@@vcasella1989 Spirit has been bad since the start of 2024. OG had a decent Dreamleague performance and then turned to shit when EUW teams started exposing Tomato 2 heroes pool and Ceb laning phase.
Man, I miss when BZM wasent a dog shit mid, I remember even just a few months ago he was always killing it, now that first game he lets the pos4 batrider get more networth then the pos2 OD. Embarrassing. Looks like he’s just given up
Or like these casters said "Shadow Demon is a good counter to PL because of Disseminate". Joke aside, PL can be hard countered if you know how to draft
@@rac8153 Get off his D, it's quite ovbious Ceb is the one asking those heros. Misha and Kitrak never asked garbage pos 5 heros because they don't have ego problems like Ceb
Kicking yuragi when the issue is the coach is the problem. Considering bzm is like the only one left from the original iteration of young OG, i can see why it would mess with his performance
2:40 lol wtf is this play. Zero enemies on map, right in front of enemy t2, zero backup nearby, alch charges stun right in front of morph and he just stays on agi. Why lol
Dying 10 times as a support is suboptimal but whatever, dying 10 times as a support with Alchemist is the equivalent of giving away a divine rapier to the enemy.
Ceb used to get away with his arrogance riding on his excellence. I am not afraid to say that, he is one of the worse pos 5 I have ever seen in pro dota. Maybe on level of kuro. And somehow BZM has lost his form instead of improvement. Sad to see his downfall.
@abhishekanand8577 Him being an excellent player while being an ass pos 5 isn't mutually exclusive, like no one will disagree if you said ATF is a shit pos 1
@@xaxaxaxaax Can't agree more. Just like ammar and yuragi, find better teammates where he can reach his full potential. Sometimes, stagnation kills your talent.
@@mrsquadbot I think there is a small overlap but being good at a particular position does not make your good at all others. He can be great pos 5 in pub games in immortal rank maybe, but in pro dota, current supports are miles ahead of him. I mean, the guy does not even ward half the time.
anybody know why noobfromua not uploading boom's matches? I feel like it's quite big since they never lose in this tournament yet. Oh nvm, I bet they will only if they match against nigma, tundra or OG.
Thankfully, there is alternate DotA highlight channel like LeagueofDota and Dota 2 Rapier which often uploaded a game between a lower tier team with a low fanbases. I'd go with those channel instead
I'd be curious to know Mishas input, I think everyone is performing pretty well. BZM is out of form unfortunately, hopefully gets back to his prime. Ceb is doing well at 5, still learning his craft but trust he can get there.
I think his approach is not good for pos 5. Forget his wacky greedy picks, lets talk about his warding. A lot of laning phase disasters can be stopped by a good warding/positioning of pos 5. But cebs warding is mediocre at best.
@@upgemynd I mean the guy is right. Wisper has an unconventional pos3 hero pool (puck, kotl etc) which OG never utilizes. They could at least use it in a drafting strategy but no, they keep picking boring meta shit
OG need changes. From Misha draft, Ceb feeding in lane to afk farming Tomato just to get solokilled by pos 5 Fishman.... Bzm/whisper had some moments but not enough to even compete with Entity. Ari hoodwink didnt fit with the draft, they seems to pick it just based on comfort rather than planned ahead Entity however were pretty clean, watson and No One are a good core combo. Off topic but these casters were meh. No hype, focus on superficial things and then talking 5 min about SD's Disseminate as a PL counter .... Disseminate is as much as PL's counter as Mirana's arrow or Doom's Doom. Hopefully mainstage gets better
I don't get it. They have poor results after poor results. Somehow fail to consider whether the problem is with this coach guy and keep changing the players instead. If a coach can't help team with good results, why he gets to stay this long with the team. Boggles my mind.
Ceb is giving a lot of opportunities to enemy team like this dude's draft was meant for enemy team to own it in the first 5 minutes. His laning phase and warding is so bad it hurts to watch, wtf is that game 1 dude? Entity playstyle/draft is not something new or mind blowing either but OG seems to struggle to even stay in lane. Imagine your rival is pos 5 Bane in 2024.
What do you mean 'Bane'? Bane is lethal in the hands of a good player. The hero can trade, can disable, can reduce your damage and has a bkb piercing ult. Don't forget his enhanced night vision.
@@abhishekanand8577 not saying bane is bad or anything he also my main for years but it easily countered by many things and OG have many thing they’re very versatile in draft but they just don’t choose the comfortable thing always experimenting shits. Fishman is a good player and so is everyone in this tournament, OG seems to forget that and balls to play alchemist as pos 5 is just dumb, first game full of error that shouldn’t be there if they draft better.
After watching a lot of tournaments, I believe OG has the largest amount of haters of all the teams, mainly due to them being toxic in every single game.
I meant back then some so called “OG fans” be spreading hates everywhere, same case with old liquid too (Ti7); making folks kinda annoyed by em. While Ceb himself is quite toxic too so ye lol
I'd rather have Notail as pos5 instead of Ceb. Drafting is as bad as Nigma. If you watch true sight notail had accurate ideas. Kick misha, move ceb to coach then notail to pos 5
the things is... pos 1 players know what a good pos 5 is. Thats why it was so easy for notail to transition. He knew what heroes to pick, where to place wards, when to use skills correctly. Ceb is playing as a pos 4.5 he is likes using item dependent heroes, warding is sht, makes me appreciate notail even more.
