@Shadownailshot even after a friend commits a heinous crime, standing in front of them with absolute permission to kill them with no comeback, only a sociopath would pull a trigger
Can we also take note and appreciate the fact Obi-Wan’s lightsaber ignition sound has been rightfully corrected, especially after having to hear the Sith ignition sound for it constantly in the Disney+ series!
Absolutely! I don't understand how do you work on an official Star Wars project for Lucasfilm & screw up the most important details. Good thing we have fan edits!
It would get old if it were in every duel. Besides, the music between Luke and Vader fighting is, imo, better. There's so much emotion in that duel and in the song itself that it still gives me goosebumps when I watch it.
@@roadkillz78 It's an exaggeration meant to appreciate the song. I do the same thing with the Suicide Mission score from Mass Effect 2. It wouldn't *literally* make any irl activity more awesome, but I like to say it would because it's an awesome soundtrack that's all about grit and perseverance to defeat impossibility
Right Revas scenes ruined it they kept cutting back to her and I was pissed I thought it wasted the movie/show. Like wasn’t this the kenobi series ?? Not reva series
Good god, the color grading on this is soooo good. The lightsabers just pop out of the abyss so much better now. And as so many others have said the addition of actual John Williams music makes this feel sooooooooooooo much better. Such a shame he wasn’t used more for the show.
It’s because Disney thinks they know better than 40 years of special FX experts and they use “real” lightsabers, essentially the $20 electronic plastic ones you get from the store because “the lighting effects look more authentic” ya except for the fact it looks like when my brother and I would turn off the lights in our basement and play with our lightsabers. You can’t see shit and it fucks with the ability to do good fight choreography like in the prequels.
@@jeezus557 I heard that they were using the high end sabers on set. Even so, the brighter you make them, the better they looked. (And yes, I love my legacy sabers).
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Dude!! How is it a guy on youtube can make this fight sooo much more intence than the people who were PAID to make it?!? Seriously this video had my heart pumping, keep it up man!!
Come on, don't be a smartass. Who hires these editors? Who do these editors work for? The studios. Especially when, you know, we're talking about frigging Disney, of all studios. @@craighicksartwork
It still gives me chills to have been in this fandom long enough to go from the Jedi Apprentice books of Obi-Wan struggling to move a simple pebble to just absolutely bombarding Vader with everything he can possibly throw at him. Literally.
Really liked how the color grading made this scene look! The brighter tone made it feel much better from the darkness originally. The lightsabers are slightly desaturated but thats honestly for the better cause it makes then shine much better in the dark. Also, I really liked how you were able to seamlessy cut the battle down by moving shots closer (like how instead of having Obi-Wan and Vader do the back-on-back hits you instead opted to immediately cut towards when Obi-Wan grabbed Vader's wrist and move him) Its a really good way to shorten the fight and It works really seamlessly! Also, Duel of the Fates with Battle of the Heroes is always a win so great music choice there too. Noticed you also resounded it and the extra impact sounds definitely make it feel more of a duel than before. Still definitely don't like shaky cam but thats not something that can be fixed without warping. Great job!
@@D4NT3_BL4xX agreed, and it actually takes away from the character. He’s not supposed to be a force powerhouse like that. Displaying his creativity and tenacity would benefit so much more
@@MrChink360 If you'd cut Obi-Wans screentime of the show the right way, you could make him look like the biggest pedo in Star Wars😂 Anyway, it was so weird that his thoughts of Leia gave him back his will to get out of there and win against Vader
That colour grading is perfect, you have restored the scene to a watchable state. And of course the soundtrack is infinitely better than in the series. Oh and I forgot to mention with the colour changes it actually looks a lot more like the originals, especially at the start, although some of the CGI is a bit more apparent.
Part of that reason is the new lightsaber props. In TFA, the behind the scenes show they basically use an actual prop saber, like SaberForge or something, so that the actors have the lighting on their body. It kind of makes sense. The characters can see the color, the blade is a glowing with light. Why isn't the color coming off of it? Cuz they didn't think of that allot in the older production films. The actual choreography and dialogue and effects in other places took priority, plus as everyone clearly feels, it does visually get in the way.
@@hophoppington-hoppenhiemer2016 In addition to casting light, the saber props also help with reflections such as those on Vader's helmet. It's doable with CGI, but a lot of work to make it look convincing.
@@cass7448 Yeah, but the grade fucked it up and I think the LED's are way to intense for "natural" light. I mean if it were a real lightsaber we couldn't see shit, so its definetely not real, but if it didn't look so compressed and blown it would look way less, like a fan-film.
I also don't like the fact that they spark so much . That would be a flaw lightsaber craftsman would've fixed immediately because of the risk of a Jedi or sith weapon sparking them in the face in combat . Seems to be a thing Disney started with the new trilogy and ran with.
@@MrFreakinAwesome20 These sparks have been around for many years, in all the old and new star wars games there are these sparks the new Disney movies and series just got this effect from the games, but that doesn't make sense because the old movies didn't have that, and neither I know why they added it currently, as you said it can cause burn to the user
This is fantastic! With the lighting making it easier to see, you appreciate Hayden and Ewan's fight choreography and practice more. Hayden is a beast, and makes Vader the absolute force of nature that he was always meant to be ❤
wasnt acctually hayden fighting in this scene, vader was played by three different dudes. one 6'7 giant for the full body shots, hayden for the rest of the acting portions and then another guy who specialised in the choreography.
WOW. I thought the fight wasn't too bad the way it aired, but DAMN this is SO MUCH BETTER!! Seeing this scene completely uninterrupted makes such a huge difference to the overall enjoyment of it. The recoloring as well as adding Duel of the Fates are details that I can't believe weren't a part of the original cut. Then cutting the part when Vader traps Obi-wan under the rubble was a huge improvement to the overall pacing. I'm truly blown away by how much of a better job you did with this epic moment. Bravo sir!
The color grading looks fantastic. I'm not sure why Peak TV has decided everything needs to be too dark to see now, but it's getting in the way of some good fight choreography. That being said, I think Natalie Holt's existing score works for this scene. There are choral elements, and the Obi-Wan theme composed by Williams swells as Kenobi finally gets his mojo back. I worry the SW fandom is too attached to certain musical cues and is unwilling to even listen to new stuff, which really shortchanges the hard work that went into the score for this show. I also think Duel of the Fates is more of a "spectacle" piece and doesn't really fit with the more personal nature of the duel (though you've cut out Obi-Wan's character beat in the middle, which also kind of undercuts the sequence). It conveys tone, but not the nuance of the moment.
I agree with everything you said. Initially I liked the dark color grading of the original fight, and I feel this to be a tad bright + desaturated. However the darkness of the original definitely focuses more on the lightsabers moving rather than some of the really good choreography that I got to appreciate more here. And nothing to add on what you said about the music, I completely agree. Duel of the Fates is great but Star Wars should be allowed to keep changing and Natalie Holt's score fit perfectly.
I was about to post a response quite like this, but repetition. As much as I love "Duel of the Fates" and the "Battle of Heroes," those times are over. Thematically, it doesn't make sense for this fight. I remember, as an OT guy, cringing at the PT music simply because it was new. These days, I try to set my prejudice aside and just appreciate the scores as best I can and give them time to gain meaning within my personal love of Star Wars. Lighting? Yes. Between that and "shaky camera," I'm a bit over it.
As much as I disliked Holt's work on the series, I think her music improved during the second half of the show and I didn't mind the score for the duel sequence. John Williams' work was, is and will forever be untouchable but I don't think it belongs here either. Let's be honest, how many of us - had Disney opted to use it for that scene - would have groaned in disdain and called it hokey fan service ? Quite a few innit ?
I do love the color grade. It not only makes the cinematography stand out more, but it does kinda remind me more of the darker scenes from _The Empire Strikes Back._
When I first watched this fight scene I had waited since 77' for it to take place ( ok, there was the Mustaphar rumble but Ani hadn't transformed yet ) and was awestruck....this regrading and editting takes it way beyond awestruck !!! Brilliant job. Thanks for sharing.
Anyone with a decent TV got a great experience in the real version… there’s no way this looks better unless you’re watching it sat outside in broad daylight, with sunlight all over the screen😂
Jesus Christ this is Genius! This could be better than the original from Disney plus! The lightsabers look better, the music fits with the duel perfectly and the background colors are way more visible. This should have been the actual cut Disney should have used instead of what we were actually given. Great work!
You can most certainly blame the production team that was hired to do Kenobi. They botched this show. Judging by the Andor teaser, it already looks 100% better with the cinematography, in fact that same director who did the acclaimed Rogue One is literally doing that Disney+ show. So, half the time I wouldn't say it's Disney's fault, but more so that actual people that should be blamed.
@@wanyekest6969 i would say that nor Disney or the production team was the problem... the budget was the problem, if i tell you how much they had, you are going to be surprised by how good it is "apart from 2 or 3 things" they had 90$ Milion, for the entire show this means likely..... 15 Milions per episode, it's actually pretty impressive
You made the lightsabers the way the were, actual energy blades instead of Disney's light sticks! And with the score, as well as the colour grading, this is amazing! Well done! Really loved this!
My brain is broken over what you are saying in this comment. They made the lightsabers actual energy instead of light sticks. I don’t even know where to go with this. What a brain dead statement.
Like why, what’s the implication? The Disney ones look fake because there is more color? I don’t understand. I just watched the Disney one after reading this comment and they are the exact same. Minus the fact that the color pops more on the source material.
@@mitchellbrinkerdp not exactly, it looks fake because of its like rugged camera movement, how theres sparks when the lightsabers colide etc. If u think that the disney one looks good, then its fine by me. I liked the way the it looked in the originals and prequels, a white energy blade with the respective coloured aura. To me, that is a lightsaber, not this disney glow stick
I'm so unbelievably impressed at how you've stopped that colour bleed being intrusive, I didn't believe anyone could fix the sabers in this show, it was like cartoon colours painted on their faces. Bravo sir, you're a master of your trade. Do you plan to fix the colour on their first fight?
@@EthanRom The sequels use light emitting sabers as well, but I think the force awakens fight looks great. These are just too bright or saturated, I think the dark is the main issue because the sabers in the flashback fight looked better
@@EthanRom the sequels bit sounds unrelated sorry, what I mean is real lightsabers are great but I don't think the show had the time to learn to use them the way the sequels did
@@TimeToRemind I think that they just needed to make the strength of the light weaker, enough to make a glow, but not enough to overpower. I was just upset that ppl are insinuating that the older lightsaber vfx were better
What a gorgeous edit! The music, colors and adjusted pacing of the fight are excellent. As much as I liked the TV series final battle, this one ticks all the right boxes for me. Fantastic work.
I can never understand the decision to make the whole scene dark and grainy, we get it that it's very dark on that planet, but couldn't they add a moonlight to illuminate the whole thing?
forget the music, just the fact that you didn't have two storylines being switched between makes this so much better. Constantly coming out of the fight took away the intensity. Why Disney thought interupting it every 30 seconds was a good idea I will never know.
I just now noticed before obiwan bombards him with rocks he only gets the true upper hand on Vader once he uses Anakin's old "Hayden spinning attack" on him twice. It just goes to show how much Vader knew obi wans technique so well that the master has to use his old apprentice's signature move to best him... Tragic when you realize at this point he still didn't know Vader was Anakin.
You can actually see the choreography in this and it’s actually not bad. Compared to the actual show where all you can see is what the lightsabers light up.
Love the part at the end ( 3:40 ) when the theme suddenly stops instead of continuing to its epic finale. It's more immersive as the music abruptly ending fits in with the fight abruptly ending with Vader's helmet being cut
I mostly agree, but could have been a few shades darker, or at least for some scenes. I did see what they were trying to do there with the original darker lighting. Which was to cover up their shody craftsmanship. The mediocre CGI and at times "very obviously a set." Needs darker lighting and shadows to hide the obvious detail. The brighter lighting of this edit exposes that in a few scenes. ( 2:35-3:05 ) A few shades darker and it would have looked a little more natural. Small nitpick, and still Disney's fault.
For a grand total of 4 minutes and 17 seconds the magic was back... even if you cant monetize this video i appreciate you bringing the magic back to star wars even just for this short amount of time... i miss the magic...
Loved the use of that Force Unleashed force push sound effect for when Kenobi starting throwing the rocks at Vader. Simple sound effect, but I'll never forget it from all the hours of TFU that I played.
I love how the show finally showed us just how powerful in the Force Obi-Wan really was. Not quite Yoda levels, but definitely more powerful than Qui-Gon, and nearly as powerful as Return of the Jedi Luke but of course not as strong as Luke’s full power, but enough he could have saved the Galaxy by ending Vader right then and there.
Whatever you did to edit the part where Obi-Wan repeatedly strikes Vader's chest plate, braaaavo. Seriously, the original looks like Vader is just standing there letting it happen. You did something to add speed and f o r c e to those blows that literally make Vader look restrained and unable to counter. Fantastic improvement on that alone.
Bruh he’s getting struck directly to the lungs at that point, imagine the needles that are piercing deeper as well, I would stand still too if I got the wind knocked out of me every second, I’d say Vader recovered quickly considering that’s his most vulnerable spot that was getting smashed in
The reason why Vader is standing there (at least my opinion) is because when Obi-Wan starts hitting his control panel you see some sparks come out, and also seeing Vaders stance while this is happening, it's quite possible he's either getting a bit electrocuted or some of his body stops functioning. Also, during this time that Obi-Wan is hitting his panel the thing that helps Vader breathe goes out out a bit. That's why when it comes back on, you hear a gasp from Vader and he's mobile again
@@ThetrueHeero no they're just brainstorming why it could be valid? I'm gonna be honest I didn't see anything wrong with the original right besides the cuts and it not being continuous. To me these are two different versions of the same encounter that portray is differently to a degree but especially change the emotions and general vibe that the viewer leaves with after watching the scene. This creator has done an absolutely fantastic job no doubt, but I'd like to hear what you disliked about the original version 😄
I'm glad you did this. I don't know what disney's problem is, but for this show and Bad Batch, they insist on making everything so dark you can't see what the heck is happening.
Imagine if you and Kai Patterson joined together to build an actual theatrical edit release. It would be utterly unreal. Your amendments made this sequence so much more intense, aesthetically pleasing and immersive. Disney need to be hiring people such as yourself when it comes to editing.
This perfectly demonstrates what I’ve been saying about lightsabers in Kenobi, they colour they give off is so overpowering but this version still shows off the blue and red light they give off but it’s not too much, perfection
I agree that DotF is a good add in for the start, but towards the end, the original score actually helps to make the defeat of Vader more somber, which I think is the point. But it certainly helped make the cool fight theatrics more intense.
This Is excelllent!! The colour correction makes IT So much better!! I hate when duels and key scenes Are happening in dark!! You really improved this duel!! Even their lightsabers look better And more realistic not like some flashlights!! This Is my favourite version Now!!
John Williams is a musical genius, and a huge credit to the brand’s identity. The music, specially at the the beginning and ending elevates the scene entirely
I like how you can see that here Obi-Wan takes on a more offensive/aggressive style in general, though especially with his final blow, calling back to the fact that he originally mastered form 4 before he transitioned to become *the* master of form 3. And with him mixing in the force into his saber combat we see some form 6 as well. What made the battle in Episode 3 so pitched was the fact that Obi Wan and Anakin both knew each others styles so well from all their years together. Vader was forced to change his style so Obi Wan lost all that familiarity. So he had to change his usual tactics and style with almost uncharacteristic, episode 1 like aggression and showing out his offensive force abilities to win
This fight is so good. But I still cannot accept that Vader would lose to Obi-Wan after 10 years in the suit and Kenobi aging/being out of practice. Yes, he rekindled his connection to the force. But to me, it smells a little like Rey pulling force powers out of her ass to defeat the villain. Obviously on a much smaller scale than the travesty that is Rey as a character, but him being at full strength all of a sudden after recently having half of his body BURNED and not touching his lightsaber in god knows how long does not feel justified.
That's the way they write Disney Star Wars. No care for logical sequence of events or real character motivations, just 'We need this next part of the plot to happen, so this happens to get us there'.
Ok, now that I can actually see what is going on I can appreciate how good the overall choreography is. Like damn, it actually FLOWS and it's not clunky, dark mess. All it takes is good video and audio editor xD
this is the best use of the duel of fates in fan edits of kenobi show ive seen! the patterson cut kinda used the theme as is, while you used the flourishes as a composer!
I feel that the removal of “the weakness still remains” made the scene far more immersive, like Anakin v Obi, all that needed to be said was displayed in the fight
The best music edeting for this scene I've seen so far. Also the new color grading makes the scene a thousand times better. Congrats, this is a great achievement!
So much better. Can see whats happening more and the timing is perfect. Kenobi being buried alive just drew the fight out even more and was annoying but this was just perfectly cut.