CHECK OUT CARS & BIDS carsandbids.com I took my 2006 Range Rover off-roading with a Jeep Wrangler and an FJ60 Toyota Land Cruiser. (Doug DeMuro) Music: - Dan Paladin: "Castle Crashers Barracks Tune" - Nim: "Venture"
lol.... Well stock they're pretty capable against audis and similar but put it against a Toyota Tacoma or Nissan xterra/frontier stock, or better yet with a proper suspension in it- something you can't do to these newer model Land Rovers, and you'll quickly find that this is far from 'better than any other' in fact you won't be able to do half the stuff these do, and they're still IFS and have a comfy ride. And if you want airbag suspension (god only knows why you'd want to lose that much roadfeedback while offroading but each to their own) you can always install one in a Toyota, Nissan, Jeep, etc. The problem with Land Rovers like this is they aren't modifiable, you can't put large tires on them due to their tire clearance issues, so good M/Ts aren't going on there. Notice how he didn't take the range rover through the mud puddle that the stock jeep got stuck in? Approach angles are also bad. It's a great car though for minor to moderate dirt roads in national forests when you're not planning on really getting onto the harder trails (where a nice steel plate bumper to help push crap out of the way comes in handy, and so does not worrying as much about the paint). It will get you places but it is far from the ultimate offroading experience.
My friend convinced a girl with the same model RR to come wheeling with us not too long ago. She beat the fuck out of this thing through some pretty big mud holes and violent hill climbs with rocks, tree roots, and holes throughout them. Definitely drove harder than this video and I gave that truck so many props for holding up to what has broken tons of Jeeps and full size trucks here.
kinda remind me of the Top Gear Bolivia special when both May and Hammond suffered because their car rides so rough and there's Clarkson sitting in his Range Rover relaxed while listening to Will Young.
+Riswan Ahmad P The sad truth behind backyard engineers hyping up their 4x4's without any knowledge of automotive engineering, where the guys driving stock vehicles are almost just as capable given the correct driving style, and not spending a cent. Source: Australia
+Igor K no doubt the ROver is an icon in itself, its just the way people use them. Usually with such price tag they end up as mall crawlers, but very capable. The wrangler is a totally different banana, you can peel it and dress it up to your liking. There is no point, unless you make a scientific study, which one is most capable over-all, It's a matter of taste, lifestyle and economics. Terrain also matters. Offroad is a general term. The jeepers will get in your face and tell you try to crawl your ROver in Rocks. The Rovers heritage is in OVERLANDING. because it has the size, room, and the capability to perform such task. The jeep as it stands, is pretty much a toy for most, although its starting to expand its exposure to overlanding. I think we all get it, you can still have fun in a rover with the creature comforts as mentioned. Jeepers, like theirs open, top down, so? no point comparing. Unless you own both and do what they are for, i suppose you will not spend so much time comparing them but rather, enjoying them.
+ipullstuffapart If you are referring to the engineers that try to make the wranglers survive huge rocks, and the Crazy lifestyles that go with it, then, whatever helps the NOOB jeeper helps. The jeep lifestyle will lure you to do all those crazy offroading. But you are right, it is mostly a hype, but it feeds on a lifestyle not everybody can afford.
Definitely, they come with all season tires to have good street performance in different weathers, but don't have a very aggressive tread to optimize offroading so there's some compromise.
+Richard Harrold No the traction control is what makes the range rover work offroad, since it replaces the locking diff systems. It is extremely capable, but it acts as a feedback, so you have to get the wheels to spin to get the computer to figure out what it needs to lock to regain traction. Most of these systems take some revving, a lot of the time you can get it to trigger early by feathering the brake a bit.
love how the jeep has to speed through everything and the land rover goes through it just nice and slowly. wonder what tires he was running on his range rover
+BeanerMan3k There is a threshold though, where going too fast loses traction. The Jeep driver in this video is clearly blasting it because he thinks he is being cool, not because he is a good driver.
Whenever they pass a small puddle the jeep floors it, making all kind of noise and getting mud everywhere like a 16 year old boy. The Range rover could have made it through the last obstacle with more power, but that isn't the proper way. Gunning it through a ditch like that is only going to end up damaging your vehicle. He is simply inexperience and picked a really bad line. He could have easily picked a different line and gotten through easily.
and possibly damaged his vehicle. The proper way through that obstacle is a different line. Maybe he would have got through it by slamming into the hole with enough momentum to pop out, but this isn't the proper method, will end up damaging the vehicle, and will not working it more difficult situations. Are harder obstacles this jeep drivers methods will just create a loss in traction that will get him stuck. As fast as necessary, as slow as possible, is a motto of many good off road drivers for a good reason.
I have a 2005 Range Rover, so far I've replaced the front air struts, OEM LR for $850 shipped, complete cooling system with all OEM and Behr radiator$800, transmission flush with Amsoil ATF$225, timing chain guides and gaskets $500, I did all the work myself. My RR has never broke down or gave me a problem, never, but I'm the type of person that replaces everything before it breaks, anyone could have one of these, I paid $11k with 105k miles on it, these super reliable if you maintain them and fix them before they break down.
Yes a lot of peoples think "its a SUV so its indestructible" so they dont maintain it. But you have to maintain it more than other car because its a very complex car (air suspension.....). And after something break down these peoples say Range Rovers are unreliable shitty SUVs.
@@CiaranScottGarsun They are shitty because so much stuff breaks. That's why you can buy a Range Rover that sold new for over $60K for under $10K. The owner of this channel explains how he got over $15K in repairs paid for by Carmax. No one can defend the Range Rovers. The defense is not "If you just replace everything before it breaks nothing will break". Instead think "A quality vehicle breaks less and costs less money and TIME to maintain".
Hi Doug , I have the same range and I use it off-roading for many years . the point you stop and turn back is very easy to go on , (low,first or second gear) and just step on it , the range can do much more !
Doug throw some Cooper LTZ's on your Range Rover. They will make a world of a difference and they make everyday driving on pavement much smoother. I put them on my daily Range with the same 19" wheels as you. Highly recommend it. Tire size, 255/55/R19.
Funny how everyone’s bashing the unreliability on the Range Rover, also quite literally the best off-roading vehicle. I really saw a comment saying a g series is better, what an absolute joke. G series is all bark ZERO bite. That “unreliability” is dam near equal or less than any other car on a trail day. As we clearly saw here. Things covered with skid plates. With big tires you have major ground clearance anyway. The air intake is pressed up on the hood. Even if it does breakdown or have a small issue which you would most likely already know about, they make these cars so you can fix them up whenever and wherever. Everything is very accessible and simple if you know what your doing. Hell I’m 19 and I can fix almost anything on these cars. I sincerely love this car to death. There is no such thing as a reliable off-roading car that’s actually good, let alone high class. Learn how to fix your own cars.
Igor Alessio it works. my car was getting concerningly hot, so I pulled over, put it in park, revved it at about 3000 for about 5 minutes, halved the temperature which was just over the red near the H. which means hot.
+Aidan Sweeney thats weird. If your car overheats, its a signal of a bad cooling system, maybe a leak or your fan isn't working. revving it up just makes it hotter and harder to cool of, the best thing to do is turning it off or just leting it run at 800 rpm until it is cool. I've driven a car whose fan wasnt working properly, and got in a heavy traffic on a summer day. guess what? water boiled. I was lucky tu turn it off quickly and didn't got worst problems hehe
+Igor Alessio If your fan isn't working, nothing besides turning it off is going to help it cool down. -On the other hand, if your fan is working fine and it is a mechanical fan, like on most older cars (probably how it is on that Land Cruiser), revving the engine spins the fan faster and sucks more air into the radiator, thus cooling it down.
I 4-wheeled my '06 Jeep Liberty for three hours in 100+ degree heat in the desert, with A/C on and never once had the temp needle go above the center position. That Range Rover is either leaking coolant, has an undersized radiator, or has a fan out because that overheating in that climate should not happening lol.
At least someone who went "off roading" with his Range Rover, but to be honest the terrain and your tires were just a joke! Your Range Rover seemed to be sleeping during this little trip....
Oh YES - we all love the "occasional off-roading". It's all about this felling between "I'm coooool as hell!" and "Yes, I'm a 4 year old kid trapped in the body of a 40 year old man!" and "Get the fuck out of my way or I will run over you!"...
Yes, but people are still angry at the fact that the RR can accomplish Luxury, On road and off road performance at the same time, while remaining stylish, comfortable and beautiful. People seem to forget that a car, no matter if it’s a RR, Land Cruiser, Jeep or a Suzuki, in an off-road environment will suffer and of course you are not going to go home with a 100% healthy car. So they slap the Unreliable dog tag on the RR, just cuz they are harder to fix due to electronics... which in fact it is kind of a pain in the ass.
2018 what a nice flashback, still remember watching this videos way back in time. Now more than 2 million subscribers, the DougScore, More Doug DeMuro, things have changed a little.
The Toyota is like 30 years old and holds its own against two modern, capable off-roaders with at least twice the power. I'd like to see where the Range Rover will be 20 years from now.
I love your vids. But I have to be a teeny bit critical of this one. Firstly the cars were not of similar vintage,similar purpose, similar cost with similarly skilled drivers. I have to say that the Wrangler driver did not know how to drive in those conditions - but your driving style was very good - by comparison. Also, if the wrangler had its roof up it would have been a far more civilized experience for the occupants. Not as cushy as the Rangie of course but far better than with the top down. Next thing that they do have in common is the high likelihood of breaking down. I presume you took the Toyota to be sure that you had a car to get you home. How ironic that it pegged out! But you really can't compare the 2 door Jeep with the Rangie. They are made for very different people and purposes. But another hing they have in common is that they both are good when they are good and very bad when they are bad. Thanks for the excursion through the mud.
Greg M he wasn't really comparing them though or saying one was better than the other. He just wanted to take his out and those were the vehicles his friends have. Pretty sure he same jeep guy went with him in the hummer and land cruiser vids as well
Man, lock your rear diff. You got stuck at a joke of a point. Having had 2 land cruisers, a Modded Runners, modded FJs, and 3 RRs, I will say that the RR is a very capable vehicle with the proper tires and knowledge. The folks that bash them often just can't afford them. yes, too many soccer moms, but if you have the money is a very safe vehicle for your kids and is a lot nicer than a suburban. I even prefer it to my Landcruiser I put over 200k miles on. You can even lift a RR for under 200 bucks by fooling the EAS and really get some lift. Driving faster to cool the engine?? you are on a trail, blast the heat.
I had a vogue SE 3.6 TDV8, best car I've ever owned but least reliable. Off-road meant in the garage most of the time. I'd have another if it wasn't for the bloody £500 road tax on top of the monthly repair bills. Brilliant machine though utterly amazing.
I think everyone is missing something pretty obvious....driving on a dirt road a day after it rained isn't really "off roading" Now take all three vehicles to a designated off road park and do a test, you'll quickly learn that independent suspension vehicles just don't have enough travel to do anything. The last shot in the video shows it. If you cant keep the tires on the ground, you're not going to make it far. Very simple.
+SilverBulletTj The typical response from an "off-roading expert (usually Jeep owner)" that thinks nothing is off roading unless its the most extreme trail imaginable. Also, that there are only 2 classes of vehicle: non-off roaders and Jeeps with every expensive mod available. This logic is like assuming no car can be quick or fun, unless its a LaFerrari at the Nurburgring.
Dont hate bro, yeah I've had multiple jeeps....and a bunch of chevys...and an ifs toyota. Guess which one sucked dick off road. I was once a youngin in highschool blowing all my cash on my first tj. But saying you have to have every expensive mod on a jeep is bullshit. A stock tj we'll pretty much do what ever you want if you can drive. Plus, buy a hacked up tj for around $2500 that some idiot tried to long arm, but dropped some coin on gears and lockers, fix hack job fab stuff, and you can have a super cheap, very capable, off road rig. I've done it twice now. And nothing wrong with dirt road driving if thats your thing, go for it
+SilverBulletTj And install a SYE, or transfer case drop, new rear driveshaft if you lift it more 2.5 inches, replace the failure prone Dana 35, and then you might have a reliable TJ. Of course, after you replace the cooling system, or the OPDA if you have an 05/06 model. TJs are not bad, but they take a lot more work than a comparable full size 4x4 to work well off road. I live in Florida, and the terrain is largely sand and woods. Not too many rocks around these parts. I own a 00 TJ Sport. After a year of work and close to 3K (that includes new tires, cooling system, auto trans, and brakes) it might be as capable as the 95 Tahoe Z71 2 door it replaced.
Farrukh Mehmood lol right.... the guys saying this have never gone off road and gotten dirty, there better off sitting on a couch with there fan on them
Really enjoyed the sarcasm at the beginning of the video, and the displaying of the auto hight adjustment feature. I have had a CJ-7 all decked. 3 Bronco 2's, a 95 montero, and a 03 Montero. As I had gotten married, have children now, I more so than anything, now enjoying going out for some good quality safari riding. I'm in a severe toss up between another Montero and a R.Rover ! Maybe it's just time for a Rover !
Luke Davis "poor" rover guys? Those rovers cost more than your typical murican trucks. His old yellow rover would be better suited for this than that fancy one.
I have a lot of experience with that era of Land Cruiser’s and I think something might be wrong with it. In my experience they are very capable of driving at low speeds all day with no over heating issue. The air intake height seems decently high but not exceptional. My biggest complaint is long rear overhang. I’ve gotten hung up and stuck cause of it numerous times!!
If you guys own a jeep then this tip is for you :) When you are in mud you must switch to 4H since 4l is to much torque and 4h makes wheelspins which results in better grip but the most important thing is to TURN OFF THE DSC :) Learned this from an instructor which was pretty cool but THERES A QURIK ON THE JEEP MANY JEEPERS DONT KNOW When your hillclimb attempt fails just put it in reverse no GAS AND NO BRAKES and when yu let go of break after shifting to reverse the jeep would slide down fast at first but in a second will slow down like your on hill descent control cuz theres a hill descent control in reverse :) hope this helped you guys out on your trails;)
Never been an off-roader but I heard that Tacomas were actually quite capable off-roading vehicles, especially if upgraded, supercharged and if they came with a manual. Is there any truth to this?
The Range Rover is excellent, I agree. Trust me i'm a huge fan. Unibody has many advantages, including mpg, handling, and will work perfectly well for off-road and towing. The advantage of a body on frame design is that the chassis is separate from the body, which means it hhas the frame to flex and take that stress, so the body doesnt have to. With a unibody, all that stress and strain is going through the whole body, which will be detrimental in the long run. An example of this is if you go on an axle twister (ie two wheels off the ground) and try to open your door on a unibody, chances are you wont be able to open it because the whole body is flexing. Not so with body on frame, which for this application is a better design. The best solution is really the Discovery 3/4 chassis.
Actually body on frame provides a better ride as there is more separation. Bumps have to go through the chassis and its mounts before it affects the body. No flex in anything? The unibody does resist flex, that is true, and that really helps in handling. But that is also a problem, especially when put under strain in off road or towing situations. The body will flex where it shouldnt. With body on frame, the frame is designed with flex in mind, so it will be more durable in the long run. As for crashes, the G-Class is a very old design, dating back to 1979. Look at a crash test of the new Land Cruiser 200, it gets a 5 star NCAP rating.
They're off road trails. I do a lot on my Xterra. These are easy Off-Road Trails, they're not hardcore ones you're thinking of but it's still off-road. But I will it admit, it's hilarious he thought these were difficult. haha
I was offroading with this kind off road even I think mine was little morr tougher and I took my family, I drove 2001 Nissan Pathfinder 4x4... even my Grandpa brings his 2012 Ford Everest 4x2, and he went through everything without any single problem.
had you simply taken a different angle, your tire wouldn't have spun to the point you were stuck. also should've gotten a better range rover. all the recent ones, as in 2013 land rover range rover sport, has locking diffs. also wouldn't have had that problem. GO JEEP though
ill take the Range Rover over a jeep any day not because its a RR but because you get what you pay for it does what they say it can do... jeeps are crap the always need work (2000-up jeeps argue it if you please its a fact no matter what) yes jeep parts are less but see RR ARE built to last. thats why i will most likely be trading in my 05 ford f250 for a 05-07 Range Rover
csu266 iv seen it i know the risks but when the panastar v6 is known for actually bursting into flames/ the engine needing to be replaced at low milage ill stick with some problems of the range rover..
I watched my friends old 2010 Landy conquer a layer of frozen mud with snow on top over vid chat. Told him it wouldn't be able to go through it. He proved me wrong! He had a air suspension swap and big 32s (I believe). It handled it like a pro!
Danny Zabolotny, but its not a wrangler... yes there good off road but your spending 70-80k on a luxurious suv, anyone would be to scared to take serious off roading. with a jeep, you break something oh well you go pick up a new piec. lol
Land Rover vehicles such as this are great off road as long as you use the proper settings and take your time, any video that I have seen where owners go off roadin have at the least put on proper tires and know their truck. Driving through the trail like he was I'm shocked that he didn't break something and it's no wonder in his other videos that parts are breaking such as the front air springs, that Rover is no newer than 04 / 05 unlike the Jeep that looks to be no older than a year with the proper tires. Don't put the vehicles down when it's the drivers that don't know what they are doing. And yes the Rovers come with locking rear diff's and terrain settings along with a host of other systems, I should know as I'm a Land Rover LR3 HSE V8 owner and I have the same settings with air springs along with the better more reliable air spring system. If your intent on breaking something it really makes no difference how well built it is.
