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There are many objections to Tall el-Hammam being Biblical Sodom. This is the first episode of a series in which Dr. Collins answers some of the most common of these objections.
In this episode, Gary and Dr. C discuss charnel houses at Bab edhDhra, and the correct time period of Abraham.
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Комментарии : 15   
@truincanada
@truincanada 2 дня назад
More, more more and thank you gentlemen! Watching closely and sharing across the world. Blessings guys.
@wesplybon9510
@wesplybon9510 2 месяца назад
Thank you! Really appreciate the time to do this. I think this series is necessary. It's getting old seeing the same RU-vid faces making the same objections to Hammam. I have a lot of respect for those people and the work they do, but it seems like they come after this research with a vigor unlike any other topic. Their data is "more concrete", and their arguments "more certain" on this topic than anything else they talk about. I have my suspicions about why, but that's largely conjecture. Even if this only sparks more of those videos or reaction videos to this, at least yours are out and available to provide some kind of retort. It would be interesting to see some back and forth, though, if it heads in that direction. As long as it stays civil 🤣 Thank you, again!
@chandapinto1630
@chandapinto1630 2 месяца назад
So Epic. Amazing information ! Thanks again
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz 2 месяца назад
I really do think the issue comes down to the debate between the early or late date of the Exodus. I’ve debated between the two since first getting into archaeology and serious biblical studies. For me the evidence at Tel El Hammam is one of the strongest extra-biblical pieces of evidence for the late date. The destruction is unique and perfectly fits the text for the destruction of Sodom. It really can’t be anything else given its intensity, scope, and location. Any competing event for ‘Fire from heaven’ pales in comparison. Just as Tel El Hammam can’t be easily dismissed by skeptics of the Bible, it also cannot be easily dismissed in the debate over the date of the exodus. My conclusion is either the dating of the destruction layer at Tel El Hammam is off or the early date for the Exodus needs to be reevaluated and a late date looks more likely. There’s clearly something symbolic going on with the numbering and names in the table of nations and patriarchs. The question for me is how to honestly and correctly interpret the text while also using extra-biblical evidence as a sounding board for when an interpretation needs re-evaluation.
@MC91B
@MC91B 2 месяца назад
Bravo! Finally found the Socrates in the City. MORE PLEASE. Can't wait for the reports.
@eagleeye761
@eagleeye761 2 месяца назад
Objections... you had to know they were inevitable...I've followed your work for 10+ years... and found it to be the most logical through your biblical research and archeological field work. Thank you for the maximum efforts of transparency in all these years.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 2 месяца назад
Nothing is so irritating than a person who won't listen to facts, because they're stuck on Sulphur balls.
@jimschlaegel8454
@jimschlaegel8454 Месяц назад
Obviously a response to Joel Kramer's recent video. This is what we need... direct analysis of the specific information available. For us laymen, who understand the Biblical account as literal, these archeological/seminary infighting sessions can be disheartening and so very confusing. One man's argument seems right, until you hear the other's argument. How about a neutral-ground debate of the analysis of the Scriptural exegesis and all the evidence from the ground... like a long-format podcast on Associates for Biblical Research? There are men associated with ABR on both sides of the argument, and some open clarity would be so helpful to honest seekers of the truth. And I do hope one of those questions deal with the location of Zoar, its location on the ancient mosaic, and how Lot could have escaped there in the Biblical timeframe, why it seems to be alone in its escape from the sulfur balls found in that plain and other cities, and the apparent location of "Lot's Cave" in the immediate vicinity. There was obviously an atmospheric blast event at Hammam, but also a seeming atmospheric sulfur event in the southern plain, and if Hamman was actually Shittim, then why no mention of it anywhere... it doesn't make sense. We need a Biblical model that explains all the data, not just the data that espouses one dig site and the archeological careers of those involved... we get enough of that with all the gov't funded "research" that will only ensure whatever propaganda they desire. Please help us out here... the us being the very interested, but non-expert class of believers. We feel like parents whose kids are fighting in the back seat... and we really don't want to stop the car and dump both of them out.
@sarahlachman1349
@sarahlachman1349 2 месяца назад
Great video! Its a same that in the world of science, it seems like the only time someone's work is accepted is after they've died from Einstein to Wegener and Mendel to Boltzmann Of course it is in the nature of scientists to question things as Dr. Collins himself did with rethinking what was/is still kind of the popular theory of sodom's location being in the south rather then the more likely site to the north. The established thinking and the gate keeping establishment whose careers and pride depend on upholding certin knowledge to be fact will always be the greatest obstacle to the truth! I pray that one day your work will be given the credit it deserves.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 2 месяца назад
The Exodus was in 1446 B.C. and, (According to the scriptures.) Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was *four hundred and thirty years* {Exodus 12:40} Placing Abraham's 75th year in 1876 B.C. and his birth around 1951 B.C. Making the destruction of cities of the plain around 1852 B.C.
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz 2 месяца назад
The early vs. late date of the Exodus is a key debate in biblical archaeology. 1446 BC works well for some of the evidence, but it doesn’t work with other evidence. Same with the late date. It’s not a simple issue and regardless of which view you take there are problems to address. There is a real debate among believers of good faith and trust in the Bible on this issue.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 2 месяца назад
@@Nathan-vt1jz We get the date directly from the scriptures from the building of the temple by Solomon. There is no debate.
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz 2 месяца назад
@@larrybedouin2921 No we do not get the date directly from the text, we have to take the Biblical descriptions of the timing and chronology of events then interpret how that fits into our dating system. There are no AD or BC dates given in scripture. We have to accurately interpre how the Hebrews recorded things, then combine that interpretation with our own dating system. It’s similar to our troubles getting all the dates of the lineage of the kings in Israel sorted out, it took till Thiel’s work on the issue before we really nailed down that chronology. So when we come across a significant find which challenges our chronological interpretation and timeline, it behoves us to honestly re-evaluate. We need to look closely at the dating of the new evidence and our old interpretation/assumptions. Tel El Hammam is too significant of a site with a clearly exceptional destruction layer to ignore. I’m not going to ignore it just because the early date of the Exodus is simpler, in the same way Thiel didn’t stick with the simple chronology of the kings. I fully believe in the inspiration and inerrancy of the original manuscripts (also in its reliable transmission), but I do not believe our interpretations are inspired. So we either got the archaeology dating wrong in this case (of course possible) or our interpretation/assembly of the chronology from scripture is wrong (also possible). It’s a debate among believers on how best to put together an accurate chronology.
@anatomicallymodernhuman5175
@anatomicallymodernhuman5175 2 месяца назад
I wish you would get into more depth. Dating things that old is not a simple or straightforward matter. There are error bars. There are uncertainties. I would like to see you deal with those and admit the uncertainties. Talk about the methods. Evaluate the evidence itself for us rather than just passing on these vague generalities.
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