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So you haven't read Oedipus the King by Sophocles? Well, get your tragedy mask ready as we tell you about this masterpiece that has influenced the structure of western drama for millennia! Ranking as the top 10 hottest most amazing tragedies by our boi the late and great Aristotle!
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@extrahistory
@extrahistory 2 года назад
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@Jon_the_Wizard
@Jon_the_Wizard 2 года назад
At what point does Tiresias say to Oedipus, “dude, if you can’t see where this is going, you’re blinder than I am.”
@fullmoontales1749
@fullmoontales1749 2 года назад
Overly Sarcastic Productions, is that you?
@kereminde
@kereminde 2 года назад
@@fullmoontales1749 It's a variation: "Not-Nearly-Sarcastic-Enough Productions".
@stevemc01
@stevemc01 2 года назад
When Tiresias senses Oedipus killed his dad like "stupid peasant. Begone." Tiresias: "oh bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh"
@marogdaki
@marogdaki 2 года назад
to be fair, Tiresias does say that! Also, the whole Tiresias-Oedipus dialogue is filled with eye-sight/seeing-the-truth wordplay. (And that's how Aristotele coins the term "tragic irony", as a reference to something the audience knows but the protagonist does not)
@fullmoontales1749
@fullmoontales1749 2 года назад
The one thing I don't quite understand is, if your kingdom is suffering, isn't it your duty to find out why? Even if the answer is...that one? Or should Oedipus have just put up with the curse to preserve his own sanity?
@GreasusGoldtooth
@GreasusGoldtooth 2 года назад
If you think about it, it's kind of unfair that Oedipus has a complex named after him since he didn't know what he was doing.
@osurpless
@osurpless 2 года назад
I blame Freud. When it comes to puritanical complexes, that (or Victorianism) is a safe bet…
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 2 года назад
Right?! Right?! It's stupid.
@edcrichton9457
@edcrichton9457 2 года назад
He was using a familiar term for the audience he expected to read his work. For the late 19th century early 20th century audience he could expect to have some basic knowledge of classic literature. That was an era when politicians still quoted ancient authors like Horace in parliamentary speeches.
@andromeda331
@andromeda331 2 года назад
Yeah, it's of a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 2 года назад
Ought to have called it the Oedipus Simple.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 2 года назад
Oedipus' parents attempt to avoid fate, arranging for TY yeir son's death without making sure he actually died. Odious attempts to avoid fate by leaving home, leading him back to his bio parents. The shepherd: "Did I do that?"
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 2 года назад
It's a very great shame so many of Sophocles' plays were lost, considering every surviving one we have manages to still be played today. By accounts he won 80% of the competitions he entered and never got worse than second, though it's no great surprise the best work we have of his wasn't a winner - the most thematically-dense works often don't show their hand at first performance and take some digging to see how far down they go. He invented richer characters than was the standard before before and did so to enable more complete character arcs instead of standard progressions, and may have innovated having a third character on-stage to enable this by giving much more complex character interactions, though Themistius says that Aeschylus, his only real professional competition, was the first.
@mesektet5776
@mesektet5776 2 года назад
From the Bible to the popular song, there’s one name that we move right along, of all the things we hail as good, the most sublime is motherhood. There was once a fellow it seems, who carried this idea to extremes, he loved his mother and she loved him, and yet his story is rather grim...
@zemm69
@zemm69 2 года назад
Tom Lehrer!
@theq4602
@theq4602 2 года назад
Glad to see this song wasn't forgotten
@notdancooper923
@notdancooper923 2 года назад
Yes he loved his mother like no other, his daughter was his sister and his son was his brother! One thing on which you can depend is - HE SURE KNEW WHO A BOY'S BEST FRIEND IS
@mesektet5776
@mesektet5776 2 года назад
@@notdancooper923 When he saw what he had done, he tore his eyes out - one by one; A tragic end to a noble son who *loved* his mother.
@fullmoontales1749
@fullmoontales1749 2 года назад
Apparently it's also wrong to love your big brother (joking, I've read 1984)
@PaulGAckerman
@PaulGAckerman 2 года назад
The Law & Order sound just made me howl at work. Thank goodness I'm working from home or Is have some 'splaining to do with HR.
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 2 года назад
It cracked me up too! I only get to see the videos at the end of production so I didn't see it coming!
@alicerivierre
@alicerivierre 2 года назад
LOL, same! Extra Credits, you are hilarious!
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 2 года назад
"You are Oedipus, King of Thebes!" Can I be literally anyone else, please?
@SarahExpereinceRequiem
@SarahExpereinceRequiem 2 года назад
There once lived a man named Oedipus Rex You may have heard about his odd complex His name appears in Freud's index 'Cause he loved his mother ♫
@DanteGrey
@DanteGrey 2 года назад
He really loved his motherrrrrr~
@MovieFan1912
@MovieFan1912 Год назад
I see you like that Tom Lehrer song too.
@blaster915
@blaster915 2 года назад
Definitely miss Extra Mythology 🥺😢
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 2 года назад
We do too!
@blaster915
@blaster915 2 года назад
@@extrahistory there must be so many more you can cover! More legends from Japan, or tellings from Australia?
@A_Vicious_T-Rex
@A_Vicious_T-Rex 2 года назад
I am convinced that Oedipus was the first person to wear socks and sandals. Because how else could his mother/wife miss his mangled feet and not ask about them.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 2 года назад
That lovely little detail was glossed over here.
@prestonjones1653
@prestonjones1653 Год назад
Jewish folklore has a story about a demon who overthrew and impersonated Solomon for a month who also went around wearing socks, even when sleeping. So whether it was Oedipus or Asmodeus/Solomon we'll need to try and verify the dates of the stories to be totally sure.
@krealyesitisbeta5642
@krealyesitisbeta5642 2 года назад
There was an Oedipus joke in the Mr. Peabody movie and I’ll never forget.
@osurpless
@osurpless 2 года назад
There’s a quick one in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure after Ted and the couch scene. Missy isn’t Bill’s mother either, so I guess it was in there only because a writer thought it was clever?
@stephenbaker9645
@stephenbaker9645 2 года назад
There was one short reference in one of Mel Brooks' movies History of the World Part One.
@MovieFan1912
@MovieFan1912 Год назад
There’s also mention of Oedipus by a man who puts the glad in gladiator. “Man, I thought I had problems!”
@brockmckelvey7327
@brockmckelvey7327 2 года назад
"Oedipus' mom has got it going on..." Also, what was the play that got 1st place?
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 2 года назад
That's the tragedy. We don't know. There are no records of it surviving...
@ThatGUY666666
@ThatGUY666666 2 года назад
So I take we have all learned a very valuable lesson here today, namely, if you ever hear about an oracle you immediately turn and run (do not walk) in the opposite direction. For the life of me I do not think I have heard of anybody who spoke with an oracle and it did not immediately spiral into tragedy.
@ceebee9195
@ceebee9195 2 года назад
“There once was a man named Oedipus Rex, You may have heard about his odd complex, His name appears in Freud’s index, Because he loved his mother.” Love some Tom Lehrer.
@Cloudedmemory
@Cloudedmemory 2 года назад
Why did I just sing this to the Sea Shanty tune...
@themysterfox8695
@themysterfox8695 2 года назад
i just noticed the name of the coffee shop,and now i GOTTA go back to earlier episodes to see if they change
@paintbrushjewel
@paintbrushjewel 9 месяцев назад
You could say “one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it”. - a very wise tortoise
@francissreckofabian01
@francissreckofabian01 2 года назад
We did this for high school. In fact I we also did all the Theban plays. I had Antigone for English, Ancient History AND French. Talk about being handed success on a platter. Shame I failed all three subjects. Guess I dropped the platter, tripped over it and landed head first in the mud. And then the platter landed on my head.
@AvalonDreamz
@AvalonDreamz 2 года назад
It is amazing you really make this easy learning and listening to these stories that some may find tedious and have never got to read or didn't understand because...well public schools don't seem to want to bother much today and even though I have read it my children have not yet and they love listening to this channel as well because of the learning style. Very thankful for that guys!
@20332424
@20332424 2 года назад
Cup of JoCasta is a classical level of pun
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 2 года назад
@MovieFan1912
@MovieFan1912 Год назад
Now that’s smart.
@charlesdeleo4608
@charlesdeleo4608 2 года назад
Honestly, I feel that this would be more appropriate as an episode of Extra Mythology, seeing as Oedipus was a figure from the age of heroes, and a peer or Herakles.
@VampireSquirrel
@VampireSquirrel 2 года назад
If Oedipus placed second, what placed first?
@zilloguy42
@zilloguy42 2 года назад
I’d love to see some Euripides on this channel . One of the most influential Greek writers I remember from my college days.
@The-Plaguefellow
@The-Plaguefellow 2 года назад
0:18 "With a beautiful wife..." For just a second, I thought y'all were gonna launch into a Talking Heads reference with how the cadence of that sentence worked out.
@sofiagarcia1694
@sofiagarcia1694 Год назад
"From the Bible to the popular song, There's one theme that we find right along. Of all ideals they hail as good, The most sublime is motherhood-
@MovieFan1912
@MovieFan1912 Год назад
🎶There was a man, though, who it seems, once carried this ideal to extremes. He loved his mother and she loved him, and yet his story…is rather grim.🎶
@cavc94
@cavc94 Год назад
This play is so good that even if you know the plot twist beforehand still thrills you.
@osurpless
@osurpless 2 года назад
When it comes to the "2nd place" absurdity, Stardom has one of my favorite quotes to give insight: "At the very first Nobel Prize for Literature, War and Peace came in 2nd. The first place went to a diminutive French poet named Sully Prudhomme. Now how many people have heard of Tolstoy? (all hands raise) Now how many people have heard of Sully Prudhomme? (fewer hands). Don't trust the experts. They don't know anything..." Too bad singular instances like this can be so readily misused by anti-intellectuals to support certain ex-Presidents as well as to automatically discount sources based on authority and the peer edited process...
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 2 года назад
Even Charlie Chaplin came 2nd in a Charlie Chaplin look-a-like contest! ;)
@aidanconnor2274
@aidanconnor2274 2 года назад
Elvis also lost his own Look-Alike challenge.
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 2 года назад
One of the problems with judging recent work is that it hasn't had time to sit and be seen. The very best of media, especially performed work like theatre scripts, is because it is immensely rich in thematic weight, offers great scope for multiple readings and interpretations, and manages to connect to something not just evocative of the milieu in which it was written but the human experience more broadly. It takes time and the work of many critics to properly mine thematic depth, it takes more time and many attempts to find out if something is open for meaningful reworking, and it takes by definition at least one generational cycle to find out if a work touches just the zeitgeist or something deeper. Having to judge recent works for 'classic' status requires critics to judge the equivalent of the entire play by its first act. The Nobel for Literature doesn't apply to this so much, but it has the even harder problem of being a multi-media competition. Having to judge what is best across multiple genres is maddening. Hard enough deciding what the best play or poem or novel is, let alone deciding if the best poem is better than the best novel.
@RobinTheBot
@RobinTheBot 2 года назад
The problem is not experts, it is ranking... Only time reveals greatness. It cannot be guessed, even if experts have better odds.
@herbertgearing1702
@herbertgearing1702 2 года назад
I have frequently used the main characters name in situations where I needed to avoid colorful language. I assumed many people would not get the reference and those who do generally enter into fascinating conversations afterwards.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 2 года назад
I read this in summarized form in Edith Hamilton's book, Mythology. The book includes not only greek and roman myths but also Norse mythology.
@jayisabluebird
@jayisabluebird Год назад
Honestly I recommend reading this one. I read it in college and even knowing what happened it compelled me and made me reflect on a lot
@danielroy8232
@danielroy8232 Год назад
A minor correction to this video: at 4:04 the narrator claims that the location of Laius's death was prophecised for a specific location. In the translation and performance I know, the location of his death was not in the prophecy.
@RocketHarry865
@RocketHarry865 Год назад
And this could have been avoided if Oedipus kept his cool decided to ask is adoptive parents from Cornith about the truth of his origins following hearing the accusations of not being their true born son, instead of going to the oracle of Delphi
@allye4228
@allye4228 8 месяцев назад
In a version I heard, Oedipus asked his adopted father about it but he told Oedipus to ignore it.
@Lomecron
@Lomecron 2 года назад
I'm sorry. I'm going to need the complete intertextual analysis of Oedipus the King's juxtaposition of Paddington 2.
@Its_just_Avi
@Its_just_Avi 2 года назад
😊😊😊😀📚If possible,could you please also make a series to give a brief introduction or overview of non-fiction and self-help books📚📚📚
@whatgamesweplay
@whatgamesweplay 2 года назад
we had him in highschool, but I think the teacher skipped the more difficult parts
@phantom_matchstick3809
@phantom_matchstick3809 2 года назад
Can you do the giver, I read it a while ago and I want people to see this interesting book
@joshuawells835
@joshuawells835 2 года назад
I remember reading this sophomore year of high school. Now, I have graduated from college with a minor in Classics (though with more of an interest in the Romans than the Greeks)
@ThatFanBoyGuy
@ThatFanBoyGuy 2 года назад
Good video! Can't wait to hear about the sequel Antigone!
@kaltaron1284
@kaltaron1284 2 года назад
What play got first place? So the trouble starts because a ruler has a son instead of a daughter? Now where have I heard that one before?
@kdot4068
@kdot4068 2 года назад
Troll: EY! I just BOINKED yer MUM! Oedipus: Yeh, same.
@mickerzmouse
@mickerzmouse 2 года назад
I do miss extra mythology! it was so good!
@adelinemckinnon7416
@adelinemckinnon7416 Месяц назад
I’m a freshmen in high school and was assigned to read this over the summer and man am I confused 😭
@dr.anastasiabaratheon1146
@dr.anastasiabaratheon1146 2 года назад
Just gonna pop in here early
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 2 года назад
Thanks for stopping by!
@comlitbeta7532
@comlitbeta7532 2 года назад
...how ?
@opsauras1507
@opsauras1507 2 года назад
@@comlitbeta7532 patreon
@BrazenBard
@BrazenBard 2 года назад
I still say the "Jocasta Residential Complex for Widows and Fatherless Children" would be the best wrong social initiative...
@ThatFreakingGinger
@ThatFreakingGinger 2 года назад
Do "An Inspector Calls"
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland Год назад
We can still see the remains of Classical Greek Tragedy in soap operas' season finales
@RichardLightburn
@RichardLightburn 2 года назад
I very much enjoy Sophocles and O. the K., but I'm suspicious of Aristotle. A. never got anything right, including drama. Of the handful of Greek plays that we still have, his theory of tragedy fits only one really well, a few others somewhat, and most of the others not at all. And then there's the fact that of the dozen or so ancient drama writers, we have only three with surviving plays and of the hundreds of plays that even these three wrote, only 5% survive. Given these stats, I think A.'s claim for a theory of tragedy is pretty flimsy. If he's still influential, I think that's a medieval hangover.
@kingnaga619
@kingnaga619 2 года назад
Can we ACTUALLY get Extra Mythology? You teasing me, EC
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 2 года назад
What ever you think about Oedipus you have to admit he loved his mother.
@Stejers
@Stejers 2 года назад
Its really weird that on the same day this video came out my history teacher told us to read oedipus king
@Stejers
@Stejers 2 года назад
now that I am rewatching this video got this question, was it on purpose the text in the thumbnail? cause oedipus complex is what is called people who romanticaly love their mother. I dunno if they wanted to do a joke with that but.. idk i just find it weird
@danielroy8232
@danielroy8232 Год назад
it's cool that the masks in this video are clearly inspired by the 1954 Tyrone Guthrie production.
@postapocalypticnewsradio
@postapocalypticnewsradio 2 года назад
PANR has tuned in.
@myyoutubeaccount2780
@myyoutubeaccount2780 2 года назад
I'm super curious who Oedipus lost too, Do we know?
@t.c.oneill4576
@t.c.oneill4576 2 года назад
dang, now this is how you do it!
@paullenoue8173
@paullenoue8173 2 года назад
Do we know who won first place?
@Craby-YT
@Craby-YT 2 года назад
I had to read this during high school
@joeblaster8770
@joeblaster8770 2 года назад
This has a big impact on the Dune saga.
@Palladiosios
@Palladiosios 2 года назад
I am reading it right now so see you in two weeks when I’m finished
@carrierogers874
@carrierogers874 2 года назад
But who came in first?! You have to tell us who came in first!
@joeshabado1431
@joeshabado1431 2 года назад
Do we know what tragedy beat Oedipus?
@espio87
@espio87 2 года назад
The version I read of the play claimed that Oedipus gouged his eyes because in the end we're always blind to Fate.
@knifedakiko
@knifedakiko 2 года назад
The odd moment where you're on vacation and you're standing in the same spot as a RU-vid icon just uploaded
@geologist1235
@geologist1235 2 года назад
The Hashtags for this video are wrong
@Ryu_D
@Ryu_D 2 года назад
Thank you for the video.
@asgardironman8867
@asgardironman8867 Год назад
It was like ancient rap battling
@franklinspanklin8539
@franklinspanklin8539 2 года назад
Love your videos, please more more more!!!!
@GraceHuang-y3d
@GraceHuang-y3d 8 месяцев назад
Y'all should do Antigone. Gotta love 7th grade trauma😂
@emperorjustinianIII4403
@emperorjustinianIII4403 2 года назад
0:35, which play got 1st place then? Or do we not know?
@RKevinDoyle
@RKevinDoyle 2 года назад
We do not know the name of the play but it was written by the playwright Aesychlus' nephew, Philocles.
@ad0re.h3r
@ad0re.h3r 2 года назад
this would have been great 3 weeks ago 😭
@excellent808
@excellent808 2 года назад
I had to read oedipus and antigone for highschool
@clintsherman190
@clintsherman190 2 года назад
Digging that you went with the "tragedy masks" from the Guthrie production... "RRAAAWRRRR! RRAAAWRRR! RRAAAWRRRR!!!!"
@ericbarlow6772
@ericbarlow6772 2 года назад
I haven’t read Oedipus but I have read Antigone.
@jameswolf133
@jameswolf133 2 года назад
No Tom Lehrer references? Shame!
@atrijaghosh7418
@atrijaghosh7418 2 года назад
Idk if someone from West Bengal, India is watching it..but if you're watching it please give a listen to Sambhu Mitra's version of Raja Oedipus (King Oedipus!)
@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712
@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712 2 года назад
Didn’t know an Alolan trial captain write such a literature.
@ng855
@ng855 2 года назад
Always nice to know my tragedies pale in comparison to oedipus the king
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 2 года назад
There was a pretty good lockdown performance of this with Oscar Isaac
@lemontiger6557
@lemontiger6557 2 года назад
Yo can you do history about the tell tale heart?
@baliyae
@baliyae 2 года назад
I read the sequel, “Antigone,” in high school.
@JamesTM
@JamesTM 10 месяцев назад
This got a lot less confusing when I realized it was King of "Thebes", not "Thieves". 😅
@ekamandalaputra5517
@ekamandalaputra5517 9 месяцев назад
I'm not English native speaker, are those words prounonce the same?
@JamesTM
@JamesTM 9 месяцев назад
@@ekamandalaputra5517 No, not quite. The 'b' and the 'v' are pronounced a little differently.
@ekamandalaputra5517
@ekamandalaputra5517 9 месяцев назад
@@JamesTM how?
@vazak11
@vazak11 Год назад
Good stuff!
@jamespusey7186
@jamespusey7186 Год назад
I would so watch "so you haven't watched Paddington 2"
@Quroe_
@Quroe_ 2 года назад
Wait, Satyr Play... Saturday... Is there a root-word connection there?
@noahjohnson935
@noahjohnson935 2 года назад
have you considered 1984 for one of these episodes?
@josuecallejero9864
@josuecallejero9864 2 года назад
Where's Kreon in this summary?
@devinda_me
@devinda_me 2 года назад
if you miss Extra mythology, checkout Overly Sarcastic Productions
@kapitan762x54R
@kapitan762x54R 2 года назад
No I saw this. We talked about it in school.
@Chad_Milk
@Chad_Milk 2 года назад
I like the artstyle
@bobalinx8762
@bobalinx8762 Год назад
I’ve only read Antigone.
@happymartin6778
@happymartin6778 2 года назад
I see you didn't want to cover the elephant in the room :v
@rhiannonbrewer5365
@rhiannonbrewer5365 8 месяцев назад
Damn so Tyrannosaurus rex means tyrant king essentially? (I’m probably missing a big bit of the meaning but I know king is apart of it! (: )
@generalgreninjaandknockout4182
@generalgreninjaandknockout4182 2 года назад
Do three body problem please
@garrymoloney9570
@garrymoloney9570 2 года назад
I got the story from Steven Fry’s book on Greek heroes is that close enough?
@jamesanthony5874
@jamesanthony5874 2 года назад
For about 20 seconds there I thought you said "You were the King of Thieves"... then I remembered what story you're talking about and realized you almost certainly said Thebes .lol.
@jogelvie
@jogelvie Год назад
Isn't it Oedipus, Oedipus Tyranus then Antigone
@paulandreigillesania5359
@paulandreigillesania5359 2 года назад
"YOU'RE Oedipus the King." Hey, no
@RuthGoff-o7m
@RuthGoff-o7m 15 дней назад
VonRueden Underpass
@TimFresco
@TimFresco Год назад
I have a latin essay for tomorrow about this story kek
@norsktysker
@norsktysker 2 года назад
"Your mom!" - The Oracle of Delphi to Oedipus
@bdulrahim.
@bdulrahim. 8 месяцев назад
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