Oh dear... NOT what I was expecting! | HOKA Speedgoat 6 First Run and Initial Review | Run4Adventure

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HOKA Speedgoat 6 - first run & first impressions. It’s Hoka Speedgoat day at the channel again, always an exciting day because I’ve got a lot of history with the Speedgoat franchise from Hoka! I’ve ran in every model of this popular trail running shoe, from the slightly unstable original version all the way to the Speedgoat 5, with the third iteration of the shoe being one of favourite trail shoes of all time. Hoka have just launched the latest Speedgoat 6 and in this video we go through some facts and figures, I’m going to break down the construction in a bit more detail and then I’m going to lace them up and take them out for their first run on the beautiful trails of Cornwall!
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0:00 Intro
2:54 Facts and figures
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7:00 Test run
11:51 How the shoes performed
12:20 Upper performance
13:28 Outsole performance
14:30 Midsole performance
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@LuiisSiilvaa 8 дней назад

Mafate Speed 4 is now the GOAT of HOKA eheh

@berry5954 8 дней назад

can you compayre it to other shoes?

@user-yb3uk7yh5t 8 дней назад

I wish I had the same experience with the Mafate 4, but then I am so used to the Speedgoat 3 and 4, nothing else compares. The Mafate does not have that "pop" as he describes and I quit using mine after about 4 weeks.

@JasonRaneses 8 дней назад

For my next pair, I’d get the Mafates over these without question. They unfortunately don’t come in a 15.

@Run4Adventure 6 дней назад

I’d agree, the Mafate Speed 4 is more comfortable and the midsole returns a lot more energy than the be SG6! 👍

@Run4Adventure 6 дней назад

I was a massive fan of the SG3, one of my best trail shoes of all time! I still feel the Mafate Speed 4’s midsole is pretty good and I definitely get a good level of bounce when I’m running in them 👍

@josiebones1 9 дней назад

The Speedgoat 3 was a revelation to me. Best bounce and traction I'd ever experienced. Unfortunately I should have sized up because there wasn't enough room in the toe box. I've had some slightly mixed results with versions 4 and 5 but overall they've been the best trail shoes for me. All three are still going strong, which isn't something I can say for most other shoes. I'm looking forward to your long term review Lloyd!

@antoinejacques9310 9 дней назад

Great review as always and happy to see your recovery going well. I fully agree with your analysis of the shoe, it definitely feels firmer, but I find it to be a good thing to differentiate it more from the Mafate Speed 4 in the Hoka offering. Because I think these 2 shoes were very close to each other in the last iteration. The Speedgoat now sits in the middle of a highly cushioned Mafate and a super responsive TectonX. Man, seeing your t-shirt, it would have been so we'll matched with the blue-pink colorway Hoka sent me !

@Manuel-901 9 дней назад

Interesting reflection about this trail shoe. Keep it up, Loyd. Like to Run4adventure. Cheers.

@Run4Adventure 6 дней назад

Thanks Manuel 🙏🙂

@christopherhillam7286 9 дней назад

Loved my 4s but never felt the passion for the 5s after the stiff collar rubbed repeatedly. Couldn’t wait for the 6s, so went for Nnormal Tomir 2.0. Interested to see your review further down the line. Keep up the great work. 👍🏼👏🏼

@emlyngriffith5846 9 дней назад

I’m just wearing out my third pair of Speedgoats (I call them Slowboats) and I love them. I’m pretty heavy so need the cushioning they provide….and the grip is fine. Yes they’re a bit of a narrow fit so I’ve upped a whole size to an 11. No issues with laces or tongues, although the upper crease has worn through on all my pairs….but on height mileage Spanish mountain trails so can’t complain. I’m going back for a fourth pair! 👍🍷. Thanks for the video Loyd.

@Hennojvr 9 дней назад

1:25 Did you try slapping the Speedgoat 6 to see if we get the Speedgoat 7 as well? 😁

@Run4Adventure 9 дней назад

I’m going to give it a try right now! 😂😂

@kommmitraus 9 дней назад

Thx! I use my SG5 exklusively for long hikes in the alps, because they are to loose for me to run. But a great! speedhiking shoe :)

@austinrlewis 9 дней назад

I had the same reaction. It immediately felt much firmer and stiffer. Previous versions have been super springy and soft right out of the box. Hoping this version will soften up over time

@nicklas6973 9 дней назад

Vj shoes have the stickiest rubber compound. You should really try the new Vj maxx 2. It’s a great shoe. Probably the best trail shoes I’ve ever had. Half a size down is the recommendation.

@Riskabuen22 14 часов назад

Yeah, VJ is on another level. Made for orienteering runners. Where a straight line through mud and bushes tends to be the fastest way. They need the absolute best shoes. Hence VJ💪

@nicklas6973 10 часов назад

@@Riskabuen22 use mine mainly on ocr races. They stick to everything!

@tbiol001 8 дней назад

I've had 1 run in my new SG6's. I was hoping to have them be race-ready out of the box for this coming weekend's trail 1/2, but I'm with you. I feel like they may need to be broken in a little to get back to the comfort and feel that I've had in a past model of the SG. At least that is what I am hoping will happen.

@paulhoulden День назад

My first pair of Hokas were the Speedgoat 5s after having ran in S labs for years, I love the 5s, funny old game isnt it!

@TheHutchRuns 8 дней назад

I've just bought a pair of Brooks Caldera 6 for £63 and can't wait to try them out! Seemed to get great reviews when they came out

@Run4Adventure 7 дней назад

Hope you enjoy them, great price! 👍

@alredalred 9 дней назад

I don't know why but I like the 6. It's super firm but in a way, I enjoy running in it.

@Run4Adventure 6 дней назад

I’m glad you’re enjoying them 👍🙂

@bildotunechi 9 дней назад

Another great video from Run4BobandBradventure

@diederiklegrange7248 9 дней назад

😅

@Run4Adventure 9 дней назад

Not really sure what you mean by that 🤷‍♂️

@cornishman93 8 дней назад

@@Run4Adventure Don't worry about it, Loyd - if video sponsors mean you can keep putting out fantastic content, I'm happy with that.

@Run4Adventure 8 дней назад

@@cornishman93 Thanks mate 👍

@123cheenabhoy 21 час назад

Always thought well of Hoka but recently bought Sauconys and they feel great

@Run4Adventure 19 часов назад

Glad you’re enjoying your Saucony’s! 👍

@dinkthinks3958 9 дней назад

Just ran in my new Asics Trabuco Max 3s! Was disappointed with the SG 5 midsole. TM 3s have that FF+ bounce. Maybe a bit unstable due to the stack… outsole grip is outstanding. After listening to this review I’m glad I’m giving them a try! Cheers!

@berry5954 8 дней назад

they are gold, perform on any terrain. My goto if I don't know the trail and/or conditions.

@user-yb3uk7yh5t 8 дней назад

I also found the Asics Trabuco and am using those now. My feet shift a little in them, but they are the closest I have found so far that resemble the cushion of SG 3.

@quercus21 9 дней назад

Never got on with my speedgoat 5’s. Never felt like they offered any return. Absolutely love my Mafate speed 4 and to a slightly lesser extent, Tecton x 2. Excellent review Lloyd. Hopefully see you at the Serpent.

@mikehooley6398 8 дней назад

Totally agree - felt like the speedgoat 5 really beat up the legs by the end of an ultra. The Mafate Speed 4s are everything I ever wanted a speedgoat to be... They do a bit of everything and the energy return is much better!

@thomasstehling2489 7 дней назад

Fully agree. Mafate Speed 4 remains unbeaten. Only thing I don't like about the Mafate is the dirt-collector heel tongue. Hope they remove that or add at least a little ring on the front to attach a gaiter.

@mikehooley6398 7 дней назад

@@thomasstehling2489 Yes! That is a downside to be fair!

@quercus21 7 дней назад

@@mikehooley6398 Absolutely. I hope they don’t ruin the next version. Just ran the “race to the king”. Absolutely no issues with the Mafate speed 4.

@michaelhooley 7 дней назад

Unreal! Hope the race went well!

@RE71476AD 8 дней назад

Excellent Loyd. I had read other reviews about the SG6 and was not impressed. I was waiting for your review before making my final decision, which is to NOT buy these. The Saucony Xodus Ultra v1 remains the best all round trail shoe for me. The v2 is still very good but somehow not quite as good as v1, not exactly sure why. The V3...forget it! Luckily, I still have two V1s with plenty of miles left and four V2s! If you find a trainer that's perfect for you, my advice would be to buy plenty of them before the next 'downgraded' version comes out in 3 month's time!

@johnrichardson7785 7 дней назад

Enjoyed watching 👍

@Run4Adventure 7 дней назад

Glad you enjoyed it 👍🙂

@jorgenswensan3299 6 дней назад

I was looking at the speedgoat6 and the Salomon genesis. Both felt great but I chose the speedgoat due to the stability (the firm midsole). To this, I am a heavier runner and hence they work perfectly. Though I just did a XTERRA that was extremely muddy and they do not perform well I deep mud.

@seanmac80 9 дней назад

I had sizing dramas with the SG2, gave 3 a go and found them ok, skipped 4, learned to really like 5, and am likely to not worry about 6 on the mounting body of evidence 😅 might go with the Mafate Speed 4 instead. Or the Agility Peak 5.

@RRYanSpencer 9 дней назад

I’ve bounced around between Inov8, Hoka and VJ Sport for years. Over the last 18 months or so it seem Hoka as 1) removed the 2E wide option from a number of models and 2) made the toe box really narrow and low. This across the range of models.

@JasonRaneses 8 дней назад

Hoka’s launch colorway is ghastly on this one

@toddboucher3302 9 дней назад

Just picked up a used pair vs 4. For $15 us including shipping. I told them Hoka are too narrow in toe box, this dealer make an offer. I figured I’ll try them for post 50 mile races or sell. Time will tell,

@MichaelLowery-kf7ke 9 дней назад

@Run4Adventure im new to your channel and love your content and reviews. Have u ever reviewed a Garmin or Coros watch? If so which do u prefer/wear? Any info is very much appreciated!!!

@Harrythehun 7 дней назад

Garmin all the way. The Forerunner series for the win, if you are a runner.

@Run4Adventure 5 дней назад

Really glad you’re enjoying the channel and thanks for watching. I’m currently using the COROS Apex Pro and I love it! I’ve reviewed the COROS Vertix and the Apex Pro on the channel. I use to run with a Garmin but had a few issues with their watches and they weren’t that helpful sorting them out. Once I made the move to COROS I never looked back. Packed full of great tech, really long battery life and pretty good value. Hope this helps 🙂 Loyd

@joaopedrojp6731 7 дней назад

Great video! Can you do a comparison video between speedgoat 6 amd tomir 2.0? Thanks bro

@Run4Adventure 7 дней назад

Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it! I’ll see what I can do 👍🙂

@richhowarth2356 2 дня назад

After more than 50 pairs of Speedgoat 3s and 4s, I could not use the 5s without expensive insoles. The insole in the 5 is thin junk and led to significant metatarsal pain. The worst forefoot cushioning in any Hoke I've worn. Other people I know found the same thing. Since then I switched to the Speedlands which have been amazing. I hope Hoke fixes this in the 6 because I still like other things about the Speedgoats.

@zaf2643 8 дней назад

I currently owned 3 pairs of SG 5 ( all wide version). It is a decent trail running shoes . I like the fit and comfort. I do agree that the lugs will struggle in muddier terrain and i did not get a good lockdown. After watching the review , i probably will skip the SG 6 . Nnormal Tomir ( 1st version) was probably firmest trail shoe that i have ever worn but the Vibram megagrip lite base on that shoes is arguably the best outsole grip out there .

@Run4Adventure 7 дней назад

I agree the TOMIR midsole does feel a lot firmer than I was expecting but the outsole is spot on 👍

@jansommerlund5497 9 дней назад

Thanks Loyd 🙂 a shoe that I won't be byuing😉 I`m definitely not a Hoka fan and don't think I `ll ever be. Last one I tried was the Speedboat 5 and it was terrible. Narrow, very firm midsole, poor fit around the mid foot and a very noisy midsole. Sold after one run. Somehow the shoe has a reputation of, at least here in Denmark, being wide, comfortable and having a comfy midsole. I just don't get it. Cause that`s really not the case. And many many recommendations to new trail runners if they ask in various groups, to buy this shoe.

@JohnM-xr6ch 9 дней назад

Same, I don’t get it. Of all the popular trail shoes I can understand why folk buy them, like the xodus ultra, merrells, ASICS, Nike Wildhorse, ultra glides or genesis, they all have their alignment with certain foot shaped or are solid all rounders. The SG 5s, super narrow, sloppy slidey fit, awful collar, and despite the vibram and the 5m lugs are rubbish in the mud.

@berthein5476 9 дней назад

Saw a few other people saying that even after 50k the midsole wont get softer. Hoka fixed the 200mile durability issue of the sg5 by overcorrecting and making the midsole a brick rivaling la sportiva 😂

@berry5954 8 дней назад

My 5s were the most "dead" shoes I have. No bounce at all. And I have 2 pairs.. Was interested because of the 2e, but now this is off my list completely. Trailfly in 2e might be the next.

@offroadagain 8 дней назад

Thanks for the great review. It confirms what I have heard in other reviews. A shame, as I loved the SG5 a lot. What is the best alternative now? Trabuco Max 3, Caldera 7, Xodus Ultra 3? Any other good options for a comfy trail shoe. I want to add it to the Catamount 3 which is fast but not too comfy on the longer distances.

@ThatFlowState 8 дней назад

If you otherwise liked the SG's then the Mafate Speed 4 should fit the bill. I vastly prefer them over the SG5 (bouncier, more comfortable, batter upper).

@offroadagain 8 дней назад

@@ThatFlowState Thanks for the hint. I will have a closer look at them.

@Run4Adventure 7 дней назад

I agree the Mafate Speed 4 is a lot more comfortable and the midsole feels like it’s returning more energy compared to the new Speedgoat 6 👍 Thanks for watching 🙂

@chrisagnew1988 7 дней назад

Lloyd would love you to try the mizuno wave mujin 10 shoes. They have also just added vibram megagrip to them

@Run4Adventure 7 дней назад

I’ll see what I can do 👍

@chrisagnew1988 6 дней назад

@@Run4Adventure be great if you can as it’s mainly foreign channels that review the mizuno trail shoes and I can’t translate what they are saying

@Scottnikki88 16 минут назад

I love my speedgoat 5 and I’m just about to replace them but unsure what to go for! I need 1 - 2 pairs for training and 50km and 100km races. Do I go for a speedgoat 6 and then something more cushioned?

@diederiklegrange7248 9 дней назад

Loyd, what do you do with all the shoes you buy for the reviews? I’d sell’em., it must add up to a hefty sum each month?!

@twicebob 9 дней назад

What's the stack height heel and midfoot? Same as the 5?

@omaolch5204 9 дней назад

I still miss the highly cushioned Mafate of 2016 or was it 2015? If they would be willing or able to reach this ancient level of rebouncing I would order several pairs!!!

@danoott9694 9 дней назад

I remember when the SG was on a level of its own, when it came to a shoe that was mega cushioned and bounced along the trail. All this ended for me after the SG3 and Evo (which is still my favourite ever trail shoe). Every SG since has been such a disappointment. I actually sent my SG5 back for a refund after one run. Was like a completely different shoe compared to the 3 or Evo. Come on Hoka, bring back a great shoe....

@Run4Adventure 9 дней назад

I totally agree! The SG3 was a great trail shoe and it’s never been the same since 😕

@christianjosephgorgonia3588 9 дней назад

Hello Lloyd... Would you recommend the Clifton 9 GTx over this or the Mafate Speed 4.? Thanks and More power.... 🤙

@bildotunechi 9 дней назад

He liked the Mafate, and the Clifton is a road shoe.

@paulmulks 9 дней назад

Think I'm gonna hold out for the Tecton X 3. This just looks very meh 😐

@BigfootRunning 6 дней назад

sucks how HOKA don't make all their shoes in size 15... sorry to anyone in a 16 or above, but If the Speedgoat is going to change because other models are competing with similar features, they need to make each model in a 15 instead of only offering it in some models.

@TheOnlyTrueYeti 9 дней назад

How is the firmness compared to eg Inov8 TrailFly 300G?

@Run4Adventure 9 дней назад

I’d say it feels a bit firmer than the 300G! It doesn’t feel like it’s returning any energy? 🤔

@liamglasper1127 8 дней назад

What would you pick between SG6 and Zegama 2?

@Run4Adventure 8 дней назад

I think I’d have to go for the Zegama 2 but it is quite heavy 🤔

@PatrickDelorenzi 8 дней назад

Tried them and they disappointed me to for the exact same reason - midsole did not agree with me

@Run4Adventure 8 дней назад

Sorry to hear that Patrick, thanks for watching 👍

@atleastIdietrying 9 дней назад

Holy shit. If they are really less bouncy and soft than the 5s then I am really disappointed. Has been the foundation of my running since the second model

@Run4Adventure 6 дней назад

They definitely felt stiffer and firmer than the 5’s! 😕

@user-yb3uk7yh5t 8 дней назад

I so wish Hoka would return to the cushions used in Speedgoat 3. Until then, I am going with another brand as none of their other models have worked for me. Very disappointing as I used to run exclusively in Speedgoat.

@Run4Adventure 7 дней назад

I totally agree, the SG3’s cushioning was great! 🏃‍♂️😁

@roberthennings 6 дней назад

The Speedgoat 5 completely ruined my feet for a week. Never experienced anything quite like that. Anyone else had problems with speedgoat 5 or did just get unlucky?

@trailsandbeers 9 дней назад

Are you sure they come in a wide fit? I haven't been able to find any...

@alredalred 9 дней назад

They are there in the US at least. I got my wide pair this week.

@Run4Adventure 9 дней назад

They’re definitely available in a wide fit 👍

@trailsandbeers 4 дня назад

Interesting, I have not found them in wide in Europe. But I got my regular fit pair today and they fit me the same as the SG5 wide 🤷‍♂️ The sole is about 2mm narrower at the widest point but the upper looks and fits the same. Is definitely regular as is says US size 11 D and my 5's are US size 11 2E

@trailsandbeers 3 дня назад

Did a run, they are too narrow... I checked Hoka US site and they do have wide, but nowhere in Europe has them 🤷‍♂️

@michelleharnett1351 9 дней назад

Interestingly, I also don't like using my Speedgoats in muddy conditions. Too slippy.

@RowOfMushyTiT 9 дней назад

Typical Hoka: fix one issue, but ruin another.

@thomasheckel7499 2 дня назад

Wow, why are the shoes so tight in the forefoot? Nobody needs pointed running shoes!

@dominicvega7207 9 дней назад

First What’s a good starter shoe for trails?

@joelscragg2259 9 дней назад

Merrell Agility Peak 5

@trailsandbeers 9 дней назад

one that fits your foot and doesn't give you blisters.

@RowOfMushyTiT 9 дней назад

Catamount 3

@Ginguredrunner 9 дней назад

Saucony Xodus Ultra

@RowOfMushyTiT 9 дней назад

@@Ginguredrunner But bad wet grip.

@berthein5476 9 дней назад

My boi the speedgoat evo keeps getting ignored. F. Best speedgoat iteration of all time.

@Run4Adventure 9 дней назад

I never ran in the EVO because I enjoyed the standard SG so much. I’m not ignoring it, I didn’t run in it so I can’t comment about it. It was obviously a great shoe because I’ve never heard a bad word said about it 👍🙂

@carlstoakes6240 9 дней назад

So...SG6 Vs Mafate Speed 4?

@RowOfMushyTiT 9 дней назад

Zegama 2

@StopTheRot 9 дней назад

@@RowOfMushyTiTI’ve heard the Z2s are a little worrying in terms of ankle rolling? Would love to be convinced otherwise.

@grahmdoughty 9 дней назад

@@StopTheRot Zegama 2 was really unstable for me. Also hot and heavy. Worse in every way for me vs. the Z1 except of course for the Vibram

@carlstoakes6240 9 дней назад

@@RowOfMushyTiT alot heavier.

@RowOfMushyTiT 9 дней назад

@@StopTheRot No ankle rolling, but it is a high soft shoe so you do fight the cushion if it's too technical.

@drewgb 7 дней назад

In the US, Hoka's are boomer shoes. In the PNW, I'll meet 20 people over 60 wearing them casually to 1 person who runs in them on trail or road.

@JackBauerDev 5 дней назад

That is one flat trail

@Run4Adventure 5 дней назад

It sure is Jack! I’d just run 100 miles the week before so unfortunately my body wasn’t ready for any technical stuff 🙂 I’ll be trying them out on the coast path before my full review 👍

@marosmikolas624 День назад

Isnt this THE BEST TRAIL SHOE EVER, that last 300km? 🤣 Come one guys, we should be much more demanding.

@Run4Adventure День назад

Did I say that the SG6 is the best trail shoe ever? I’m pretty sure I didn’t 🤔

@marosmikolas624 День назад

@@Run4Adventure No no you did not, but so many Hokas fanatic-loyal-user reviews ake like that 😊

@kuoppa2559 6 дней назад

the durability of my shoes goes down like a cow's tail, I'm disappointed with Hoka's current trend

@francescocambarau5712 6 дней назад

I thought it was the speedgoat review but instead...

@Run4Adventure 6 дней назад

It was a Speedgoat review!? 🤷‍♂️

@PoserExtreme 8 дней назад

This looks like a Stinson.

@DP-no1ny 9 дней назад

Speedgoats should never be firm.

@patrickvanderwal6324 9 дней назад

One of the ugliest colorways ever. I was looking out for this one to replace my SG EVO, but I think I'll try something else.

@Run4Adventure 9 дней назад

If you’re use to the feel and performance of the SG EVO, I think you’d be very disappointed 🤔

@USUG0 7 дней назад

HOKA's are poor quality shoes. had a pair of HOKA carbonX, they started to fall apart after less than 1000km. Replaced them with Adidas Nitro carbon plate, run twice the distance with minimal wear and tear.

@Run4Adventure 7 дней назад

Before 1000km! To be fair that’s pretty good mileage for a running shoe 🤷‍♂️

@djp3819 4 дня назад

Why do they continue to make them in such ugly colours?? I have speed goat 5 and I like running in them but they are gross to look at. My misses says I look like a little kid ready for his first day of kindergarten because of the colour scheme lol 😂