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Occam's Razor - rational principles explained 

Jeffrey Kaplan
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@cw-on-yt
@cw-on-yt Год назад
Note: The most common _misuse_ of Occam's Razor is to compare two hypotheses, one of which _doesn't_ adequately explain the observed phenomena, and the other of which _does,_ and to select the first "explanation" over the latter because it's simpler. Simplicity _with equal or better explanatory power_ is the criterion. Looking for mere simplicity _alone_ leaves "nothing exists" as the best "explanation" imaginable!
@SuperMrMuh
@SuperMrMuh Год назад
Very important comment! I still struggle every day trying to explain to fellow economists, that just having a simpler model doesn't make it better...
@joemckibben7757
@joemckibben7757 Год назад
Ira Joe Fisher, TV weatherman on CBS, did this every day.
@davidyoung2990
@davidyoung2990 Год назад
Yep! It has to actually be an explanation
@psijicassassin7166
@psijicassassin7166 Год назад
God defeats and explains everything. He defeats Occam's razor.
@henkmarks8856
@henkmarks8856 Год назад
My thoughts exactly!
@GregoryWonderwheel
@GregoryWonderwheel Год назад
The most impressive thing about Kaplan's videos is that he can write backwards on the glass.
@richardbeasley4898
@richardbeasley4898 Год назад
I think the video has been filmed as a mirror image. The buttons on men's shirts are on the right side (the wearer's right side). The buttons on Jeffrey's shirt appear to be on his left side in the video.
@kentuckysmoose
@kentuckysmoose Год назад
@@richardbeasley4898 aye, but could you imagine how impressive thatd be. If I hadn’t given it more than a second of thought i would have whent with it, but yeah now i cant not see it reversed back to backwards now that you said something
@planetary-rendez-vous
@planetary-rendez-vous Год назад
He has explained it in a video about the lightboard or in a comment.
@creatureoflove
@creatureoflove Год назад
because we know that you can mirror a video, but we do not know that kaplan is a calligraphy savant, occam’s razor has us posit that he did simply mirror the video
@AnimosityIncarnate
@AnimosityIncarnate Год назад
I didn't even realize that's what he was doing, absolute mad man
@planetary-rendez-vous
@planetary-rendez-vous Год назад
I just love how philosophy is talking about the nature of knowledge and this is relevant in every aspect of life.
@user-pm4sp3yr6g
@user-pm4sp3yr6g Год назад
Don't you know what the word philosophy means?
@planetary-rendez-vous
@planetary-rendez-vous Год назад
@@user-pm4sp3yr6g I know. Your point ? Don't be a smartass.
@psdaengr911
@psdaengr911 Год назад
I don't love how philosophy is attempting to replace science.
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 Год назад
@@psdaengr911 What clap trap! Philosophy IS science. It's where scienctific enquiry as we know it came from. What do you think phD means?! All doctors, be them Doctors of medicine, Doctors of music, Doctors of mathematics are all awarded a phD ie they become Doctors of Philosophy! Your lack of research assures me you'll never earn one of those!
@portlandgeek
@portlandgeek 4 года назад
Thank you! All the conspiracy theories floating around the interwebs drove me here. Well, actually a very smart statistician who I've been talking to about these conspiracy theories and propaganda told me to look up Occam's Razor. I'm learning how to do my own research in determining what is true and what is false by searching for the facts myself. Thank you for your in-depth explanation of Occam's Razor. Very informative.
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 4 года назад
Thanks. Sounds like a very worthy quest. Glad I could help!
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 4 года назад
Oh, also, I happen to have a brief discussion of what is mistaken about some flat earth conspiracy thinking in another video of mine: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GAYn5v5E20s.html
@phaedrusgrey4355
@phaedrusgrey4355 3 года назад
I am struck by thought. I myself struggle with the concept of simplicity over complexity. Arguably if this was so the simple addition of Magical thinking would neatly explain something that physical science is tying itself in knots to explain. My current understanding of the iteration process created by ancient philosophers to explain matter was atoms. These were sub divided to sub atomic particles protons neutrons and electrons. Further now we have every flavour including up down and strange quarks.... Ockams razor hasnt finished there..... so now to quantum complexity. Indeed quantum entanglement. Partical wave duality. And back to matter... and anti matter and dark forces and dark matter and... and... and.... My comment is tongue in cheek. In a world of received "logic" Ockams razor might have arguably lost its edge as we dissolve into wibbly wobbly derivations of a truth we have only limited senses to descent. ...... Just a playful thought experiment if you will allow. Unless we would prefer to rely on the unquestionable certainty of LOGIC. Whatever that is.... 🤔
@Dranok1
@Dranok1 Год назад
​@@phaedrusgrey4355 Playful thought processes are how we learn not just about the world we inhabit but also about thought: the philosophy of science, which is now taught in very few universities whereas once it was a necessary central formation of the understanding of science at any degree study... (It's slowly making a comeback, but I fear it will take a long time to recover inadequate importance.) So long as everyone else at the table understands you don't believe in the kooky, mystical, or conspiratorial ideas that naturally come up, then always have fun with such topics -- it commonly results in discovering a more "realistic" explanation for the conspiracy that your conversation has turned up, and if it doesn't it presents you with an interesting field of study. (I was just having a fun discussion about how science can't yet explain how diviners using divining rods can locate deep features under a field where geophysical techniques fail, the topic covering how metal rods might interact with magnetic fields in ways we can't tell which doesn't explain how diviners manage who still use willow, etc. It demonstrated that further study is required, because it is a real scientifically tested phenomenon, but it does not of itself admit to magic, ESP or other mysticism being real.)
@artmarkham3205
@artmarkham3205 Год назад
@@phaedrusgrey4355 I think establishing what is the "simple" explanation isn't always straightforward. A lot of the time, it is nothing more than experience and intuition. Even if you believe in small bugs, who is to say that "witches exist" is a bigger and more outlandish supposition than "these small bugs are also capable of causing disease"? I mean, obviously me - I would say that. But the point is that I'm not sure exactly how I'm quantifying that. It's just obvious. In many cases, it will be less obvious, and often it seems far more rational to hold doubts and admit the possibility of two things than it is to apply the razor to a marginal case.
@michaeleanthonyjr
@michaeleanthonyjr Год назад
My favorite application of this principle is when discussing stories and fiction. Very often I might question why a character didn't make a decision within a story and very often people will try to rationalize it by using the context within the story and adding conjecture for things that the story does not explain. Meanwhile, I often conclude that a character simply did not make a decision because the writer had not thought of it. Both methods of explaining things can work but I think it's often safest to assume that anything that can't be explained within a story using only what the story provides, is something that exists merely as an error in the writing.
@dharmashekhar1047
@dharmashekhar1047 4 года назад
the best presentation on youtube on "occam's razor". from 0.20 to 6.00 minutes. what clarity man ! many thanks. you deserve a standing ovation ! This video is an absolute must for all PhD students 1. every human possess an ontology model deep inside his mind 2. formal education must help every man to digout-clarify his own ontology model 3. else... ! 4. all expenditure on education in terms of money-time-efforts will go waste 5. as man becomes older , he must attempt to simplify his own ontology model as much as possible 6. he must document-publish it before he dies ! 7. he must pass it on to the next generation as legacy.
@waynecassels3607
@waynecassels3607 Год назад
Please dont say, " you know" while explaining something......because.....we don't. I truly enjoy watching this gentleman.
@velimirtopolovacki8956
@velimirtopolovacki8956 Год назад
If I had this type of teacher in high school to teach me a philosophy, I would understand it's principles much earlier in life.
@periklisspanos7185
@periklisspanos7185 Год назад
Why you need this
@velimirtopolovacki8956
@velimirtopolovacki8956 Год назад
@@periklisspanos7185 Every inteligent person should study philosophy. It's always interresting to find different perspectives.
@drwalker9093
@drwalker9093 Год назад
In some anti-edumacation parts of the US today, he would be branded a -witch- warlock, and chased away. Or burned.
@nicklenco7311
@nicklenco7311 Год назад
And poorly.
@psdaengr911
@psdaengr911 Год назад
You're lucky you didn't. You might have grown up believing in a simple universe.
@asma.nooruddin
@asma.nooruddin Год назад
Thank you. Movie 12 Angry Men (1957 and 1997) is the opposite of Occam's razor, it teaches us to do deeper thinking and extract as much evidence as possible, then make a decision (you can apply Occam's razor here). However, any new evidence is subject to change in our decision. This movie shows how to use our analytical abilities to avoid injustice or faulty conclusions. Most people fail to express their opinions for fear of ridicule or rejection. Many things may not be what they appear to be. I looked up the lessons of this movie on Google and it says this, "Theories of group process including: groupthink, group polarization, social loafing, social compensation and social facilitation are exemplified in the movie “Twelve Angry Men.” The impact of group process is potentially damaging and in the context of a jury must be mitigated to ensure fairness and adherence to values."
@oliverniemann2541
@oliverniemann2541 Год назад
I would like to acknowledge that Occam’s razor and twelve angry men don’t contradict, because they both have different aims. 12 angry men is about proving that there is doubt in the case compared to Occam’s razor which is determining what is the most likely case. Most likely the guy murdered the guy in 12 angry men, but it is definitely not 100%. Occam’s razor is a good rule of thumb but it is certainly not a law
@Chooibah
@Chooibah 2 года назад
3 minutes in and I feel this guy is critically under-subbed. Great delivery and presentation. Thanks for the video!
@hanslepoeter5167
@hanslepoeter5167 Год назад
It's important to remember occams rasor is just a tool for selecting the most probable theory which may not be the correct theory.
@notaperson3338
@notaperson3338 Год назад
Agree, it's flaw is that it only accepts previously known concepts as truth, the reality is that the world is evolving and what we thought we knew is no longer our reality or true. The last two and a half years are proof of this.
@Pinza7
@Pinza7 Год назад
It's really refreshing to see the word 'fewer' used in this video. 👍
@gustavo_crivelli
@gustavo_crivelli 4 года назад
Excellent video! And I was really amazed at how easy you can write backwards, it's insane!
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 4 года назад
Thanks. I wish I could take credit for writing backwards, but I write everything forwards and then the image is flipped. It looks like I am a lefty, but I am really a righty.
@FatzoMcUgly
@FatzoMcUgly 4 года назад
@@profjeffreykaplan I initially thought you were writing backwards as well, supposing you were a lefty. Applying Occam's Razor, however, I came to the conclusion that you had simply flipped the footage.
@oodlebay
@oodlebay 4 года назад
@@profjeffreykaplan Zoom allows for a flipped mirror, too. Thank goodness.
@thickdiva816
@thickdiva816 3 года назад
I assumed it was A mirror 😂 he holds the cap in his left hand, with his wedding ring.
@jomocheatham
@jomocheatham 3 года назад
Well at least we can still appreciate whomever is cleaning the transparent surface because IT is spotless.
@WoefulMinion
@WoefulMinion Год назад
I enjoyed the explanation. I enjoyed even more how often he admitted he wasn't sure of something or questioned his examples. It takes intelligence to know what you don't know.
@awol2602
@awol2602 Год назад
Fantastically clear explanations. I would take it that some things Occam's Razor dispenses with of course have to be brought back as evidence and understanding both increase.
@alexbartley3610
@alexbartley3610 3 года назад
One explanation is that this man practiced for extensive periods writing and drawing backwards but a simpler explanation is that the video was flipped in post
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 3 года назад
This.
@elezatafovic5785
@elezatafovic5785 2 года назад
A commentor referenced Occam's Razor in a Facebook post and since I never heard of such (which surprised me at my age) that I took to the internet to try to understand how this related to the details of the post. I am glad I found this video because it was WAY more informative than other definitions or videos on RU-vid. Thank you! I really enjoy your presentation style and am interested in your other videos! Count me in as a new subscriber!
@craigyoung8541
@craigyoung8541 Год назад
Dude, you are so intense it’s humorous. . Your videos are amazing, educational and entertaining.
@mjf8897
@mjf8897 Год назад
I deeply enjoy these videos. they are informative, the host is friendly. it's good vibes.
@Windytune
@Windytune 3 года назад
The last 45 seconds or so, when you bring up tenure and how that can affect rationality 😘👌
@ScareFire
@ScareFire 4 года назад
Really interesting ! Originally came here because of a song named Occam ‘s razor and the rational principle is really intriguing !
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 4 года назад
What's the song? I've never heard of it. But glad you liked the video!
@ScareFire
@ScareFire 4 года назад
@@profjeffreykaplan "Occam's razor" is the name of the song (which is part of a series which its own story) The title seems to refer to the way the main character reflect upon the situation he's facing, without really diving inside the concept. But its this song that brought me to search upon this concept ^^
@mjs3764
@mjs3764 3 года назад
The song was written by Frank Zappa. There are no lyrics. It's more like an extended guitar solo.
@ivybenson
@ivybenson 4 года назад
Thanks. I was puzzled by the word RAZOR.
@GoodShepherdFilms3333
@GoodShepherdFilms3333 3 года назад
Opening statement of presentation opens with a false statement stating Occam's Razor says you should only believe in simple answers. NO. Occam's Razor does not state you should only believe in answers that are simple. Occam's razor states that the answer that makes the least amount of assumptions is MOST OFTEN, the correct answer. NOT ALWAYS.
@JeanMarieMAZALEYRAT
@JeanMarieMAZALEYRAT 2 года назад
And the answer that makes the least amount of assumptions is MOST OFTEN the hardest to get.
@blueckaym
@blueckaym Год назад
From what I know Occam's Razor doesn't ask you to believe (or not) anything. It just says that simpler things are more likely to be true. It doesn't claim that they are ALWAYS true, and thus you shouldn't believe something if there's a simpler alternative. But as with probabilities no matter the % either can be true sometimes. Actually often something is simple and we believe it's true (for example that there are 4 elements that make everything - it's quite simple). But then we discover & learn more details about it, and what happens? Does it become less likely now that we know that more (unique) things are involved in the processes? No, most often learning more things lets us focus on what exactly is important for a given thing (claim, statement, theory etc...). In that process (of learning) we might discover that some of the details we've considered before are not unique or not important. For example (of the 4 elements) we discover that Earth, Water, Air, Fire are equally meaningless. To be more precise (and rational) we discover that they're ultimately made by the same things - elementary particles, and that they mostly differ by the combination of these particles and eventually some different energies (like a flame is just electrons freed from their atoms, because of energy released by some process). Occam's razor should be used (if at all) only in situations where we have very limited time & resources to investigate better, and are trying with minimum effort to get higher chances to get it right. Just because something is more popular doesn't mean it's more important or more universal ;)
@hannuak
@hannuak Год назад
Yes, I always though Occam's razor as kind of nonsense. It's like a theory manufactured for people not willing to see the limits of their own knowledge; eg. manifesting their own Dunning-Kruger's effect filled thinking as somehow valid. An explanation being simple or complex doesn't logically have anything to do with it being true or not. Occam's razor is simply false.
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
it doesn't say that. it's a purely LOGICAL principle that's nothing to do with truth in the slightest. it's exclusively about parsimony in MODELS about the SAME explanation, not different ones. people don't understand this because people in general are no logicians.
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
@@hannuak no, occam's razor is not false. it's simply not what people think it is. the stuff the dude's talking about has nothing to do with occam's razor.
@hannuak
@hannuak Год назад
@@ejb6822 OK, I see... Not really explained to me this way. If that's correct, might make more sense. I guess I've been taught completely wrong.
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
@@hannuak don't worry, most people label someting that's actually a logical impossibility as "occam's razor" - the true concept is nothing anyone would consider to be basic knowledge. you'd need to really dive deep into logistic modelling and theory of complexity to understand the real principle, and all everyday-conversation notions of this concept are just crap.
@RedwoodTheElf
@RedwoodTheElf Год назад
Imagine how long it took this guy to learn how to write backwards so perfectly.
@CalebLeverett
@CalebLeverett 3 года назад
I came here because of the episode of House called Occam’s Razor. I think I’m agnostic because I applied Occam’s Razor to religion, without ever having heard of Occam’s Razor. Thanks for the explanation.
@garrettkarson995
@garrettkarson995 3 года назад
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@joelzeke2822
@joelzeke2822 3 года назад
@Garrett Karson Flixportal :D
@garrettkarson995
@garrettkarson995 3 года назад
@Joel Zeke thanks, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) Appreciate it!!
@joelzeke2822
@joelzeke2822 3 года назад
@Garrett Karson No problem xD
@scienceexplains302
@scienceexplains302 Год назад
@Caleb That is why the phrase “fewest assumptions” is much more useful than “simplest” in Occam’s Razor. “God did it” is very simple grammatically, but the idea of God is a placeholder for several giant assumptions.
@taliesinechoes4513
@taliesinechoes4513 2 года назад
Thanks for the more detailed explanation. I originally heard the term in Carl Sagan's PBS series Cosmos and then again in the movie Contact. P. S. I used it in trying to figure out how you're writing backwards on a glass board. I initially thought you're either a genius who can see this in his head and transfer it to the board for us to be able to read it, or that you're really not left-handed and that you probably just inverted the video image. Because most people are right-handed I assumed the ladder. Yes?
@H8FUL4IM
@H8FUL4IM Год назад
When absolutely no one enlightens you on your theory or quest for truth!
@rayhanmr3588
@rayhanmr3588 Год назад
Ockam's razor would indeed suggest the latter
@MrLipsky
@MrLipsky Год назад
Didn't really asked myself about his supposed left-handedness, but it is quite obvious when you look how his shirt is buttoned down. There is something disturbing in how it looks, because you only see the left part folded over the right part when you look at yourself in the mirror.
@muzzletov
@muzzletov Год назад
@@MrLipsky no, its not. most man dont wear rings, if they do, its either more than one or its a wedding ring. a wedding ring is worn on the left hand. also, he writes with his right hand in a video on a whiteboard. that would be mirrored if it were mirrored. damn, that i had to look this up. i dont even like his videos and his way of presenting is annoying. sorry. dont mean to be rude tho.
@travisryan6545
@travisryan6545 Год назад
Occam's razor would suggest he's writing on a mirror. That seems like the simplest explanation.
@olorin9349
@olorin9349 Год назад
Beautifully explained!!!!!!! Thank you, Jeffrey Kaplan.
@BrentRJones
@BrentRJones Год назад
When I was in first grade, during recess, I asked myself the question, "Why am I here?" I thought about it and decided I was too young to answer. When I was in nursery school I stole a big ring of keys. I buried them near our house. When I tried to dig them up, I could not find them. I did a lot of digging. Then I gave up and walked home. One the way I came up with a BIG THOUGHT: God knows where they are and that I did a bad thing. In college I started following God and Jesus Christ. I have had a good life and now am 72. I have some answers and still many questions. Dr. Kaplan's lectures are good and help me with thinking through things.
@NondescriptMammal
@NondescriptMammal Год назад
Occam's razor was not intended as a guideline for what explanations you should believe, it was intended as a guideline for what explanations are the preferred candidates for further testing.
@thesnowybanana2971
@thesnowybanana2971 Год назад
what's intended and what something is good for are not necessarily the same
@NondescriptMammal
@NondescriptMammal Год назад
@@thesnowybanana2971 I don't disagree with that in general, but in the case of Occam's Razor, it certainly would not be wise to assume that it is a reliable guideline for choosing what is best to believe. Quite often the simplest explanation is not the best or most correct.
@thesnowybanana2971
@thesnowybanana2971 Год назад
@@NondescriptMammal well, remembering that “simplest” does not mean “that which takes least effort or time to say” but instead means “that which, between two or more explanations, derived from the same evidence, makes the least amount of assumptions,” I don’t know of many instances, or any instances really, in which using that as a rule won’t get you to a belief that is of higher likelihood to be correct, or at least is more functional/convenient than the opposing theory.
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
also wrong, since it's a logical impossibility, since competing explanations are equally simple, only with a different distribution of truth values.
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
@@thesnowybanana2971 nope. the amount of assumptions is always equal if explanations compete. that's a direct consequence of tertium non datur during isomorphization.
@chrisgraham2904
@chrisgraham2904 Год назад
That's the best explanation I've heard of Occam's Razor by tying it to ontology.
@sh0eh0rn4
@sh0eh0rn4 Год назад
Occam’s Razor really helps me figure out which excuse I’m going to use to call in sick to work.
@tommysmith5479
@tommysmith5479 Год назад
Thanks you for the video. I have finally, properly understood Occam's Razor. I've never seen any of your videos before but I'll be sure to hang around.
@pokerface7840
@pokerface7840 Год назад
I remember a copy of the Oxford Handbook of Clinical Medicine I had where it explained the idea of Occam's razor. No matter how disparate the symptoms appear, there is usually a single disorder responsible for them all, a kind of parsimonious modelling. But then I remember it went on to say Occam would later die as a result of a combination of diabetes mellitus, congestive heart failure, pneumonia and septicemia 😆 Get it?
@ianmayes8072
@ianmayes8072 Год назад
By positing a multiplicity of causes as the explanation of an event is to work against Occam's Razor, surely, since whilst a single cause of death may result from a combination of more remote causes of a condition, death till result in the final instant from the action of one of these causes, or another single physiological malfunction to which they all contribute in a greater or lesser degree. To ascribe the death of William to a combination of factors is to use a blunted, dulled razor surely. (I speak, by the way, as someone whose ancestors came from the village of Ockham!)🙃
@egay86292
@egay86292 Год назад
i thought he slit his throat? get it?
@johntrish1685
@johntrish1685 3 года назад
I don’t care about Occam’s razor anymore, This dude writing backwards is very impressive
@daniel_75820
@daniel_75820 3 года назад
He most likely flips the video lol
@daniel_75820
@daniel_75820 3 года назад
@Lonny Nance Jnr Himself That skill in itself would require years of practice to get to the level that he is at. Where as flipping a video, in editing software that he already uses as this video is clearly edited to some degree, would be trivial. So therefore the simplest explanation would be that he flips the video. Or something like that idk.
@daniel_75820
@daniel_75820 3 года назад
@Lonny Nance Jnr Himself ahh okay, I just watched it. So it is flipped :)
@lisagraced8112
@lisagraced8112 Год назад
The whole image of him and the clear board is reversed…indicated by the fact that his shirt button placket is on the wrong side for men’s apparel. Excellent video!
@carriep7812
@carriep7812 11 месяцев назад
And that's why when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail! Just discovered your videos - they're awesome, I've watched a few. Thanks for sharing!
@DAVE121063
@DAVE121063 Год назад
I was taught that it is not a principle but a heuristic, there's a big difference in science! A heuristic is a sort of useful tool that works in many cases or a general 'rule of thumb', not an underlying absolute principle. It usually, but not necessarily and certainly not always, leads one to the correct conclusion.
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf Год назад
That’s correct.
@silviopina_111
@silviopina_111 2 года назад
I finally understood Occam's Razor thanks to YOU!!! :-)
@nPcDrone
@nPcDrone Год назад
whether God exists... that sort of thing. "You don't have to worry about any of that." You just simplified my existence! Thank you.
@jakub6877
@jakub6877 3 года назад
Just realized that Jeffrey writes everything from the backside, that is even more difficult than mirror writing! Awesome!
@davechristensen2482
@davechristensen2482 3 года назад
Unless........... He's left handed and they are just showing the film in mirror image......? Okkam's Razor.... I'm a conspiracy guy.......and I question everything, every minute:) P.s. The Earth is Flat and immovable. = most simple explanation for what I can see. 😀👍
@ezzovonachalm9815
@ezzovonachalm9815 Год назад
Hebrew language is written right to left
@zenonorth1193
@zenonorth1193 2 года назад
I enjoyed this a great deal, but also hoped to hear more about the dangers of Occam's Razor - ways in which it can be misapplied or misunderstood. I also think EVERY talk about Occam's Razor should make mention of Agatha Christie's "Murder on the Orient Express". (I realize that sentence will confuse some people.)
@edwardliebert4478
@edwardliebert4478 Год назад
How would "the murder on the orient express" be relevant?
@zenonorth1193
@zenonorth1193 Год назад
@@edwardliebert4478 Since you asked, it's hard not to do this with a spoiler. Simply put, there are 2 possible solutions to the murder: one very simple, one very complex. I'll leave it at that in case you want to read it or watch a movie/tv adaptation.
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu Год назад
aside from older geologists holding on to land bridges the main reason continental drift became adopted in the 60s-70s is that they could explore undersea far better and found the fault line running down the middle of the atlantic that is obviously actively expanding and pushing the continents away from each other. so tech improvements led to a more obvious explanation for continents drifting around over time. that was the biggest clincher.
@musicforatime4863
@musicforatime4863 Год назад
The simplest, and truest explanation is that it's more natural, instinctive, for a lefty to write from right to left, in reverse. Think of Leonardo's notebooks.
@ronnlucas7191
@ronnlucas7191 Год назад
😮Re: my ‘Non Sequitur’ question below. I figured it out. So simple. Duh! … Dr. Kaplan is indeed right handed and he’s probably writing on a sheet of glass or clear plastic in front of him, and this transparent medium is between Jeffrey Kaplan and the camera (as well as us the viewers.) In the editing, the editor horizontally flips the entire presentation. Now the camera and the audience can read all of his writing as if he was writing it backwards from his POV, just for us. This also makes Kaplan look left handed. A small price to pay to present his findings as masterfully as he does. OK, everybody, carry on!
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog Год назад
Yes it's called "lightboard" you can watch his video " How this Lightboard Works"
@Chewbacca55
@Chewbacca55 Год назад
Would this Occam´s Razor be applicable to current AI models in order to get them to give only the most rational answers instead of trying to guess the next word regardless of validity?
@roccov1972
@roccov1972 Год назад
I always thought it was a "razor" because of the decision-making: the edge is so thin that you must fall on one side of the decision or the other. Like the metaphor of "sitting on the fence" in decision-making (that is, one cannot make a decision). A razor-thin fence can not be sat upon. I hadn't thought of it as Kaplan describes, like "shaving things away". Not sure I like his explanation, though. Any one else have a thought on the razor metaphor?
@tonyhoward1735
@tonyhoward1735 Год назад
THANK YOU... i LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TODAY...YAAAAY
@tnekkc
@tnekkc Год назад
Plate tectonics was invented and accepted by kids in my grade school in the 1950s... based on Africa and Brazil looked like they fit together.
@kevinvolf8387
@kevinvolf8387 Год назад
Will Occam's razor help me answer a question i have? I'm not sure whether at 6:00 Jeffrey says "which theory to adopt" or "witch theory, to adopt"?
@Georgeoutofnowhere
@Georgeoutofnowhere 4 года назад
Very well explained... writing things backward was amazing... are you behind a glass board or is it some kind of graphics...?
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 4 года назад
Good question. I just made this short video explaining how the board works: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6_d44bla_GA.html
@mattsuran1270
@mattsuran1270 Год назад
This man has a super power to write backwards.
@witsend236
@witsend236 Год назад
William of Ockham was an English Franciscan friar and theologian from around 1287. Therefore the accredited name Ockham is actually the town where he lived and not his surname. To call it Occam is a misspelling. Although William was accredited with the term - Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem (Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity), he never used it. Instead he was accredited with the term - Non sunt multiplicanda entia sine necessitate (Entities are not to be multiplied without necessity), but this was from a fellow monk John Punch. Its almost certain - indeed evident in contemporary documents - that a number of other people used this term before William was born, so he may not have been the originator. Its been sumised and indeed bastardised in modern time to claim - all things being equal, simpler explanations are generally better than more complex one - but this may not be what was originally meant. In other words the original says (modernised) - you can't add items unless necessary. Is what it translates to. Just saying.
@KenJackson_US
@KenJackson_US Год назад
Hmm. Who named it a *razor?* Are there any other razors?
@suppiluiiuma5769
@suppiluiiuma5769 3 года назад
The very best explanation I have yet found on this topic.
@zoltandrehler6208
@zoltandrehler6208 3 года назад
I do agree.
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
well, since it's nothing but bullshit, that's not a good sign...
@goerizal1
@goerizal1 Год назад
he is just fantastic. i will get it in the second viewing. thanks.
@Nobilangelo
@Nobilangelo Год назад
Occam's razor is used to shave fuzzy logic ;-)
@PatBly-ty1zy
@PatBly-ty1zy Год назад
Captivating presentation.
@robertbeniston
@robertbeniston Год назад
5.30 The problem in your reasoning is: What we don't have in our ontology might be true and learning should be possible. If witches are true then learning and adding to our ontology would be profitable. We don't just go on what we already know, that is the point. 10.40 A lot depends on the evidence. If there was evidence of a land bridge then that would be true. I get your point that you are saying but the examples could be better
@MayBlake_Channel
@MayBlake_Channel Год назад
Are there any critics of Occam's Razor? I'd love to gear from people who think that OR is misused
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
well this thing here isn't occam's razor, it's just bullshit which is logically impossible. occam's razor is about the fewest entities in competing MODELS of the SAME EXPLANATION. competing explanations would always be equally simple, only with a different distribution of truth values. the dude here, as well as most people, is not a logician, so he doesn't understand.
@We_Must_Resist
@We_Must_Resist Год назад
It was certainly misused in the video. To use it as an ontological tool is absurd. Ontology is the study of what is. Occam's Razor is about cutting out superfluity. To say that economy drives truth discovery is nuts.
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
@@We_Must_Resist precisely speaking: superfluity in modelling solutions for the same phenomenon, never different ones.
@robertwalker5991
@robertwalker5991 2 года назад
I had occasion to defend myself in a Tribunal. The charge was that I had failed to comply with a request to provide information to an investigator to whom the task had been outsourced. I then read the statute founding and governing the organization in question. It had been amended to say that investigation and hearing of complaint could not be delegated in whole or in part. Clearly, I say, that an illegal act cannot found a basis to punish me. I listened to the response which lacked cogency as it depended upon changing the meanings of words and restricting the words to be interpreted to a preamble to a list. I was given limited time to respond as the rejoinder. Occam's razor popped into my head so I said it. Afterwards I looked to see if it was a concept raising in law. Increasingly it is. It is very similar to the plain meaning principle.
@JeanMarieMAZALEYRAT
@JeanMarieMAZALEYRAT 2 года назад
Although the Law is neither the most logic nor the most comprehensible thing.
@robertwalker5991
@robertwalker5991 2 года назад
@@JeanMarieMAZALEYRAT it is so vastly overcomplicated that you can arrive at virtually any answer you by cherry picking precedent and principle.
@JeanMarieMAZALEYRAT
@JeanMarieMAZALEYRAT 2 года назад
@@robertwalker5991 That's why It was a good idea to invoque Occam's razor, although it could seem incongruous related to the matter aha!
@turnerthemanc
@turnerthemanc 2 года назад
i applied Occams Razor to you writing backwards. it must be some kind of video effect. Thats far easier than learning to write backwards at the speed you are doing it.
@rattytattyratnett
@rattytattyratnett Год назад
However, Leonardo Da Vinci, was left handed and wrote in mirror writing. So could have written on glass so that the viewer facing him would have perceived the writing as left to right.
@douglasmacari8707
@douglasmacari8707 Год назад
@@rattytattyratnettBut that would have to include the unlikely supposition that Kaplan is every bit the genius that was Leonardo. Tricky.
@FlyBoyGrounded
@FlyBoyGrounded Год назад
So I got from this that Occam's razor tells you 'witch theory' is the right one to believe and that Italy looks like a shoe but Canada sounds like aboot.
@robertferraro236
@robertferraro236 Год назад
I loved the ending. When you are so invested in your belief it is hard to change that belief. Interestingly scientists always talk about Occam's Razor, but they seem to forget it when creating their theories.
@mikecoia8367
@mikecoia8367 3 года назад
"it was a long walk" great content
@asgharmomand2395
@asgharmomand2395 Год назад
Very interesting explanation. Btw, in which program have you edit this video?
@dingdove1
@dingdove1 Год назад
Occam's Razor is good for first order approximations and for quick judgments, but has serious flaws if used as a truth finding method. The first example of the Germ Theory of Disease vs. Witches falls apart if the person making the decision already believes in witches. Quantum physics requires the vast majority of people to accept book-loads of math and science that they do not themselves understand, but that is not an argument against quantum physics. In other words, it can be a decent rule of thumb, but if used as law we would never have moved past "God did it" as an explanation for everything, and simple explanations of things we already assume would always take precedent over things that have been shown to be complex but true. The argument that it requires greater suppositions to overcome things that have been shown to be true is not useful when it comes to most people interpreting science. Following Occam's Razor is a perfectly good reason for religious people to not believe in evolution, for example, since it is highly complex and there is a more simple explanation already in their ontology.
@ejb6822
@ejb6822 Год назад
well most people simply don't understand occam's razor. what can you do.
@user-zu1ix3yq2w
@user-zu1ix3yq2w Год назад
Another commenter criticized his explanations. And i think you're both right. It's about more than occams razor. It's about evidence.
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 Год назад
I think it was the discovery of the mid Atlantic ridge that settled the score in favour of tectonic plate movement. Also they found similar geographic strata on opposite sides of the ocean, like the ones that link northern Scotland to North America.
@vich8810
@vich8810 3 года назад
I almost wanted to criticize this guy but writing and drawing that somewhat detailed like that I can't. There is no way I could do that good of a job.
@danwylie-sears1134
@danwylie-sears1134 Год назад
The plate tectonics explanation works hypothetically, as an example of how Occam's razor could work. But it doesn't fit with how the history of the theory was explained in geology class. There are enough different rocks in enough places that we would expect quite a few weird coincidences to show up, just by sheer numbers. The alignment of mountain ranges, the shape of the continents, and the distribution of fossils all looked as though the continents had once been juxtaposed, with no Atlantic Ocean between them. The shape had been noticed before the Americas were all that well mapped, and by 1912 Alfred Wegener had compiled an impressive amount of evidence. But it wasn't widely believed, because there was no then-imaginable way that it could have happened. At the time, geologists would have had to postulate witches moving the continents by magic, or something equally bizarre and ad-hoc, so they didn't. Then, from the late 1940s through the 1960s, people made various measurements including mapping the depth of the oceans and measuring magnetism in rocks, which showed lots of volcanism at mid-ocean ridges and at some distance beyond ocean trenches. Once there was an explanation for continental motion that didn't involve magic, the theory of plate tectonics was accepted. There wasn't much more of the sort of evidence that Wegener had compiled. The "fixist" explanations didn't need more land bridges. Rather, the land bridges they did need were less plausible when the contours of the sea floor were known, and the mechanism of subduction and oceanic lithosphere creation had come to be explainable without recourse to magic.
@martinze11
@martinze11 Год назад
The elephant in the room is "What is the definition of 'explanation'?"
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 Год назад
Ah ha! You saw that lecture about the Great Flood too! Nice one!!!! (it's a lecture by a geologist given at Harvard - available of RU-vid) EDIT: It's actually not exactly that but about a theory for the great flood made by engineers in the 1960s that was actually valid *if plate tecnotics* is not taken into consideration. It was in that lecture that I learned plate tectonics wasn't widely accepted until the 1970s. And people still think we know everything ...
@billyback1038
@billyback1038 Год назад
I was wondering why the simpler explanation, the flood, wasn't used in this explanation of occams razor. If you believe the Bible, all of the explanations are simpler.
@billyback1038
@billyback1038 Год назад
As a matter of fact, if you believe the Bible 100% then occams razor will most likely take you to the wrong conclusion.
@BluespotKneeClinic
@BluespotKneeClinic Год назад
This guy is good
@hrossaman
@hrossaman Год назад
This video promulgates the erroneous prescription of favoring mere simplicity over explanatory power. Explanatory power is a much much more important principle than simplicity.
@ralphclark
@ralphclark Год назад
Bishop William of Ockham So it should be Ockham’s Razor. Occam is a brand of light bulb
@quailstudios
@quailstudios 3 года назад
Hello Jeffery, Are you still active on your channel here? It's been 5 months since you published a video on your channel.
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 3 года назад
I have been swamped with teaching, research, and parenting responsibilities during the last few months. I will be recording and editing a series of videos this summer, which I will post in the late summer or early fall in anticipation for a course I am teaching Fall 2021.
@quailstudios
@quailstudios 3 года назад
@@profjeffreykaplan Great. I'll subscribe and check back. Thank you for your answer. :)
@CyanAblaze
@CyanAblaze Год назад
the pink marker is so satisfying
@lajoszsommd1526
@lajoszsommd1526 Год назад
In Vitologia, Occam's razor is a classic example of reductionism. While it can be useful in science, it often leads to a reductionist perspective and consequent oversimplification with failure to identify a multidimensional interdependence of multiple relevant factors. This kind of thinking has consequences that we have ample opportunity to observe during history. The overall picture tends to be quite ugly.
@vbcsalinasapologetics1242
@vbcsalinasapologetics1242 Год назад
Understand these things about Occam's razor: 1. According to Walter Kaufman ( _Thales to Ockham_ ), it likely came from Duns Scotus and was repeated often by Ockham. It should be Scotus' Razor. 2. It is a probabilistic principle. The simpler argument is more likely true; it is not definitely true. Consider the explanation that the sun is the wheel of Apollo's chariot -- necessary entities are Apollo, his chariot, and its wheel. Fairly simple. By contrast, the truth requires Hydrogen, Helium, Gravity, nuclear theory (Standard model), nuclear fusion, and radiant heat &c. Not simple. But true. 3. Like all mental tools, Ockham's Razor is useful when applied properly. It is useless when abused.
@alittax
@alittax 2 года назад
So the more things you suppose, the less likely it is that something is true? Just like it's less likely that you'll throw a 6 with a die 6 times in a row vs throwing a 1 once?
@jonbold
@jonbold Год назад
Occam's Razor applied: SR and GR your relation to sidereal time is the inverse of your speed through the medium of the galaxy. O.R. applied: Effective gov't is simple and needs little rationalization.
@jestermoon
@jestermoon Год назад
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@z000ey
@z000ey Год назад
I'd say that Occam's razor wasn't quite clearly explained in the witches vs tiny bugs example, namely Occam's razor doesn't need you to ALREADY HAVE things in your ontology in order to explain an issue, it needs you to be able to ADD the most obvious thing into your ontology that would fit while also solving the issue. In this case, you needn't KNOW about tiny bugs per se (no need for the microscope yet), you could observe the things already in your ontology and make a logical assumption that fits. Per tiny bugs: you KNOW there is Earth, there are mountains, there are rocks, there is gravel, there is sand and there is silt (where you cannot see the particles but you know they are there, else it couldn't behave the way it does). You also know there are whales, elephants, lions, cats, mice, grasshoppers, ants and fleas. From these two sequences it is quite logical that there very well may be TINIER BUGS, even if you can't observe them individually. Greek philosophers observed these sequences and not only presumed the bugs but also the atoms (the point where you cannot get any tinier). Per witches: you know there are people sick that are mean to other people. Those very well might be "cursed" by witches, due to their rudeness, impoliteness, wholesome meanness. Still, you also know there are many, probably much more people, that are very nice and good to other people, and they ALSO get sick. This would tell you they most likely are NOT "cursed" because there is no motive for it. Which of the two would most likely give disease to the latter and probably larger group? If you suppose the tiny bugs (since the witches don't really fit as cause), then you again look at the former (mean) group and also deduce that the bugs fit all very well (adding only tiny invisible bugs to the ontology) while witches would be the 2nd addendum thus you can ignore it. Even if you go the medieval way of thinking that evil witches cursed the good people in order to bring evil and chaos into the world, you again get the problem of already mean people getting sick. Not to mention that witches themselves got sick too and died of various sicknesses during the trials too... Back to something that does not discriminate, the tiny bugs :)
@thefooooob
@thefooooob Год назад
Suggestions hehe 1. give an example where Occam's razor is wrong 2. shouldn't write "Only believe explanations that are simple", it's more "When comparing two explanations, the simpler one is more likely to be correct" or something to that effect.
@KurtVW
@KurtVW Год назад
Are markers that write poorly on glass, and require you to write backwards better than just doing the illustrations in post-processing? My Occam's Razor says do it in post.
@oldstudent2587
@oldstudent2587 Год назад
Question, Jeffrey. I was originally taught that there was a difference between Occam's Razor and the Law of Parsimony, because Occam's Razor said the simplest explanation was the best, and the Law of Parsimony said the simplest explanation was the Truth. I then once had a debate with someone who asserted they were the same. Isn't there a (maybe subtle) difference between the two?
@LMR72
@LMR72 Год назад
There is indeed a difference there. By the way, at some point in this video he says that the simplest explanation is more likely to be true, but that's misstating the principle. The point is to choose the simplest explanation because it makes fewer ad hoc assumptions; you don't know which is "more likely to be true".
@oldstudent2587
@oldstudent2587 Год назад
@@LMR72 Thank you!
@davidblyth5495
@davidblyth5495 Год назад
An excellent explanation!
@geoffhead111
@geoffhead111 3 дня назад
hey, you missed australia! dagnabbit how can i accept these explanations based on incomplete examples?? antarctica doesnt count, no one wants to go to antarctica anyway
@Dragumix
@Dragumix Год назад
Great video! Well explained and so relevant!
@marcoglara2012
@marcoglara2012 10 месяцев назад
He imminently represented Occam’s razor. It’s was NOT. “You should believe explanations that are simple.” No. It was, when presented with competing explanations, you should go with the one that requires less assumptions.
@Dragumix
@Dragumix 10 месяцев назад
@@marcoglara2012 Isn't an explanation which requires less assumptions than another explanation also simpler than the other one?
@marcoglara2012
@marcoglara2012 10 месяцев назад
@@Dragumix Short answer, no . Example of the simplest answer: “God did it” While, the simplest, it requires the grandest assumptions
@hrossaman
@hrossaman Год назад
At the top of the blackboard, he wrote: "Only believe explanations that are simple." This is a colossal misunderstanding of Occam's razor. 😢
@obsoletevalues6209
@obsoletevalues6209 23 дня назад
You clearly did not watch the whole video.
@hrossaman
@hrossaman 23 дня назад
@@obsoletevalues6209 Yuh huh!
@hrossaman
@hrossaman 23 дня назад
​​@@obsoletevalues6209The simplicity of a claim has nothing whatsoever to do with its truth. Scenario: A man falls to his death from a 20 storey high window with a chrome polkadot umbrella Explanation #1: He tripped Explanation #2: He was fighting with a Russian spy and his ferret, and was shoved out the window with the spy's chrome polkadot umbrella. The correct explanation has nothing whatsoever to do with simplicity... Real life is extremely complicated. Occam's Razor only comes into play when comparing explanations with equal explanatory power.
@ronnlucas7191
@ronnlucas7191 Год назад
I’m guessing someone has commented on this before, but how is he writing backwards? If there is some form of screen between us and Dr. Kaplan, then he has to write backwards for us viewers to read it forwards.
@glass_citypixi6675
@glass_citypixi6675 3 года назад
So im trying to take this in but I can't get over this magical board he's writing on lol....is he writing backwards 🤔 or is it the board? Either way I'm impressed
@John-bl3dc
@John-bl3dc 3 года назад
I was wondering about that too. But I imagine he is writing it the normal direction (from his perspective) and then during editing they flip it so that it looks correct to us.
@manuelkarner8746
@manuelkarner8746 3 года назад
@@John-bl3dc yeah it´s just mirrored, also some matth people have this setup, its cool
@johncallahan3753
@johncallahan3753 Год назад
Im going full starbucks pumpkin spice girl here. I literally cant even with this guy. "Only believe explanations that are simple." Then goes directly into the necessity of understanding "Ontology" and witches and germs.
@Evalan321
@Evalan321 3 года назад
I love your explanation of the study of Ontology, however, you missed 3/4 of the continents drawn, albeit mirrored.... awesome vid!
@darrenallen7966
@darrenallen7966 3 года назад
Great video
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 3 года назад
Thanks!
@marcoglara2012
@marcoglara2012 10 месяцев назад
He imminently represented Occam’s razor. It’s was NOT. “You should believe explanations that are simple.” No. It was, when presented with competing explanations, you should go with the one that requires less assumptions.
@RonLWilson
@RonLWilson 4 года назад
Interesting. BTW, I have been working of a way to construct a graphical depiction of an ontology model (vs symbolic approaches such as OWL) and watching this gave me some additional ideas on things I can add to my methodology for doing that.
@profjeffreykaplan
@profjeffreykaplan 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@orwellianreptilian2914
@orwellianreptilian2914 Год назад
@@profjeffreykaplan the last few seconds reminds me of co2 induced warming
@cesarrabak2965
@cesarrabak2965 Год назад
I think there is a gross classification error on saying "Occams's Razor, which is a normative, rational pattern of thought." On the contrary, this "principle" is only a guideline when we still don't have the full picture, and not by any stretch of the use of the word "Logic" can it be considered "The Most Famous Logic Principle". As a matter of fact you'll find this "principle" missing of any serious Logic textbook, handbook for practicioners, etc. Occam's advice is an invitation to we avoid one of the horns of the issue with "pure reasoning" as Kant thought us (doing some anachronist analysis here, but good ideas are sieved by constant revisiting and checking of them), not that "always" it will lead to "correct" answer.
@RDaMyth
@RDaMyth Год назад
A great explanation.
@FreddieVee
@FreddieVee Год назад
I continually debate with people who have a large group of "axioms" to draw from when they claim to use "Occam's Razor". Opinions can be glorified or destroyed by "Alternative Facts".
@testchannelone6616
@testchannelone6616 Год назад
Interesting! Now, can you tell me how you are writing? It looks like you're left-handed and you're writing backwards. How are you doing this?
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