Obscure Models From the Muscle Car Glory Days 

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and a less than desirable year at that

Thats true bro

People forget that American muscle could and DID compete with the best Europe had to offer. Carroll Shelby SPANKED Enzo Ferrari at his own game on his own continent. Three years running the Fords totally dominated the Ferrari's. American ROADS were wider, more forgiving and MOST importantly far longer than European roads. We have states bigger than European countries. So cars were built to match conditions. That "boat" was appreciated on a thousand mile trip. And we, as opposed to the Europeans were more concerned with 1/4 mile acceleration than handling. Just a difference in taste. When gasoline was dirt cheap and before we KNEW about pollution what was a few gallons of gas? And finally, the "cheap" European iron , equivalent in price to our muscle cars were no match in any department. A different time, with different needs. I recall the early European imports to the USofA. Total and complete JUNK. Peugeot anyone? Fiat? What did the original Cobra sell for? $3000.00? Yep, European body, chassis and brakes, but how bout when the 427SC made its debut? Brand spanking new from the ground up. Needed a bigger tubular frame, suspension and even the body was totally different. Huge fender flares to accommodate the giant tires, bigger engine compartment to handle the big block. The Cheetah didn't get the press the Cobra did, but it too was far superior to anything the Europeans made. And the Japanese were building crap at the time. Russia? HAHA!! For its time, the American automobile MORE than held its own. Okay, Ford's giving up cars, with GM to follow suit. But who competes with the Ford F series? Or the GM pickups? The Ram sadly is now Fiat, so we can throw that baby out with the bath water. But American iron had nothing of which to be ashamed. It did what it was supposed to, and did it very well.

Felipe Grijo so you say good American V8 and talk about mad max, mate mad max is Australian, the cars are and it’s set here. America didn’t make the only muscle cars, that’s what I see all of you say, it’s so annoying.

fudger03 I think you got wrong what I said. I know that Mad Max is an Australian cop that drives an aussie car, a Ford Falcon XB GT that I love, specially the John Goss model. I know that Knight Rider drives a Holden Monaro, another aussie coupe. I never said that Mad Max was American. I said that the American V8 makes me feel like Mad Max. I know that the V8 is part of the aussie culture too. Take the V8 supercar chapionship for example. By the way, one of the modern V8 that I most like is the HSV Maloo, another aussie V8. I don't know if you got wrong what I said or if you're frustrated with something and want to fight, but I won't fight because a simply comment that I made. And I didn't offended anyone. Maybe a language barrier since I'm Brazilian...

Depends,my 71 Challenger RT 383 ran mid to low 13's and got 26 mpg highway..383 Magnum/727 and 3.23 gears..Car had 76,000 miles back in 1978.. My 68 Charger RT 440 Magnum/727/3.23 got 22 mpg highway and 18 average mixed city/highway,once you floor it like any new car gas mileage goes way down.. Stopping from 60 mph is 107 feet and most old cars when you had power front discs stopped straight and quick under 130 feet,even full size cars...Problem people say they dont stop as they have 4 wheel non power drums thus they think they dont stop ! These old cars handle really good,remember old cars came with 185 75 even 80 series tires thus higher side wall improves road comfort,but hurts handling...With Mopars you can adjust the height of the front suspension in 5 minutes raise or LOWER it to improve handling,it really turns them into slot cars..I live where there are lots of canyon roads and it sticks to the curves at well past the limit ,no not like a Viper but better than the average new car !!

The Monte Carlo was not a muscle car. I was there. Haha

You are correct. What about the 65 Marlin? It was a rarity even back then.

cz1mmt I had brand new 67 Marlin and it was no muscle car: although I drove it like it was😄.

@@ubroberts5541 Robert you are right. It wasn't a "Muscle Car" but more of a luxury car that was sporty when bought as SS with 454. I thought the Monte Carlo was beautiful in 1970.

@@ubroberts5541 my it

Chuck Wagon + Cyclone is my favourite :)

Ya mean the Torino??

That falcon did not come from the factory like shown therefore was NOT a muscle car. & Also the 260 V-8 falcon was an option on the '63 model , still NOT considered a muscle car back in the day.

Right Anthony. Good friend of mine bought a new all black '64 Sprint 260 cid with a 4-spd manual. It held it's own against 327 Chevy's, 390 Big Fords and 383 Mopars. By mid '64, everyone wanted a 289 hipo Mustang, 389 GTO, 426 Mopar or a 421 Catalina. It didn't stand a chance against anything healthier. Another kid had a '68 Falcon with a 302 automatic. Ran pretty strong.

@@robertchristie9434 I believe that. They were light & fast with the V-8. . I had a 62 back in the day. 144 c.i. straight 6. Guys used to swap that 6 out for a 289 or even bigger. The V-8 falcon came out in '63 with the 260. Very nice cars. Wish I still had mine.

but freaking ugly looking in my opinion....

AMX was definitely under rated! Great runners.

you're obscure

Lmao

They'd maybe be obscure to kids... not to anyone over 25 or who knows anything lol

Mannnn shut UP! Nobody wants to read these in every single comments section on these videos. Take your purist ass and get it out of here.

@@griffen9795 exactly to much boomers

this video is a compilations other youtube videos.pretty shitty job.

Where 70 gs buick

And the hood said 383!

I believe the gtx was a model

@@joshgardner7476 Yes the GTX was a Plymouth and they were nice. If I'm not mistaken they looked like the Roadrunner. 68 ish. My friend had a 68 GTX with a pistol grip stick shifter. I will never forget the white knuckle hellride

You got that shit right ~! I had a '67 442 that would scare the crap outta you when it came time to stop~!

How about the 1973-74 Formula Firebird SD-455? That's pretty damn obscure I would say.

@@1983jblack how about a '67 Pontiac Beaumont Cheetah? '65 Malibu SS Z-16?

@@anthonycusinato3969 Ah, the Canadian ones, forgot about those. How about a 1972 Charger Rallye 440 Six-Pack?

@@1983jblack right on about the cheetah brother. But the Z-16 was as American as apple pie. Only 201 units built and the only time the Chevelle got the GENUINE L78 396, exactly the way it came in the same year, one year only corvette. Solid lifter, porcupine head, 425 horse. Not the watered down "L78" 396 that was offered in the '66 and up Chevelle, with the 375 HP rating. Corvette L78 396s are very closely related to L88 427s.

@@1983jblack spot on about the '72 rallye charger though. Good one!

Ditto!

Me too.

I had a had a Black 69 XL 2 ht 429 Cool Boat!

My uncle had a '70 XL fastback. 8-track tape deck. Aqua with a white rocker panel stripe. 390 auto.

Oops! Not a '70, but a '68 XL. The console had an inverted u-shifter. White buckets.

All of those beasts were 'steer now turn later'. I get nostalgia but I also remember wallowing through the corners and the low build quality.

Definitely a roadrunner.

Heap, says 383 on the hood and it even has the road runner in the black stripe. Also no GTX emblem on the grill. Basically a road runner became a GTX if it had a 440 under the hood. Still the car has beautiful lines. Miss those days.

Or a 64 or 65 Riviera! A friend of mine had a 64 with the nailhead 401, and that thing would pass everything except a gas station, even with the 'Dynaflush' automatic.🤣

It only spanked the 'bird 'til the halfway point...ain't no substitute for cubic inches!

Not obscure, I agree. However a lot of these cars aren’t nearly as well known as compared to a Chevelle SS, Camaro, Mustang, GTO, Charger, etc

So it's not just me who noticed that. Displacement was off on the 7 Litre too. Standard engine was 428 with the 427 optional though not many were ordered to my knowledge

You have low expectations on video quality...

🤣👍 Meep Meep!!

The LTD was a 66 although it looks like a 67 front end on i8!!!!!!!

And he didn't even mention the centrifugal blower on the Avanti.

+KRB52 I'm still finding it hard to believe that was a stock race. I wanna know what was going on there! : D

what happened is the 289 kicked the 440s ass yes stock yes they were that fast look up land speed rec for 64

+Kick Still can't believe it! I gotta do some research. : D

All about weight back then, same as today. Physics 101.

Jeremy Thompson how many of those Chrysler 300’s have you ever seen?

They called the big block 2bbl set-up a turnpike or cruising vehicle for highway use. Better economy.

MrMatt, the Javelin became an AMX when they dropped the 390 in it. Same as a Road Runner became a GTX when they dropped a 440 in it. And where did you see a Ford Ranchero in the video?

@Michael Otten.....The Falcon Sprint came with a 164hp 260; the later ones came with a 195hp 289. They never even offered a 4 barrel version, let alone the 271hp HiPo motor that's shown.

Remember old road tests were done different...For one,tires were skinny..Wide Tread were 195 - 70 series bia sply,in 1970 the widest tire was a 215 wide tread 60 series bias ply that not one car hooked...meaning they spun.. Old cars were 11 and 12 second 1/4 mile cars if they had tracks and tires of today.. Yes,headers and a different carburetor and or re jetting of the carburetor gained 75 hp on some cars ! Plus h.p was under rated on most performance engines back then as insurance cost more the more power you had !

Yeah, I caught that too. the 271 HP 289 was in the K-code Mustangs. Not sure where they got the 275 HP rating.

Most people were into things they could do without full overhauls..incl carbs dual exhaust w/headers possibly pulling stock cam and replacing w/racing cam..bottom line make em BREATHE!!!

The K-code HiPo found in Mustangs was first available as an option in the 63 Fairlane 500 but not the Falcon.