For me, first fight : obi wan wins mid high diff Second fight : obi wan wins high diff Third fight : obi wan wins extreme diff Fourth fight : obi wan wins high diff Fifth fight : darth vader wins high diff Its logic
"Canon" Obi wan Mustafar >> Anakin Obiwan Kenobi >>> Vader It doesn't matter if Anakin doesn't show his full potential because of his anger, if you put "Canon Mustafar" it is obvious that Obi Wan wins both in the movie, and in the comic it is a canonical event... You are not putting Anakin at his full potential... I don't know why Anakin fans are so blind, when Obi Wan defeated Anakin and Vader twice in the Canon 😂
ROTJ Vader >>> ANH Vader >>> Ben Kenobi (ANH) >>> Rebels Vader >>> Rebels Kenobi >>> KS Kenobi >>> KS Vader >>> Mustafar Kenobi >>> Mustafar Vader Hard to scale Knightfall Vader here, imo he lands somewhere between ANH Vader and Ben Kenobi
@@SidiousEdits87Mustafar Kenobi isn't stronger than Mustafar Vader. They were quite equel and both got amps and nerfs (for a certain degree) but Mustafar Vader was still slightly stronger than Post IH Anakin.
Um that should be Obi-Wan wins 3-2 not Anakin Skywalker wins 2-3, because if you watch ROTS Obi-Wan won so you were wrong on that one. Obi-Wan won because Anakin was so consumed and overwhelmed by the dark side he lost.
Exactly! Glad someone understands the facts, because there're some people in the comments who are totally ignoring the truth and offending me for trying to help by giving them facts of the Mustafar fight. I'm very happy reading your comment, lol, so keep doing what you're doing! Good luck with everything man!! 😁👍
@@Thesonof-sf3rr No he didn't, if that were true, Anakin would have won. The main problem with Anakin is that, despite all the power and skill he had over his master, he was just TOO prideful. And that excessive pride is what let to Obi-Wan successfully "tricking" Anakin into making that jump over the high ground. Which as we all know, resulted in Anakin's defeat and his transformation into something more machine than man. Do you understand now?
@@TheRebornExpert well u can watch the fight again anakin was way stronger better dualist then obiwan in that time But if anakin wins there will be no vader and episode 2 will not exists Also anakin was arrogant and conflicted if he didnt had those weaknes he would already kill kenbi in the first 5 minutes
@@Thesonof-sf3rr I've watched Episode III too many times to count, so trust me when I say that I know all the ups and downs of Obi-Wan and Anakin's fight in Mustafar. Anakin may be the better dualist and more stronger physically and in the Force than Obi-Wan, however, being the better dualist doesn't necessarily make you stronger. You need to have a strong mind and the ability to focus in the toughest of times. And Anakin didn't have that, but his master did. Ok, regarding your 2nd point, you're very mistaken in various points. First of all, what do you mean by "episode 2"? Remember that their fight happens in Episode 3 not 2. And Anakin was already given the Sith title of *Darth Vader* once he helped Sidious kill Windu and decided to join the Dark Side to save Padme. You have to remember that Anakin having the iconic dark suit doesn't make him Darth Vader. He would still be Darth Vader even if he hadn't burned on Mustafar. That "special" suit only serves to keep him alive and to bring him unimaginable pain, which makes his connection to the Dark Side of the Force even stronger. And for your third and last point, well yeah, Anakin was obviously NOT in the right state of mind during the fight. That is what I've said already to many people who disagree with the facts, like you, lol. If Anakin had been more focused and less prideful, then he wouldn't have tried to make that stupid jump that got him burned. And he would eventually tire Obi-Wan out and successfully kill him in the end. So the *TL;DR* is: *Anakin was stronger in almost every way than Obi-Wan. Unfortunately for Anakin, Obi-Wan knew how to take advantage of his prideful nature and lack of focus, which in that fight, made Obi-Wan mentally "stronger" than Anakin. Which gave him the advantage over his fallen apprentice.*
The thing is we are comparing their power and abilities it is said that the thing happened to ani in Mustafar was worst case scenario being arrogant feeling betrayed being new to darkside feeling his wife has betrayed to him his master betrayed to him all of wich blinded ani and make him do that stupid jump although he couldve done lot of more other things that semi clear minded vader would do Anakin in Mustafar if not for all of the things on the above was the most powerful version of ani in terms of power and if he had little bit of training in darkside he wouldve demolished ben like he did to the jedis in the jedi temple
It states in the novel, by obi wan, if Anakin DIDN'T take the bait of the high ground, then it was over for him. He knew he was f*cked if anakin waited and ran up to him instead of jumping over him
Yes but ani could of win if he was being smarter it’s just cause he was blinded by rage and hatred and also obi wan was ani’s master so he knew his weakness
I don’t agree with the outcome of the last form. George Lucas himself said at the time of a new hope Obi wan’s power level was a 6 and darth vaders was a 4. (I would also argue that in revenge of the sith Obi Wan had more dueling feats than Anakin due to the council sending him on more missions than Anakin)
It’s canon prime. Prime vader>grandmaster yoda=rots sidious Vader was also winning the fight in ANH even if obi wan gave up. Vader had the upper hand the whole time.
If Anakin wasnt dumb to jump on to obi Anakin would win, it was just a silly egotistical mistake, anakin always pretty much had the edge in the duel until he got too cocky and did that
@@diogomoreirashorts That still counts as a win for Obi-Wan though. Regardless of Anakin's power, Obi-Wan was simply a better fighter in that moment, because he remain calm and collected, while Anakin was enraged and wasn't thinking straight. So the win MUST go to Obi-Wan, not Anakin.
@@that-one-guy4747 Yeah, but nevertheless, Anakin still LOST and Obi-Wan WON. You can say that Obi-Wan was the most "powerful" duelist in that moment, simply due to his calm and collected mind, while Anakin was intoxicated with the Dark Side and wasn't thinking straight during the battle. Thus, that Mustafar part of the video is wrong and it should be counted as a WIN for Obi-Wan and a LOSS for Anakin.
@@TheMaskedMoron he got played by palpatine like a fiddle bro. Like he falls for the dumbest shit in that trilogy. Also yes, being arrogant and letting it affect his decisions does make him less smart, because a smarter person wouldn’t be arrogant and let it affect their decisions
