high level of respect for Mr. Glenn Loury. Not only because of what he has been able to accomplish in his career as an economist but also because what he has and still contributes to the conversation for the progress and advancement of black people in this country. Having said that, I do think that Glenn is being extremely polarizing in his position against Obama. (Which can be to his own detriment) He is also using “slippery slope” arguments in his critic of Obama particularly when speaking about Obama’s response to Travon Martin. You CANNOT accurately talk about blacks and their relationship with police without taking into consideration the historical relationship that blacks have had with police in America. So when Obama is talking to the country regarding the Travon Martin case, he isn’t JUST talking about the Travon Martin case, he is talking to a historically wounded people (Black people) who have seen this happen more times than they can count and are tired of being on the “bad end of the stick” on these things. Obama is sympathizing with them. He is coming along side them and relating to them. He is doing something that Trump was incapable of doing which is showing empathy. He HAD to do that. He HAD to respond that way. It appears (As John pointed out) that Glenn has a personal vendetta against Obama. Such personal vendettas that show itself in strong emotional attacks against Obama don’t help the conversation regarding blacks but it hurts the conversation. Obama is loved by blacks and he becomes “divided against himself” by speaking so harshly against one of blacks beloved hero’s. I can see past this, many blacks will not. What I think Glenn fails to see is the nature and predicament Obama was in when he first took office as President of the United States. The reality of the situation is that Obama was in a “No win situation” as President. He became President at a time when the country was at its worst economically. This was on the heels of the two-term President George W Bush who sent the economy to the dumps! (I voted for Bush both terms and I am a registered Independent. Bush inherited a great economy). Obama inherited the worst economy any of us have ever seen since the Great Depression. He couldn’t save the country and save black people at the same time. I SAW THIS BEFORE IT EVER HAPPENED. I did not expect him to turn around the lower socioeconomic parts of black communities because the “Powers that Be” were not going to allow that. Furthermore the GOP had determined that they were going to block EVERY SINGLE policy he came up with No matter what it was, no matter how good it was for the country. They did from DAY ONE IN OFFICE! How quickly do people forget! It is fallacious to say that Race relations are worse because of Obama. Glenn knows that is not true! Race relations are not where they are now at because of Trump or Twitter. Trump only brought to the surface what was in people the whole time! You don’t have 350 years of Chattel slavery and Jim Crow and get rid of racism and bigotry in 50 years. Many of the people ARE STILL ALIVE and they are exposing themselves. What did we honestly expect to happen in the black community? I have followed Glenn Loury from afar and it appears that for the better half of the last 35 years he seems to fluctuate and change positions. He goes from conservative to liberal and then back again. One would wonder why this is. It appears that he is in the middle of yet another one of these fluctuations of view points. I don’t think the issue is that he doesn’t believe things as he used to. I think he fails to see that there is a level of truth in all the positions he has ever held. He doesn’t have to go back and forth and take an “Either/Or” approach. He should take an “Both/And” approach. Blacks can be victims AND They also need to be responsible for their lives and their actions. Both can be true and I believe they are true. America can be an amazing country to live in AND it can also be the source of great corruption and evil. Both can be true. Is this not true of ourselves? Don’t we as human beings possess an ability to do great good and evil? This is woven all throughout the the Holy scriptures. In the Bible, King David was considered “a man after God’s own heart” yet he was also a murderer and adulterer. BOTH ARE TRUE ABOUT DAVID! The same is true with us and most things. Ultimately, blacks being responsible for ones actions and life is far more important than being a victim, BUT THEY ARE ALSO VICTIMS! Both are true! WE MUST SPEAK THE TRUTH! Glenn Loury is a much needed voice in the discussion regarding the progress of black people. I think that it is important that he be a good steward of his position as a thought leader in this conversation and speak the truth, instead of taking a side. I learned a long time ago that, the truth is always somewhere in the middle! This is where I choose to stand. I hope and pray that he can do the same! 🙏🏿
You thought Obama was a carpetbagger but not Democratic New York Hillary, the Goldwater Girl from Arkansas via MA and Chicago? Not a great point of comparison Glenn.
Has anyone written clearly on the truth of the Trayvon Martin case? I’ve read enough on Michael Brown to see what really happened, but clear details about the former escape me.
If you haven’t heard the counter narrative you will want to watch this: The Glenn Show: Revisiting the Trayvon Martin Case | Part 1 | with John McWhorter ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_t-wtTEp7G0.html
@@alementary4065 HA, well I do not agree but the answer is no then. this is the problem to me no on wants to admit fault when they are wrong. How dare Glenn claim the South Side when he does nothing but call the people who live there "OMAR'S". He left them along time ago, which is fine, personal choice. Point is if he really cared he would show the true picture that has been happening since Regan. We DO need to work on ourselver but ****started taking our family with the war on drugs . Glenn if by any chance you read this I would love to hear your comments.
@@ericdowden4546 The police are rarely wrong in deadly force situations. I know, you'll find 25 instances where they were. Out of 375,000,000 public contacts. GTFOH. It's not a problem. People just blow it up into one. In 2019, *14* instances of unarmed blacks shot by police. 14. And unarmed doesn't mean not dangerous or lethal. The public is the problem, not the police.
@@alementary4065 Policing is NOT a easy job and I work with the public, yes they are challenging. My point is accountability and character. Just because you can bench 350 and shoot a gun does NOT mean you should be a law officer. People will be a lot less tense if they knew justice was applied equally. This returns to my point on Glenn and John, if they would admit that we still do have a problem in this country albeit nothing like 100 years ago(wow, it was just 100 years ago that lynching's were still a pastime) then maybe more people could get on board with moving forward together,. Just a thought, hopefully not falling on deaf ears.
I think George Zimmerman‘s actions reasonably Could be perceived as actions that would trigger a fight or flight response. There are proposals now to change the stand your ground laws to consider an instigator who would afterward claim self-defense.
No one except George Zimmerman can now say what really happened between him and Trayvon Martin, and we are unlikely to get anything worth taking seriously from George Z. If the true facts could be known to the rest of us, I would not be surprised that they would indicate that George Z. started a fight, the fight went south for him very quickly, and he used a gun to end the fight that he started. Not exactly what the notion of self-defense and stand your ground is supposed to be about.
@@tomjones8235 Yeah, that's similar to what I'm saying. We know he was stalking the young man. As a parent of teenagers I would be on high alert to find that some guy was stalking one of them. I'd likely approach the situation armed. That is unusual behavior for someone who is not a cop.
Glenn's opinion on what Obama should have done is rather funny, I can't imagine any universe in which a progressive president has a Nixon-like response to those events.
You both agree things need to change in order for America to keep her promise. Public protest and violence was more than acceptable for the White men who built this country. Why is that same approach not okay for blacks to drive change? And the reaction to the mere accusal against Whites for possibly perpetuating a state of being they’ve occupied for the better part of 400 years, almost in mass, has nothing to do with race relations getting worse? It was Obama’s fault? I like you two a lot, but come on elders. You’ve got to do better…
The reason I am so angry at Obama is because of a failure of leadership. He had an opportunity to do so many wonderful things not only for blacks but for the country and he blew it.
7:22 Glen I have been saying that for years. No son raised by Barack and Michelle Obama would have been anything like Trayvon Martin. Because they would have demanded of that young man the same they demand of their daughters, holding him to a high standard of behavior and academic success.
Let's face it, Trayvon Martin may not have been _Theo Huxtable_ , but he was not some menacing thug from _The Wire_ , either; he was just a dude, who played his cards poorly that night (we all occasionally do). As "black" men we need to ALWAYS keep that in mind. We don't have to see ourselves as victims to grasp the social lay of the land. The "black" male public image affects us all (Trayvon, Glenn, you and me).
@@stephencarter7266 You can call an attempt to injure and even kill someone "playing cards poorly" but he could have been alive if he was slightly better educated and less indoctrinated with the narrative "We black men are getting killed in the street for no reason". Travon needed 2 seconds to say, "Sir, please relax, I just live over there down the street."
@@m.chumakov1033 Trayvon Martin, like most male teenagers, probably saw himself as a 'good guy'; someone with the potential for heroic action like in the movies. George Zimmerman as a fully grown adult still had this attitude (he likely saw himself as Batman or Dirty Harry). In hindsight Trayvon Martin should have killed Zimmerman when he had Zimmerman at a disadvantage (he'd STILL be alive, had Martin been more of a sociopath). But all he wanted to do was give Zimmerman an ass whooping. So a naive teenager _brought his fist to a gun fight_ . Sure, Trayvon Martin would still be alive had he been more humble, mild and meek. But what testosterone fueled teenager in the height of the _girl crazy phase_ of a male's life, wants to carry himself as humble, mild and meek? Did you?
@@stephencarter7266 It wasnt black male image that was pounding Zimmerman's head into the sidewalk. That was a young man who let his temper lead him to a terrible end. I have never worried about the image of black men reflecting on me, because I always held myself to a higher standard. Not because I'm super special, because I was more afraid of my mom than of the police. My decisions were always guided by "what if she finds out" Good parenting over rules bad tempers. We need good moms and dads holding their sons accountable to their choices. That is what will make life better in black America.
@@YautjaHunter3 Well, perhasp Zimmerman deserved to get his head pounded, I don't know; and we'll never know for sure since Trayvon Martin can't tell his side of the story. While I commend your mom for her great work on fostering YOUR sense of manhood, we need fewer mom's _dominating_ the raising and socializing of "black" sons, not MORE. Manhood is inherently risky. Even more risky for a testosterone fueled boy trying to become a man. The only way to take the risk out of manhood is to remove the testosterone and turn young "black" males into sassy but physically passive females. It is what it is.
Huge fan of Glenn, but wtf. You voted for Hillary over Obama? Then you voted for Trump over Hillary? How could you be so critical of Obama yet so forgiving of Trump? This makes no sense to me.
Ha! I wrote my previous comment before I even finished listening to this idiot. And sure enough, he makes a fool of himself by lambasting Obama for not “leading the country” and giving a “Trump-like” denunciation of looting, rioting, and violence... Did you sleep through January 6th, Glenn? I’m glad he’s taking his show to his own channel. These ridiculous takes are beneath the quality thinking people expect on BHTV. Good riddance. How John survived all these years paired with this clown is beyond me.🤦🏼♂️
@@gkniffen January 6 was one day and didn't compare to rampant violence that occurred over an entire summer that was largely ignored or encouraged by the left.
@@gkniffen What does critiquing Obama have to do with Jan. 6th? The rioting and looting he was speaking about was nearly 10 yrs removed from Jan 6th. Furthermore if you had bothered to watch the episode they did on Jan 6th you would know he was not asleep for it, and you might find the genuflection from Glenn that you seem to seek. He has strong opinions but is no less modest and open to being proven wrong than I think any given person can be expected to be
He espouses conservative takes with a black face. Conservatives being almost a literal white ethno state party are so thirsty for non whites to parrot their shit they flock to such examples.
@@ubuu7 What a shame, man. Here we are in 2021 supporting the idea that black people in America can be anything they want to be, and you're telling them they can't be conservative.
I'm an African American married to a woman of half West African half white British descent and I have a take on Obama - it was great to see a person of color in the White House no doubt. But Obama always seemed a bit fraudulent in the way he co-opted African American culture when he was not from it. He was from Hawaii, raised by a white mother, moved to Chicago as an adult and now he has an African American accent and soul? I live with a (lovely) person like him and if my wife acted like that it would be laughable. No one who grew up in that manner -raised by a white parent not around African Americans sounds like that. He was just very good at code switching to further his political career. Neither good or bad, just a standard politician.
Glenn is so accurate about BHO. There was an opportunity there for him to lead the country and he didn't. He chose to kow-tow to the ignorant and violent masses. Our country is far worse after his mismanagement of this situation.
@@rosgill6 both made great points. Institutions and media, the fourth estate, amplified by the accessibility of social media, definitely played a major role...AND Obama did fall extremely short on his promise and, effectively, wasn't any different than any other previous modern president, and the fact is race relations did sour under his watch....passionate and rationale contention and even contrarian points of view is what people need to hear and see which is what is on display in this clip....if only people had the time to listen to long-form contests.
@@clayerkwiltee2315 That's a hard question to answer, but one thing is certain, you nor I don't and i'm fairly certain Glenn nor John do either. Though I could think of quite a few names who do know the people who sit at the top of society, if not including themselves.
It's so sad that so many will strip and disregard these men of their opinions (and their heritage, for that matter) because they don't follow the narrative.
I too was caught up in the enthusiasm around Barack Obama. When he squandered the opportunity to hold Wall Street accountable for the 2008 crash my enthusiasm ended. Looking at his presidency and post presidency I have to agree with Glenn, he is a very intelligent and eloquent con man. Sort of like the second coming of Bill Clinton.
First time I heard h speak I thought “this guy is either a moron, or he truly thinks everyone addressing is a total idiot.” It was always crap. Glen is right: “It all sounded kind of vapid.”
The crash of 2008 cannot be solely blamed on Wall Street. Lending practices in place for decades were forced to be lenient under Clinton. What do you think happens when you give large loans to people and don’t check their income? stated loans…. That’s what lenders were forced to do or be fined. I’m not saying Wall Street is innocent, but the government had a VERY LARGE ROLE in this. If skeptical, see the student loan debt crisis. Ever since government took over student loan lending in 2010…pushed banks out…to alleviate the”red tape”. Now look… and Maxine Waters tried to blame it on the banks but they shoved it right in her face!
President Obama did NOT create the crash. Thanks to him and the changes he made, many survived the crash, changes like allowing the unemployed to get the Pell Grant if close to obtaining their college degree without having to look for a job. Also the Cobra credit when employers had to pay 65% of Cobra medical insurance costs did laid off employees. He extended unemployment several times. If not for him, many would not have survived and many more would have lost their homes. He was the best president in my voting lifetime . He took over the presidency when unemployment was thirteen percent in Oregon. He left with it at 4.5 percent. He brought hope to people. Trump was about bringing hatred and sexism!!
@@jim5149 you’re so full of crap. Obama didn’t create the crash but he sure bailed out Wall Street and allowed banks to evict millions of Americans. ( mostly blacks and brown people). He doesn’t care about his own people, he only cares about money.
I SO wish I would’ve discovered the two of you sooner in my life. I can truly say, Glenn, John.. you’ve helped me to see the world and politics in such an honest way that has meaningfully assisted my evolution. Thank you 🙏🏾
What would our nation look like if our first Black president had called for calm and circumspection in the Trayvon and Brown cases, and made sure that his governance was characterized by an affirmative that racism as a system was over? He could have said, "Look, I'm a Black man in the oval office - it's time to stop pretending that the Black community is limited at all. If you put your mind to it, and make all the necessary sacrifices, every Black man or woman can achieve and succeed in today's America. I know the details of our nation's racist past, but my being president PROVES that we are at last past all that. We HAVE overcome! Time to treat one another as human beings - period."
Right on Dr. Lowery! I enjoyed listening to you and your debate with John. In a previous podcast John was pessimistic about his message getting out. I encourage both of you to keep on if I saying what’s on your mind it’s so refreshing. A few people will begin to understand and they will in turn help others to understand that race doesn’t mean everything.
Great discussion. Of course, perhaps the problem regarding your disappointment in political leaders is founded in the reality that political leaders are politicians who's first commitment is to election and re-election. Thus they play the crowd rather than set an example. This has long been the case, particularly in the oval office, but as well in the houses of congress and the supreme court. I completely understand your disappointment in Obama as a president who missed a great opportunity to narrow the racial divide in the country, but you really shouldn't have been surprised.
I remember in one of their previous discussions, John mentioned that in order to spread his and Glenn's ideas, they would need someone eloquent with reverend's cadence, MLK-like if you will. Listening to Glen speak here, I think he would be that voice. He speaks quite eloquently, with a genuine and contagious, righteous indignation. I mean "don't you go get him started!"
}}} @10:00 "Do you really think...."? Obama is a fucking ward-heeling Chicago political hustler, dude. You needed to elect Jackie Robinson, you voted for Al Sharpton Lite.
"With Obama not in a position to know any better"? Again, dude, he is a race-baiting political hustler who took a problematic case with a HISPANIC and a BLACK person and turned it into something about White Vs. Black. Obama is THE PRESIDENT. He knew who both Martin and Zim were within A DAY of the event. His PR flacks and intel people easily had access to reams of info about BOTH of them, and he clearly could have poured water on the fire by making it CLEAR to people that Zim was a stand-up guy not only lacking a racist history, but a history of DEFENDING blacks when their own community wouldn't do it. Obama certainly had access to summaries of Martin's FB "MMA" type posts, showing what a vicious little wannabe THUG he was, and the fact that the school he was in had tossed him out for his second instance of drug possession. There is no way in HELL Obama would ever have accepted Martin into his family. He would have had this stuff within 24 hours, probably within EIGHT. He could have made Zim's history of standing up a homeless black man against police brutality, and getting him some semblance of justice when the local black community was totally disinterested in doing anything for the guy widespread public knowledge. Instead, he stood by and said nothing while the merdia DELIBERATELY ran race relations into the toilet. Now, don't get me wrong, Martin was who he was because his parents had no business having children. They were both ridiculously irresponsible as parents, raised a child who would have been in and out of jail for his entire life, whatever there was of it, more than likely. He certainly would have wound up with a long rap sheet... again, because his parents were worthless. The mother sends him to be with his father after his latest escapade, getting tossed out of school -- what is the father's response? To recognize he had a troubled child very much on the wrong path? No he leaves the kid alone, ditches him, to go out with his GF. My response to him is an indictment: "You fucking piece of shit bastard, why the hell would anyone worthy of the term 'adult' do that to a blatantly troubled teen put into your care, much less your own offspring?" I'm with Glenn, here. Obama poured kerosene on a fire, and laughed as he did it.
Glenn has the courage of a lion in taking this on; one of America's foremost intellectuals. The reality is this is too hot to handle for most people, including I fear Mr. McWhorter, whom I otherwise admire. Or else perhaps McWhorter is arguing in good faith, in which case his view is blinkered inside a highly refined elite bubble that cannot grasp commonsense. Camille Paglia has noted how much race relations were set back by decades by said occupant. It is a human tragedy, when he could have been so much more transcendent in uniting people, that he would choose to endlessly divide the polity along racial lines for cheap Democratic point-scoring. The result will be far more tensions, distrust, enmity, and I fear violence. There was a psychotic, even a sociopathic, aspect to driving up tensions in this way. Meanwhile simple concepts like a universal rule of law -- however imperfectly realized, and however betrayed in the past -- remain the goal for social stability. But of course that gets in the way of the left's Marxist revolution in our streets. Hence also the dropped prosecutions and absurd double standards for 1/6 versus 4 months last summer when entire city blocks were incinerated...
I've been saying the same thing, that he could have been a transformative president. And I'm a republican activist. I felt some people voted for him simply because he was black, because it would be so cool. But in Jan 2009 I said a little nonpartisan prayer that maybe he could do some good. So very disappointing, and devastating for all of us.
I agree, and am aligned similarly to yourself. I myself felt at the time that he was what he was accused of being by the Right, and I think he validated all of their concerns in due course. I thought he was a canny, cynical operator then, and time has born that belief out, and the insanity of the Democratic Party today, while not wholly of Obama's doing, is surely largely of his and his fellow travelers' doing.
The majority of Black people voted for Obama because they thought he would address some long standing issues they lost hope in ever being addressed. Thats the pots bottom truth
Without wide, top down endorsement of CRT in journalism and elsewhere (emotional reason, direct action everywhere) the movement toward violence in politics could never have gotten off the ground.it was prepared as astro turf before the deaths that were manipulated in order to foment crises.
Love this. Yes, social media exacerbated, but BOH could have chosen to lead rather than just follow the prompting of his handlers. He could have set a whole different tone, the "let's not jump to conclusions but see what the facts on the ground really are" direction that a real leader would have gone with.
I didn’t vote Obama, but considered him my president and prayed he would bring racial healing. The opposite happened and it can’t all be blamed on “technology”! He was MIA when we needed him most, joined the Washington elite, and was partly responsible for who was elected next.
Historians & those who spent time w/him in the Oval describe Obama as always “disengaged.” For me, I feared him from jump. Given the deluded masses smoking HOPEium his potential for harm was great. The adoring media narrative buried his Kissinger/CIA connection & the fact he was simply a Walk St. tool. Ultimately, if not for Obama, we’d not have Joe.
This is good. You guys pull no punches and always present your views clearly and thoughtfully. While I'm a fan of Obama (and I have my criticisms of him as I do all our presidents), I can respect your perspectives. Good job.
Just ran across this. Thank you for sticking to your true colors. Way to go full throttle on the black guy. 43 white men held this office and didn't do shit but you expect the one black guy to heal all. Keep dancing Glenn
