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Oddity Archive: Episode 264 - Ben Vs. The Quasar Great Time Machine 

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Ever wonder what it would’ve been like if Rube Goldberg designed a VCR? Neither did I.
Quick Links:
Ben’s Junk:
1:01 - Intro
4:18 - Front Panel
10:31 - Rear Panel
16:08 - Tape Basics
Documentary:
19:39 - Day 1 (1st Transfer Test)
31:36 - Day 2 (Disassembly & 1st Cleaning)
41:13 - Day 3 (It’s Always Something: Tape Doesn’t Advance/Some Tape Repair)
1:05:51 - Day 4 (Short Session)
1:11:10 - Day 5 (Marathon Session)
1:11:24 - Day 6 (Moldy Tape Duty)
1:20:13 - Day 7 (Basic Recording Test
1:21:26 - Day 8 (Camera Tests)
1:24:05 - Day 9 (Timer Troubles)
1:28:34 - Day 10 (Lamp Timer Substitute)
1:33:05 - Outro
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@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
(SEE VIDEO DESCRIPTION FOR BASIC QUICK LINKS) NOTES: 11:45 - Brain fart #1: The UHF-to-TV terminals are just to pass along your UHF antennas’ signal. I don’t know what I was thinking. 36:09 - Brain fart #2: The text should’ve read “tuner/tumbler”. It took an entire afternoon to render this video and I didn’t wish to redo it for a single word. 46:26 - Regarding the “lubricant” comment: At the time, I thought there might be lubricant somewhere in the wheel assembly. My comment about lubricant on the tape was intended as a separate thought-as in, the lack of lubricant on the tapes might be part of the cause of the machine seizing up. 1:05:35 - Yes, that is what it looks like when you come to the end of a tape. 1:20:30 thru 1:20:50 - The audio level was dropped by about 80%...so it wouldn’t blow out your eardrums and/or speakers and/or headphones. ASSORTED OTHER THOUGHTS Yes, there was a wired remote for this VCR. I have yet to see one anywhere at any price. Yes, one tape arrived mangled in the cassette. Yes, I swore up a storm trying to (alas) splice and rethread it. No, I didn’t record it-the swearing, that is.
@eascec8374
@eascec8374 Год назад
I think I found the recording dates on most (if not all) of the tapes being demonstrated here. Tape #1 featuring one of the Walking Talls was actually KOMO's ABC Friday Night Movie airing of "Walking Tall Part 2" on January 6, 1978. The "Final Chapter" shown on the credits here did not air on television until ABC aired it later that year on October 22, 1978, as part of the network's Sunday Night Movie lineup. The first Walking Tall aired on NBC beforehand that same year. Tape #2 featuring the New York Big Apple, Barney Miller, and Zuma Beach could be recorded from more than one cable system or maybe it was that some guy probably stopped at a hotel in Pennsylvania after visiting New York to catch the movie after reading the New York Daily News. Back then on cable, New York had three Superstations so it could be one of them. As for Zuma, it is definitely original and recorded on NBC on September 27, 1978, as part of NBC's Wednesday Night At The Movies. The NBC station was still unidentified due to two or more markets crunching up each other. Since Barney Miller airs on Thursdays on ABC during the 1978-79 TV season, it could be recorded a little bit later after Zuma, but its airing date was unknown due to its short clip. Tape #3 featuring D*****land and the "Give Me A Dew" commercial is definitely recorded on July 24, 1981, and yes definitely from Seattle. I can tell because Ronald Dodge's body flew back to the United States and was buried that day. The Ronald Dodge story is actually recorded off of KING-TV (Seattle's NBC station), I can tell because of the graphics.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
I'm pretty sure when they said "part 2", they meant the second half of the movie. The final Walking Tall movie ends with Buford Pusser's death--which this one ends with.
@eascec8374
@eascec8374 Год назад
⁠Hmm, that’s odd. So did ABC F’ed up or did they just decided to reschedule it’s original scheduled film? Also to note is that the Final Chapter of Walking Tall aired on ABC twice. Once on October 22, 1978, and again on August 24, 1980 (both part of ABC Sunday Night Movie lineups). I tried finding the film’s Friday run but I cannot find it.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
Possibly. I can confirm it's the last Walking Tall movie--Joe Don Baker was the lead in the first two, Bo Svenson in the last--it's Bo Svenson here. Now, I do have the second half or so of the 8/24/80 airing--the ads from it are on Annex. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VagceKXdaeQ.html As it stands, my best guess is this was a last-minute replacement for something else (maybe a sports event or something got rained out). I've also kicked around the idea of this being a 1981 airing, but ABC plugs an episode of "Soap" from '79--particularly one involving the Benson character, and Robert (Benson) Guillaume was out of the cast by '81. Everything feels like Summer filler about the surviving bits of ephemera on that tape, so I'm pretty confident it was mid-1979.
@eascec8374
@eascec8374 Год назад
Gotcha! I recently found out that the main answer might be an originally-scheduled movie being rescheduled, because every Friday (until 1987) and Sunday (until 1998) ABC airs movies from its main lineup. Sports events on ABC mainly happen on weekends but it can happen weekly-around sometimes. Also to note on the “Shaggy D. A.” tape, it could be either its NBC television premiere (September 24, 1978), or its NBC rerun (March 30, 1980) of course both part of its Wonderful World of D****y anthology series.
@brianhebert6152
@brianhebert6152 Год назад
As someone who grew up in the VHS/DVD era, I'm glad we didn't have to deal with this Rube Goldberg machine of a video format and its associated equipment
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Год назад
how is this like a Rue Golberg machine
@FuzzyMemoriesTV
@FuzzyMemoriesTV Год назад
I hate, hate, HATE this format - so many headaches. I'm glad your video reflected some of this.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
Hopefully tomorrow’s video puts it in a little extra perspective-no less frustrating though.
@ginaweaver4119
@ginaweaver4119 Год назад
The most unbelievable part of this whole thing is somebody actually went through all the trouble of using this thing to record Eegah of all movies, presumably to straight-up watch unironically. People really were hard up for entertainment back then. Amazing work as always, Ben!
@hicknopunk
@hicknopunk Год назад
😂😂
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
That was my recording. Chosen because it was Public Domain and in color.
@ginaweaver4119
@ginaweaver4119 Год назад
Ah. Well I feel sheepish but at least it makes sense now...
@ChrisKewl
@ChrisKewl Год назад
That seemed like a slog to get through, Benny Boy. I can't wait for episode 265 to see what came out of the other tapes and the history lesson.
@mattkeeley7053
@mattkeeley7053 Год назад
Neat video! Just wanted to confirm the Robert Dodge video WAS indeed from KOMO; the anchor was Kathi Goertzen, who was a local Seattle icon; she died about 10 years ago from brain cancer. She joined KOMO in 1980, so that tape would have been about a year into her career there.
@RickinBaltimore
@RickinBaltimore Год назад
An hour and a half of Benny Boy goodness? Count me in!
@racecar_spelled_backwards868
Benny Boy, you are quite the trooper! A week+ in the hellscape of analogue video obscura! I'm not sure whether you are brave or insane (maybe a little of column a and a little of column b), but WOW! Thanks for all the effort on bringing this to light. I can see why this format lost the war to BOTH Betamax and VHS.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
I fear I've fallen more into the "insane" column over the years.
@r66fplaysgames
@r66fplaysgames Год назад
A feature length Oddity Archive episode!
@rarbiart
@rarbiart Год назад
53:34 turn left until the screw falls noticeably into the existing grove and then turn right to tighten it. on selftapping screws it helps to prevent the plastic from stripping out due to retapping during reinstall.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
When possible at least.
@zmbdog
@zmbdog Месяц назад
It seems very fitting that an OddityArchive episode was interrupted by a genuine Emergency Alert!
@PurpKing4377
@PurpKing4377 Год назад
an Archive feature badass
@cpnscarlet
@cpnscarlet Год назад
Some old video tape flags, but this starts with all the banners of obsolescence unfurled and waving!!!
@chrismcgovern1647
@chrismcgovern1647 Год назад
1:05:19 William Schallert seemed to do more voiceovers than most actors were doing
Год назад
Lovely! Thanks. FYI, the female end of the PL-259 is called SO-239.
@warrennotes3575
@warrennotes3575 Год назад
The imitation wood grain is breathtaking.
@Nono-hk3is
@Nono-hk3is Год назад
Nice work. I hooe all the Analog Horror video producer watch your channel. It's great reference for actual analog signal, not to mention a reality check about the difficulties of using consumer level analog technology.
@TheOwenstube
@TheOwenstube Год назад
I’m at 1:25 of this epic and I finally understand the “point” of why Ben is investing so much time restoring and displaying old tech and media. To me, he’s laying bare the hard work of being an archivist and curator, showing how many hours of sweat equal a few minutes of quaint but intriguing old video that we watch on YT. The deck repair, tape cleaning and elaborate connection setups … all of it seems tedious without his dry wit in the background. I’ve watched other old tech mavens and they are either boring or just not informative. Keep it up, Ben. I’ve never Patreoned a creator but I’m starting now. Good luck and keep ‘em rolling.
@awesomeferret
@awesomeferret Год назад
I would argue that it's more of a "what can be" or "more worse case scenario" (if you will). You can still go to thrift stores and find working VCRs for very cheap. That won't be true for much longer though, so I guess it that regard it really is a "things to come" video. Thankfully, you have to have a really crappy or really old VCR for it to give you that much trouble (or maybe I'm just lucky?).
@Capturing-Memories
@Capturing-Memories Год назад
I believe the piece of foam is there to keep the tape inside the reel in case of a tape spillage during fast forward or rewind, If the tape pulls out the reel it risks going around the reel on the outside and causes it to jam.
@ntsecrets
@ntsecrets Год назад
8:40 when I was a kid our first VHS had a “dew” indicator. Which I guess just warned you if there was condensation detected inside.
@custardpie69
@custardpie69 Год назад
I find this kinda stuff oddly relaxing… you have way more patience than me Benny boy
@KarlWitsman
@KarlWitsman Год назад
You are so patient and careful. I would have quit trying after the second tape.
@MrBillmcminn
@MrBillmcminn Год назад
It looks like it will be quite some time before Benny boy takes on the Sanyo V-Cord format
@wowoktv
@wowoktv Год назад
If that's your music in the background, you are incredible. My god.
@richardthefox3412
@richardthefox3412 Год назад
I would have never guessed that the VX had prerecorded titles. Not surprised they were porno tapes (I bet bootleggers knew what a number of geeky early adopters wanted)
@warrennotes3575
@warrennotes3575 Год назад
What did he say? It was about ____ procreating? What goes in the blank? I couldn't understand that part...
@plushifoxed
@plushifoxed Год назад
i had this episode on in the background towards the end and was very startled when someone started saying my name in a low voice... "roxie.... roxie!" had to rewind and check what was going on, lol
@morrisonAV
@morrisonAV Год назад
Thanks for your Herculean efforts with this old format. I felt your pain! BTW, did the labels on the back tell the date of manufacture?
@smartyhall
@smartyhall Год назад
I found an installation manual for an antenna amplifier with similar connections to the three-terminal VHF input, and it appears that the intended use was for when you used 75Ω coax without an additional balun to bring it back to 300Ω. Instead of connecting to the top two terminals, you would connect the center conductor to one of the top two and the second conductor from the coax would go to the 300Ω terminal. I suspect an examination of the bits behind those connections and that switch would reveal the bits needed to do the impedance matching. If you want to find the same manual, it's from Eskc and called amp7_installation.pdf and was found via Google.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Год назад
Imagine the hype of owning a vcr back then. a simple thing today but you could record things with this so it was like time travel allowing you to watch tv from the past amazing .
@michaelcarpenter2498
@michaelcarpenter2498 Год назад
Great episode Ben. On the back I wonder if the stray was from the time whey UHF had to be locked in since the signal could stray away and you would have to fine tune it again. Maybe that is where it is from. I did watch databits videos on these machines to prepare for this bohemoth. I watched this yesterday and going back through it today. I like your approach to this nutty machine and it’s tapes. Good work Ben. Now just breathe.
@chrismcgovern1647
@chrismcgovern1647 Год назад
57:20 My folks always said to keep a clean head at all times
@audiodood
@audiodood Год назад
hell yeah
@OldEqualsCool
@OldEqualsCool Год назад
1:17:28 Makes those 'mystery' 8mm films seem G-rated by comparison, eh? 🤢
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
Weirdly enough, they were still less explicit than the infamous 8mm reels--it was just the basic "plotlines" that were nutty.
@michaelcarpenter2498
@michaelcarpenter2498 Год назад
Well those “movies” were never about plot.
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Год назад
@@OddityArchive we use to catch the obvious subliminals in the film reels in public school.. usually a very busty lady. and this was in educational films. sometimes it was plants or something static.. bowl of fruit I remember.
@davidwiggins6679
@davidwiggins6679 Год назад
Ultra carpet vision!
@annother3350
@annother3350 Год назад
nice intro
@oldradiosnphonographs
@oldradiosnphonographs Год назад
I’ve been waiting around to get one myself some day. Probably one of the very few pieces of video gear I don’t have! Next you should get a V-Cord! 😂 If you wanna know about another scarce tech that needs a full on video is the 3M Revere tape changer deck. I have one sitting around for the past 2 years waiting for an expert restoration! Oh by the way the RCA BW004 camera does work!!
@noneofyourbusiness4616
@noneofyourbusiness4616 Год назад
Benny Sans Cardboard and the Mystery of the Dehumidifier
@DanZero77
@DanZero77 Год назад
How was it to eat words for 10 days? The Keep Brooklyn Clean commercial along with the Wonder Woman snippet was more than likely from WNEW channel 5 in New York. They showed WW episodes in syndication.
@GabrielleCenter2000
@GabrielleCenter2000 Год назад
Happy Oddity Thursday! 📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼
@gerrychaplin5773
@gerrychaplin5773 Год назад
"it's 29 days since the creatures arrived..."
@michaeldeloatch7461
@michaeldeloatch7461 Год назад
One suggestion: amend the title to read "The GREAT Ben vs. Quasar Time Machine"
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM Год назад
one thing I wonder, where does the dehumidifer water go?
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Год назад
I haven't seen one since 1980 my Aunt's boyfriend had one of these and an intellivision
@jessecoffey4737
@jessecoffey4737 Год назад
That KOMO tape is actually of _Walking Tall Part 2_ (based on the MCMLXXV roman numerals seen at the start of the excerpted footage) and aired October 14, 1977, as the network feed still had the 5 khz telco audio; the audio on network broadcasts was upgraded to 15 khz in February 1978.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
You are correct about the movie. Though, for the life of me, I don’t remember Part 2 ending with Buford Pusser’s death. However, this had to have aired in ‘79-there’s a promo for a rerun of an episode of “Soap” (not excerpted here) which first aired in 1979. I think this was a last-second replacement for something else (or substitute for something KOMO didn’t wish to air).
@jessecoffey4737
@jessecoffey4737 Год назад
@@OddityArchive Or it may have been a slight tape-over that occurred for a few seconds.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
There was one complete ad break-which is where the Soap promo occurs. CORRECTION: The Soap episode plugged is from January of 1978 (that's what I get from running on memories of reruns), so no earlier than that. They make no mention of it being a new episode.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
UPDATE: Upon further investigation, I think that tape might be from Friday, January 6, 1978--assuming the "Soap" promo was for a new episode and not a rerun.
@TheMediaHoarder
@TheMediaHoarder Год назад
Absolutely hate it when they cut out all the commercials and then leave several minutes of BLANK tape at the end! It’s gotten to the point now whenever I see a commercial get cut, I say “fuck you” and hope whoever out there made that cut hears me.
@ChrisTombstone82
@ChrisTombstone82 11 месяцев назад
@47:56 I cannot believe what I'm seeing. I had no idea that Ben was a drinker. And he's drinking the hard hard liquor over there. That everclear put some extra hair on your nuts. My goodness Ben what do you sit around with all your old nerd tech and drink?
@feltongailey8987
@feltongailey8987 11 месяцев назад
Ahhh yes, back when 12% interest on a new car was a screaming deal.
@bobsbits5357
@bobsbits5357 Год назад
hi some go on have big the betacam sp video decks were in the 80's people for got how big they used to be in the ok we never had this model anywhere in the uk have a big u-matic low band i still have alot of working beta decks
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Год назад
@37:30 the talking dancing weiner finger makes an appearance !!!
@SaturnTubes
@SaturnTubes Год назад
I can’t hear that music you made and not think of vintage sea world
@ViegasSilva
@ViegasSilva Год назад
Archive those Japanese tapes damn it!
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
I tried. Both tapes are, well, too hot for YT. The second tape went sticky and was clogging the VCR head every two minutes or so. Given how raw the tape stock is, I'm a bit hesitant to bake it. Some of the footage appears in next week's video (too much junk in the signal to be discernible).
@onesgarbageisonesgold1638
@onesgarbageisonesgold1638 Год назад
Can I take a guess tht that’s a “dokorder” R2R tape machine in the upper right hand corner of the beginning of the video.. yes?
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
Teac.
@onesgarbageisonesgold1638
@onesgarbageisonesgold1638 Год назад
@@OddityArchive darn…😔
@tyx823
@tyx823 Год назад
you might wanna use another device that has TBC like your jvc vcr or a dvd recorder or a standalone TBC device
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
You'll see it more next week, but each tape reacts differently. I have an Archive Annex posting scheduled for this Summer that's a hodgepodge of Frame Sync or standalone TBC or a pure, straight signal. I've found that combining my Frame Sync Generator (w/TBC built-in--no way to separate the two) and standalone TBC just creates more problems. These VX tapes seem to retain every bit of interference that was broadcast.
@mightyfilm
@mightyfilm Год назад
Well, with those Japanese tapes, at least you didn't get one of their obnoxious panel of comedians reacting to things shows, of which I am told is basically 75% of Japanese television. At best you'd get maybe a rare old anime or some music program. Though even with a bad panel show there'd be rare ads if they weren't cut out.
@mjrleaguesweetie
@mjrleaguesweetie Год назад
big chunky buttons
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
Downright chonky.
@dorourke105
@dorourke105 Год назад
wish it were an actual time machine
@sf-dn8rh
@sf-dn8rh Год назад
Eppps no box...
@sf-dn8rh
@sf-dn8rh Год назад
Fragillie, it must be italian...
@marxthedude
@marxthedude Год назад
This was a great watch Ben! Well done, what results were compromised in testing were made up for in an interesting video. Also, now it qualifies, I’d like to nominate the theme from “The Shaggy D.A.” as a new ear worm. Never thought Dean Jones could be considered one of the first rappers!!? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xecStlN7f0w.html
@spacemissing
@spacemissing Год назад
Even though I skipped through significant portions of this video it still seems incredibly slow-moving and Too Long.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
As promised, here's the standard OA on it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LwovFMR8GCw.html
@matthewbaduria
@matthewbaduria Год назад
I grew up in the VHS/DVD era,it looks to me is in bad shape.it's very much broken,it wouldn't play great at all.and the audio isn't all that great.
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
I'd love to replace the head on that thing for one. There was a parts unit on fleabay last week, but it would've been north of $200 after shipping--not really worth it to steal two small pieces from it.
@tremorist
@tremorist Год назад
The video is way too long. The shaky camera gives me motion sickness.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 Год назад
38:10 I wish you Yanks would learn to spell words correctly! Not "Mold" but *"Mould!"*
@OddityArchive
@OddityArchive Год назад
I reserve the "mould" tag for non-American tapes.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 Год назад
@@OddityArchive It matters not where the tapes come from, the *universally correct* spelling is *"Mould"!*
@OldEqualsCool
@OldEqualsCool Год назад
@@neilforbes416 Not in America and the Philippines!
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 Год назад
@@OldEqualsCool Because the Philippines' use of English has been *corrupted* by America! America is like the two-year-old toddler that claims to know more and better than his/her *grandparents!*
@awesomeferret
@awesomeferret Год назад
With all due respect, it really is absurd to claim that spellings matter in the way you suggested, since every country has different languages spoken and with different accents. It would actually be really weird if every nation that spoke English evolved it in the same way. And of course, the final nail: no country that speaks English has ever spelled or pronounced words the same for more than a few hundred years. You know how dramatically the English language has evolved simply by historical books or documents that were written only 500 years ago. Even documents such as the Declaration of independence contain very obvious examples of this linguistical evolution. And yes, I realize it's probably a joke. ☺
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