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Here we take a look at MESHTASTIC, An Open Source hiking, pilot, skiing and secure GPS mesh communicator using LORA
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Комментарии : 109   
@Meshtastic
@Meshtastic 2 года назад
Mr Minds! Your production value is amazing. Thanks for spreading the good word!
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
You’re welcome 🙏
@vibys1
@vibys1 2 года назад
Its been interesting range testing for the last year with these with family. Hopefully more devs and users join with the recent videos from hams.
@Number4lead
@Number4lead Год назад
How did it go? I was planning to set one up on a building that overlooks a valley where most my family live. Maybe use a high gain antenna pointing north where everybody lives, and an amp of needed.
@vibys1
@vibys1 Год назад
@@Number4lead if you have a decent location like that, where everyone has line of sight, setting up a device in router mode could work well(probably wouldn't need an amp either). My urban testing has been, as expect, patchy. Although i get surprised some times when a signal does find its way through somehow.
@podes88
@podes88 2 года назад
Please do make many many more videos exploring the various features on LORA!
@zacharylewis417
@zacharylewis417 2 года назад
I have been following this project for several months now. Was just waiting on some new features from Meshtastic for more capabilities with messaging direct users or other groups instead of just one group where everyone can see the message. Just picked up some hardware. My goal is to cover my neighborhood with a 5 mile radius. I have a few friends that will let me install on their houses. Each one will have a 5000mah battery with 10w solar panel to charge it. Its an interesting prepper project. Of course standard radios would work fine but this has other pros.
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
I’m pretty sure I read they had released an alpha for direct messages, or at least they were soon to.
@beauregardslim1914
@beauregardslim1914 2 года назад
Cool! I remember some people building devices like this a while ago but it required a bunch of soldering and DIY software. Great to see you can just buy them and use them now.
@ITSALLFYA
@ITSALLFYA 8 месяцев назад
Im excited to see this added to Neighborhood managed Security systems.
@thebeardedokie3673
@thebeardedokie3673 2 года назад
Thanks for making this video. Please make more videos about this I am looking into get my own boards and want to know more and more about this stuff.
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
More coming real soon :)
@Growmechanic
@Growmechanic 2 года назад
I’m with you. Just need to know what exactly to buy.
@technicaldifficulties2522
@technicaldifficulties2522 5 месяцев назад
​@@GrowmechanicI'm I'm that boat right now..
@justaregularguy3827
@justaregularguy3827 10 месяцев назад
Ive gotten 27 miles in MD with a high altitude holystone drone the hs360 woth a emshtastic beam syrapped to it and the antennae pointing toward the ground then it become my high altitude repeater ...works great ...update. Got 89 miles...holy shit
@SimEon-jt3sr
@SimEon-jt3sr 6 месяцев назад
No way. That's crazy. Do you have someone else picking up? And you fly the drone? Or can you leave the drone and it can land itself when it runs low on power?
@justaregularguy3827
@justaregularguy3827 6 месяцев назад
@@SimEon-jt3sr my tbeam to the second at 2000 ft above me on the holy stone then to the 3rd one my buddy had at his home near upper maryland
@SimEon-jt3sr
@SimEon-jt3sr 6 месяцев назад
@@justaregularguy3827 man that's crazy I didn't even think consumer drones went that high. Isn't it possible to get a kite to stay high up for a long time? That would be crazy. I know air space things make it prohibitive in some areas but if not a kite a nice mylar helium balloon or old weather balloon? With a tether. Idk if it's possible to tether an airborne object anywhere but it's not gonna be taller than some of the cell towers out there. Maybe. One can dream
@jmcasler1512
@jmcasler1512 2 года назад
Thanks for the review of Meshtastic! This is really great!
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
You’re welcome, it’s a great project and I plan to do much more in the future.
@rangewatson4971
@rangewatson4971 2 года назад
I would encourage folks to try this stuff out and the meshtastic team is pretty darn cool, but know that this not at all ready for prime time. I am a techie with some serious professional experience in related fields, but I feel like I have fell down a rabbit hole trying to get this set up and ready for my community!
@dansuttle8977
@dansuttle8977 Год назад
Thanks for the heads up
@InclusiveDriving
@InclusiveDriving 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for pronouncing 'kilometres' correctly.
@justawfulgamer7738
@justawfulgamer7738 2 года назад
If this was basically plug and play, I'd be all for it.
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
Using different hardware it can be. They have preprogrammed hardware on the project website. Also, the TTGO PAX (or TTGO LORA32 v2) is a simpler hardware model with no GPS. As you use the phone anyway, the Meshtastic App connects via bluetooth and provides its GPS to the meshtastic protocol for positioning. Upload firmware -> connect via bluetooth -> Use phone app to configure device. Either power it via the phone OTG, a battery pack to its microUSB or a slim LiPo battery directly with the provided cable.
@markg6jvy135
@markg6jvy135 2 года назад
They look fun 👍👏👏
@badiearttech1144
@badiearttech1144 7 месяцев назад
Good job
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 7 месяцев назад
Thanks
@m7trsradio
@m7trsradio 8 месяцев назад
Great video i am thinking of getting one. Just because 😁 like these as it has a battery holder on the back 73
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 8 месяцев назад
Go for it!
@captainmcadams
@captainmcadams Год назад
More please... 😁😁 I just wish the prices of tech generally would stop creeping up...
@raspberrypimilitant2242
@raspberrypimilitant2242 2 года назад
That range test plugin sounds useful I hope they keep it I got two I'm messing with to get working I may need to reflash the firmware as they came with meshtastic installed and don't seem to want to send messages but will both connect to same channel and show location
@W4TRI
@W4TRI 2 года назад
Nice but I'm having enough of a time getting others to use 1200/9600 Packet. I doubt this would be adopted here.
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 2 года назад
These devices would be brilliant as emergency come for hikers...
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames 2 года назад
I'd love to know more about using this with a computer. Most of the videos about this mention the phone/tablet aspect and only mention the fact that it can be used with a laptop or something in passing, never really elaborating.
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
Do you mean from a serial port/usb level or the web interface?
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames 2 года назад
@@TechMindsOfficial I mean like sending messages from a laptop/PC to a phone or whatever, however that works.
@TwinDriver
@TwinDriver 2 года назад
A plugin to utilize meteor burst communication could add even further to the cool factor!
@kevinc9416
@kevinc9416 11 месяцев назад
Any audio versions of this tech?
@OrangeMesh_Technologies
@OrangeMesh_Technologies Год назад
Oange Dongle does similar function in much cleaner way, just connect the dongle to you phone
@GeorgeKontopoulos1
@GeorgeKontopoulos1 2 года назад
On the site of the HW board they mention 20 dBm output power (100 mW). However, in Europe the max allowed power in 433 MHz is 10 mW, and in 868 MHz is 25 mW. I wonder if the board uses the max power in all frequencies (100 mW), or different per frequency band, or it is user configured...
@yardsale781
@yardsale781 10 месяцев назад
Do you know if a license is required at these freqs? 433 is ham radio freq, but 800 is not best I can tell
@PhG1961
@PhG1961 2 года назад
Remarkable and interesting.
@watchletter
@watchletter Год назад
I am planning to use this to communicate with a friend of mine that lives around 7km away in a different village, since her parents always turn the wifi off after 8pm because they think its bad for health. Do you think that that would work?
@aldissmans3859
@aldissmans3859 2 года назад
I am very interested in Meshtastic LORA WEB server. I look forward to new videos!
@frankhovis
@frankhovis Год назад
Would be good if there was some stations within range..
@azizbouslimi3655
@azizbouslimi3655 2 года назад
is it possible to make a mesh network with 4 LoRa nodes?.... and all the nodes communicating with each other with LoRa RMF 96?
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
Meshtastic is all about the mesh. Its the default in this system. It also has settings to make a node into a relay only unit.
@DoctorAtomTNT
@DoctorAtomTNT 2 года назад
Great video, was the LCD screen soldered or did you have to manually do it? I’m not great with soldering I’m afraid.
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
I had to solder it, luckily it’s only 4 pins. You may be able to find them presoldered .
@Charles-lt9rr
@Charles-lt9rr Год назад
Thanks very much my dear. Please, I would like to know if the device will work in Africa especially in Nigeria and Cameroon. I wanted to buy the device but I am not very sure if it will work very well in Nigeria and Cameroon. Please, I am waiting for your reply. Thanks very much
@krelis77
@krelis77 2 года назад
Is this all legal in europe (austria)? Would be great when skiing with my kids and talk to them all at the same time. Great vid 👍😎👌
@djk8541
@djk8541 2 года назад
The 433mhz and 868mhz versions are legal in Austria
@daveamies5031
@daveamies5031 2 года назад
This channel has a few videos on the subject, he is Swiss (not EU but similar) but quite knowledgeable and explains the frequencies required in each region ru-vid.com/show-UCu7_D0o48KbfhpEohoP7YSQ (Andreas Spiess)
@kenttheboomer721
@kenttheboomer721 2 года назад
You say, "talk.." I'm pretty sure it only transmits SMS text messaging.
@daveamies5031
@daveamies5031 2 года назад
@@kenttheboomer721 Ahh kids these days, a text message is the only way they know how to talk, my kids would rather send a discord message from the next room rather than talk (my wife hates it)
@vu2cwp671
@vu2cwp671 2 года назад
Hi ! Can you do a video about caribouLite SDR ?
@scottj9703
@scottj9703 Год назад
so - in order to work - each mobile device needs to be within bluetooth range of a LORA unit?
@roostertechchan
@roostertechchan 2 года назад
I think the record is something like 800km but it's a signal bounced off the stratosphere.
@esquire9445
@esquire9445 Год назад
I thought Lora had a satellite network?
@roosboom
@roosboom 2 года назад
How does Meshtastic exactly work with iOS? Can you use an existing channel from an Android?
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
Yes, they can work together, although the iOS version is slightly behind the Android version in terms of features etc. but it appears to be very actively in development
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
Channels are shared via QR codes. Have one phone generate the unique channel code and have other phones scan the code to configure their primary channel. (Phones can only use a single channel for now)
@FlinFarmer
@FlinFarmer 2 года назад
Please show us how to solar power one of these boards. Im not finding much online. Thanks
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
Any solar to 5v device will work as the microusb both powers and programs it. Some boards have dedicated solar sockets but may require more technical knowledge.
@MaliciouslyCompliant
@MaliciouslyCompliant 2 года назад
Are you Moss from The IT Crowd?
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
Yes…
@Kermode-qn1bf
@Kermode-qn1bf 2 года назад
@@TechMindsOfficial in terms of coolness, absolutely 👍
@Abbici
@Abbici Год назад
Hallo! I didn't understand: Can i use it without wifi provider? Is there anywhere to send receive data with Sat but without Internet? Thank and sorry for the bother. @}-,-'--------- Gianfranco
@Vikingza
@Vikingza 2 года назад
Could one setup a meshtastic mounted on top of a block of flats to act in the same way as a digipeater works interms of receiving a encoded message and then rebroadcasting it back out to help get further coverage?
@vee8776
@vee8776 2 года назад
Of course, it acts as a central node in a mesh.
@jmcasler1512
@jmcasler1512 2 года назад
It has a device router mode for just this. Easy to turn it on.
@BritishBeachcomber
@BritishBeachcomber 2 года назад
I'm still looking for a good use for LORA. Maybe useful for big farmers tracking their machines out in the field?
@Max-kn9yi
@Max-kn9yi Год назад
Don't need internet?
@donnytrisandi8862
@donnytrisandi8862 2 года назад
minute 6.10 how to open and write program in windows? someone pls help i need to change my radio frequency
@himanshurai420
@himanshurai420 Год назад
How can i use it as repeater
@Suzuki_Akira
@Suzuki_Akira 2 года назад
Can a frequency be set?
@patring620
@patring620 2 года назад
So anything sent over the network is readable by everyone, and I have to monitor every message to see the messages intended for me? Can the senders be identified and filtered? I am trying to figure out how a conversation might work with many people trying to communicate on the same channel. Interesting technology, and it's cool, but I wonder how to use effectively if you can't use call signs, etc. Thanks.
@jmcasler1512
@jmcasler1512 2 года назад
User names work now. Secondary channels and direct messaging is supported on the device, the clients (android/iOS/web) are catching up.
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
All communication is AES encrypted with a shared key (the channel). There are ~6 default channels configured. To create a unique channel, go to the channels settings and click the 'generate' random button. Use the resultant QR code to configure all the other phone apps. You will only see messages encrypted for that channel. You can rename nodes to the users name if preferred.
@BillCoSmith
@BillCoSmith 2 года назад
What is the frequency range of the radio?
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
Depends what model you purchase. Either 433 or 868/915 I believe. Although I’m sure my 868 works on 433 but I need to double check that.
@christophersmith1155
@christophersmith1155 2 года назад
im guessing that i need to be connected to my wifi and internet to make this work ?
@TechMindsOfficial
@TechMindsOfficial 2 года назад
Technically no, as long as you have the firmware installed and configured, you just connect to the device using Bluetooth and use the app on the phone/tablet. If you want to use the web server feature, then yes, you need to be connected to your WiFi. All stated in the video.
@christophersmith1155
@christophersmith1155 2 года назад
thx
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
No internet required. The units can connect to phone via bluetooth or operate as a wifi access point (that goes nowhere) which you then connect to with your phone. I think the android app supports serial OTG so you can cable them together. No internet means you will miss out on the GPS map feature though.
@blumaxx1
@blumaxx1 2 года назад
Will this unit work with wifi cameras?
@chats5957
@chats5957 2 года назад
no. Lora is for small data packets only.
@SimEon-jt3sr
@SimEon-jt3sr 6 месяцев назад
I thought u can just use the boards to do the texting?
@Hex-Mas
@Hex-Mas 2 года назад
Meshtastic is grate.... However it has a long way to go from being absolute.
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
Meshtastic can act as a radio network for the ATAK system....
@Number4lead
@Number4lead Год назад
Is there amplifiers to legally boost the signal between the units?
@787310
@787310 Год назад
Get a better antenna could look into getting a low noise amplifier too for it but will require separate power
@stevecarlisle3323
@stevecarlisle3323 2 года назад
I am hopefull that sensors can be connected to un used I/O to generate messages.
@KeithMon
@KeithMon 2 года назад
You can do this now. Meshtastic has MQTT built in and support for a selection of sensors.
@stevecarlisle3323
@stevecarlisle3323 2 года назад
@@KeithMon Thanks
@lumixS5M2
@lumixS5M2 2 года назад
Attention Europe Ama zon buy ers: When buy boards from Amaz on V1.1 and also buy the Display, the display pin GND and VCC need modify (wider set). Battery: You need the short battery size 65mm (6.5cm) Longer battery not fit easy inside the battery holder. This not mention in video.
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
Battery is the 18650. It is a 3v unit. Widely available online or in older Tesla's ;)
@lumixS5M2
@lumixS5M2 2 года назад
@@MichaelBransonCoach there are 2 types, short with outer pins and one with overload protection is longer whit flat contact pins and this last one not fitting!!!
@MichaelBransonCoach
@MichaelBransonCoach 2 года назад
@@lumixS5M2 Your right. You need the unprotected ones that have equally flat ends, not a pointy one. Mine is the NCR18650B. Some torches and vapes use these batteries. In the meantime you can use a power bank. If your using old batteries, they might have tabs spot welded to them. You can carefully peel this off with pliers. If you did have a tabbed battery, you could un-solder the battery holder and solder the battery in its place.
@bdnsoznabxbzha8720
@bdnsoznabxbzha8720 Год назад
Gi
@WayneHarris
@WayneHarris Год назад
Just purchased a "LILYGO® TTGO Meshtastic T-Beam V1.1 ESP32 LoRa" . Has anyone else had a problem simply putting a battery in the back of this thing? The battery bracket seems to be just a hair too small for a standard 18650 battery. Anyone else have this issue? Or is it just me?
@kf5hcr176
@kf5hcr176 7 месяцев назад
You need a flat top 18650
@WayneHarris
@WayneHarris 7 месяцев назад
@@kf5hcr176 Thanks. Took me a few months to figure that out. I didn't know that they existed at the time.
@renderuthis
@renderuthis 2 года назад
I understand non of that. I think you skip over stuff or generalize when doing specific or something.
@PhilG8PJH
@PhilG8PJH 2 года назад
What’s the point?
@Hex-Mas
@Hex-Mas 2 года назад
Why comment?
@alexcook4851
@alexcook4851 2 года назад
Point to point , lol
@stgx3626
@stgx3626 2 года назад
Hackers and makers should team up globaly to purchace cheap chinese lora boards, get them ready for encrypted mesh and supply the heros defending Ukraina!
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